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Andrew Bailey traded to Red Sox



Along with Ryan Sweeney for Josh Reddick, Raul Alcantara, and Miles Head.

I think the Red Sox made a great deal, they gave up two prospects with decent, not great ceilings who are very far away for a cheap closer. Reddick was cheap and pretty good, but Sweeney is a better defender and has a better OBP. The Red Sox can now make Bard a starter.

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what are your thoughts on this trade? I like it, but I may be a homer.

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for the Red Sox. Makes sense for the A’s as they are just adding an absolute glut of talent in a complete rebuild/fire-sale, but you tagged it right. Red Sox didn’t give up too much and added an important piece for a playoff run this year.

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 28, 2025 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Terrible deal for the A's

The only reason they did this deal is to clear salary. They got almost nothing in return for Sweeney and Bailey and it is obvious they are cleaning house to make the move to San Jose. It is like we are watching the real life version of Major League. Now if they would only sign Charlie Sheen so A’s fans could have something to cheer for.

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by King Billy Royal on Dec 28, 2025 8:25 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

And the worse part is it didn’t really save a whole lot of salary. I could see the trade minus Sweeney, that makes a bit more sense, but throwing him into the deal and selling low on him, given the lack of outfielders they have, is crazy. Not sure why they wanted another 1B prospect either. I really think they could have waited until the trading deadline and got a better return at that point than they did in this trade.

by cookiedabookie on Dec 28, 2025 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

While I'm not blown away by the return

I really don’t get the meme about the A’s lacking OF options. With the addition of Reddick they now have four guys(five if you think Jermaine Mitchell is ready for a shot) who deserve some playing time in the OF-Reddick, Cowgill, Michael Taylor, and Brandon Allen. None of those guys are likely to be stars, even league average players might be too high for a couple of them, but this is the time to see what you have with these guys. Same with Kila Ka’aihue/Daric Barton at 1B, Chris Carter at DH and Scott Sizemore at 3B. If they prove incapable of holding an MLB job, fine, but at least you’ve given them the chance. Maybe you get two or three starters out of those seven or eight names overall, maybe you get lucky and it’s closer to four or five worthwhile starters.

Did I want to see the A’s get more for Bailey? Absolutely, though I’ve long been a fan of Reddick and hope he blossoms with a full time role. I don’t think Sweeney is a huge loss, he’s not the same player defensively since his knee trouble and I was worried he’d take PA’s away from the younger guys who need a chance. I’m not really sure how another 1B prospect isn’t needed,either. While there are options at the MLB level I’m not sold there is an average regular out of Allen/Barton/Kila but Head is 3 years away at least and by then either someone emerged as a solid option or the job is his for the taking.

I’m glad that the A’s are moving to a full on rebuild, I’m ready for Suzuki to move on and give Josh Donaldson and Anthony Recker a shot at the C spot before Norris is ready, McCarthy/Fuentes/Balfour to move at the deadline and Brett Anderson likely gone next offseason should he prove healthy down the stretch. I’d rather the team be outright awful for two to three years while adding the pieces for the next contending team through trades and the draft than treading water around .500 for another five to seven years.

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by gatling on Dec 29, 2025 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The problem isn't that they don't have players to play in the outfield

It is just many of them are going to be terrible defensively.

by cookiedabookie on Dec 29, 2025 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Outside of Allen

I don’t think I’d rate any of the other options as terrible defensively in the OF. I’m much more concerned with the offensive output they will provide than their defensive prowess.

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by gatling on Dec 29, 2025 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well whoever plays center is going to be stretched beyond their skills

Allen in LF - not pretty
Reddick in CF - not enough range
Taylor in RF - maybe only below average (as opposed to horrible)
Cowgill as a platoon/late inning defensive replacement.

That is not a good outfield, and could have used Sweeney in CF, Reddick in RF, Taylor/Allen platoon in LF, with Cowgill as the fifth outfielder/defensive replacement in LF. Then that would be at least an average defensive outfield, and a better offensive one. I am just surprised they had to give Sweeney up - he is still inexpensive, and at a low value point. Worst case, you trade him mid-season or non-tender him next offseason if you can’t trade him or afford him in his second arb year.

by cookiedabookie on Dec 29, 2025 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree

I don’t think either Reddick or Cowgill will be much worse defensively in CF than Sweeney at this point. He’s not the same guy he was three years ago, and even then he wasn’t much more than average in CF, maybe a tick above before the knee injury.

I’m not sure keeping him would have done anything more than block someone else the A’s need a long look at. Sweeney wasn’t a good bet to rebound in value in Oakland, so moving him here for a lottery ticket type in either Head or Alcantara seems about the best the could do. Moving him means at least one other guy gets a look with the bat regularly, which is the more important at this point.

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by gatling on Dec 29, 2025 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Reddick in CF – not enough range

Don’t agree with this at all. Plenty of range for a corner.

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by alskor on Dec 29, 2025 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm assuming his point was

His range will be enough to make him playable in center.

by mrkupe on Dec 29, 2025 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Sorry, that could have been more clear… meant he has plenty of range in a corner and so you could use him in CF. I’ve seen him play there… he’s below average but not terrible. He’s usable there, though I’d stick him in RF and use Cowgill in CF.

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by alskor on Dec 29, 2025 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

not enough range

was meant to mean below average, not terrible.

by cookiedabookie on Dec 29, 2025 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

Like I said, I’d play Cowgill there - though I agree as well that he fits best as a 4th OFer.

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by alskor on Dec 29, 2025 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Allen's not an outfielder.

He’s a first baseman and will be the everyday starter in Oakland.

Sorry, Daric Barton fans, the the flash in the pan is no longer shining.

OF is Cowgill, Reddick and Taylor for now.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Oakland bring a couple of experienced outfielders to ST as non-roster players.

by Kelsdad on Dec 29, 2025 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

what about Chris Carter?

He definitely can’t play the outfield.

by cookiedabookie on Dec 29, 2025 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Carter is a DH only

he doesn’t need to see the field defensively anywhere.

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by gatling on Dec 29, 2025 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

fair enough

I would trust Barton’s bat over Cowgill or Taylor at this point either way.

by cookiedabookie on Dec 29, 2025 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure I'd really trust Barton's bat that much

but even if I did, he’s not going to be around for the next contending team the A’s have. I’d much rather see Cowgill and Taylor get PA’s to see if they have a chance of contributing going forward.

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by gatling on Dec 29, 2025 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree he won't be around for the next good A's team (not sure who will to be honest)

But they probably should give Barton a chance to reclaim some trade value. At least that would make sense to me. If that looks like a failure by midseason, drop him back down and go all out with Cowgill and Taylor - a half a season is not going to hurt the evaluation of their future worth.

by cookiedabookie on Dec 29, 2025 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe Barton

will miss at least a month of the regular season, based on the last timetable I saw. It could be a bit longer than that too I suppose. If when he’s healthy you have someone that isn’t hitting, work him back in and send someone down for a bit maybe. I’m just not sure how much trade value he’s going to build up, as I think he burned up most of what he had last year. He was a non-tender candidate in my mind, but they’re paying him around $2 million I think so he’ll probably get some PT once he’s healthy. I’m just not sold enough on his bat anymore to feel he’ll justify taking away from someone else, either in his contributions on the field or his ability to build enough trade value to bring back something of worthwhile in a trade.

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by gatling on Dec 29, 2025 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Another possibility for the A's OF, especially in the second half, is

Grant Green.

He’s on a learning curve obviously, but the A’s didn’t move him so he could spend all year in Sacramento.

by Kelsdad on Dec 30, 2025 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

as an A’s fan I really don’t like this.

by notsukao on Dec 28, 2025 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

Rangers and Red Sox were the rumored teams

Figured they would’ve been targeting Olt or Middlebrooks.

by BryceHarper on Dec 28, 2025 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

shows that

RP’s just aren’t worth that much in the trade market, even when their contracts are team friendly.

by smk1363 on Dec 29, 2025 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially not...

When they’re already entering their arb years, are TJ survivors who were abused in college, have had recurring forearm and elbow problems the last two seasons (raising fears of a 2nd TJ) and have had microfracture surgery on their plant knee.

I just don’t know that Bailey ever carried the value within the industry that people assumed he did. When healthy, he’s a very effective pitcher (albeit a flyball one) who can miss bats.

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by alskor on Dec 29, 2025 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

For sure

I’m not disagreeing with that, but if you are going to sell him, I figured they would only do so if they were getting a good haul; otherwise, it would seem more prudent to try and deal him at the deadline or to a team that become desperate. After all, Santos netted Nestor Molina (B+) prospect, and Bailey was an all-star with a fairly good contract. I don’t think either of those two guys would have been out of the ballpark.

by BryceHarper on Dec 29, 2025 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I definitely agreed with that.

I did not expect him to be moved and I do think the return was kind of weak.

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by alskor on Dec 29, 2025 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I'm the only one

but I prefer Reddick to Molina, though admittedly I’ve been a Reddick fan for awhile. Santos has more years of team control and a clean injury history, so while I thought Kenny Williams did a poor job on that trade I think the A’s got back more in the Bailey deal. It’s still less than I would have liked to see, as Olt my preferred centerpiece in a trade overall(Cecchini would have been the realistic centerpiece from the Sox IMO, though I had my fingers crossed for Bogaerts).

I tend to agree with Al, I’m not sure Bailey was quite the commodity many of us perceived, and I sort of think this trade bears it out(unless we hear of a better offer that was turned down). As for holding him until the deadline, I have to wonder if the A’s weren’t concerned about Bailey being available for a trade health wise at that point. Sort of a “bird in the hand” thing.

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by gatling on Dec 29, 2025 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

agree with both

Bailey is being overrated, since he is an injury risk and has the “closer” label, and Reddick is being underrated. I think it’s a fair deal.

by wobatus on Dec 30, 2025 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

You forgot to talk about Jose Iglesias's babip!

Quick! Edit!

What could be better than Dan Johnson
hitting .108
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!

by QW on Sep 28, 2025 9:47 PM CDT

by SandalsNoPants on Dec 28, 2025 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

I'll take the A's side in this, slightly

Two guys making ~$5 million combined with injury issues given up in exchange for Reddick and a couple of upside plays? Sure, that’s a pretty decent trade for all sides. I’m bullish on Reddick, though.

I guess I can understand why the Red Sox want Bailey, but why do they want Sweeney?

by mrkupe on Dec 28, 2025 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Platton with Aviles in RF?

Sweeney .286/.365/.377 v. righties

Aviles .318/.348/.576 v. lefties

would make for an ok solution to the right field situation, at least in terms of platton and Sweeney being a really nice defensive complement….

by thomasps3 on Dec 28, 2025 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh.

That means you’re getting 286/.365/.377 most of the time out of your RF, though. No thanks. Do Not Like. Gotta be a veteran they can pick up somewhere that can best that.

Upside - If Sweeney can do that and play plus defense in RF (not 100% he can do either, personally)… well, that’s not a whole lot different from what the Yankees get from Brett Gardner, is it?

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by alskor on Dec 29, 2025 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

that was my thinking, all the way around

I’m not all that confident in Sweeney’s health. Not to mention . . .I know Ryan Kalish spent most of this year banged up himself, but if he’s healthy, it sure seems like he could play Sweeney’s role (platoon corner with plus defense) without much of a problem.

I still feel like Josh Reddick could explode now that he seems to have stabilized his major league role, as well.

by mrkupe on Dec 29, 2025 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Kalish

I think long-term he’s the answer in RF in Boston. He may platoon in RF in 2012, but 5 years from now he will be the better player than Reddick.

That being said, I like the trade from both sides. Closers have pretty close to zero value for non-contending teams. Why not deal one for some upside and see if you can hit a jackpot?

by guru4u on Dec 29, 2025 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah... I've always thought Kalish was a better player than Reddick.

Sweeney as a stop gap may be because the Sox FO feels the same way and just wants Kalish to prove his health for a couple months.

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by alskor on Dec 29, 2025 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Your AL Top 50 from 2009

is listed on the right corner of this page as a related fanpost. You ranked Reddick 14th and Kalish 38. Maybe that was because Kalish was coming off injury (?) but i always thought you liked Reddick.

When he first came up this year I fell for the small sample initial burst. That and the walks in AAA this year. Then he really slumped. Still, I think he could still turn into a decent corner. But it is hard for Boston to have that kind of patience since it is a win now (or rather, win every year) team.

by wobatus on Dec 29, 2025 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It was because of the injury, yes.

That was the year Reddick dramatically improved his approach as well.

A mistake by me to use the word “always” but if you search my comments (especially red sox related/over the monster) you’ll see I’ve always been a big Kalish fan. He’s a little more toolsy and athletic than Reddick and the way Kalish controls the strike zone is fantastic. I love players like that.

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by alskor on Dec 29, 2025 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I get the kalish love

His shoulder thing was unfortunate timing, since he could have been the one getting a half season of at bats in rf last year. I knew you liked both but your high ranking of Reddick back then got me curious about him as well.

by wobatus on Dec 29, 2025 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I saw that right after I made that post

Tough break for Boston. I really like Kalish’s skills. Maybe they try to bring Drew back on a 1 year deal now.

by guru4u on Dec 30, 2025 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Andruw Jones

Barring a trade, I think AJ makes the most sense. If he wants a shot at starting, he’s got a much better chance against Sweeney and Kalish than Gardner, Granderson and Swisher. Ultimately, short of a trade, a think Sweeney/Jones platoon with Kalish waiting in the wings is a likely and reasonable scenario.

by mg050369 on Dec 29, 2025 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought bb would get more, but

Perhaps he knows Bailey has a messed up elbow and grabbed what he could.

by St.Steve on Dec 28, 2025 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Or perhaps BB is a very overrated GM

And he knows that the A’s are done in Oakland and he will take anything to get rid of salary.

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by King Billy Royal on Dec 28, 2025 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

I haven’t been drinking the BB koolaid for years. I’ve took a lot of flack for my BB remarks, but the guy has had a terrible run of stupid contracts (Ben Sheets), bad trades (Matt Holliday) and bad drafting.

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by King Billy Royal on Dec 30, 2025 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone knows Bailey has a messed up elbow

The guy is good, but he’s thrown 90 innings in the last two years and had a consultation with Dr. James Andrews this year about another Tommy John surgery. I think we all look at Bailey’s shiny ERAs and forget to look at the IP - the guy spends a lot of time on the rack.

I’m neutral on the trade - Reddick isn’t great, but he’s more valuable than his raw stats indicate. Like the two prospects. I don’t know, nor do the rest of us, whether there was a better offer out there for a very good but oft-injured reliever, but the time to move Bailey was definitely now: he’s worthless to the 2012 A’s, and would only get less valuable to other teams as time and his contract ticks on.

by jdr on Dec 29, 2025 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

other then Ben Cherrington?

I wouldn’t tell him that.

I think the Red Sox win the trade, sure Bailey’s elbow could probably flair up again at any time.

But what if it doesnt’? AT least not in 2012? I think its a semi-HUGE win for the Red Sox who don’t even need Reddick as anything more than a #3-4 OF.

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 29, 2025 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I’m saying that’s why Bailey didn’t draw the huge haul we all seem to have expected.

by jdr on Dec 29, 2025 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

reddick

Despite its limitations, Reddick’s WAR last year (via Fangraphs) came in at 1.9 over 287 plate appearances. If he can just hold where he was at last year, he’s going to be a nice piece. If he continues to improve at all, he’s a hell of a value, especially considering that he won’t be arbitration eligible until 2014.

by mrkupe on Dec 29, 2025 6:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't like this for the A's

They have to be extremely confident that Reddick will reach his potential, otherwise this makes absolutely no sense to me. Sweeney is very talented defender, has posted a decent career OPS, and is still only 26, so I am confused as to why they’d give him up in the deal as well.

On the otherside. I’m really hoping Sweeney is pegged for the 4th OF role in Boston, with Ryan Kalish getting a chance to play every day. I imagine RF will at least be an open competetion in spring training, barring any future signings. If Kalish comes back healthy he could be a nice addition to their lineup. (Note: that is a quite large if)

by ajake57 on Dec 28, 2025 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm

Not sure that I’d say that Sweeney has a decent career OPS. He’s ideally a corner OF with a career OPS+ of 95 and 91 last year. Also has injury problems. He’s not worth really anything on the trade market, though I think he can be a good fourth OF. Bailey’s value also gets way overstated.

If not for Bailey’s ROY and closer status and the disproportionate number of A’s fans on online message boards, this would be rightly recognized as a minor deal. The Sox got a decent bench player and a small upgrade in the pen, and the A’s got an OF who won’t embarrass them while they’re rebuilding (and might make good trade bait if he has a good season in the next three) and a baby pitcher who might be good. Not nothing for nothing, but not exactly Alomar and Carter for McGriff and Fernandez either.

by yarky1 on Dec 29, 2025 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

We must have different definitions of decent

An OPS+ of 95-105 would be exactly what I call decent. And I think you’re seriously underrating Bailey here. He’s a huge upgrade in the pen. Regardless of his health issues, for his career he’s struck out a batter an inning and allowed fewer than one baserunner per inning. When healthy, he’s a legitimate stud reliever.

What I may have marginalized in my original post was Sweeney’s defense, I totally disregarded his injury history and how that has affected him. I still think he can be an above average defender, but I don’t know that he’d be “very talented” at this point.

by ajake57 on Dec 30, 2025 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess we do

I do not consider an OPS+ that is well below the standards for a position to be “decent.” YMMV, and obviously does in this case.

by yarky1 on Dec 30, 2025 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough

I don’t consider defensive position when looking at OPS or OPS+. So the fact that he’s reasonably close to league average leaves him in the decent category for me.

by ajake57 on Dec 30, 2025 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it for the A's

…but only because I see Miles Head as a 3-4 WAR first baseman by 2014 or so. One of the more underrated prospects, to me. By my lights he’s a top 50-60 overall guy. Tremendous bat potential…and might (perfect world) even be able to play some hot corner.

No, Miles doesn’t have prototypical 1B size, at just 6’ tall, but anyone who’s 19 on Opening Day, and mashes Sally pitching to the tune of .338/.409/.612 is alright by me, whatever their defensive limitations.

by Mekonsrock on Dec 29, 2025 3:35 AM EST reply actions  

I agree that people are sleeping on Head

and Alcantara a bit too here.

They’re both very nice lotto tickets. Head’s issues is that his floor is being a complete bust, all of his value is tied to his bat. The A’s might be trying him at 3b, but DH is a lot more likely. Best case scenario, he ends up being like Erubiel Durazo except without a delayed career (Durazo didn’t start until he was 29, which is a shame, the guy could rake).

Alcantara could be a mid rotation starter.

This was a good deal for both sides. Bailey is great, but comes with risk. The talent in return is good (though redundant for Boston) with risk as well.

by FDRNEWDEAL on Dec 29, 2025 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Bailey's Walk

Win for Boston to me. I don’t think Oakland was ‘fleeced’ outright necessarily, but I think that salary concerns were a big part of this as both Andrew Bailey & Ryan Sweeney would have likely seen arbitration raises & the A’s effectively just shed a not inconsequential amount of monies considering the fact that their expected revenues/attendance #s next year should be positively dreadful.

by Matt0330 on Dec 29, 2025 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

Wonder

if they will try and take all this free’d up money and sign Solar now.

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 29, 2025 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

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