St. Louis Cardinals 2011 Top 20 PRE-SEASON Prospects in Review
St. Louis Cardinals 2011 Top 20 PRE-SEASON Prospects in Review
I am reviewing my PRE-SEASON list of Top 20 prospects for 2011 for each organization, continuing today with the St. Louis Cardinals. This list was originally published December 13, 2025. We will look the Seattle Mariners on Friday, the Florida Marlins on Saturday, the Los Angeles Angels on Sunday, the New York Mets on Monday, the Oakland Athletics on Tuesday, and the Houston Astros on Wednesday.
This is a review of the 2011 Pre-Season Top 20 list. IT IS NOT A NEW LIST.
The 2012 list and new grades won't be ready until the season is over and I start writing the book.
1) Shelby Miller, RHP, Grade A-: 2.89 ERA with 81/20 K/BB in 53 innings for High-A Palm Beach, 2.48 ERA with 69/24 K/BB in 69 innings for Double-A Springfield. 150/44 K/BB overall in 122 innings. Future ace as long as he stays healthy.
2) Tyrell Jenkins, RHP, Grade B: 3.73 ERA with 41/8 K/BB in 41 innings for short-season Johnson City so far, 48 hits, 2.74 GO/AO. I like him a lot.
3) Zack Cox, 3B, Grade B-: Hit .335/.380/.439 in 164 at-bats for Palm Beach, .306/.377/.430 in 258 at-bats for Springfield, 35 walks, 82 strikeouts overall. Home run power marginal for a third baseman but he's hitting for average as expected. Defense needs work.
4) Carlos Martinez (Matias), RHP, Grade B-: 2.33 ERA with 50/14 K/BB in 39 innings for Low-A Quad Cities, 5.23 ERA with 32/19 K/BB in 33 innings for Palm Beach. Excellent stuff, command needs some work but this is expected given his age (19).
5) Seth Blair, RHP, Grade B-: 5.06 ERA with 67/61 K/BB in 75 innings for Quad Cities, 71 hits, 1.55 GO/AO. Picking up grounders but command is much worse than I expected. Disappointing.
6) Matt Carpenter, 3B, Grade B-: Hitting .306/.429/.464 with 69 walks, 51 strikeouts in 343 at-bats for Triple-A Memphis. Excellent command of the strike zone. Defensive stats are very good despite mediocre scouting reports.
7) Eduardo Sanchez, RHP, Grade B-: 1.88 ERA with 33/16 K/BB in 29 major league innings, 14 hits, five saves. Has missed time with shoulder problems but effective when on the mound.
8) Oscar Taveras, OF, Grade B-: Hitting .385/.432/.583 with 19 walks, 41 strikeouts in 218 at-bats for Quad Cities. Just 19 years old. I'm a believer, stock way up.
9) Deryk Hooker, RHP, Grade B-: 37 innings in Double-A, 6.14 ERA with 27/14 K/BB, 40 hits allowed. Injured most of the year.
10) Allen Craig, OF, Grade C+ Hit .336/.405/.523 with 13 walks, 23 strikeouts in 107 at-bats for the Cardinals until knee injury. Major league career stats: .290/.351/.466 in 221 at-bats. That's not really a fluke; he's a really good hitter, he just needs health and opportunity.
11) Lance Lynn, RHP, Grade C+: 3.84 ERA, 64/25 K/BB in 75 innings for Memphis, 3.27 ERA with 37/10 K/BB in 33 innings for the Cardinals, 25 hits, 1.59 GO/AO. Looks legit to me.
12) Joe Kelly, RHP, Grade C+: 2.60 ERA with 62/34 K/BB in 73 innings for Palm Beach, 56 hits, 1.96 GO/AO. 5.86 ERA with 36/17 K/BB in 35 innings for Springfield, 41 hits, 2.22 GO/AO. ERA in Double-A is deceptive and he could take a big step forward next year with even small command refinements.
13) Jordan Swagerty, RHP, Grade C+: 1.75 ERA with 80/18 K/BB in 82 innings combined between Quad Cities and Palm Beach, just 60 hits, 1.82 GO/AO. Outstanding component ratios, could move rapidly next year.
14) Adam Reifer, RHP, Grade C+: Has missed almost entire season with knee injury suffered in April Triple-A game.
15) Cody Stanley, C, Grade C+: .266/.318/.430 with nine homers, 21 walks, 74 strikeouts in 305 at-bats for Quad Cities. Has thrown out 36% of runners. Plate discipline has taken a big hit against full-season pitching, stock down.
16) John Gast, LHP, Grade C+: 3.95 ERA with 59/28 K/BB in 82 innings for Palm Beach, 3.88 ERA with 36/23 K/BB in 51 innings for Springfield, 1.40 GO/AO combined. A decent year, but K/BB is deteriorating at the higher level and I'd be leery of pushing him too fast until that improves.
17) Tommy Pham, OF, Grade C+: .294/.372/.517 with 18 walks, 40 strikeouts in 143 at-bats for Springfield. Out with a wrist injury, unfortunate since he was building on strong finish to '10 season. In 264 Double-A at-bats over two seasons, is hitting .314/.398/.527 with 36 walks, 68 strikeouts.
18) Trevor Rosenthal, RHP, Grade C+: 3.46 ERA with 114/32 K/BB in 101 innings, 83 hits, 1.57 GO/AO. Very solid performance in all respects, an overlooked prospect who deserves more attention.
19) Nick Longmire, OF, Grade C+: .240/.296/.346 for Quad Cities, 21 walks, 62 strikeouts in 283 at-bats. Good tools, performance not here yet.
20) Blake King, RHP, Grade C: Got killed with command problems at Memphis (11.08 ERA, 19/20 K/BB in 13 innings). Cardinals gave up. Claimed on waivers by Astros, sent to Double-A, 2.87 ERA with 42/25 K/BB in 31 innings, 20 hits for Corpus Christi. He has the stuff, but held back by his control.
More good than bad here. Miller is outstanding, and if Martinez and Jenkins develop as expected, this system has three possible number one starters. Of course, keep in mind that if you have three great pitching prospects, you're doing well to get one actual pitcher out of the bunch, but the point is that they have them. Taveras looks great, while Cox and Carpenter give a couple of OBP/batting average-oriented corner bats that should be ready soon.
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Thoughts on Matt Adams?
The bat seems legit, walk and strikeout rates aren’t bad for a power hitter in the upper minors, and he’s not some 25-year-old beating up on younger players. I think First Inning has him listed as 23, but he has an August 31 b-day, so I think he’s actually been 22 all year. IsoP and walk rate are trending up as he’s promoted while maintaining an acceptable strikeout rate. He gets a bad body tag, and no 1B prospects are more blocked than Cardinal 1B prospects, but if Pujols were to leave…
by blackoutyears on Aug 11, 2025 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
Allen Craig
Completely agree that it comes down to health with him. He and J.D. Martinez have some similarities as hitters, Craig being the slightly older version.
by blackoutyears on Aug 11, 2025 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
De La Cruz
Thoughts on Roberto De La Cruz? Nice start this year in Johnson City.
by ryancsablotny on Aug 11, 2025 11:35 AM EDT reply actions
Descalso
What was your grade on Daniel Descalso before the season?
by BlueVol03 on Aug 11, 2025 12:01 PM EDT reply actions
Good question
I liked Dirty Dan as a fringe every day guy, and he’s done pretty well.
by blackoutyears on Aug 11, 2025 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Taveras
Anyone care to speculate on what grade Taveras might deserve now?
One of the writers for BA said recently that his tools (other than the hit tool) are average and that he should be viewed as a future utility guy for now. Obviously this is the skeptic’s view. I think the isolated power right now supports the idea that he could hit for above average power to go with a high average. Maybe it’s 20-25 HR, but that’s an above average regular.
by rlwhite on Aug 11, 2025 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
I would go B
Injuries and batting-average dependent stats keep me from going higher (right now).
His hit tool is supposed to be plus, and I think he gets good marks for D and has, as you said, potential for above-average power. I took that BA remark to be a tossed-off, bet-hedging remark.
by gogotabata on Aug 11, 2025 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
Probably a B. Will be interesting to track his progress.
by mrkupe on Aug 11, 2025 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Another question: Taveras or Oswaldo Arcia? The parallels are pretty interesting.
by limozeen on Aug 11, 2025 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
would have to take Arcia, wouldn't you?
They’re both corner guys, but Arcia has that power tool that gives him the edge in upside and (for what it is worth to you) enhances his ability to profile as a starter at a major league position.
by mrkupe on Aug 11, 2025 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
present power yeah
though Arcia has been a year older at each level they have played at and I think Taveras has just as much power potential
by hybrid on Aug 11, 2025 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you, but they are very similar prospects. I still have a few questions about both (namely, will they really hit enough to be a big league regular at a corner OF position?).
by limozeen on Aug 12, 2025 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
where are you getting "corner guy"?
Taveras is a legit CF prospect.
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
by tom s. on Aug 16, 2025 1:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Arcia
Went thru that same question myself in detail last offseason and Arcia pretty clearly came out on top then. Taveras’ performance in 2011 has been better than I had expected, but I’d still give my nod to Arcia. easy to see them flipping after any given year, though. Especially if one of them just stops getting hurt.
Eagerly waiting to hear the Cox to Wong to Pujols double play call.
by siddfynch on Aug 11, 2025 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
How high would Wong be on there?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 11, 2025 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
letsee
He’s been excellent in pro ball, in a full-season league no less, and he certainly can hit. Depends on what you like, I suppose. He could rank anywhere from 2-4 in this system, with Jenkins and Martinez taking the other two spots. All look like great prospects.
by mrkupe on Aug 11, 2025 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything I've read says Wong's defense has been good, too
by oplaid on Aug 11, 2025 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I'm a fan
My thinking is that all of the Martinez/Jenkins/Wong trio come in at B+. That might seem a little aggressive to some on Wong, but he’s a first round talent who projects to be above-average at his position, and he’s quite polished.
by mrkupe on Aug 11, 2025 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Cox and Carpenter
The two have been putting up fairly equal stat lines, is there 1 that is above the other in the eyes of the cards?
by Noah McKinnie Braun on Aug 11, 2025 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't say their statlines are equal at all
Carpenter’s line is far better, but he’s 26 years old already.
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by mysterui on Aug 11, 2025 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
More walks
yeah its true carpenter is having a better year but i consider them pretty equal, and yeah at 26 he really is kinda blocked by freese
by Noah McKinnie Braun on Aug 11, 2025 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about that. Freese has needed a .372 BABIP to get a .364 wOBA.
I think this offseason’s a good time to sell high on Freese and stick Carpenter in there every day as a 3B and leadoff guy
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by mysterui on Aug 11, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Descalso
he more of a block or do u think he can stick at MI?
by Noah McKinnie Braun on Aug 11, 2025 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Descalso has a pretty good argument that he should be the Cardinals' starting second baseman right now.
But that’s kind of a grain-of-salt argument, since he’s competing with Ryan Theriot and Skip Schumaker.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Aug 11, 2025 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Brendan Ryan
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by mysterui on Aug 11, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome stuff Mr. Sickels.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Aug 11, 2025 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
Trevor Rosenthal
really love this kid as he’s stuff has gone up a notch this season and expect a significant jump in grade come next season.
by RedHopeful on Aug 11, 2025 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
Ryan Jackson is another guy to talk about
Showing more power each year and his glove is still great, although his overall hitting numbers are not too amazing. Springfield also gives a pretty big boost to home runs, so his number this year could be a fluke.
by oplaid on Aug 11, 2025 2:45 PM EDT reply actions
Pleasing to see
how many of the C+ guys have improved this year. Always a very good sign for a system, especially since C+ can be kind of a catch-all grade given for different reasons. John also gets special compliments for noting Rosenthal well before most.
Agreed about Oplaid’s comment about Ryan Jackson. Will be interesting to see where he, Wong, Adams, and Rahmatulla get parked on offseason lists.
Eagerly waiting to hear the Cox to Wong to Pujols double play call.
by siddfynch on Aug 11, 2025 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Mr. Sickels
I want to thank you for opening my eyes to Trevor Rosenthal this past offseason. I have been beating the drum for him ever since. He is a dreamboat.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/10/11)
107 1/3 IP, 121 K, 47 BB/HBP, 43 ER, 5 HR, 2.86 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 11, 2025 7:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I had heard this system was down some
doesn’t look that way to me
by pack_fan on Aug 15, 2025 3:07 PM EDT reply actions

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