Rookie Profile: John Ely
Rookie Profile: John Ely
One of the most successful rookies so far for 2010 is John Ely of the Los Angeles Dodgers. He's currently 3-2, 3.00 with a 32/6 K/BB in 39 major league innings, allowing 33 hits, with no homers allowed. He didn't show up on many pre-season prospect lists. Let's take a look.
John Ely was a very successful pitcher at the University of Miami-Ohio, winning 10 games as a freshman in 2005, going 8-2 in 2006, then capping his career with a 8-3, 2.89, 96/23 K/BB in 103 innings season in 2007. He was a third round pick that June on the strength of his 90-94 MPH fastball, sharp control, and excellent changeup. The White Sox sent him to Great Falls in the Pioneer League, where he went 6-1, 3.86 with a 56/14 K/BB in 56 innings, 56 hits allowed. I gave him a Grade C+, projecting him as a "number three starter, assuming good health and no loss in command."
Moved up to Winston-Salem in the Carolina League for '08, Ely went 10-12, 4.71 with a 134/46 K/BB in 145 innings, with 142 hits allowed. The ERA was ugly, but his component ratios were much better and he pitched more effectively than the ERA indicated; his FIP was 3.68. On the negative side, he gave up 18 homers, and his velocity declined from his college days, down to 88-92 MPH. Scouts also complained that his curveball lacked consistency. I gave him a Grade C in the 2009 book, saying that he looked like a number five starter or long reliever, but that improvement was possible if he sharpened the breaking ball.
Promoted to Double-A Birmingham in 2009, he went 14-2, 2.82 with a 125/50 K/BB in 156 innings, 140 hits allowed. His fastball slipped a bit again, down to 87-89 MPH. But the curveball was more effective, his changeup remained excellent, he threw strikes, and cut his home run rate in half. Scouts were unimpressed with the velocity drop, however, and also noticed mechanical flaws, leading to skepticism. The White Sox shipped him off to the Dodgers in the Juan Pierre trade. In the book this year, I wrote "although his weak velocity gives him little margin for error, he strikes me as a guy who, while he doesn't have a huge ceiling, is somewhat underrated and who can exceed expectations." I gave him a Grade C, but also noted "it is possible he could actually put up better numbers in the National League than in the PCL," given the difficult nature of the Albuquerque environment.
He began 2010 with Triple-A Albuquerque; winning two of his three starts with a 3.00 ERA and a 12/8 K/BB in 18 innings. As mentioned above, he's been excellent for the Dodgers so far after being promoted, granted the sample is small. His fastball is right at 88 MPH, as in the minors last year, but his changeup has been very good, and he's using his breaking balls (sliders, curves) effectively.
Ely's margin for error will never be great, but his command is outstanding, he knows how to pitch, and has been effective at every level of competition so far aside from some hiccups in ‘08. I mentioned above that he could have a better chance to succeed in Los Angeles than in Albuquerque due to the better pitching conditions. Indeed, a friendly home park and a major league defense are exactly what Ely needs to succeed. Although scouts will continue to be skeptical, and I don't expect him to boast the 3.00s ERAs constantly, I don't see any reason why he can't be a solid inning-eater with sharp control. Such pitchers can go on wild runs when everything is working, and I think Ely's chances for long-term success are better than those of Doug Fister.
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I thought this after his first couple of starts...
he seems similar to Kuroda… not overpower stuff, but one great breaking pitch(slider for Kuroda, changeup for Ely), great control, never seems fazed. He also doesnt give up many HRs, and doesnt walk or strikeout a ton of batters.
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Jun 1, 2025 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
ELY MANIA
I like him as a #3/4 pitcher. Im curious as to how he will fare when hitters see him more and get a better feel for his stuff. Tonight vs. Arizona for the 2nd time shall be interesting.
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 1, 2025 5:54 PM EDT reply actions
Shaun Marcum
They are almost the same pitchers… stuff wise…
RHP 88 mph fastballs great changeups solid low 70s curve and slider/cutters at 85 mph
by matthewmafa on Jun 1, 2025 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
As a sox fan
we’ve discussed him several times on SSS and could never really settle the debate on potential success for a rookie righty junkballer
however, from what I’ve read, it sounds like the NL is a perfect place for him to be a very solid end of the rotation starter
He should be suspended. That is a flat-out, absolute disgrace to the umpiring profession, what this guy has been doing. West doesn’t care. -Hawk
Because he’s a f—-ing a—hole, that’s what he is. - Ozzie
by blackoutsox on Jun 1, 2025 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
honestly, i think he could be a solid #3
Like I said, similar to what people thought of Kuroda when he came over. Kuroda has impressed more than that this year, but they have similar control and each rely on a mediocre FB, but great secondary pitches. The control of the changeup (which is simply an amazing pitch when watching it. Im watching the game right now, and I believe in the 6th inning, he threw a changeup that started at the belt and ended at the hitter’s shins. Even Vin Scully was raving…)and his ability to give you 6+ innings of very solid pitching alone gives him MOR potential, IMO
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Jun 2, 2025 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
kuroda fastball is not mediocre
he has a 92 mph fastball… with great sink..
by matthewmafa on Jun 2, 2025 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
is it really that fast?
haha, honestly, I thought it was more of a 88-90 MPH pitch that he had great control/sink with.
So he has a slightly worse FB but a better offspeed pitch(slider to change)?
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Jun 2, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
That's Miami University
Not University of Miami-Ohio…..ugh
"Dusty Baker is the best manager in the game....until the game actually starts."
— Doug Gottleib, ESPN radio, June 3, 2010.
by cesarhernandez on Jun 3, 2025 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
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