2011 MLB Draft: Afternoon Discussion Thread
by John Sickels on Jun 6, 2025 3:21 PM EDT
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Rick Monday Says: I was the first amateur baseball player drafted in the history of the universe. Bryce Harper got nothing on me.
Here is some fresh thread for you to chew on.
Who do YOU guys like as potential surprise picks?
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Frankie Piliere:
Buzz: Rangers, according to sources, could be a landing spot for Josh Bell at the very end of the first
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes;!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2025 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
Josh Bell is a Rangers fan
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by Russ on Jun 6, 2025 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a Yankees fan in 2009
Just kidding. Well he probably was, but still.
by Matt0330 on Jun 6, 2025 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't imagine Bell drops past the Rays at 24
by Dbullsfan on Jun 6, 2025 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh Bell at 24
If there are any doubts about the Rays really going ‘damn the torpedoes’ in terms of exhausting their supposed draft budget, selecting Josh Bell at 1.24 would pretty much squash said concerns.
by Matt0330 on Jun 6, 2025 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It depends on how concerned
teams really are about his signability. Currently, it is a HUGE question mark.
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by e2drummer on Jun 6, 2025 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
i can Bo Sox at 26
is my prediction
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 6, 2025 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Monday
Holy crap, that is some serious uppercut.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
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by free f.p. #14 on Jun 6, 2025 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
he should have given that flag burning bum an uppercut
by wilriv21 on Jun 6, 2025 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t see your comment. Great minds …
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2025 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
if you hadnt already put him in
I’d have put in Vogelbach as a pick in the supplementary
by BurgherKing on Jun 6, 2025 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
he's huge though
you think Jaff Decker is BIG , Try Vogelbach
at least a 1B/DH ….better go to A.L. team I’d hope for his sake and the drafting team’s sake.
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 6, 2025 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
A's rumors
I’m hearing A’s want Springer but not sure he’ll fall to them. Then they’d take Mahtook. After that they’d look at a college arm, thinking Sonny Gray would fall to them. And their possible surprise dark horse backup possibility would be Nimmo.
They’re not on Cron at all, or Bell. But they’re looking for a highly rated college arm to fall to them if they don’t get Springer or Mahtook.
by DavidS on Jun 6, 2025 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
I’d be very shocked it Springer falls to the A’s. They need to make other plans. Mahtook would be a similar type of player. I can’t see the A’s going with a HS guy there unless there really isn’t any decent college guy left at that point.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2025 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m hearing the Cubs prefer Mahtook to Springer, and that they’re also looking at taking somebody that’s not a consensus top 15 player. Brewers seem to have an agreement with Baez. Those are two of the teams rumored to go for a bat in the first round before the A’s, so Springer could slide if the Mets get a pitcher they prefer.
by DavidS on Jun 6, 2025 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
From Frankie Pilliere: Buzz; Cubs on lefty Onelki Garcia Speck at #9.
He’s the recent defector from Cuba.
by DavidS on Jun 6, 2025 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Norris
KG over at baseball prospectus says that the A’s have been scouting Daniel Norris quite heavily.
by bfeldman on Jun 6, 2025 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That’d be a good get. I’d like to get somebody like Norris in our system. I thought he might fall to the Giants.
by DavidS on Jun 6, 2025 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
RE: Rick Monday
Every time that I think of him I flash back on the time he grabbed the American flag from that douche-bag on Monday Night Baseball. That was one night that I didn’t hate the Dodgers.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2025 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Even with the rumors, I have to say that Spangenberg going to the Pads at #10 would qualify as a surprise pick.
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2025 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
Oh Cubs
Frankie Piliere:
Buzz: Cubs are going “way off the board” with their pick. Not exactly a surprised given last year but makes my job impossible trying to figure it out.
by deezle on Jun 6, 2025 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
Frankie Piliere:
Buzz; Cubs on lefty Onelki Garcia Speck at #9
by deezle on Jun 6, 2025 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding
apparently some Cuban defector. Not sure how he is even eligible for the draft
by deezle on Jun 6, 2025 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Frankie Piliere:
This is a strong one, folks. Very strong one. Cubs are all over this kid.
by deezle on Jun 6, 2025 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They see the speck in our neighbors island...
… but to not draft timber on their own.
by lhb98 on Jun 6, 2025 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
speck
LATE NOTE: Baseball America is reporting late rumors that some teams are in on a Cuban defector named Onelki Garcia Speck as a possible FIRST ROUND or supplemental pick. He’s a 23-year-old lefty who reportedly has a 90+ fastball and a big curve. I don’t know anything about him other than this vague report, but it bears watching.
by John Sickels on Jun 6, 2025 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
how did this kid go unnoticed through the entire draft process and suddenly pop up on draft day as an elite draft prospect (apparently as high as number 9)?!?!
by lomo45 on Jun 6, 2025 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
3 hours before draft time, lol
I have no idea. This is why I didn’t bother doing another mock draft! lol
by John Sickels on Jun 6, 2025 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know
But we know Wilken likes his obscure guys.
by Josh77 on Jun 6, 2025 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Most outlets probably didn't realize that he was draft eligible
and the teams sure as hell weren’t going to tell people about him.
by RynoRooter on Jun 6, 2025 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Why
is Speck even draft-eligible? Shouldn’t he be a FA if he’s a defector?
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by lemonjello on Jun 6, 2025 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He defected to the US
Most Cubans go to a Latin America country to avoid the draft. He he went straight to the US, he goes into the draft with everyone else.
by Josh77 on Jun 6, 2025 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems really stupid
Why would he want to go through the draft instead of become eligible for free agency?
by deezle on Jun 6, 2025 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
less time to check your birth certificate?
by AndrewTorrez on Jun 6, 2025 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
How did he get a Visa to stay?
Shouldn’t he have been removed from the country? I mean, it’s not like an illegal coming into the US is it? I want to know this story.
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by 306008 on Jun 6, 2025 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He sets foot on US soil directly from Cuba he's
a political asylum seeker and gets automatic green card with a direct path to citizenship. At least that’s what I remember of the process these days.
by Hull Fan on Jun 6, 2025 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
so he would of defected during a baseball tournament?
I’m not sure how the political asylum deal works.
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by 306008 on Jun 6, 2025 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
its pretty much
as soon as he says the words I want to defect whether he was doing a baseball activity or just snuck away somehow. Heck he might have even been able to go to another country then come here. Just know that Cuba has special dispensation that people from other countries don’t have and wouldn’t receive any benefit.
by Hull Fan on Jun 6, 2025 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This is correct
Grew up around Sarasota and we have refugees come ashore there. Border control can stop you in the water but once you hit land, you are free.
by TFelsmaier on Jun 6, 2025 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Border Control
I remember my history teacher in middle school telling us a story about a weird case where the border control stopped a group of people on a broken pier off the coast of Florida, and there was a huge debate on weather or not the broken pier was technically land since it wasn’t attached.
by gore51 on Jun 6, 2025 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
2 hours left
I am so flippin excited
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by mathisrocks5 on Jun 6, 2025 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
we have Rep Weiner to amuse us until draft time
by wilriv21 on Jun 6, 2025 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
so bizarre its
hilarious. Dear god what a moron. A lesson to all the guys out there, posting a picture of your dick on the internet cannot end positively. Just don’t do it.
by Hull Fan on Jun 6, 2025 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
How else
was I supposed to meet my wife?
by blackoutyears on Jun 6, 2025 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear ya, i’m so excited I’ve got restless leg syndrome!
by lomo45 on Jun 6, 2025 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be more excited
If I didnt have to go out and buy an air conditioner right away tonight after work, and had a movie thats on that Ive wanted to see for about 3 weeks now, and a Brewer Marlins game all at the same time…ugh, talk about serenity now.
by backtocali on Jun 6, 2025 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Jeff Driskel eligible?
or will he possibly have to wait to pull a Kyle Paker?
by Havok1517 on Jun 6, 2025 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
If the Padres take Spangenberg at 10
I am going to explode. I know it’s an unprotected pick, but come on. Have Barnes, Jungmann, Grey, Meyer, Springer, ETC all floated huge numbers or something?
by walnut falcons on Jun 6, 2025 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
jungmann for sure
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by Nnamdi Asomugha on Jun 6, 2025 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Ditto
Barnes, Meyer, Jungmann at that pick is my hope or unless of course Archie falls.
don't panic. stay cool. dream big.
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by thepadfather on Jun 6, 2025 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a ton of college arms we could pick. A metric ton. There's no reason to waste a pick out of signability concerns. At least take a shot.
I’d rather take a shot a Taylor Guerreri. The guy looks phenomenal.
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by padmadfan on Jun 6, 2025 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
"I am going to explode"
Was it painful?
by blackoutyears on Jun 6, 2025 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Slippage
There’s a lot of potential slippage in this draft.
I think the M’s take Rendon, but if they take Lindor then it gets unpredictable.
If the O’s take Archie Bradley over Bundy that causes slippage.
If the Cubs take Speck that causes pure mayhem.
If the Pads take Spangenberg, and the Brewers take Baez that also cause dominoes to fall.
Also it looks like Bell and Swihart will drop to the bottom of the first, maybe to Rangers and Red Sox.
It’s really unpredictable now.
I’d rather have the Dbacks picks than anybody else’s today. They’re guaranteed two studs.
by DavidS on Jun 6, 2025 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
It shrinks?
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by 306008 on Jun 6, 2025 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
As an A's fan, I love the thought of guys like Speck and Spangenberg going before 18
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by CaliforniaJag on Jun 6, 2025 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
mock
I’m glad I didn’t waste my time doing another mock, lol
by John Sickels on Jun 6, 2025 5:12 PM EDT reply actions
truly shows how deep this draft is
other years you could get a feel of the top tier and go from there. This year the upper tiers are so big that there are many comparables and it really kills trying to predict the draft
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes;!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
by laxtonto on Jun 6, 2025 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Signability
John - do you think the depth of this draft will cause signability cases to fall further than usual, as the same pick in next year’s draft will be nowhere near the value of this year’s?
by lhb98 on Jun 6, 2025 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
eh...
I don’t know. Could have the opposite effect, if agents worry that the new CBA will put hard slotting into place for bonuses.
by John Sickels on Jun 6, 2025 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams Jerez
I could see the Rays using one of their first round pick on Jerez. Just a feeling.
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by Pelferized on Jun 6, 2025 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
Saving MONEY!
when you have 10 picks and slot value is something like a collective 15 Million….
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by 306008 on Jun 6, 2025 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Details on Garcia are fuzzy, but Baseball America has learned that he throws in the 92-95 mph range with an above-average curveball.
The agency representing Garcia, Miami Sports Consulting, LLC, has reportedly sent teams a fax demanding a major league deal
According to one source, Garcia pitched three seasons with Guantanimo, going 12-12, 4.73 over 205 innings. In 46 games (45 starts), he struck out 195 but walked 128. His last season was 2009-10, when he went 5-6, 3.40.
http://www.elnuevoherald.com/2011/01/17/870550/escapan-de-cuba-dos-promesas-del.html
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by 306008 on Jun 6, 2025 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
Crazy stuff going down with the Cuban
apparently his agent/handler has been telling teams he is NOT eligible for the draft, and will be a free agent.
MLB just sent out a letter saying he IS eligible, and to ignore his agent Gus something or other.
by deezle on Jun 6, 2025 5:46 PM EDT reply actions
Piliere
Currently talking on a Toronto Sports radio station
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by hrv2010 on Jun 6, 2025 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
yaboy
Talked about Levi Micheal and Kolten Wong.
Said Micheal compares to Lowrie a bit, with less power, not an exciting pick but could be a regular major leaguer, could stay at SS depending on the team.
Heard that some teams think Wong can move positions, possibly even catcher, perenial 300 hitter with 15-20 homer pop.
Then some general stuff about injuries and budgets.
by daman316 on Jun 6, 2025 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hope we don't end up with either one of those guys
but definitely not Michael.
by Dbullsfan on Jun 6, 2025 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
mlb.com
anybody else watching on mlb.com? If so, can you get it to go full screen?
by gore51 on Jun 6, 2025 6:49 PM EDT reply actions
i got my to full-screen but its not quite whole screen size
about 3/4 of my screen.,
Glen Perkins is throwing 97 MPH in 2011 !!! ~Currently on the DL~
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 6, 2025 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
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Glen Perkins is throwing 97 MPH in 2011 !!! ~Currently on the DL~
Big fan of Juerys Familia and his repitoire
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 6, 2025 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm
I thought this started at 6. When are we going to see a pick being made
by JJACK on Jun 6, 2025 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
The Pirates suck at picking 1st overall
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by Marinerfanjake on Jun 6, 2025 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
Cole goes #1!
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by hero66 on Jun 6, 2025 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
OMG
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
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by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2025 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
And Keith Law says Bauer is next
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
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by hero66 on Jun 6, 2025 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
Lord I hope so...
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jun 6, 2025 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Bauer and Rendon would put Arizona at the top of the list for best draft
obviously with whatever the Rays can do with all there picks
by Dbullsfan on Jun 6, 2025 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Rendon might be in a free fall
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by Russ on Jun 6, 2025 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
O's take Bundy
Rendon continues to fall
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by hero66 on Jun 6, 2025 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
Bundy didn't look to pleased to go to B-More
by Dbullsfan on Jun 6, 2025 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sibling rivalry?
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by hero66 on Jun 6, 2025 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The D-backs dream situation doesn't happen
No Bauer/Rendon. :-((((((((
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by Dan Strittmatter on Jun 6, 2025 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
Cron
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Keep an eye on my son, Jake "The Jacksonville Rifle" Dunning. From SS to the mound - exclusively toeing the rubber since March 2010.
by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2025 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Split him in half and he can catch and play 1B at the same time.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Keep an eye on my son, Jake "The Jacksonville Rifle" Dunning. From SS to the mound - exclusively toeing the rubber since March 2010.
by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2025 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, he has below-average bat-speed. That’s a worry.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Keep an eye on my son, Jake "The Jacksonville Rifle" Dunning. From SS to the mound - exclusively toeing the rubber since March 2010.
by Fla-Giant on Jun 6, 2025 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well, there's always the "DH position"
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by feslenraster on Jun 7, 2025 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
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