Cincinnati Reds Pre-Season Top 20 in Review
Cincinnati Reds Pre-Season Top 20 Prospects in Review
1) Edwin Encarnacion, 3B
Hit .293/.374/.512 with 13 homers in 70 games for Triple-A Louisville, .222 in 10 games (18 at-bats) for the Reds. His AAA numbers are solid and he remains an excellent, if often overlooked, prospect.
2) Richie Gardner, RHP
3-5, 5.72 in 11 starts at Double-A Chattanooga, with a 42/19 K/BB in 57 innings, allowing 73 hits. Has not been fully healthy this year, bothered by bicep soreness.
3) Joey Votto, 1B
Hitting .256/.342/.408 with 8 homers and 87 strikeouts in 80 games for Class A Sarasota. Disappointing numbers, I thought he would break through but it has not happened.
4) Thomas Pauly, RHP
Won't pitch this year due to shoulder injury.
5) Homer Bailey, RHP
4.14 ERA, 69/37 K/BB in 59 innings for Class A Dayton. Showing good stuff, strong K/IP ratio, needs better control.
6) B.J. Szymanski, OF
Hitting .255/.349/.455 for Dayton, but limited to just 29 games so far by a knee injury.
7) Todd Coffey, RHP
In 29 innings for the Reds, has a 5.59 ERA, 17/6 K/BB, and 44 hits allowed. Good command but way too hittable.
8) William Bergolla, 2B
Hit .314/.345/.419 in 48 games for Louisville, just .132 in 17 games for the Reds. Not ready for the Show, needs more Triple-A.
9) Tyler Pelland, LHP
4.40 ERA for Sarasota, but with a 73/33 K/BB in 59 innings. Very strong K/IP ratio is a positive sign; he's a sleeper.
10) Carlos Guevara, RHP
Another guy to watch, 1.95 ERA with 41/12 K/BB in 32 innings for Sarasota, allowing only 22 hits and 1 homer, 6 saves.
11) Paul Janish, SS
.245/.346/.385 in 208 at-bats for Dayton, overall production not impressive although his strike zone judgment has been decent.
12) Daylan Childress, RHP
Put on waivers after posting a 6.75 ERA in 11 Triple-A games. Claimed by Minnesota, sent to Double-A, but continuing to struggle with 6.29 ERA. Command has been biggest problem this year.
13) Matt Belisle, RHP
Used as swingman in Cincinnati and doing decently, 4.07 ERA in 55 innings, 36/17 K/BB ratio. Should post similar numbers in second half.
14) Bubba Nelson, RHP
3.68 ERA, 10 saves, 48/14 K/BB in 44 innings for Chattanooga. Has handled conversion to relief quite well, stock is rebounding.
15) Jesse Gutierrez, 1B-C
.310/.360/.530 in 26 games for Chattanooga, hitting very well, but won't play again this year due to torn ACL (hat tip to Red Reporter).
16) Steve Kelly, RHP
5-4, 4.08 ERA in 17 starts for Louisville, 61/34 K/BB in 97 innings. Doing OK, not great, not bad.
17) Elizardo Ramirez, RHP
2.99 ERA in 11 starts for Louisville, but 8.46 in 4 starts for the Reds. Weak K/IP ratio of 42/69 at AAA was a big red flag (no pun intended) for his chances in the Majors.
18) Steve Smitherman, OF
.248/.272/.333 at Louisville, poor numbers, led to demotion to Chattanooga, where he's at .234/.322/.403. Inability to control strike zone consistently inhibits his power.
19) Joe Valentine, RHP
9.53 ERA for the Reds, 5.93 for Louisville. Combined K/BB on the year is 28/33 in 39 innings. Obviously the problem here is poor control. He has a good arm but can't throw strikes.
20) Rafael Gonzalez, RHP
Was horrible in 10 games for Dayton (9.35 ERA), and is starting over again at short-season Billings. 2.35 mark so far, but with poor 12/12 K/BB in 15 innings. Raw ability is here but will need lots of time.
Lots of injury attrition here. Encouraging signs are performances from Belisle in the Show and Nelson in Double-A.
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Thanks for doing a top 20 review on Cincy. I appreciate it.
by cincyinco on Jul 13, 2025 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
moran
by John Sickels on Jul 13, 2025 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
Need clarification
by joerote on Jul 13, 2025 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Votto
by rdiersin on Jul 13, 2025 6:28 PM EDT reply actions
Janish
by rdiersin on Jul 13, 2025 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
Pauly
by OnBaseMachine on Jul 13, 2025 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
Travis Wood
Wood 3.2 2 0 0 0 6 0 0.00
Keeps on going... I thought the reds were crazy taking this guy in the 2nd from what I read about him.
by cincyinco on Jul 13, 2025 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
Wood
Off the charts numbers.
by jmcclain19 on Jul 13, 2025 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Smitherman
At the end of the 2003 season, he was the Reds minor leaguer of the year, got called up to the show, and was going to Louisville as one of the Reds top prospects. Now he's been demoted, and still can't hit at AA. Sad to see.
by jmcclain19 on Jul 13, 2025 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
Reds system
by murraygd13 on Jul 13, 2025 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
Booker
by JD Arney on Jul 14, 2025 8:23 AM EDT reply actions
booker
by John Sickels on Jul 14, 2025 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Gardner
by baseballmom7 on Jul 14, 2025 11:38 AM EDT reply actions
4/8 Man Rotation
Did the Reds discontinue their experiment with the 3-day-rest, tandem pitching rotation in the lower minors? I'm looking at the stats of Sarasota and Dayton and it looks like maybe they did (Bailey 17G/14 GS).
Any news? One of the ideas was that you'd get fewer injuries, but the top 20 review is pretty ugly. I know there's a sample size issue, but what was/is the reaction among the experts?
Thanks,
Arthur
by Arthur on Jul 15, 2025 8:51 AM EDT reply actions
Tandem
As for the tandem thing, it wasn't totally discontinued, but they changed it to give their pitchers 5 days rest. Some of the guys arms were getting tired, even with the lower pitch counts. They still only let them pitch 75 pitches, but they now get 5 days rest. I think they were talking about going back to it after the break, so well see. I don't think it has worked well and I wish they would scrap it.
I'd love to hear John's opinion on it though.
by Tyler on Jul 15, 2025 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Josh Hall and Bobby Basham
Any (hopefully good) news on them?
by Arthur on Jul 15, 2025 9:11 AM EDT reply actions
Basham
Also, I think for the younger pitchers (Bailey and Valiquette) Dayton has them pitching every 5th day, and I think they have been mainly starting. They still have been on a strict pitch count.
by rdiersin on Jul 15, 2025 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Not good.
The idea was that by pitching more often (3-days) but not enough to get tired (pitch count) you'd improve your mechanics that much faster and without pitching tired and risking injury. Then at higher levels you'd stretch out the pitch counts and go back to 4-days rest.
5-days rest but still 75 pitch limits? You get better by pitching, not sitting in the bullpen.
I'd love to hear John's thoughts too.
by Arthur on Jul 15, 2025 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Everything
In fact, I think pitch counts are important, but I dont think they are the end all when it comes to pitching. I think as long as the arm gets the proper REST between starts, that is the key. I dont think strict pitch counts are necessary in the upper levels. Granted, you dont want to completely ABUSE an arm ala Dusty Baker, but I wouldn't necessarily pull a pitcher at 100 if they were doing well either... I'll see if I can dig up some links to more info about the tandem starter stuff...
by cincyinco on Jul 15, 2025 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
in my opinion
by Isisaston on Dec 19, 2025 5:13 PM EST reply actions

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