Tampa Bay Devil Rays Top 20 List

Delmon Young (on the right) and his older brother Dmitri
- Delmon Young, OF A-
- Scott Kazmir, LHP A-
- Jeff Niemann, RHP B+
- Wes Bankston, 1B-OF B+
- Chad Orvella, RHP B+
- Elijah Dukes, OF B
- Reid Brignac, SS B
- Jason Hammel, RHP B-
- Joey Gathright, OF B-
- James Houser, LHP B-
- Seth McClung, RHP C+
- John Barratt, LHP C+
- Gabby Martinez, 1B C+
- Andy Sonnanstine, RHP C+
- Chris Seddon, LHP C
- Matt Diaz, OF C
- Jonny Gomes, OF C
- Jason Pridie, OF C
- Jarod Matthews,RHP C
- Shawn Riggans, C C
There is little controversial about the early names on my list. One guy to watch real close is Elijah Dukes, who is rather anonymous unless you're a D-Rays fan. He has tremendous tools and hit .332/.416/.540 last year in the California League, although there are questions about his plate discipline and his "fiery" makeup. Joey Gathright may be the fastest man in professional baseball, but his extreme lack of power may delegate him to a bench role in the long run. Power-hitting outfielders Matt Diaz and Jonny Gomes showed a lot of pop in Triple-A last year. Diaz gets a Grade C because he is 27, Gomes because he struck out 136 times in 114 games. If you want to weight "immediate help" more heavily, move them up the list.
As usual, feel free to comment and critique. It keeps me sharp.
UPDATE: Reader Dave Cameron points out that Elijah Dukes was recently arrested for attacking his sister. ANOTHER UPDATE: Matt Diaz was released a few days ago. He can certainly help someone!
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Re: Bankston
by natsfan2005 on Feb 18, 2026 12:50 PM EST reply actions
Age
by Jim Wisinski on Feb 18, 2026 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
a 'B' for Bankston
They were good numbers for age 19. I still think you discount for repeating in the lowest form of full season A-ball just a bit. Therefore, when I look at John's other B+ outfielders (Swisher,Sizemore,etc.), I have no doubt I'd trade Bankston for them.
by natsfan2005 on Feb 18, 2026 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Dukes
He missed three weeks during the year after the Devil Rays sent him to anger management classes. Saying there are questions about his makeup is a bit of an understatement. Dukes is bordering on Milton Bradley-type status.
He's some kind of athlete though. Built like a middle linebacker.
by david cameron on Feb 18, 2026 12:54 PM EST reply actions
dukes
by fernandomania on Feb 21, 2026 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
questions
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 12:56 PM EST reply actions
Niemann
In a recent Baseball American chat on the San Francisco Giants, John Manuel ranked Niemann the #4 RHP prospect in the minors behind only Hernandez, Miller, and Cain. I believe you ranked him #29 among RHP prospects. Why such a big difference?
by AaronMullen on Feb 18, 2026 1:00 PM EST reply actions
data
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Niemann
by AaronMullen on Feb 18, 2026 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
niemann
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
B.J. Upton
by AaronMullen on Feb 18, 2026 1:03 PM EST reply actions
"Tools-oriented" organizations
by AaronMullen on Feb 18, 2026 1:23 PM EST reply actions
tools
The Indians are a "mixed" system that does do some sabermetric stuff in addition to traditional scouting. Same with the Dodgers and even the Braves to some extent. It isn't an either-or thing for most teams.
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
tools
All of those toolsy, non-college prospects you mentioned were drafted during the GordAsh/TimWilken regime. HS/International bonus babies tend to have a higher ceiling than college players, but they also have a higher rate of flaming out. Which is a risk less weatlthy teams (like current version of the Jays) feel they can't take very often.
Ironically enough, Tampa Bay is where Wilken ended up.
Also, the Jays aren't complete wallflowers at this dance. Last year, they coughed up 800K to sign 18 year-old Taiwanese pitcher Chi-hung Cheng.
by slackerjack on Feb 19, 2026 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Injury Consideration
I was just wondering what, if any, role potential injury plays into your rankings. I've heard from a number of places that Kamir's mechanics make it seem like he is destined for arm trouble. Does this affect your ranking of him?
by Rob Assalino on Feb 18, 2026 1:23 PM EST reply actions
depends
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Mechanical concerns
by Jim Wisinski on Feb 18, 2026 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Kazmir's mechanics
by jeck on Feb 18, 2026 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
by Bobo2 on Feb 18, 2026 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Gathright
by Flynn Blake on Feb 18, 2026 1:40 PM EST reply actions
Gathright
The very next day I watched him play the Indians at Winter Haven. He grounded out to third and second, routine plays both times, and his speed didn't even really make the plays close. It made me wonder if the difference between being fast and having blazing speed is really all that important.
by Kyle Lobner on Feb 18, 2026 1:44 PM EST reply actions
Gathright
It's hard to say where he'll end up, but my guess is somewhere between Coleman and Pierre. Yes, a lot of his game is dependent on batting average, but he also draws a fair number of walks, although his drop in this area as he's moved up the ranks is a bit concerning. Still, he's improved upon one aspect of his game every year, and his OBP would still be respectable even if he wasn't batting mid-.300's. In Tampa, he's probably a 4th outfielder at best, even if he does turn into Juan Pierre. They've already got CC and Baldo (and soon Delmon), and with that front office (and manager), they're not going to play a guy with zero power even if he has a .500 OBP.
As far as his speed goes, he'll have to learn to get better jumps out of the batters box and in center; because at lower levels it wasn't a problem, he didn't focus on improving that aspect so much, but now that other areas have gotten better, he may look to that.
In an interview with RaysBaseball last year, he said his yearly goals are .300 BA, .400 OBP and 100 SB. Obviously, he's never hit all three yet, but if he can approach those numbers, he'll be a valuable player somewhere...
by Brickhaus on Feb 18, 2026 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Re: Gathright OBP
In the majors he may be able to draw some walks off Colby Lewis and Victor Santos types but he'll have problems vs top pitching. So he doesn't seem like a guy who can start on a playoff team to me. But, the devilrays are in a position that they can atleast afford to test him out and see what happens... a team like Boston would not.
by natsfan2005 on Feb 18, 2026 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
No kidding...
by Harold on Feb 18, 2026 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Car Jumping
by CalLeaguer on Feb 18, 2026 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Re: jumping over an S10/Sonoma
Why even bother with baseball if you can do that? I'd use that gimic to try to get a date with Jenn Schefft.
by natsfan2005 on Feb 18, 2026 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hamilton
by Ienpw on Feb 18, 2026 1:48 PM EST reply actions
Kazmir
by Bobo2 on Feb 18, 2026 1:48 PM EST reply actions
Jorge Cantu
by fargocraig1971 on Feb 18, 2026 1:53 PM EST reply actions
Over at the BAY
Bankston put up some terrific numbers last year. He is my underrated pick of the group. Compare his numbers vs Delmon Young.
by David Bloom on Feb 18, 2026 1:56 PM EST reply actions
cantu
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 1:56 PM EST reply actions
Niemann and Depo
"Even the Dodgers, with Depodesta as GM, seem to have an awful lot of tools kind of players in their system."
The Dodgers used to be almost totally a scout-oriented team, Depo just got there a few years ago. I think he is doing some interesting things to merge the scouts and stat-heads.
by slurve on Feb 18, 2026 2:02 PM EST reply actions
Upton
by dirtyj76 on Feb 18, 2026 2:06 PM EST reply actions
Bankston v. Young
by slurve on Feb 18, 2026 2:07 PM EST reply actions
Niemann
by Bobo2 on Feb 18, 2026 2:13 PM EST reply actions
Youth
by David Bloom on Feb 18, 2026 2:33 PM EST reply actions
gomes
by jpahk on Feb 18, 2026 2:46 PM EST reply actions
TB Questions
- I thought Matt Diaz had been released by Tampa?
- Is Orvella strictly being relegated to relief?
- If Dukes becomes Milton Bradley I would consider that a good thing. Milton may not be a super star but we in Los Angeles loved the way he played CF before Finley moved him to right.
by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2026 3:15 PM EST reply actions
Kazmir
by Ienpw on Feb 18, 2026 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
next week's schedule?
by natsfan2005 on Feb 18, 2026 3:47 PM EST reply actions
schedule
6/20 Yankees
6/21 Giants
6/22 Mariners
after that I have not decided
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 3:55 PM EST reply actions
Question
You know on the top right, there are a few options, like creat account, post diary and stuff? Can you make one called perhaps "How i grade prospects" or something like that where you list what you did in some other top 20.
A: Player has a good chance of being a superstar
B: Possibility of being a superstar
That not exactly it, but something along those lines. It'd be great if we could refer back to that.
by ohad on Feb 18, 2026 4:00 PM EST reply actions
that's a good idea
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 4:02 PM EST reply actions
Thanks
Appreciate it.
by ohad on Feb 18, 2026 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
A-?
by mrmetaa on Feb 18, 2026 7:07 PM EST reply actions
Stewart/Barton
In your book you said if you were ranking on hitting alone, you would rank Barton in the top five. If you simply had to choose between Stewart and Barton based on offense alone, which one would you choose? I'm asking because it seems like Barton was ranked a little lower because he doesn't really have a set position.
Thanks.
by AaronMullen on Feb 19, 2026 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
hittign alone
by John Sickels on Feb 19, 2026 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Top Hitters
by AaronMullen on Feb 19, 2026 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
ops
by John Sickels on Feb 19, 2026 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
OPS
by AaronMullen on Feb 19, 2026 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
ops
I would say "most consistent OPS" could be Marte.
Highest Peak either Stewart or Barton. Best broad-range of skills...Guzman or Young. Best chance to be a multi-tooled superstar...Guzman or Young, although both have a higher risk of failure than Stewart.
by John Sickels on Feb 19, 2026 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Re: Barton
by natsfan2005 on Feb 19, 2026 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
thats a pretty good point
by Bobo2 on Feb 19, 2026 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
as
Note that "closeless to the majors" counts for a lot here. Marte and Guzman have proven themselves at higher levels. Young, for all his undoubted physical tools, is less polished as a hitter than Stewart. Young ranks right behind Stewart.
I realize not everyone will agree with these ratings, but Young still has some flaws in his swing and an impatient approach. If he makes even small improvement in 2005 he'll be a pure Grade A.
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 7:16 PM EST reply actions
ESPN list
Take 4 from the pitching list?
by Bobo2 on Feb 18, 2026 7:17 PM EST reply actions
my bad
Thanks for the response.
by Bobo2 on Feb 18, 2026 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Delmon/Stewart/Milledge
What's your take on the other lo-A stud Lastings Milledge?
I believe Milledge actually had a higher SLG% than Delmon in Sally league.
by Bobo2 on Feb 18, 2026 7:35 PM EST reply actions
lastings
by John Sickels on Feb 18, 2026 7:36 PM EST reply actions
amazing
He definitely needs to work on his strikezone judgement, which should be interesting to watch this year in FSL. There is a lot of upside in this guy because the K:BB ratio is the only knock on him right now, he has all the other tools to succeed.
I believe BA has him ranked in the top 10 just by tools alone. He did have a .330 BA in Sally league where Delmon and Stewart made their marks. His stats dropped in 86 at bats in FSL but on the bright side he did improve on K:BB after the promotion.
by Bobo2 on Feb 19, 2026 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Will Delmon play in the bigs, this year?
by dexter on Feb 18, 2026 9:49 PM EST reply actions
My guess...July 4th
by The Rocc on Feb 19, 2026 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Matthews and Jaso
And how about John Jaso? Is he has good a prospect as Riggans, especially with Riggan's continous elbow problems. He had a great season with HV is my favorite sleeper in the system. Thanks.
by JayBradley on Feb 18, 2026 9:52 PM EST reply actions
Brazelton
by RandyKutcherHair on Feb 18, 2026 11:05 PM EST reply actions
dewon
I dont know about the ceiling thing but I dont think he is projected to add anymore velocity. He actually lost some the past few years.
by Bobo2 on Feb 19, 2026 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Ehhh...
by Jim Wisinski on Feb 19, 2026 3:02 PM EST reply actions
Argh
by Jim Wisinski on Feb 19, 2026 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Diaz
by kingofthehobos on Feb 22, 2026 9:29 PM EST reply actions
Diaz...
by kingofthehobos on Feb 23, 2026 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
hello,
by Opheliakesal on Dec 20, 2025 12:40 AM EST reply actions

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