True or False: Chris Carter, Oakland Athletics
True or False: Chris Carter's very slow start for the Oakland Athletics indicates that there is strong probability that he won't hit major league pitching sufficiently to hold a job long-term.
Discuss what you see in him. My thoughts below the fold, but decide for yourself before reading my idea.
My own thoughts are that the sample is too small to panic, but he clearly needs some adjustment time. I've seen him play enough that I think he can make these adjustments. Doesn't mean he will, but I think it's very possible.
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sure its a small sample
but the chances of a .250 hitter going 0 for 29 in the first 29 at bats of his career are on the order of .02%. A more reasonable assumption is that his “real” ability level is considerably below .250 at the moment. I wouldn’t predict his career off of what he has done so far, but unless something changes in a big hurry, it would be reasonable to conclude that he needs at least another half season in AAA.
by Dalman on Sep 18, 2025 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
That's not true
I’m sure we can find 0/29 streaks in lots of hitters’ careers
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by OldProspects on Sep 19, 2025 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Robin Ventura, for example
went 0/41 in his rookie year, and finished his career with a .267 BA and 294 HRs. I’m not a big Chris Carter fan, but those numbers seem feasible
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by OldProspects on Sep 19, 2025 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
it's absolutely true
that a 25% chance has only a .02% chance of not happening 29 times in a row, but that is from any given point—in this case the first 29 at bats of a player’s career. And, measuring from the beginning of a career, that is why this is so very rare a feat as i note below.
Obviously, some players have at bats spanning many thousands of at bats so there are many different opportunities.iterations for unlikely things to happen if you look at their entire career. Even so, my search on baseball-reference.com finds that there have only been 17 streaks of 29 or more hitless at bats by non-pitchers over the past 30 years, so this only happens on the order of once every other year or so.
Yes, Robin Ventura was one of these guys and is very near the top of the list for the worst hitless streak of all time, and yes he had a very good career. And so could Carter. But I think it is notable that the others at the top of the list of the longest hitless streaks over the past 30 years didn’t fare quite as well:
Dan Howitt lifetime .194, streak season 188
Andy Fox lifetime .239 streak season 091
Phil Stephenson lifetime .201 streak season 155
Len Matuszek lifetime .234 strike season 077
Mick Kelleher llfetime 213 streak season 160
Gerald Williams is the next half-way decent hitter on the list with a lifetime .255, but even he accomplished the dubious feat at age 34 thorough 26 in snippets of three seasons in which he hit a combined 52 for 300 for a 173 batting average. With Robin Ventura standing out, I admit, as a notable exception, this is not a list you want to find yourself on..
by Dalman on Sep 20, 2025 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sort of in between on this one
Its not just the initial struggles, but the combination of the scouting reports saying he had holes in his swing that would be exploited by major league pitching along with the 40% K rate in his 27 AB so far. I’m not to the point where I’m going to write him off or anything, but I’m even more convinced now that contact is going to be a huge problem for him at the ML level going forward.
by nixa37 on Sep 18, 2025 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
Didn't realize they'd already played today
Make that a 45% K rate
by nixa37 on Sep 18, 2025 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
This just kind of confirmed what a lot of scouts had already said. So far he’s always made the proper adjustments, but we’ll see if he can do it at the major league level. At this point I’d probably rather have Daric Barton, for whatever that’s worth.
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by Satchel Price on Sep 18, 2025 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't a lot of people?
7th best 1B this year, and even if you assume he is playing over his head defensively he probably isn’t worse than 10th-11th.
by Navi's_Navy on Sep 19, 2025 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not a great sign, obviously.
But Carter has always struggled somewhat right after a promotion. Here’s a look at his first 20-30 AB’s after other promotions.
2006 A: 4 for his first 30, a double, and 11 K’s. He was demoted to Rookie ball after that, where he did well, even from the beginning.
2007 A: Promoted to A (again) to start the year, and went 0 for his first 24. Then turned it on after that.
2008 A+: Promoted to A+, started out 5 for his first 30, no extra base hits and 10 K’s and struggled for a while after. Ended up mashing at Stockton, though.
2008 AA: Went 6 for his first 29 with 13 K’s, 2 doubles. Ended up being his best year of his career so far.
2008 AAA: Promoted towards the end of the season, went 9-30 with 3 HR’s, better K ratio but no walks. Best transition of his career.
I think that Carter just needs more time to adjust. At other stops in his career, he’s stalled immediately following a promotion like he is now. There are other possible factors weighing him down as well, such as the pressure of being in the bigs or the way the A’s have jerked him around.
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by travdog6 on Sep 18, 2025 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Sample size is too small, but that doesn’t mean that he wont still struggle to succeed. I just never bought him as a top/elite prospect…we will see.
by jfish26101 on Sep 18, 2025 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
+1
I am guessing A’s fans are beginning to like my Rob Deer comparison.
by King Billy Royal on Sep 18, 2025 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I sure did love Rob Deer. In an era of slap hitting turf runners, Rob was a mans man, a true lumberjack of a man.
Of course now we have hundreds of them in Baseball.
Carter is a step ahead of my favorite prospect
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by Shutdown on Sep 19, 2025 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He isn't going to get paid to hit .300
He is getting paid to hit the long ball. Give the kid some time.
by bezeerk on Sep 18, 2025 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
You gotta hit the ball to hit the long ball
Tough to hit many out when you strike out in 13 of your 30 PA. Dude looks like he may strikeout more than Mark Reynolds.
by nixa37 on Sep 18, 2025 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Pedro Alvarez and Mike Stanton K’d a lot (and continue to do so) when they first came up. They’ve obviously acclimated a little bit to the majors (more so for Stanton, obviously), so all that’s really needed is some patience and some ABs. Heyward went through a rough phase with K’s as well, which may have been because of the wrist injury, but still. Young players strike out - it happens and, in most cases, it’s expected.
I don’t think the K’s are all that surprising, and I don’t think he’ll continue on this pace for the rest of his career. The thing that is surprising is just the fact that he doesn’t even have a hit. That’s my biggest worry. It’s gotta be killing his confidence, but the fact that the A’s aren’t giving up has to help a little bit. It’s too small of a sample right now to come to any kind of conclusion on what the future holds, but that doesn’t mean there can’t be worries either. It’s discouraging, but it isn’t the end of the world…yet.
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by koolkerns101 on Sep 18, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
probably small sample size
you could have a similar poll about Josh Bell, those results might be different though.
by cjatud2012 on Sep 18, 2025 6:45 PM EDT reply actions
Like people have all ready said
sample size is way too small, but it is obviously a little unnerving. I think the kid is a bit jittery starting out. Once he has time to get used to the higher level of competition, he always seems to make the necessary adjustments.
by asyouwish33 on Sep 18, 2025 7:00 PM EDT reply actions
How about "ridiculously small sample size".
Besides, not all rookies come out and dominate the game immediately. Carter was always going to have a rough time with his strikeout rate, but it’s just the beginning. Players either adjust or don’t.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Sep 18, 2025 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
I think he'll be fine
he is what he is. A guy with his skillset is likely to take a little while to adjust when he starts facing pitchers he’s never seen before, as travdog demonstrated above. I think given the PT next year, he could mash.
by PrincetonCubs on Sep 18, 2025 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah agreed.
He’s always been an absurdly streaky hitter too, so I think at some point next year he’ll go on an absolute tear
by smk1363 on Sep 19, 2025 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If you read the true or false, it is unreasonable to pick true.
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by JDSussman on Sep 18, 2025 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
Heh, yeah seriously.
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by lenscrafters on Sep 18, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure why you think that
People have always said he’d struggle to make at the major league level. Thus far he’s shown that those concerns were entirely warranted. The combination of the scouting reports and the slow start make it entirely reasonable to think there is a strong chance he won’t succeed. No one is saying there is no chance he can succeed or that he can’t still be somewhat useful.
by nixa37 on Sep 18, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, the question in the poll isn’t a good one in my opinion. If you read that question and both options, I think you have to select False. It’s just too small of a sample to say definitively that he will not find success at the MLB level based on the roughly 30 ABs he received. Now you can agree that he wont succeed (as I do) but I can’t use that sample as my evidence to support that claim. That is why I think you have to pick false.
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
The question isn't a definitive one, but one of probability
It also doesn’t ask us to base our opinion on the sample, instead asking if the sample is indicative of Carter struggling to hit major league pitching going forward.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
If you make it a habit of basing your evaluations of players off of their first 30 ABs, I may have to stop thinking so highly of your posts. I don’t mean that to be a dick but I would have never guessed you would make the case that someones very first 30 ABs show a strong indication (or any indication in either direction) of how their career will look at the end. Yes I believe he will struggle but there is no way I’m going to say the first 30 ABs are indicative of how his career will be (a slash line of .000/.033/.000, a BABIP of .000, a BB% of 3.3%, and a K% of 44.8%).
…and don’t say you aren’t saying his first 30 ABs are indicative of his career. If you are voting true then you think those 30 ABs are enough to write Carter off as a legitimate MLB player.
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not what I'm saying at all
I’m basing my evaluation off the first 30 AB and the scouting reports. I already thought that Carter was going to have serious issues with contact at the MLB level and that’s exactly what’s happening right now. Based on what we already knew, I thought Carter was going to have major issues. Now that I’m seeing this, I think its indicative of a strong probability that Carter will be nothing more than a RHH platoon player.
Apparently I read the question much differently than a lot of other people.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
The question says nothing about scouting reports. It is purely about the first 30 ABs of his MLB career. I too question his ability to be a productive MLB hitter but it has NOTHING to do with his first 30 ABs.
Are the first 30 ABs enough data to feel Carter will fail or not is basically how I view this question. I too dislike what the scouting reports say but there is no mention of the scouting reports in this discussion topic.
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't say we're basing the decision purely off his 30 AB either
You’re just reading the question differently than I am. Let me try rephrasing it in a way that makes my reading clear. Let’s say we’re looking at a coin instead of a player. Coming in, I already think the coin is biased to land on heads (say 70% of the time) because when I feel it, it just feels funny. Then you go out and flip it 9 times and 8 times it comes up heads. You then ask me if I think the sample indicates that the coin is biased. I can’t say definitively based on the statistical evidence, but since I already thought it was biased, I do think the small sample indicates that there is a strong probability its biased.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you are wrong.
True or False: Chris Carter’s very slow start for the Oakland Athletics indicates that there is strong probability that he won’t hit major league pitching sufficiently to hold a job long-term.
His slow start (first 30 ABs), no mention of anything else as evidence.
Even John’s response says the sample is too small.
My own thoughts are that the sample is too small to panic, but he clearly needs some adjustment time. I’ve seen him play enough that I think he can make these adjustments. Doesn’t mean he will, but I think it’s very possible.
“Too small to panic” so I’m assuming he voted false.
You can try to make this thread out to be anything you want to justify how you interpreted it, but you interpreted it wrong in my opinion (and the opinion of many people here). If you voted true then you think 30 ABs is enough of a sample size to make legitimate conclusions off of. If you don’t think that, you should have voted false.
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You realize John brought up his own scouting in his answer right?
I’ve explained why I answered true to the best of my abilities. As I said initially, I was on the fence, but after looking into it more I answered true. I don’t feel any worse about that answer after reading responses from people saying they read the question differently. I don’t think there was a specific “correct” reading and I don’t think John wanted there to be because it leads to less actual discussion.
At no point does the question say “based solely off his start” or even “based on his start.” It doesn’t ask if that start is proof of anything either. It simply asks if that start is indicative of something, and based off the knowledge I had before the start, I think it is. Stop arguing about a reading of the question. If you want to have a discussion, make it about the player himself and why you think he’ll turn it around. I think that is what John was going for, as opposed to everyone chiming in with, “I don’t know about his future but the sample size it too small.” We don’t learn anything from a discussion like that.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you read my posts? Why would I post why I think he will be successful when I don’t think he will be? The whole point is 30 ABs isn’t nearly enough to make any sort of conclusion but continue thinking whatever you want nixa37.
If all John wanted was a discussion on Carter, he should have posted something like:
Discussion Topic: Chris Carter
Who thinks Carter can still be a successful major league player? Why or why not?
My own thoughts are that the sample is too small to panic, but he clearly needs some adjustment time. I’ve seen him play enough that I think he can make these adjustments. Doesn’t mean he will, but I think it’s very possible.
That is simply not what he did but you are correct about one thing. We aren’t learning anything from this discussion. If you are learning anything from this discussion, it seems to be the wrong things to me.
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
On the flip side
If he only wanted this to be about the sample size and nothing else, he could have posted something like:
True or False: Chris Carter
True or False: Based on Chris Carter’s very slow start for the Oakland Athletics there is strong probability that he won’t hit major league pitching sufficiently to hold a job long-term.
My own thoughts are that the sample is too small to panic, but he clearly needs some adjustment time.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ironically, that is exactly what he said. :D
He added one sentence to the end of his post saying he feels he can make adjustments because he has seen him but that would appear to have nothing to do with his feeling on the poll (whether 30 ABs is enough to indicate future performance).
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not what he said at all
He didn’t say that we were basing our opinion on the sample. He asked if the sample indicated that Carter would struggle. The difference is one implies the decision is being made based on the sample, while the other asks if the sample is consistent with Carter failing. At least that’s how I read it.
I like how you are just ignoring that John brought scouting into the discussion. That tells me he thinks the discussion should be about more than just the numbers, but scouting as well. Guess we just disagree on that.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How did I ignore that? I said he added one sentence to the end saying he felt Carter could make adjustments because he has seen him. It had nothing to do with the question or the poll though which means it is fairly irrelevant to this particular branch of the discussion. It isn’t like he made scouting an important factor in the answer of the discussion.
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I take it to mean that he's more confident Carter will make adjustments because he's seen him do it in the past
If he didn’t feel confidently about him making the adjustments, than his answer may be entirely different.
Like I’ve said, I’m not interpreting his use of “indicate” the same way you are. You take it to mean that only the sample size makes us think he’ll fail. I take it to mean the sample is showing us why he will fail. I don’t think either is necessarily incorrect and I think its dumb to keep arguing about.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
...by the way
True: Carter’s slow start means there is a strong chance he won’t succeed
False; the sample size is just too small
That basically says based on his first 30 ABs.
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I look at the question itself instead of the poll options
I think they’re just a quick summary of each side. This is a worthless argument however, and I’m out to go watch some football at a buddy’s.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well enjoy watching football. When a the QB goes 0-1 or the RB gets 3 yards on his first carry, ask everyone in the room if that is enough indication that they will have a poor game. Feel free to add your feelings on the players but that doesn’t change the question. ;)
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Way to be a complete dick
We read the question differently. That doesn’t mean one of us is right and one of us is wrong. My reading is completely consistent with the meaning of the word indicate.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see how my post justifies a personal insult. If you think a 29 AB sample is enough to strongly indicate anything, I don’t see why a couple of plays wouldn’t be enough to do the same in the NFL. I’ll just drop it though…should have just left it with me making note of you feeling the sample was indicative of anything at all.
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You're trying to mock me by changing my argument
As I’ve made clear the entire time, I don’t think the question asks us to disregard everything but the small sample size. I think its perfectly reasonable to say the sample is indicative of the probability of Carter failing because he’s struggling for the exact reason the scouting reports said he would. You’re making a reductio ad absurdum argument with the football example, completely changing my argument to do so, and presenting it in a mocking manner. I consider that to be dickish behavior.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I read it completely different which I’m sure you can understand. Haha
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
calm down
Calm down guys. Chris Carter isn’t worth fighting over.
by John Sickels on Sep 20, 2025 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
However, Nick Franklin and Mike Trout are definitely worth fighting over. ;)
by King Billy Royal on Sep 20, 2025 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
The sad thing is it wasn't even about Carter
It was a long drawn out argument that basically came down to semantics. I wish I had bailed out earlier and I had really planned to before what I read as a mocking post by jfish. In retrospect I should have ignored it, but I can be a little hard headed sometimes.
by nixa37 on Sep 20, 2025 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I kinda read the question wrong
There’s no way such a small sample size can say what he will do over the course of his career. I voted “true” just because I think he was over rated to begin with… But after re-reading the Q, I should have voted “false”.
by OraNge DusTT on Sep 19, 2025 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
People have always said he’d struggle to make at the major league level. Thus far he’s shown that those concerns were entirely warranted. The combination of the scouting reports and the slow start make it entirely reasonable to think there is a strong chance he won’t succeed. No one is saying there is no chance he can succeed or that he can’t still be somewhat useful.
Yes. People have always said that. The true or false says, does his"very slow start…indicate that there is strong probability that he won’t hit major league pitching sufficiently to hold a job long-term. "
The sample makes no such indication, nor does it indicate a strong probability of such a result.
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by JDSussman on Sep 18, 2025 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Does it say something about ignoring the scouting reports?
It says " Carter’s slow start means there is a strong chance he won’t succeed." I don’t take that to mean based solely on his slow start we’re predicting he won’t succeed. I take it to mean does his slow start point to him not succeeding. I was a bit torn on it, but based on the scouting reports and the terrible start, I think he is going to have a huge problem making contact at this level. Given his lack of defensive value, I think there is a strong chance the contact problems keep him from ever being anything more than a RHH platoon player. Maybe you consider a COF RH platoon player a long-term job for him, but I don’t.
by nixa37 on Sep 18, 2025 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The question is about the slow start, I do not infer that it is, at all, asking about scouting.
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by JDSussman on Sep 18, 2025 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't say to ignore it either
Heck, it doesn’t even say to make the decision BASED on his start. It simply asks if the starts indicates a strong probability that he won’t hold down a long-term job. Even if you already thought he wouldn’t make it in the majors before the start, you’d still think the start indicates that he won’t make it, meaning you’d answer true.
If we were talking about a prospect that didn’t have questions about hitting for contact at the major league level, I would say the slow start wasn’t that much to worry about. Considering this is exactly what scouts were worried would happen at this level and the fact that I already had some reservations about him, the start indicates to me that he may very well have problems at this level.
Clearly we read this question very differently.
by nixa37 on Sep 18, 2025 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
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Then it isn’t the sample that is indicating, its the reports.
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by JDSussman on Sep 19, 2025 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
No the sample is indicating the same problem the reports did
Is the current sample a sign of there being a strong probability that Carter won’t make it? The italicized is a definition of indicate, and IMO the answer to that question is yes.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter how you slice up your argument.
Plain and simple, 29 at bats means next to nothing. There is not a single metric which is even close to being stable in that sample size. The first meaningful statistic to stabilize is contact rate, and that’s not until 100 plate appearances.
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by OremLK on Sep 19, 2025 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
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by OremLK on Sep 19, 2025 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
You're arguing from a purely statistical standpoint
But that’s not what I see the question asking. Its asking if the the sample we’re seeing right now indicates that Carter will struggle. Based in part on scouting reports, I think the sample is indicating that he will struggle. I don’t think he’ll be this bad going forward (that would be impossible obviously), but I do think contact will continue to be an issue and I don’t think he’ll ever be more than below average against RHP.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So make your argument based on the scouting reports.
Don’t use meaningless samples to support your point. You can’t draw any conclusions from 29 at bats, not even in support of prior evidence.
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by OremLK on Sep 19, 2025 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're suggesting we completely ignore relevant data?
That’s ridiculous. There’s a difference between not drawing conclusions based solely on a statistically insignificant sample size and completely ignoring it. Read my example above of a biased coin. Its perfectly reasonable to combine the knowledge you’ve gained from a statistically insignificant data sample with prior knowledge in order to make an educated guess. Its completely unreasonable to say all data should be ignored until its reached a statistically significant sample size.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he was suggesting ignore it. It is still an awful start but it still isn’t enough to be indicative of future performance one way or the other. :(
by jfish26101 on Sep 19, 2025 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He said not to use it in support of prior evidence
If I can’t use it to support prior evidence, then I have to ignore it, don’t I?
As I’ve made clear, I’m not using the sample to draw any conclusions from. I simply think the sample reinforces the conclusions I’ve already reached with respect to the probability of Carter failing as a full time major league starter.
by nixa37 on Sep 19, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, ignore it.
Until the sample size becomes large enough to actually draw a conclusion—any conclusion.
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by OremLK on Sep 20, 2025 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
To clarify
Yes, data can be useful before it reaches a statistically significant sample size. But not at extremes like this. It’s just too small of a sample size to hold any meaning whatsoever.
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by OremLK on Sep 20, 2025 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Once again, I'm not drawing a conclusion from the sample size
The sample size is simply an indication that the conclusion I already felt pretty strongly about may be right. I’m not basing any conclusions on the sample size. Its an indication, not a basis.
by nixa37 on Sep 20, 2025 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Very false....
but I do think he should be working out more than usual this offseason.
by SenorGato on Sep 19, 2025 1:54 AM EDT reply actions
Most players struggle when they first reach a new level
Especially the majors. There are adjustments to be made. I wouldn’t be worried.
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by OremLK on Sep 19, 2025 2:59 AM EDT reply actions
of course 29 at bats isn't very many...
but historically bad or good performances, even in what might otherwise be a fairly small sample can be meaningful when they are at extremes, which is why, for example, getting just six out of six numbers right in a lottery is so improbable and why many argued at the time, correctly I believe, that Clemens’ 20 strikeout performance early in his first full season was a very positive omen .
Carter’s performance is already into historic territory as his 29 at bats without a hit is tied for the fourth longest streak of hitless at bats to start a career in major league history going back to 1920, behind only Vic Harris, Lou Camilli and Randy Moore, and tied with Len Boehmer. Inc
If struggling when players reached a new level was something that happened to most players, then this would have happened a lot more than 3 or 4 times.
by Dalman on Sep 19, 2025 9:21 AM EDT reply actions
I honestly see Chris Carter
a .233-.255 with 30-40 HR potential and loads of walks and strikeouts type of hitter…basically Jack Cust.
he could be better than that, of course. and 30 ABs is never enough to judge a player by his value. many guys like that never get chances to play again (Roberto Petagine, anyone?)
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by feslenraster on Sep 19, 2025 9:48 AM EDT reply actions
Geez hasn't Pedro Alcarez been striking out a ton too?
And people had questions about his ability to make contact. He’s had waaay more ABs but nobody seems to be freaking out about him.
Obviously Alvarez was more highly regarded, but you get my point. John and travdog already basically covered the other points I was going to make. He always struggles when he first jumps to a new level (and this is the toughest jump to make), and he’s always been able to make adjustments.
Now if he’s still K’ing 45% of the time this time next year, then I’ll be worried. Somehow I doubt that, though.
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Sep 19, 2025 11:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Geez hasn't Pedro Alvarez been striking out a ton too?
And people had questions about his ability to make contact. He’s had waaay more ABs but nobody seems to be freaking out about him.
Obviously Alvarez was more highly regarded, but you get my point. John and travdog already basically covered the other points I was going to make. He always struggles when he first jumps to a new level (and this is the toughest jump to make), and he’s always been able to make adjustments.
Now if he’s still K’ing 45% of the time this time next year, then I’ll be worried. Somehow I doubt that, though.
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Sep 19, 2025 11:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Geez hasn't Pedro Alvarez been striking out a ton too?
And people had questions about his ability to make contact. He’s had waaay more ABs but nobody seems to be freaking out about him.
Obviously Alvarez was more highly regarded, but you get my point. John and travdog already basically covered the other points I was going to make. He always struggles when he first jumps to a new level (and this is the toughest jump to make), and he’s always been able to make adjustments.
Now if he’s still K’ing 45% of the time this time next year, then I’ll be worried. Somehow I doubt that, though.
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Sep 19, 2025 11:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Whoa
Don’t know what happened there.
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Sep 19, 2025 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Neither and both
I think the sample is too small to be definitive, but I also have my doubts that he’ll be that productive of a hitter.
by anjichpa on Sep 19, 2025 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
breakin news
chris carter gets a hit to rise his ba up to 0.029
by matthewmafa on Sep 21, 2025 12:52 AM EDT reply actions

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