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Thoughts on the Eric Hosmer Promotion

Additional Thoughts on Eric Hosmer

There seems to be a split among Kansas City Royals fans about the promotion of Eric Hosmer. Some think it is crazy and short-sighted, others think it is a wise move. Here is my position.

First, some points of clarification.

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Point One: I'm a Twins fan, not a Royals fan. I follow the Royals very closely because I live nearby, but I'm not a particular fan of the team. I don't hate them either, but I don't have an emotional concern here. I don't have Hosmer on a fantasy team,

Point Two: I am generally against rushing players, and I think most players benefit from a full year at each level. This is not a hard-and-fast rule that applies to everyone, but I think it is a useful guideline. I would rather be too conservative about promoting a player than too aggressive.

Point Three: As a GM, I think Dayton Moore has done a lot of things right in terms of building the farm system, drafting well, and (most importantly) convincing ownership to actually put money into the team. It's amazing what your scouts can do when you actually have the resources for player development, which was the biggest problem in KC previously. On the negative side, many of Moore's moves on the major league roster haven't worked well, and in my view there seems to be an excessive fetish for ex-Braves in the organization.
     Overall, it's a mixed picture, but the organization is certainly in better shape than it was five years ago. I'm neither a basher nor a booster, and am quite willing to see how "the process" works out. Maybe it is just easier for me to take that approach since I'm not emotionally invested, but that's the way I see it.

Point Four: I have been pro-Kila Ka'aihue, possibly because I've been watching the guy play in the minors for many years at the A, AA, and AAA levels. I've seen him at his worst, locked in a long slump, his swing messed up, unable to handle either good fastballs or breaking stuff. I've also seen him at his best, when his swing is working well and he's destroying everything thrown his way. I still think he's capable of hitting enough to be useful in the majors, and that 326 plate appearances spread out over three seasons isn't a true test of his ability, especially given that he often needs adjustment time at new levels. Given enough playing time, I think he would figure thing out well enough to be at least a useful complementary platoon bat.

Point Five: I think promoting Eric Hosmer is the right thing to do for team. The major league team is playing decently. Even if they win just 85 games, that could be enough to contend for the division title this year. There is a morale factor to consider here: the organization itself is tired of losing and the fan base entered the season rather demoralized and impatient.
      The front office is well-aware of this factor (Moore made that point to me himself this spring), and even a .500 season would go a long way towards boosting spirits in the city and the front office.
      Hosmer, right now, is unlikely to be weaker with the bat than Kila currently is, has a good chance to be better, and is a superior defensive player. If the Royals were in last place and had no chance to compete, then sure, you're screwed anyway, so give Kila another 300 at-bats to see if he can figure things out. But that's not the situation right now. They have a chance to be decent this year, and Hosmer is more likely to help them stay that way than Kila is, as it currently stands.

Point Six: There are two reasons not to promote Hosmer: if you think it would harm his long-term development, and money, and I don't think either of these issues overrides point five.          
     Hosmer is destroying Triple-A. Everything I'm hearing about his performance indicates that it isn't a fluke, and that the Pacific Coast League doesn't have much left to teach him about hitting.  I am generally opposed to rushing players, and I think that most players benefit from a full season at each level. But there are exceptions, and Hosmer looks like one to me. I don't think bringing him to the majors now is a significant risk to his career.
     As for the money issue, we don't know if the whole "super-two" service time issue will even be a factor once the new Basic Agreement comes into play. Even if it does, if Hosmer turns out to be as good as expected, you're going to have to pay him the big bucks, anyway. If the team plays well this year, the club's finances will improve anyhow. I am generally very much an advocate of long-term thinking, but if bringing Hosmer up now increases my chance to contend this year, then I'm not going to worry so much about what the team's salary structure is going to look like in 2015.
   
My basic conclusion is this: given all these factors, balancing the long-term and short-term needs of the organization, and even as a person who is pro-Kila, I would promote Hosmer, too.

I would then turn my attention to
1) Finding someone to replace Kyle Davies, who is just not going to improve. I AM averse to promoting Dan Duffy too quickly, and don't want to see Duffy up before mid-July.
2) Finding some additional outfield depth; Gordon, Cabrera, and Francoeur won't stay hot forever, especially if you keep playing them every single day;
3) Disabuse myself of the notion that Jason Kendall has anything left in the tank, and look for some catching. Luke May and Manuel Pina at Omaha aren't the answer.
4) Drafting Bubba Starling

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i'm not terribly fascinated with Mazzaro

but i think he would fix problem #1. might be a #4. hey, still an improvement.

i don’t see #2 as an issue. Dyson is there (who at worst will provide exceptional defense). Lough and Cain are ML ready or nearly there.

  1. is a problem though. i’m hopeful Perez can hit enough to have his great defense in the lineup. but that’s not until next year at the earliest.

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by doublestix on May 6, 2025 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

formatting sucks

 three is a problem.

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by doublestix on May 6, 2025 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

ex-braves

I realize this isn’t a major point, but it’s something I’ve been thinking about lately. Is Moore’s Braves fetish really a bad thing? If you’re a losing team relegated to getting players from the scrap heap until your farm’s rebuilt, aren’t the scraps shed from winning teams likely to be better players than scraps from elsewhere (in other words, replacement level for consistent winners is likely to be higher)? If you can add to that intimate familiarity with those players, doesn’t that improve your chances of uncovering a player who just needed a change of scenery? Aren’t the Braves also known for developing players well, teaching the game right?

Under the circumstances, I think Moore’s Braves fetish is possibly justified and at worst innocuous for a team that would be losing anyway. If it continues when the Royals are a winning organization, I’ll be very concerned.

by rlwhite on May 6, 2025 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

well....

My impression is that sometimes they’ve gone with a Braves castoff or product when better options from other organizations might have been available. I think diversity of background is good and that they (or any other team) should be bringing in talented people and players from all sorts of places and build their own brand of success rather than just copy someone else.

That said, they have done this…bringing in Arbuckle from the Phillies for example. I’m not saying it’s really a problem, but more of an observation I suppose.

by John Sickels on May 6, 2025 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Similar to the White Sox...

infatuation with ex-Royals. My questions is, if the Royals love ex-Braves and the White Sox loves ex-Royals, who is waiting out the current White Sox roster?

by polodude017 on May 6, 2025 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

See also Pirates re: Dodgers.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 6, 2025 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or, for that matter, Dodgers re: Giants.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on May 6, 2025 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

orioles re: cubs

Corey Patterson, Felix Pie, Rich Hill, Jake Fox, Derek Lee

by THESWAMI6 on May 6, 2025 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

due to MacPhail...former Cubs' GM

So one can draw the same line between Moore and the Braves

by dbreer23 on May 6, 2025 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's also been quite a few ex-Mariners on the Royals over the years.

Gil Meche, Yuniesky Betancourt, Scott Podsednik, Willie Bloomquist, Jose Guillen, and Miguel Olivo just off the top of my head.

by lmeyer40 on May 6, 2025 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

fans

I think people are really underselling the point of getting fans excited. If the Royals can even pretend to contend for a while this summer that’s a big boost to the morale of the fanbase, and is likely to help attendance both this year and next. If this move is seen as part of a plan to contend in 2012, you’re setting up better ticket sales over that time frame, possibly making the super two concern quite moot.

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by t ball on May 6, 2025 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

He is ready

Nothing left to prove in AAA, and it was time to bring him up. If they leave him down there too long maybe becomes complacent, or loses focus. its like the 5 year old in Kindergarten who can read and spell and count and add already, they need to be challenged to grow intellectually.

I actually look forward to seeing him play tonight and will watch on mlb package on cable tv.

by backtocali on May 6, 2025 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Kind of a perfect storm here.

If you have any questions about Hosmer being ready, you don’t do it. If the Royals are headed for another last-place season, you don’t do it. If Kila is hitting, you don’t do it.

Instead, the Royals are presented with a situation where the incumbent first baseman isn’t hitting, and even if Hosmer isn’t 100% ready, it’s hard to see how he won’t improve on a .612 OPS. And this season, with the Tigers, White Sox, and Twins scuffling, even if Hosmer is only worth two or three extra wins over the course of the season it may very well be worth it.

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by Tom (RFTN) on May 6, 2025 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

to Points 5 and 6.

by RedHopeful on May 6, 2025 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Braves have a ton of pitching

If ATL is willing to eat a decent chunk of Lowe’s contract, maybe he would be a good fit atop the KC rotation. ATL certainly has enough options in the minors to take his place.

by samjjones on May 6, 2025 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd make that call as a GM

find a win/win. Braves could promote Minor or Teheran and add depth to another position.

by noelman31 on May 6, 2025 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

MOUS would have been up, too

If not for the fact that Betemit has been hitting the shit out of the ball all season long.

by samjjones on May 6, 2025 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

well and he's not off to a good start

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by doublestix on May 6, 2025 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I know a lot of people liked Mous more, but he is a far more flawed hitter.

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by JD Sussman on May 6, 2025 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

outfield depth

Isn’t there some hope that Lorenzo Cain be the CF of the future? He started out slowly in AAA (injured maybe), but seems to be turning it on. Also, he may not be the future, but Gregor Blanco is in AAA with MLB experience.

by noelman31 on May 6, 2025 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that is the expectation

Many thought there was a chance he would make the team out of spring training.

by deezle on May 6, 2025 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

This season to do list.

If Moustakas starts to warm up i think Betemit could snag us a pretty big haul with how well he has been hitting. Also Cain is starting to hit well and Cabrera has done enough to look like he is playing pretty well even though his OBP is terrible. I think a GM would bite. I would say major league ready pitching and catching would be the top priorities.

I think Duffy should be up soon to replace Davies but i am not opposed to him waiting a little more. If Sullivan begins to struggle i wouldn’t mind seeing Teaford or Marrazzo getting some looks.

Drafting Bubba Starling would be on my wish list but i trust anyone we draft.

I don’t think catcher is something we can fix this year but with our low payroll and if we can at least stay competitive we should throw some money at the best catcher on the market. Also with the money we could play with i would love to see us go for a big time pitching free agent.

by vic1124 on May 6, 2025 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Well said Mr. Sickles I like what you had to say there

The More I think about it, I guess the Royals were bound to call up Hosmer at some point in 2011…. So might as well be when the ball looks like a beach ball rather than a ping-pong ball to Eric.

i do agree that 300+ PA’s for Killa stretched out over 3 years is not a Real shot given by K.C. to Ka"aihue and i suppose its not to say they’ll never go back to him but I think his time in K.C. is all but over now.

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on May 6, 2025 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree he is getting old and seems like he might just end up being a AAAA player.

Also to day was Hosmer’s big Day although He went 0-2, He did manage to get two hard fighting walks and even stole a base. Not to mention his defense looked very impressive.
Boy i havent seen the KC fans this excited for someone since Brett, They ga

by Jt Malley on May 7, 2025 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wonder how much of this is driven by a .500 BABIP

If it’s just a .350 BABIP and his line looks more like .320/.410/.465, do they call him up, or does he need to learn how to drive the ball?

And don’t tell me he’s just scorching the ball like no one has ever seen, if that was true he’d have more than 3 HRs in the PCL.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on May 7, 2025 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Kila

It looks like his best shot would be to go to Japan.

by kimo from kauai on May 9, 2025 3:52 AM EDT reply actions  

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