Not a Rookie, Reprise: Justin Upton

by John Sickels on Apr 8, 2025 6:10 PM EDT Comment 5 comments

Not A Rookie, Reprise: Justin Upton

We did a Not a Rookie on Justin Upton about a year ago, and of course the historical background is still valid.

Upton ended up with a .250/.353/.463 mark in 108 games, 356 at-bats last year. The projections from 2008:

James:      .278/.353/.496        .849 OPS          +36
PECOTA:   .271/.349/.471     .820   OPS             +4
Reality:     .250/.353/.463       .816   OPS      Reality
Shandler:   .270/.344/.467       .811   OPS            -5
Sickels:     .259/.325/.429       .754    OPS           -62
ZIPS:       .248/.313/.404         .717   OPS           -99

Kudos to PECOTA and Shandler. . .any projection within 10 OPS points has to be considered a big success in my book.

For 2009, we find the following projections

James:       .263/.356/.488       .844 OPS
PECOTA:   .278/.361/.507     .868 OPS
Shandler:    .269/.348/.500      .848 OPS
ZIPS:         .265/.349/.457       .806 OPS
CHONE:   .257/.349/.444       .793 OPS

None of those seem like an unrealistic outcome to me, CHONE being a "needs consolidation time" outcome, while PECOTA being unusually optimistic, but not massively so given Upton's undoubted talents.

The PECOTA comp list is, perhaps, less helpful than one might hope in regards to reading Upton's future: Bob Horner, B.J. Upton (gee thanks for that one), Darryl Strawberry, Jeff Burroughs, Lloyd Moseby, Clint Hurdle, Mike Anderson, Ron Swoboda, Lastings Milledge, and Griffey Jr. being the Top Ten. Others on the list: Gary Carter (?), Andruw Jones, Rusty Staub, Gary Sheffield, and Sammy Sosa. Most of this is not surprising, it just confirms that Upton has immense talent and could develop into a Hall of Fame type player, but still runs some risk of early burnout.

I will be doing a Crystal Ball for Upton soon.

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I see Upton as Andruw Jones without the defense

has a toolshed of tools but will never develope into a full fledge superstar.

by Bravesin07 on Apr 8, 2025 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i'll take it

if you tell me Upton will mirror Jones’ 300+ Hr and 1500 hits before the age of 30, I’ll take it

by ScottAZ on Apr 9, 2025 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what is going on?

I don’t get why Melvin benched Justin for game 1. [don’t care if he’s 1-9 against Cook]

and had him batting 8th the last 2 games…?!?!?

Has Justin at all indicated that he isn’t confident or isn’t ready to face MLB pitching? Has he had an argument with Melvin that I don’t know about?

I don’t understand and I don’t like it one bit. Bringing young guys along slowly is fine in some cases, but this is a kid that deserves to be in MLB, and is the franchise player. I really can’t comprehend this

by daveh33 on Apr 9, 2025 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs