Alan Horne
Alan Horne, RHP, New York Yankees
Bats: R Throws: R HT: 6-4 WT: 195 DOB: January 5, 2026
Horne has finally overcome his injury-plagued college career, emerging as one of the better pitching prospects in the game. His velocity has returned to pre-Tommy John standards, hitting 93-95 MPH last year in Double-A. Both his curveball and slider have improved, and last year he added a major league changeup to the arsenal, giving him four solid or better pitches. His command, erratic in the past, also took a step forward. All of his numbers were just fine for Double-A Trenton, and it was only the emergence of Chamberlain, Hughes, and Kennedy in the Yankees system that kept Horne from getting more attention. Assuming that his command continues to hold up, we should see him in the majors sometime in 2008, and it would not surprise me at all to see him thrive there, earlier than people expect. Grade B, and that might be a notch too low.
What do you guys think about Horne? Is Grade B too low or just right, or too high for that matter?
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As much as I hate to admit it
He profiles so well. I havent seen much of him pitch, so that's my only concern, but other than the fact that he flew under the radar his resume looks a lot like a B+ to me.
I was skeptical but now Im a believer.
by alskor on Dec 16, 2025 4:33 PM EST 0 recs
Oh
Still think Jackson and Tabata are being slightly overrated for their tools, though, but I really like Horne. He's way closer to Kennedy than he's getting credit for.
by alskor on
Dec 16, 2025 4:45 PM EST
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Sure sounds like
by bobbymcnally on Dec 16, 2025 4:50 PM EST 0 recs
Just right
I'd like to see him stay as a starter, but it's awfully tempting to throw him into a setup role, especially if Humberto Sanchez isn't ready.
by FrazierFan on Dec 16, 2025 5:02 PM EST 0 recs
+1
by The Congo Hammer on
Dec 16, 2025 5:04 PM EST
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Horne
I'd rate him above Bowden, who got a B, but below a lot of other B+ picks.
by DownFromNJ on Dec 16, 2025 5:02 PM EST 0 recs
"very good"
I will give you that the low HR is very nice, though.
by siddfynch on
Dec 16, 2025 5:08 PM EST
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I'm not really a fan
Yes he was recovering from TJ surgery, but as a 24 year old pitcher he's got little room for error. All of his numbers were fine for AA Trenton, but I'd like a little bit of a history before I give a guy a B+.
To me he's a B- aggressively rated, a C+. He's also not going to make the rotation any time soon unless he's traded.
Wang
Joba
Hughes
Kennedy
(Maybe he has a year before someone like Dellin Betances would be ready)
This year they have Pettitte as well.
So unless one of their youngins flame out, he's not going to get a shot till late...
by cubsfan2883 on Dec 16, 2025 5:03 PM EST 0 recs
flame out?
The way you write this, it's as though you think it's unlikely. Pitching prospects fail as often as they succeed. If Hughes and Kennedy really meet expectations, and Joba really nails down a rotation spot, I'd say that the Yankees have really beaten the odds. Personally, I think of one Hughes/Kennedy will essentially "fail" - dropping to a mediocre starter or "okay" reliever, and Joba will be used as an excellent setup man until Mo retires, when he'll become the next great Yankees closer. But that's just conjecture at this point. If Horne pitches well, he'll get innings.
by BobbyMac on
Dec 16, 2025 6:31 PM EST
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no problem with that idea, but
by bobbymcnally on
Dec 16, 2025 6:45 PM EST
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Joba will be a starter
by FishHead on
Dec 16, 2025 7:11 PM EST
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Good closers arent a dime a dozen
Its a little early to say Joba is definitely one or the other when he's only been in pro ball one year, IMHO.
Im not sure what to expect from Sanchez.
by alskor on
Dec 16, 2025 7:16 PM EST
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I'd rather have the closer
This statement pretty much answers my question. I'd prefer to have a guy pitch everyday for an inning in dominance rather then appearing just 20% of the time.
I really like Papelbon as a closer and it's a risk to take him off that position as they would have to find a replacement and there is that chance where we would be a mediocre.
I would feel uneasy moving Joba back to the rotation despite the clear track record of success. He may be great there eventually (you may see a year of struggling but you would have to be patient) but what if it doesn't work out? If you then switch him back to the bullpen you can wreck him...
Allan's World
Blue bird Banter
by achengy on
Dec 16, 2025 7:34 PM EST
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Let me ask you this
Bonderman is a solid but erratic #3 starter (something like Joba's 50% possibility) and Putz was top 3 closer in baseball last year (Joba's upper projection as a reliever)
Personally I would take a solid #3-#4 over any closer in baseball.
by Kanst42 on
Dec 17, 2025 8:35 AM EST
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to be honest, ...
a) This isn't how teams see the "value" of closers. And...
b) He's shown almost perfection of 2 pitches now. That's probably enough to dominate in a late-inning role already. How much "practice" do they give him to perfect another pitch before taking the known/proven benefit he can provide in the pen?
by BobbyMac on
Dec 16, 2025 8:23 PM EST
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Tough call
What kind of grades to you give Wade Davis and James McDonald? I'd say Horne is below them at this point.
by siddfynch on Dec 16, 2025 5:04 PM EST 0 recs
I'd put him above McDonald
Horne might have even had some room for improvement, as his .341 BABIP for the year was on the high side.
I do advocate caution though. Based on his first half last year, I was the biggest Horne fan out there. Walks and HRs shot up in August though (we saw some other prospects like Marquez, Cervelli, Kontos, etc... fall off in the second half too - at least that was counterbalanced by the rise of Austin Jackson)
by FrazierFan on
Dec 16, 2025 5:10 PM EST
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McDonald vs Horne
Performance. McD had 168K/37BB in 134 IP in 2007, good for a 1.06 dominance indiex. Horne = 165/57 in 153 IP, with a dominance of .80. Yes, much of McD's came in A+, but that was in teh Cal league, which usually causes some serious inflation in the raw stats. Advantage = McD.
ARL. Horne is at AA at age 24, McD at 22 in A+/AA. Even if you don;t as much stock into ARL for SPs, that's a big difference.
Velocity. Conflicting reports on McD's velocity - I've heard 88-92, or 90-94. Which is it? Horne is 92-95, so is either a wash, or advantage = Horne.
Injury history. TJ for Horne, none that I can find for McD. Advantage = McD.
So in upshot, McD had more impressive numbers, in a league that was as tough, or tougher, at a younger age, and has a cleaner injury history (as far as I can tell). You'd have to give me some compelling info about their pitches to make me agree that Horne is really that much of a better prospect than McD in 2007.
Now, I admit I don't know enough about their stuff - I'd like to know more, if anyone can speak to both of these guys.
by siddfynch on
Dec 16, 2025 8:27 PM EST
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horne
also, horne is more of a GB pitcher as opposed to the flyball tendencies of mcdonald
by bmxstreetrider86 on
Dec 16, 2025 11:48 PM EST
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And if he played for a team like the Orioles
by cubsfan2883 on Dec 16, 2025 5:09 PM EST 0 recs
I give hime a B- or a solid B
I like his stuff though, very good fastball and good secondary pitches. Not to mention he seem to put all together and had a very good year.
To me his ceiling is a good #3 with outside chance to be a #2 but a #3 most likely. Not to mention with the great arm strenght he has, he can be a top notch set up man or closer. So he has some very good alternatives if he doesn't pan out as a starter. He has the goods thought.
I like him alot, and he's a good prospect.
by NYYLover1000 on Dec 16, 2025 5:23 PM EST 0 recs
Alan Horne
John,
Where are the other 19 top prospects for the Bombers?
by VOIII on Dec 16, 2025 5:32 PM EST 0 recs
Horne is the Yankees only prospect this year
Just more Red Sox-centric thinking.
(PS I think theyre coming soon... he generally puts up a little teaser first to get discussion going)
by alskor on
Dec 16, 2025 5:57 PM EST
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Horne should be...
- He had a past reputation of being the former 1st round pick out of high school by Indians. I don't know the reason why he chose to go to college though. In the Minor Leagues, he refined his mechanics to cover up some flaws in his delivery, and it worked out well. I checked Horne's progress consistently during 2007 season and boy, he could eat innings.
- Good stuffs. 93~95mph fastball with live and good curve. I heard from like last year that his curve is like a 'hammer'.
- Stats: Yeah, he does have 1.34 WHIP in AA, but it's mostly because of his 57 walks in 153.1 IP. He allowed less hits per innings and 165 K's in 153.1 IP. I'll take that anyday... also check out his HR rates too, they are good. His GO/AO rates are 1.44 too, which is good, IMO.
- Needs to improve: command. 53BB's in 153 IP is one of the reason why he's not Buchholz or Joba... well he did make a great stride from 2006 though. He's also older than normal 'top prospects' (turns 25 in Januray)
by shakezula on Dec 16, 2025 5:54 PM EST 0 recs
Must be some weird system
Weird.
by alskor on Dec 16, 2025 5:55 PM EST 0 recs
horne
There are big differences between Joba and Kennedy's stats in terms of controlling the at-bat than Horne posted in 07. I will be watching in 08 though!
C+/B-
by davidsabin on Dec 16, 2025 6:20 PM EST 0 recs
A-?
I think if this were the case, there'd still be Red Sox faithful posting here about how he's clearly an "A" pitcher, since his arm is now "stronger than ever" after the surgery.
by BobbyMac on Dec 16, 2025 6:33 PM EST 0 recs
Response
by mrkupe on Dec 16, 2025 7:19 PM EST 0 recs
B+
by M Gianella on Dec 16, 2025 7:20 PM EST 0 recs
John
He's got one great year in AA to his credit.. Hell, Ronny Cedeno did that, was he ever a B+ prospect? I'd hope not.. and Cedeno was only 22 at the time... I just really think people are getting way too excited here. Clippard was last years SNT, this years SNT is Horne.
by cubsfan2883 on Dec 16, 2025 7:35 PM EST 0 recs
No, no, no...
Horne has much better case as of now
by shakezula on
Dec 16, 2025 7:37 PM EST
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I'm not comparing their stuff
Just my opinion. I'm just your average idiot..
by cubsfan2883 on
Dec 16, 2025 7:47 PM EST
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Why a reference to pre-TJ velocity?
by BomberBrian on Dec 16, 2025 7:37 PM EST 0 recs
mulvey/horne
by Maine Man on Dec 16, 2025 9:10 PM EST 0 recs
Kevin Mulvey, RHP, Grade B (may raise to B+
In the Mulvey/Horne smackdown he did in Sept' he took Mulvey but said he could switch them at any time depending on which side of the bed he woke up on , (I'm paraphrasing obviously.)
That said Mulvey is 22, Horne is 24.
So Mulvey is more advanced his numbers are more projectable and if they're comparable don't you have to give the edge to Mulvey..
Here's the link to the smackdown if you wish it.
by cubsfan2883 on
Dec 16, 2025 9:31 PM EST
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they're not similar at all
by FrazierFan on
Dec 16, 2025 10:19 PM EST
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Hit Rate
It's probably not enough to change his ranking, but I do think it's worth keeping in mind--and helps explain his high BABIP.
by Yossarian on Dec 16, 2025 9:51 PM EST 0 recs
Criteria?
Where can I find a listing of his criteria for grading?
by Einsteinhood on Dec 16, 2025 9:59 PM EST 0 recs
I get
by kaisertown on Dec 16, 2025 10:55 PM EST 0 recs
John Manuel
i could definitely see him filling a Jobe-type pen role in 08.
by Travis G on Dec 17, 2025 1:52 AM EST 0 recs


