First Third Of Season Regrades
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:17 PM EDT
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The first two months of the season have gone by. Prospects have broken out, and others have busted. How do you guys feel about prospects this time of the season. We've done a few of these over the past two years, so let's do another. Suggest guys that are interesting, and see how other people rate them. This time I want more discussion on players. Please respond to the specific player with the grade, and rec the grade along with a +1 for grades you agree with. It would be a lot more organized if each player only received a grade once, with +1s AND recs indicating what you agree with.
And don't forget, start discussion on guys. I want to see this fanpost getting 500+ replies. At least.
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Mike Moustakas
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
A-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
I drink your milkshake! I drink it up! Well Mr. Plainview, Devin Mesoraco and I drank lots of milkshakes, and we will drink yours too!
by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a sucker for
power hitting, high ceiling, high draft pick 3B. It’s why I still love me some Alex Gordon (even if he’s a corner OF now)
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
Only his streakiness prevents me from giving him the full A. We’ll see how things look by year’s end.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
B+/A-
more A- than B+ thoug
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
by gore51 on Jun 3, 2025 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
but he could really cool off, and possibly drop to B+
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Drabek
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
A-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
I drink your milkshake! I drink it up! Well Mr. Plainview, Devin Mesoraco and I drank lots of milkshakes, and we will drink yours too!
by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
B+ Entering the season
What has he done to go down. Or what makes him not look good in your eyes?
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Walks and K-rate
I do love his improved groundball rate, but really the walks and k-rate prevent me from bumping him up any further. I could definitely see a ‘B+’, no shame in that.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair Response
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Jordan Pacheco
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
B-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyson Gillies
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
C+
Sadly.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
C+/C
Never liked him
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a big fan, either.
Seems like a great guy, though.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Never been a fan
http://bullpenbanter.com
by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Hard to judge him
He struggled, got injured, came back started to hit, then got re-injured.
by Southwest on Jun 4, 2025 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
B-
He’s been off the radar because of recent injuries, but he was getting rave reviews from scouts in spring training.
by legger06 on Jun 5, 2025 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Simon Castro
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:21 PM EDT reply actions
A-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Can’t imagine going higher than A-, could see him slipping down to B+. Pretty ERA and groundball rate, strikeouts could be higher.
by gogotabata on Jun 3, 2025 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
I drink your milkshake! I drink it up! Well Mr. Plainview, Devin Mesoraco and I drank lots of milkshakes, and we will drink yours too!
by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
though he’s not far from an A- in my book. Very impressive year.
http://bullpenbanter.com
by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, no.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll let other people flame you for your stupidity.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
honestly did I say something that offended you or what?
by Yankees10 on Jun 3, 2025 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe you're new
But do you not know how grades work? It’s prospect grades on John’s scale, not what you think their season has been.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh ok
Yeah, im pretty new here so I didnt know thats what you meant. But I have to say you didnt have to come off like that
by Yankees10 on Jun 3, 2025 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Gotta say I laughed at the “F” comment
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I didnt know how you guys did the grading. If you look at his stats this year he has been terrible
by Yankees10 on Jun 3, 2025 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably Not Anymore
He was a B entering the season to me. Probably fallen down to a C+. C+ is a solid prospect.
All these guys are PROSPECTS, so basically everyone will be a C or higher guy.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, C+ sounds good
Do you still think he has a chance to be the D-Backs future 1B.
by Yankees10 on Jun 3, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
My fault. It just seemed like a trolling answer. I didn’t think. Do you forgive me? <3
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If you need to figure out what grades mean
Check out John’s top 20 lists.
Just search Top 20 in the search, and check out some of the grades.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’ve looked those for a while, but usually just looked at the ranking and not so much the grade.
by Yankees10 on Jun 3, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Think that's the opposite of what John emphasizes
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
im pretty new, so I didnt really know
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I still don't fully understand what constitutes what letter grade.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Devin Mesoraco
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
B
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with B with potential for B+
Surely need to see some more AA plate appearances, but I think a ‘B’ is the right call as of right now. If he continues to mash AA pitching then maybe a B+ later, time will tell.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly my reasoning.
He’s not there yet. But he’s MUCH higher than he was at the beginning of the year.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
B-
wanna see more. this is his first success since HS.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Jun 3, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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Grab Some Pine, Meat
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by Gobroks on Jun 3, 2025 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
No question Mesoraco has made progress this year with the bat. However, for me he’s the definition of a “new toy” prospect that I tend to overrate. If I look up at the end of the season and Mesoraco puts up the same numbers at AA as A+ and the scouting reports match the numbers, then I see myself giving him a B/B+ rating.
by legger06 on Jun 5, 2025 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Adrian Salcedo
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
High End B, very close to B+
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 3, 2025 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
could not go more than B
Projectable strike-thrower, but seems a little overhyped.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
B for me
I really like this kid, but we need to see more than 3 or 4 starts before we go too crazy here.
http://bullpenbanter.com
by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
I think the increased velocity and awesome strikeout rate have moved him up significantly. He struggled to command the faster FB early in the year, but that seems to be coming around lately.
I pretty much agreed with John on the B-/B going into the season, but I think he has solidified a B+ grade at this point.
by nixa37 on Jun 3, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
He can hit A- status once he starts dealing in AAA, but for now B+ seems the perfect grade. True, love the increased velocity too for a LHP.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Double Standard??
Why should Minor have to replicate his AA dominance in AAA to earn an A- grade when virtually every other Top 75 pitching prospect would not warrant a “wait till AAA” caveat to the extent that they had dominated AA like Minor has?
His body of work at AA so far this year is far more relevant than what he did at college and his stuff has improved.
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by Wilbur Wood on Jun 4, 2025 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Personal preference
I usually don’t like giving out grades like A- unless Im completely confidant they can be a top 7 or 8 pitcher in the minors. With Minor his improvement is astounding, however I would just like to see if he carries the same strikeout punch to a higher level. I am not doubting he can. Maybe I should also say I save my A- and A grades for guys like Gallardo, Strasburg, Matusz, Kershaw, Price, etc. etc. B+ is a rock solid grade in my book.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
I kind of like him better than Castro. Completely shocked by what he’s shown.
by gogotabata on Jun 3, 2025 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
B+/A-
Is A- top 25…
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I think on my offseason list the A- and above grades went as far as 14 or 15, then you were into the B+ range. Minor’s looked great, like a totally different pitcher. I’d say B+ now but if he can hold the increased velocity all year…then it’s going to be hard to not make him an A-.
http://bullpenbanter.com
by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
+1...
I want to see if the added velocity is real.
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by beastball on Jun 4, 2025 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Minor is a faster riser than John Holmes.
by Rupert Pupkin on Jun 4, 2025 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Fat man is no more,
Bursting on through Heaven's Door
Come on in, says Bill
by Wilbur Wood on Jun 4, 2025 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Still a long way to go and so many things could change.
http://bullpenbanter.com
by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Risky still.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
B-/B
~.300/.350/450 line so far is pretty encouraging
by i r noobie on Jun 4, 2025 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah a very solid B-
but if he gets up to a “B” before end of season
the Twins could have an A- in Gibson a B+ in salcedo and a B in hendriks, but thats being optimistic
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd Put Money On A B+ For Salcedo
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
B-/B
Smokin’ Joe is one of my favorite prospects right now. I think he has a shot at B+ at the end of the year if all goes well. Love the size and the projectability on this guy.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
B- for now
could be a full B by the end of the year, not sure he’ll go much higher than that this year though.
http://bullpenbanter.com
by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh Thole
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
LOLz
chuckles
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Z
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
C
Maybe a C+ if you’re being generous I guess.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd give Thole a C+
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Pettyjohn
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
NP.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Casey Kelly
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
B+
Very young for AA and succeeding despite limited experience.
http://bullpenbanter.com
by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to say B+
but recent performances don’t have me too thrilled
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
BDNF
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
aka Nick Franklin
I’m gonna leap and say A-.
by gogotabata on Jun 3, 2025 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Daddy like, gogo
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you really give him an A- with his BB rate?
by oplaid on Jun 4, 2025 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
19 year-old SS in the MWL putting up monstrous power numbers.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
A- would be a huge leap, but this guy has some serious helium right now. Love the 2B/SS switching, that way any holes the Ms have in the middle infield in the future he can slot right in.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
A future infield of Ackley at 2B and Franklin at SS has to make the Mariners pretty darn excited.
by RogerDorn on Jun 3, 2025 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
the thought of that as a baseball fan
gave me a semi-…
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you saying the Jose Wilson/Chone Figgins combo isn't exciting Mariners fans?
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by thejd44 on Jun 4, 2025 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
What happened to Figgy!
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Don’t think his plate discipline is all that stellar, wonder how much power will be there at the highest levels.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That's fair.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
dude, he has the word 'dick' embedded in his name.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
lacks the ponytail needed
to succeed in pr0n
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
B
B is nothing to be ashamed of for a teenager in the Midwest League. I’d like to see his plate discipline at a higher level. At this rate he could be A- by the time he hits Double-A.
by whichthat on Jun 4, 2025 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
B
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
A
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
A- for me
so far 4 straight A’s really?
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
to me
everything about this kid screams star…just taking in this years numbers, he’s batting over .300 against lefties and just under 50% of his total hits have been for extra bases (12 doubles, 3 triples and 10 hr’s) decent bb/k ratio, and over a .390 obp…the last few years the only real question about him was if he would tap into that power potential and he sure has.
by miraclemets on Jun 4, 2025 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 5, 2025 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Mike Trout
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
+∞
Trout has shown some SERIOUS skills. When/if his power comes when he fills out, he’s going to be a beast.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 4, 2025 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
how many prospects get straight A’s? not going there yet.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Jun 3, 2025 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Even A- I usually save for the “special” performance guys. Straight A is like Stras, Heyward, J.Upton, etc. etc. … if Im not mistaken
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Yeah straight A seems like too much. A- seems right
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
yeah definitely only an A- for now
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't a straight 'A' like top 7 or so...
sounds a bit too aggressive even for the seamonster that is The Trout.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
A
This is the definition of a grade A prospect in Low A.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Re:
Do you have him on par with the J-Ups, Heywards, Wieters, Strasburgs, etc.? I generally think of the solid A guys being the best of the best — combinations of talent and production.
I like Trout but it doesn’t change the fact that he’s playing LF, 24 guys were drafted ahead of him last year, and, personally, I question how much the power will play at higher levels. He’s still an A- for me.
by Dfarth on Jun 4, 2025 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
trout
As far as combinations of tools and productions go, it doesn’t get much better than this. Trout is super toolsy and his production is staggering. It’s hard to believe that the guy is hitting .375 and his IsoP is still close to .200.
I think he’ll be able to play CF, sometimes it’s just easier to break in a guy through an easier to play position. As he approaches the majors, I’d be surprised if he doesn’t get some serious reps in CF.
The two guys that you could compare Trout to are Upton and Heyward, the outfielders. And Trout’s line beats both of them in Low A by a healthy margin. He profiles to be a true impact player. I’m not saying that he’ll be a grade A prospect at season’s end, but if the season ended today, he’d be a Grade A guy. Hell of a player, extremely hard to find anything wrong with him.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair Enough
I agree that the numbers look great but I just don’t think they are sustainable. I’m not a huge slave to BABIP but his current one (.431) is way way up there. And, much in the way that you are skeptical of Nick Franklin’s power as he moves up, I think that Trout’s XBHs will take a significant dive as he goes up the ladder. I wonder, how much his speed has to do with all those 2B and 3B? Put all of those things together and he’s definitely still a decent hitter — but he’s a guy who’s not quite an A for me.
That said, it looks like I was wrong and he has been playing some center (I was basing the LF thing off of MiLB’s listed position) so that obviously is a boost. If he stays in CF and maintains his current production, which I’m skeptical of, then he could definitely turn into an A prospect for me.
by Dfarth on Jun 4, 2025 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
more trout
Yeah, his BABIP is high, and yeah, it will come down. But then again, he’s hitting .373 with a 1.000+ OPS right now, and when guys hit for really high averages, you can expect some pretty gaudy BABIPs in any case.
His speed probably has something to do with the 3Bs, but there’s a reason why we look at XBHs as a total - the total tends to be less deceptive than the sum of its parts. Guys aren’t just going to typically let a guy take second on a hit . . .and he did, it would probably be on an error and not scored as such.
He was a B+ prospect last year (I had him at No. 52 I think) after wrecking rookie ball. The only real question on him was whether or not he’d hit for power. This year, moving to full season ball at age 18, he’s actually been even better, and has significantly improved his power production. Absolutely exceptional prospect.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
He's played CF the whole 2010 season and last season (only 4 games last year in RK level was he used as a LF/RF)
He grades out as a CF, and is not being thought of as a corner outfielder within the org. One of his weaknesses is a supposed average arm so his profile (speed, jump and instincts) actually work better as a CF. I really wouldn’t expect to see him play anywhere else, he is very much seen as the Angels CF of the future by people in the org (and is being used as such).
by TheQuestforMerlin on Jun 4, 2025 4:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Trout's line might be better
but Trout is in a NOTORIOUS hitters league. Upton and Heyward were in much better pitcher leagues.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 4, 2025 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
MWL is a pitchers league
same league as…uh…Upton.
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by doublestix on Jun 4, 2025 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Is this guy retarded.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Other people have addressed the league thing
So I’ll draw attention to something else. Trout’s line isn’t just better than what Heyward posted . . .his OPS is more than 100 points higher.
Tools are awesome, performance even better, appears to have no major weaknesses in his game, projects to be an All Star player in center field. And if your argument is that he can’t be an A because of his competition, think again . . .he would not be the first Low A player to get an A.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 6:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
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by laxtonto on Jun 4, 2025 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
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Wiliam Myers
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
B+
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Really like the bat, but no clue where he’s going to play. Don’t think he would rate all that highly in comparison to other B+ players.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree on the grade
Disagree on the comment. I think his bat is good enough to put him on par with most any B+ grade player out there.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
it's not good enough for me to put him too highly without knowing where he's going to play
And obviously with recent developments, it’s probably safe to say that it’s not going to be catcher.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Disagree
I think his bat is good enough to play pretty much anywhere.
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by gatling on Jun 5, 2025 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
real nice bat but i wonder how much defensive value he provides.
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by doublestix on Jun 3, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
He’s been exactly what I expected coming into the season. I hoped for a bit more to push him to a straight B+ but I don’t think he’s there yet
by i r noobie on Jun 4, 2025 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
B-
Getting way too much credit for repeating AA.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
but
he hit there last year too after a slow start so it’s not like he needed this extra year. Playing through an injury at the end of the year seemed to unjustly drop his stock as people thought he was over matched.
by hybrid on Jun 4, 2025 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not it
He wasn’t overmatched. He just sucked.
He might be an average LF/1B bat with below-average defense . . .that’s a B-.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 3:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He sucked? A .377 OBP and .204 iso constitutes sucking? No to mention he was injured part of the season.
by JP_Frost on Jun 4, 2025 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
He was playing part of last season with a broken leg, LOL.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
DH/1B type. He better destroy AA on his second go around
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by gore51 on Jun 3, 2025 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
Borderline, and I love him.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Love him. If he continues to keep the K’s down, watch out
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
+1 ... barely
I think I’d go with a B+, but I may have some bias. He is mired in the midst of a big slump right now. The bigger issue is, just how much playable power does he have? Thinking back to some pre-draft reports, one concern was that he occasionally slapped at balls and thus, his raw power didn’t necessarily translate. He’s shown the discipline and good glove, though, so I think, for now, I’d overlook the power issue, but it is becoming more concerning.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions
C+
like the progress but more needed.
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by doublestix on Jun 3, 2025 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
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by Gobroks on Jun 3, 2025 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Breakout is for real. could be top 50 by end of the year.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly how many players do you have in your top 50, anyways?
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
53
One is for the priest, one is for the criminal, and one is for Verlander who will always have a place in my heart.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
B
think John seriously underrated him. needs more command but 3 present plus pitches from left side.
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by doublestix on Jun 3, 2025 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
ehh
B
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+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Not overreacting to a slow start, usually takes some time to heat up
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Interesting guy. Big tools, ARL.
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C+
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
real nice stats but age and level hold back. for now.
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+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
C+
Repeating the league, and don’t think he has more than a mid-rotation ceiling anyways.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, Dee Brown gets a F
Dee Gordon gets a B
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+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
tough to grade
started out the year on fire (minus hr’s)…then got hurt…now hitting the ball with force again…i go B+
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
B+ as well
Those two weeks he played hurt really hurt his stats a lot. His swing produces a lot more power than I thought it would, and he’s just going to get stronger. I see .300 with 25 HR in him.
by RogerDorn on Jun 3, 2025 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm, very tough
Inclined to stick with B+ for the moment, but truth be told (and I’m accounting for injuries) I’m beginning to question just how good the bat is going to be. I don’t see him as an impact bat, more of a solid regular, but I think his glove might play him up into more.
We’ll have to see if he can put together a good run.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Chisenhall gets a B+
although he’s closer to “B” than A- IMO
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
David H
Is starting to grow on me. I used to be a little low on him, now I’m thinking of almost giving him a B+, but I’ll stick with B.
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B+
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+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He's close to that, though I'm probably more on the B/B+ fence right now
Plenty to like though
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Making my ranking of him look suhweeeet
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
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by Mets2k9 on Jun 4, 2025 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Still an A for me.
I’m pretty sure he has been playing hurt.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
fair
argument. I was never a super high guy on Jennings, so Ill go against the grain and say B+/A-
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
very true
some are freak ones. But as in basketball and football, I have found players who get hurt a lot, just have that kind of luck for some reason.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
*sigh*
Yankee, this one needs explaining. Assuming, top 7 are “A”
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
I think is what the community may say at this point. But personally, I like him as a fringe A-. maybe B+
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
Because of continued injury troubles
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
C-
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
C
Just not impressed.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Responses are pouring out of this thread like diarrhea.
We will be huggin’ 500 flat by tonight, playas.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
we are suckers for rankings
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Jun 3, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We are.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
1000.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta say
im a first timer with this and gotta say this shit is fun
by Yankees10 on Jun 3, 2025 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Lars Anderson
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
B
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
he’s proving that last year was a fluke.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 4, 2025 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
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Anthony Rizzo
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B+
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
probably B
But closer to B- than B+. I don’t totally buy his bat.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This
Is a low .800 OPS with 15-20 home runs maybe a little more all that valuable at 1st base?
by Southwest on Jun 4, 2025 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
.300 Average 25 Homers, Tons Of Walks.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about an average that high with all those strikeouts...
but he does have 25-30 home run potential and he’s a 20 year-old in AA who missed basically his entire first pro season because of cancer.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa, Spaceout
I was thinking of Anderson.
Take out the walks for Rizzo. More of a 50 walk 90 K guy. Overbay like I guess.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He is going to hit for much more power.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Rizzo better than Lars
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
C+
never been a huge fan.
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+1
Me either.
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
B-/C+
In his defense, nobody in that rotation (outside of Bell) is doing well and he still is pretty young. No idea why they moved him to AAA when he still had horrible control issues to start the year.
by ThomasG on Jun 3, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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Jose Iglesias
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B+
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 3, 2025 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 4, 2025 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
B
very young for AA and more than holding his own…on his way to a B+ imo
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
hit his 4th hr tonight, 10 triples, similar doubles, good speed and cutting down his k’s over his last 50-100ab’s.
glove a work in progress.
Dan Uggla, with better speed, seems like a decent comp.
by BryceHarper on Jun 3, 2025 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
B
If quality future D at 2B was in the equation, I’d go B+
by Kerm on Jun 4, 2025 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
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B
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
+1
Lack of walks is annoying (although expected), but otherwise, I’m not too concerned
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely no higher than this
I’m disappointed so far.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No walks, no power, no contact
D+
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh Bell
B
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
+1
Would like to see him drop the switch hitting.
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
B/B-
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Zach Britton
B+
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it cheating if I say B/B+?
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesse Beal
B-
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
A- ass
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Jessica Beal?
A- ;)
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
more like A+^sideways8
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
This.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
sir yes sir
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
C+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Solid B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Brett Anderson is the Truth. Brett Anderson is divine presence. Brett Anderson is eternal life. Brett Anderson is within you. Brett Anderson is here. Brett Anderson is Now.
by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
fringe B+
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
If that defense projects to be above average. His bat is very nice this season.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Always been a fan
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
We have to remember it’s only what, 80 at-bats?
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
+1...
much like my thoughts with Minor. I want to see if Singleton’s performance holds up, then I could see a B+ or even an A-….
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by beastball on Jun 4, 2025 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
its not just the stats, its also (and probably more importantly) the scouting reports…from Jayson Stark: “Had one scout tell me last week he’s the best 18-year-old hitter he’s seen since Manny Ramirez. And another said he’s the best minor-league player he’s seen, or will see, all year”…of the recent reports i’ve read on Singleton, thats pretty much par for the course…this guy is special
by milkmanmax on Jun 4, 2025 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
C+/B-
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
though I think there is potential to be close to a straight B by the end of the year.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Definately at least a B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
B
hasnt shown me anything yet to grade him higher…and should not be in anyones top 25 imo
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
But falling
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
B
but very solid for straight B
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Jacob Turner
A-
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
+1
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
But close.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
Love the combination of great stuff that translates into missed bats and tons of strikes.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
A lot of these grades are getting way too aggressive IMO. Do people realize that Hanson only got a B+ even after his insane AFL in 2008? An A- is one of the top 5-7 pitching prospects in baseball. Being good in low-A isn’t good enough to get you to that level IMO.
by nixa37 on Jun 3, 2025 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A- is aggressive
For sure, but I’m a believer. Great stuff, results. Throws strikes.
There’s an awful lot to like.
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
fwiw
I don’t give grades on players based on how good I think other players are. I don’t care if there’s one grade A- pitcher or ten in a particular year.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither do I
I just think people lose sight of how good an A- guy is supposed to be. Turner is a very good prospect, don’t get me wrong, but I need to see a lot more from a guy in low A ball to go that high. We have no idea if he can handle a full seasons workload, we have no idea how he’ll do in his second time through the league, and we don’t know how well his stuff carries late into games (hasn’t gone more than 5.1 yet). And while he’s been quite good, he certainly hasn’t been completely dominate. A solid B+, but I need to see him keep it up for at least the rest of this year with a promotion to high A before I raise that grade.
by nixa37 on Jun 3, 2025 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh FWIW
I’d take Teheran over him in a heartbeat right now and I wouldn’t give Teheran an A- either. Teheran is the same age, just as dominate, similar stuff, higher level, going deeper in games, and I still wouldn’t put him in the A- range yet.
by nixa37 on Jun 3, 2025 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Id agree with this.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
B/B-
Still not a total believer, but I’m getting more convinced.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Revere
fantasy Grade
B+ in roto
C+ in H2H
by Rupert Pupkin on Jun 4, 2025 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Revere still a "B"
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd almost take Revere over Hicks
at this exact moment….
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
for now. I’m not sure whether he ends up more like Justin Morneau or Daric Barton at this point.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Still not sold
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
see moose’s stats in Wilmington last year for comparison.
by BryceHarper on Jun 3, 2025 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Strong B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Hobgood
B-
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
B-/C+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
Velocity looks good, has definitely improved as a pitcher this year. Keep him in AAA the rest of the year, but I think he’s learned a lot.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
still not sold on his secondary offerings
i know he added the cutter, but i can see him struggling at the next level
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he needs work
But still . . .you can tell me that a guy can fluke by in AA, but for anybody doing this well in the PCL, he’s got to be doing some good things that are going to translate reasonably well to the major league level.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i hear ya but
like their are AAAA hitters, i believe their are AAAA pitchers…and something about him screams that to me right now…that loss in velocity hurts imo
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
His velocity has been looking good.
In any case, I tend to think that Bumgarner really can’t win. If he’s awesome, he’s fluky and won’t be able to maintain it. If he’s not, it’s his “real self” coming out. Everything that’s good is a lie. Everything that’s bad is the truth.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
ive seen reports of his velocity at sitting 89-91 topping at 93 or so…have you heard the same or different?
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds about right
That’s good velocity from the left side, though, and harder than he was throwing last year.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with you
it is good velocity from the left side, but because of the lack of secondary stuff, im just not sure he can maintain success at the highest level…that velocity isnt good enough to make up for mistakes…but i am rooting for the kid
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
though he’s not far from getting back to an A-.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
+1...
I’d like to see his K rate to go up before pushing him back into the A category.
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by beastball on Jun 4, 2025 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 5, 2025 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
picking it up as of late. Really like this guy’s arm.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
B
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaron Miller
I like him a lot but he’s still a B for me
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
B
There is potential for more, but not sure he gets there this year.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
C+
His stuff is no good, but he has command.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
C++
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
The potential is obviously higher, but he’s really struggled a ton.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
C+
Chance to explode though.
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 3, 2025 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Personal favorite, but he does everything that you can ask for.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Too early to go much higher I think, but the potential is there.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 4, 2025 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
B for the moment
Not too far from B+ considering his stuff has looked absolutely killer. Needs more strikes, especially against lefties. Might be B+ by end of the year if he comes back looking good.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
B-/C+
Not a fan.
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
He looks like he could be a decent starter, but that’s not too much from a 1B.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Im hoping he keeps the Ks under control, but even so, He should be an athletic first baseman with solid pop in his bat. Hes having a very nice season so far.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
I like his defense, he has more power than people thought, and he draws enough walks. Poor contact rates will prevent him from being a better than average first baseman (offensively) unless his power is even better than anybody guessed.
by OremLK on Jun 4, 2025 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
But could be an easy B/possible B+ by the end of the season.
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
B
But closer to B+ than to B-
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
His coaches say he’s sitting 89-90 MPH and I like his CB. A couple more MPH and he will be a solid B+. If he hasn’t gained velocity a year from now, he will be a C+.
by OremLK on Jun 4, 2025 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
C+
Has anybody actually looked at his numbers this year? H/IP over 1, a HR given up every 5 innings, lots of flyballs given up, 6.63 strikeouts per 9 innings. He might be in the Cal, but this is really underwhelming for a guy who has seen this league before, even if he wasn’t at full strength at the time.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
H/IP
No thank you.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Incomplete
All that matters to me this year is that he gets innings.
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
B
With the issues he’s had the last two years, the results are less important than a healthy year developmentally.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
can't really agree
Like, I’m happy to see that he’s actually pitching again, and maybe I can even buy that you’re not looking too hard at the results right now. But giving him a grade B is basically like saying that everything bad is getting thrown out the window, and that you’re giving him a total blank check for this year. For a guy who profiles as having No. 3 type upside?
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
potential for straight B if he continues what he’s doing all year
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Similar to Erlin
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Really like this kid.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Am beginning to agree
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
B+/A-
slow start, but the bat is very legit
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
he was an A- because he was constantly hitting the dickens out of the ball… now that we see his bat is human, he’s not upper-echelon to me… I don’t like his body either… ceiling is Edgar Martinez
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
really?
Edgar? I’d say he’s more Carlos Pena with average
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Isn't that Edgar Martinez?
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
I have no worries about his bat, but the fact that he won’t provide any defensive value brings him down.
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
I’m not going to be a slave to age-relative-to-league, and I’m trying not to be a Yankees homer, but he is still two years ahead of schedule and I don’t think last year was a mirage. If he hasn’t at least gotten his ISO up by the two-thirds mark, then maybe I’ll go to B+.
by whichthat on Jun 4, 2025 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
Love this guy. He is like the Mike Minor of hitters right now.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
as in
we say WTF?!?! and then they go out and do something like WTF?!?! back to us.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
jar
how would you rate his defense though? Just curious. I gave a bit of a bump b/c Im under the impression he was an above avg. defender behind the plate, I could be wrong though. If he ends up a .275-.280 15 HR type, he’d be pretty valuable.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 5, 2025 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Still a B
though it’s on the higher end of the scale
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
B/B-
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
C
I think it is safe to give someone a C when you thi nk they aren’t going to do anything except be a middling bullpen piece, at best
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
C+
Walks need to come down for him to be effective.
by legger06 on Jun 5, 2025 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
A slightly aggressive grade, but John really liked him, and now we are seeing why. Plays a premium position and has hit and hit and hit. Seems to have solid speed too.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Just needs to stay healthy
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Love love love Cumberland
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
And I thought I liked him.
B
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+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Still a B+ for me
20 years old in AA, walk rate has ticked up again this year.
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Has some power, has a good glove, just not a very good hitter.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
What would you give Vitters?
I think he’s at least a half grade below Dominguez
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Like his .770 OPS last year and his .725 OPS this year.
I understand that OPS isn’t the be-all-end-all, but a pretty swing to the naked eye does not equate to being a good hitter.
.138 IsoP and 9 walks in 48 games.
He is atrocious.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
*not atrocious, but certainly atrocious for a "top 100" prospect.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say he was refined
I said he can really hit. Will he need to improve upon his plate discipline to reach his offensive potential? Sure he will. But he’s a terrific hitter, and it’s got little to do with his swing. He gets praise for squaring up the ball nicely, driving the ball to all fields, making contact with pretty much anything in the zone.
I’m pretty confused by your comment about his “pretty swing”. I think I’m pretty strongly on record in saying that I see little relationship between how a player’s swing looks and how productive that player will be. You, on the other hand, seem to go out of your way to talk up the importance of the appearance of swing mechanics. I do not agree with this opinion, and trying to portray me as having such sentiments to give yourself something to argue against is unnecessary.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Personally
When I see Dominguez’s hitting record and skills as a player, I see Joe Crede - not too bad. A middle of the pack bat at 3b with a VERY solid glove
With Vitters I see perhaps, only perhaps, a tad more potential with the bat but, without the glove - a big difference for me.
I’d give Dominguez a B, and begrudgingly give Vitters a B as well- but I like Dominguez’s chances better
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
not sure I see Crede in Dominguez
Dominguez can’t really hit, but he’s got a decent eye at the plate. Crede actually had a ton of offensive potential, but held himself back with awful plate discipline.
Actually, Crede is a funny guy to bring up here . . .Dominguez has his glove but not his bat, while Vitters has definite similarities with the bat but not the glove.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
OK
Im not going to be able to convince you, Dominguez hit fine in the FSL, and is hitting fine this year as well- despite a low average
i will say this, Crede was worse in an easier league at age 19 and had a worse season than Dominguez at age 21 in AA.
Sure he developed as a hitter by the time he was 24 in AAA but, Dominguez is on that path as well.
I really think Dominguez and Vitters are similar hitting talents but, we’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
Not mad at you, just asking, but why do you want to say Vitters was so much better when he didnt hiot as well in the same league last year?
Not really sure what Fredrick was getting at with the “pretty swing” thing but, there isnt as much EVIDENCE that shows Vitters is better as a hitter so, maybe its just a subjective thing - wehich is okay too I guess.
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say he was better
I don’t think this is the first time you’ve thought I’ve said this when I didn’t. I think I made it perfectly clear that Dominguez is ahead of Vitters developmentally . . .you can tell, because Dominguez has generally succeeded at a level one year ahead of Vitters doing so.
Dominguez was better in the FSL in 2009 than Vitters was - I didn’t argue that, and based on my observation about their respective development paths, you can understand why I might even expect that. But Vitters in the FSL in 2010 was better than Dominguez in the FSL in 2009 . . .it’s just unfortunate that the Cubs decided to be the Cubs.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't see it
-He’s a worse defender than Dominguez
-He’s been playing a level lower at the same age and experience until his recent promotion to AA
-He has an awful walk rate
-He has similar (maybe a bit worse) power
His hit tool is really the only edge that he has.
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
okay
Yeah, Dominguez beats him with the glove. Don’t really care about the level thing . . .Vitters has been excellent when not pushed aggressively, Dominguez hasn’t been a “wow” hitter since 2008 (and even then only in Greensboro, an exceptionally hitter friendly park).
Simply put, I think one will hit, I don’t think the other one will. I haven’t seen anything out of Dominguez in a year and a half now that would make me think he’s going to hit. If I stretch it back further, he’s only really ever hit well as a pro in Greensboro. I think Vitters will be able to hit - maybe the Cubs will screw him up by pushing him too hard, but I definitely think he’s got the ability to be a much more effective offensive presence than Dominguez, even if he has to move a bit more slowly to realize that potential. That’s not necessarily a bad thing - ideally they all end up in the same place anyways.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Um, Kupe
Dominguez hit as well as Vitters in the same league and same age last season - like, quite a bit better. Even Josh going back to the FSL this season and perorming far better this year - he still wasn’t that much better than Domingues there last season.
Not saying you are wrong but, there really isn’rt any real EVIDENCE that Vitters is a substantially better hitter- neither has done anything at AA yet.
Id say to me it looks like 2 guys with the potential to be average bats at 3b in the big leagues and one has an outstanding glove and one doesn’t. Just my opinion.
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that was my point
Vitters is slightly behind Dominguez developmentally, due to plate discipline issues. I think he’s coming along reasonably well. Considering their ages, I’m still looking more with an eye towards what they can be rather than what they are - and Vitters has him beat there.
I’d say Vitters has the potential to be better than an average bat at 3B. I don’t think Dominguez will be more than average.
Basically,I tend to think Dominguez will ultimately end up within a pretty close range of expected outcomes. Vitters has a much wider range of outcomes, some of them better than Dominguez, some of them worse. Everything I’ve seen on Vitters tells me that he is a much better pure hitter than Dominguez, but Dominguez does have more skills for now.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd have to disagree
Again, Dominguez showed just as much with the bat as Vitters last season in the FSL, at the same age. The surerficial disadvantage was that he didn’t get to back there this year like Vitters did.
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No0t that I think, tjhat Domionguez’s bat is anything special but, there are some positives to his season at AA - he’s hitting for some power, taking some walks, and playing the hell out of 3b.
I don’t see how Vitters has any advantage when he hasn’t even been productive in AA yet.
I do see your point as Vitters has put the bat on the ball a bit better in his entirety as a minor leaguer but, I think you are selling Dominguez’s potential short and If he just reppeated the FSL this season he’d be having a HELL of a seasonthere and perceptions would be different.
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
not really
Unless the guy was clearly overmatched by his league or he is annihilating the league, I don’t really look upon repeating said league as a good thing.
That being said, just to be sure, I did run his line through the Minor League Splits calculator to see how he’d be hitting at Jupiter this year. Dominguez’ AA line converts to .251/.336/.449 . . .I don’t think we’d be THAT excited. I’m not saying that he can’t hit, or that he won’t improve . . .but I haven’t really seen anybody in a position to know who seems to think that he will.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Kinda . . .
Supports what I am saying - that he’s about as good of a hitting talent as Josh Vitters. Thats about exactly as well as Vitters hit before thier callup.
Im sure they have thier reasons but, teams are so goofy. It’d be nice if both these 20 year olds could just play a full season in the FSL and then we could just SEE who is better.
I know we go back and forth on ARL but, nearly EVERYONE who is a solid player at AA at age 20 improves - and they usiually become major leaguers - and especially if they are solid gloves at a good position. There really isnt any logical reason to think he WONT improve.
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
small difference
Vitters put up his OPS with a .291/.350/.445 line . . .again, Dominguez has better skills, but Vitters is clearly the better pure hitter. Scouting reports reflect that (I don’t think I’ve seen anybody yet grade Dominguez higher than a future 55 hitter, and for the most part it’s been 50s), and the numbers reflect that too.
Yeah, they both deserve more development time. I just think people are really ripping Vitters for no particularly good reason other than that it’s fashionable to rip on a guy who needs to walk more. He’s not even a free swinger type . . .his strikeout rate is very low, and he’s praised for not swinging at pitches outside the strike zone. Unfortunately, he just makes a lot of contact . . .lesser hitters would swing through and still be alive in the count, while Vitters might hit the ball right to a fielder. Working counts and taking strikes to wait for a better pitch is something Vitters needs to work on, but as far as having the goods that will make a guy money, he’s got nothing to worry about there.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
You wanna gear something CRAZY?
and Im sure you’ve suspected I may be crazy anyways, lol, thats ok.
Point is this: Id be willinmg to bet that if you put two similar players - say, age, production, positon and compare thier strikouts - the player with more strikouts will have a BETTER career.
I’m willing to do a study on it and truly believe it. I believe than more players fail because they dont make enough solid contact than because they K too much.
I could be wrong but, I sware I dont think so and i spend quite a bit of time looking at this stuff
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
B
oozes potential, could see a bump. Would like to see the plate discipline a little more at higher levels though.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
B-/C+
Needs to improve the plate discipline quite a bit.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
If he plays like he is right now (once he comes back from injury), he’s a B.
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by ravensfan3 on Jun 3, 2025 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Too old for A+, but gets a little credit for working on learning 2B and in his first year out of college. Really like him.
by mrkupe on Jun 3, 2025 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
I’m sticking B- for now until he hits at AA, but you’re certainly right about the transition to 2B… it’s working out very, very well so far. Pretty nice ceiling at that position.
by RogerDorn on Jun 3, 2025 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Right on the borderline
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Solid B. He seems to be on a path that has him as an above average MLB backstop. Probably hits for a nice average, maybe 15-20 HRs, and good defense.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Only 22 in AAA as a catcher, walk rate and ISO both up a bit this year. The only question for me is when he gets a chance and if it’s with another team.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
If a team wanted to move him off catcher, I think his bat would just explode. As is, I still think he’s going to be a very nice looking bat. He has come a really long way in going from slugger to a really well-rounded player.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
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C+
showing improvement indeed.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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+1
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
lots of differing opinions on Morrison. Will he hit for enough power? Will he be something more than Wally Joyner?
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 4, 2025 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
B+\A-
I’d like to see a prospect showdown or smackdown or whatever it is for Morrison vs Freddie Freeman. I see there was a discussion question in 2008 but I think it’s worth another look.
by i r noobie on Jun 4, 2025 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting
It makes for an interesting discussion because of Age Relative to League.Freeman is 20 in AAA and Morrison is 22. Morrison’s stats aren’t even that much better, and he’s been good.
My gut tells me they are similar players though - and both will be soid to good big league 1b
I’d probably give them both B+
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Hes got a while to figure it out
but he may profile best as a closer
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 3, 2025 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
disagree
he needs to refine his changeup and curve, and is a #1, possibly an ace. He is having trouble early on because the AA hitters arent chasing what the A ball hitters were, which is understandable. He needs more time in AA(and, honestly, the people who thought he’d dominate AA early on were hoping, not thinking), but his future is no doubt in the rotation…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Jun 4, 2025 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
that's, um, a little rosy right now
I don’t think the best way to describe his struggles is something to the effect of, “If they weren’t so good, he’d be fine!”
He has sucked this year, about as much as a guy could without contracting Steve Blass disease or being secretly injured. Let’s not mince words. We definitely shouldn’t be saying “No big deal, he’s a #1 starter in the making!” right now.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
wasnt trying to make excuses
but in a way, that is why he is struggling. The pitch that would strike guys out is being taken for a ball. He throws more pitches, which leads to more walks/possibility of hits. It is his job to adjust, and if he doesnt… well… it wont be good. But that is why he is struggling.
The #1 and possible ace talk is his potential. Do you think it has changed after two rough months at AA? I dont
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Jun 4, 2025 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
no, it hasn't changed
But I’d be lying if I said it didn’t damage my perception of his ability to come close to that potential. It’s been that bad.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, +1
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+1
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
B
and trending farther upward
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Jordan Lyles
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B
with the ability to get closer to a B+ by the end of the year
by miraclemets on Jun 3, 2025 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
B+/A-
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
people think he should be downgraded for pitching really well? so weird. he is a high end B+ guy, moving up from a mid/low B+ guy.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 4, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
nope
He wasn’t B+ before this year, and he’s not B+ now.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm pretty sure that you, sir, are the one who's is on the sillier side of the spectrum
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
you are downgrading him.
his grade was a B+. it doesn’t matter that you thought he was a B- before.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 4, 2025 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
the grade John gave him was a B+
the grade kupe gave him was B- or B, kupe trusts himself. not a downgrade
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah i guess i just think it is pointless
to reassert your original position, when the first 3rd of the season doesn’t obviously prove john wrong. we’ve already spent a ton of time debating where he was in the beginning of the year.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 4, 2025 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
so it's stupid to hold personal opinions?
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
not stupid
but at this point you are downgrading him. it is fine if you think this 3rd of a season justifies a true downgrade. i just think (hope maybe) that most people are changing players grades based on this 3rd of the season. if this 3rd of the season warrants a downgrade in your mind, fine. but re-hashing old debates is pointless. just find the old threads and comment there.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 4, 2025 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just explaining to you that I'm not downgrading him
I just wasn’t as high on him as you guys.
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by gore51 on Jun 5, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
whatever
Not everybody thought Lyles was awesome, which may be surprising and/or disappointing to you. I don’t think many if any have downgraded him. I haven’t, so I’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t act like I have - at this point you mostly come off as the sort who isn’t going to be happy unless we’re all calling him one of the top few pitching prospects in baseball, and while you’re not going to get that out of me, I think I’ve been fair enough in my evaluation process, and I’d appreciate it if nothing else, you acknowledged that much.
I was under the impression that the point of this thread was to put our own opinions in, based on our own preseason grades, not “what we think John would grade this guy” based on John’s grade. Sorry that the answers aren’t as pleasing to you as you would like them to be.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Will Inman
Do you think he’s the next Will Inman? Just asking because there is precedence there - exactly as great of numbers to this point but fell apart.
Nothing at to do with your ratings- Im fine with them- more of a discussion point. I like it better when somebody just says that somebody will FAIL, as long as the reasoning is sound. Because the better we get at this stuff that is what we are really talking about.
To be honest I have no real idea if Lyles will suceed in the show or not but, I cantt see anything statistically not to like - but I recognize ther is more to it than that.
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Too low for me
Solid power and good contact from a 20 year old in AAA with a good bit of projection left. I think you have to give him a B+
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
he's got a good bat
but he’s still a 1B, and unless your entire offensive game is flawless and has elite upside, it’s not enough to make you an elite prospect. You’ve also got to remember, a B is an extremely solid grade for a prospect, and the difference between B and B+ is very minimal.
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Who said he was an elite prospect?
I don’t consider a B+ to be at the elite level. Very good to be sure, but either a limited ceiling or a red flag or two. Freeman probably is a bit limited on upside because of his position, but he looks like a good bet to be a solid player at worst. I agree a B is an extremely solid grade, but I just think Freeman is more than a solid prospect.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
From what I understand a B+ prospect gets to an allstar game or two at his peak and I don’t see it with Freeman so I’ll stick to a B here.
Honestly I never understood why he gets the love he does. The only thing I really see going for him is his age relative to level. He had a nice run in Rome/Myrtle Beach with an inflated BABIP. He doesn’t walk all that much and while he doesn’t K much either, his AVG doesn’t look like it’ll carry him to a better than decent OBP for a 1B.
by i r noobie on Jun 4, 2025 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I love the lack of consistency here
Morrison is a B+/A-, but Freeman is a straight B? Freeman’s Rome/MB run was BABIP fueled (.352 and .338 respectively), but Morrison’s best season (.372 BABIP) wasn’t? You also don’t mention power, where the two are close currently, but Freeman projects to add more.
I can understand having Morrison over Freeman, but having a grade and a half separating them seems strange to me.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
Ots hard to jusge them because Freeman is in AAA when Morrosn was in A+ ball, age wise but, funny thing is that despite freeman getting pushed fastwer and playing at some tough places to hit- his raw numbers aren’t even much worse.
Id say they are both B+ and you could make an argument that Freeman is a bter talent.
by casejud on Jun 5, 2025 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
and very solid at that
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 5, 2025 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Jose Tabata
B-
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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 3, 2025 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
Being somewhere between 26 and 29 means that he has exhausted his prospect eligibility.
DQ
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
but them old man legs are churnin fast brotha!!!
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
W0w, that they are.
Already 21 thefts!
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
How can you give Tabata and Freeman the same grade?
That points to the B being too low for Freeman in my mind
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Because I think Tabata is a plus defender in the OF
Freeman is a 1B.
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
He's in a corner though, and Freeman could be a plus at 1B
Not a big difference and Freeman’s bat looks significantly better to me. Plus he’s at least a year younger and has a ton more projection than Tabata.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They're different players
Yes, Tabata will be in the corner, but he should be a plus defender. There’s a big difference between that and an average defensive first baseman. I like Freeman, but I don’t see him as an elite hitter and I need to see an elite bat to go higher than B for a first baseman.
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree to disagree I guess
I just see Freeman’s bat being much better than Tabata’s. Showing the contact and power Freeman is as the second youngest player in AAA (at least as of opening day) makes me think the bat will be very good with a high probability. Add in the physical projection and I don’t think a great/elite bat is out of the question. I just can’t see Tabata ever being more than a 2.5 WAR type of guy.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well let's see
Tabata:
Avg defender in CF, so let’s say he’s +7.5 in LF (negating the defensive adjustment): 0
150 games, so replacement is: 20
He needs to only be 5 runs above average offensively to get to 2.5 wins, so he’d have to hit something like: .290/.345/.390 with 20 steals to get there.
Freeman:
Avg defender at 1B: -12.5
150 games, replacement: 20
He needs to be 17.5 runs above average offensively, so something like: .280/.345/.460 to get to 2.5 wins.
I definitely stand behind giving both Bs
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said I disagree with you on those projections
I see Tabata being a neutral defender as an aggressive defensive ranking. I’d compare it to Freeman being above average at 1B, so something like a -10 defensive value. In essence I see Tabata being about 1 win better with the glove.
As for the bats, I think you’re being more aggressive with Tabata’s line than you are with Freeman’s. I see Freeman posting either the same or a better average than Tabata due to better contact rates and more power. I also see him posting a significantly better ISO than what you’re projecting. He’s got a higher ISO than that as a 20 year old in AAA, and he projects to add quite a bit of power with his huge frame. Tabata on the other hand is already close to maxing out his frame. Honestly, I think Freeman has a slightly higher floor with a significantly higher ceiling. I just don’t think the two are that close at all.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
"I see Tabata being a neutral defender as an aggressive defensive ranking."
You mean neutral defender in CF which means he will likely be an above average defender in left. So defensively he is MUCH better than Freeman. Freeman’s bat may be better, but not better enough to make up for the difference in defence.
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by joegonzo on Jun 4, 2025 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not what I mean at all
I mean I think he’d be around a -2.5 in CF or a +7.5 in LF/RF, making him a neutral defender overall. Like I said, I see Tabata being about a win better in defensive value, but I see Freeman destroying him with the bat. I see Tabata as a .700 to .750 OPS guy, while I see Freeman as an .825 to .900 OPS guy.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
B
with potential to hit B+ very very soon. If reports are right and he occasionally is touching high 90s with the FB with his control, only health would be a concern. He’s probably ready for AAA too at this point.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If that high-90s report is accurate, then
A- (he has bona fide plus-plus command).
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
indeed
If you can effectively locate a 97-98 MPH heater and have any type of movement you have a lot going for ya.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
better
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Pineda
When do you think he gets the call for AAA?
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 5, 2025 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
its pretty clear throughout this entire thread you dont know what you are talking about
by Jimothy on Jun 4, 2025 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
although you are new and Jimothy's comment was somewhat of a low blow
you aren’t making any friends from your personal attack replies.
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What personal attack reply?
Its pretty clear the only reason he made that comment is because I am a Yankee fan and he is a Red Sox fan? Because really, have I made any comments that have shown that I don’t know what I am talking about?
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
well, to answer you first ?
I didn’t think it was obvious at all, considering that Jimothy doesn’t seem to associate himself with any MLB team.
To answer your second question, I’m not going to really answer with a “yes” or “no,” but it would help if in your comments you might put something other than just a 2-5 word comment every once in a while. Like maybe putting in some evidence or opinions on why you think what you are saying is right, you know? I haven’t gone through your entire list of comments, but judging from the ones on this thread, and the ones on the Brett Gardner thread, it would really help if you added some substance to your comments, you know?
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
According to his profile hes a Red Sox fan
I was talking about this thread, which really doesnt require any more than 2-5 words. I mean come on your puting a players name and grading them, If you wanna criticize me for that, you might as well criticize everyone else who is doing it. And to be honest I am tired of the criticism i’ve been getting and the name calling. I’ve been called names and been told I dont know what I am taling about at least 5 times in the month or so I have been here. Even in this situation, I was told I didnt know what I was talking about without an explanation why, I responded without an attack and still get criticized. How come you didnt respond to his comment? Really all I want to do is just make comments without being called a name or told I dont know what I am talking about. Is that so hard to ask?
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Regarding the Brett Gardner comments and ones like that
I totally agree with you on those I should add more, but I shouldnt be called names for that?
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The reason I didn't respond to his is that yours was the last in the mini thread
and I usually just continue commenting there. I agree that in this thread, making a one word post is totally fine, but even so, it’s nice to mix in an explanation in like 1 in every 10 of your posts.
I’m not really calling you out or anything, and I’m sorry you’ve been told that you don’t know anything, but I don’t know what you’ve been called names for in other situations, so I can’t comment about that.
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
my opinion
this is to yankees10: judging by your posts the only thing you know about a prospect is this years stat-line and from there you rip-off other posters opinions and pass them off as your own. the fact that you are clearly biased towards yankee prospects doesnt help. if you start putting more substance into your posts it would help alot and earn you alot more respect.
by Jimothy on Jun 4, 2025 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
for example
why do you have teheran a B/B+. I have him as an A/A- due to his combination of stuff, command, and age that almost nobody can match.
by Jimothy on Jun 4, 2025 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
This is his first real dominant year
by the end of the year he should have an A-
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
How exactly am I ripping off other posters opinions? I am the first to grade them some of the time. And where you are getting this bias toward Yankees prospects? Based on what? I gave Montero an A-, most people also did. McAllister a B, some gave him a B+, biased? I gave Romine a B, some gave him a B+. How exactly a I showing biased
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i cant believe
i am actually sticking up for a yankee fan, but there are some people who are very quick to attack others based on what they do or do not know, or what they percieve that person to know…nobody is forced to respond to any post, so nobody should be critical of others knowledge. If you dont feel like responding to a poster because you dont feel they are knowledgable enough, dont respond…but i dont think it is necessary to attack someone and tell them “it is pretty clear you dont know what you are talking about”…Everyone was a new to this site at some point.
by miraclemets on Jun 4, 2025 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody should be critical of each others knowledge?
i see what you are trying to do and it is admirable but isnt that the point of this kind of stuff. if people are clearly wrong shouldnt we be allowed to correct them? sure what i said was harsh but i think ive proved my point. adding substance to your posts will make your opinion have more value. thats it.
by Jimothy on Jun 4, 2025 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is I proved
to you im not wrong and that im not biased for Yankee prospects and I do know what I am talking about. You clearly attacked me just because you are a Red Sox fan and I am a Yankee fan, sorry but thats the truth.
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
there is a difference
between “correcting” him and attacking him…you didnt correct him, you kinda attacked him…constructive criticism is one thing, critisizing is another…your not the first on here to do it, and you wont be the last, but it really isnt needed
by miraclemets on Jun 4, 2025 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
this attack on yankees10
is bs!
my guess is that if he weren’t a yankee fan nothing would’ve been said.
i haven’t posted on this site for awhile mainly because i’m way too busy but another reason is the personal attacks. disagreements are fine but piling on isn’t cool.
let him post what he wants and how he wants it so long as it’s not offensive.
that’s my 2 cents!
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by the pinstripes on Jun 4, 2025 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
+1...
Given this is a mid-season ranking, I think some trend should be noted. So as with Minor and Scheppers and Singleton, if Teheran continues to perform the way he has so far, then he’ll end the year as an A. As it is, he’s a B+ to me.
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by beastball on Jun 4, 2025 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
A
anyone who posts a “B” doesn’t know wtf they’re talking about.
by daveh33 on Jun 3, 2025 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone that calls somebody a dipshit
has no class whatsoever
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
my bad
was it you?
That thread was incredibly frustrating to me
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
not sure when John deleted it. but I got a “warning” if that makes you feel any better.
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
what was the thread about again?
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
oh right
I’m a bit sick of those threads, it’s like comparing chocolate to vanilla ice cream, they are both great and arguing over the two are pointless. I’m not a huge fan about arguing over who will be better out of the elite of the elite prospects
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't like them, either.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
glad I've got a posse on this one
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Neither do I
But it’s just because I want to fit in and maybe have friends :(
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
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by Mets2k9 on Jun 4, 2025 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
do you need a hug?
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah I'm playin'
I’ve got like, 5,000 Myspace friends, so s’all good
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
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by Mets2k9 on Jun 4, 2025 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
dayum playa
you’re almost as popular as Tom!!
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Almost!!!
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
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by Mets2k9 on Jun 4, 2025 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
but its no big deal, I was pissed at the time but its all good now, I only brought it up because I thought you were taking another swipe at me by saying “anyone who posts a "B" doesn’t know wtf they’re talking about”, but its cool. I got a warning also, cuz I said a few words I shouldnt have in response.
by Yankees10 on Jun 4, 2025 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
ah
no, i wasn’t taking another swipe at you… obviously, as I didn’t remember who it was… and really, it wasn’t only you in that thread… i was Z-buttoning through new responses and people were being thicker than upside-down milkshakes in that thread, and you were the last in line so you got hit. and I didn’t see your responses either. next time I got on was just the warning
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
class is something
that people who don’t know wtf they are talking about throw around when they don’t know wtf they’re talking about to make those who know wtf they’re talking about feel guilty about knowing wtf they talk about.
someone insinuating that people who call them out have no class is a bit, well, childish.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 4, 2025 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yankees10 hasn't done anything wrong.
Lay off his dick.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I've got your back, son, even though you're a Yankees fan.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
unreal
I heard Tim Lincecum will win 1 Cy Young & 11 Tim Lincecums. Question is, how many Cole Hamels will he win?
by the pinstripes on Jun 4, 2025 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It's close for me, but I'm going A-
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
B+/A-
Usually like only handing out As to higher level guys, but Teheran has some sick projectability. I think hes a B+ now, with the potential to be a A- mayyybe even A prospect down the line.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 3, 2025 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
Probably still a year or more away from earning a true A, but he could definitely get there.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
And I think you can copy/paste that response for Randall Delgado
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A-
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Teheran
is an A- for me, a very good one…
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd still go with a B
He’s really cut out the walks as of late, but the GO/AO ratio scares me and the strikeout rate isn’t that great.
by nixa37 on Jun 3, 2025 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
The GB rate isn’t ideal but a K/9 over 8 and a K/BB over 6 is awfully damn good.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
B
He really needs to start showing his bat is truly legit. If his defense is questionable, then a .212 AVG is not going to do it. His ISOp is still very nice, so he is hitting the ball hard, but his BABIP is around .290-.295 not really that bad…..212 however, reeks.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
B-
but he could still end up reaching “B”
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
agreed.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
personal favorite.
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
word
his first month+ was “A” material… still an A- to me
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
I had him as a B+ coming into the year and he’s exceeded expectations.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Andrew Cashner
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
B+
Loved the dominance in AA, AAA was a bit too much SSS, but adding a 3rd above avg pitch (if the CU truly is), then having 2 plus pitches with a 3rd solid pitch, and a nice GB%, with versatility of being a pen or starter, is pretty sweet.
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Outside of SSS and the Cubs moving him to the pen, he’s done about everything that he could to answer questions from last year in regards to his ability to be a TOR starter.
Find consistency his slider? Check.
Develop a 3rd pitch? Circle-change is, by most accounts, anywhere from average to good.
Carry his stuff deep into games? Check.
Show improved control? Check.
Show better “pitchability”? Check. He’s showing the ability to generate the quick outs to conserve energy.
Tbh, I look at some of the grades that folks are giving for other arms, and I don’t see why Cashner shouldn’t be rated higher than them, but I guess SSS is a fair enough concern due to his history and due to the Cubs shifting him to the pen.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Very good stuff, has been really strong in AA and is answering questions about his ability to stick in the rotation.
by JP_Frost on Jun 4, 2025 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
B
If he gets to AAA by the end of the year for some playoff baseball like I hope (as they’re not likely to get to the playoffs in Akron), and he has any success at all there… B+
by RogerDorn on Jun 4, 2025 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Maybe B-
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Strong B
If he gets the K rate back up to a decent level in AA, I can see a B+.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
he’s still a reliever.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Jun 4, 2025 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
B
According to Scott Servais from the Rangers, he will be moved to the rotation within the next couple weeks. They have been slowly stretching him out. First few outings of 2 ip, then the last few of 3 ip. I’m not sure who they will replace. Maybe Doug Mathis. I thought they would have him replace Omar Beltre, but they had him go 81 pitches over 6 ip his last outing.
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
+1...
I was thinking B until they get him up to 5+ innings, and we’ll see how his stuff holds up.
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by beastball on Jun 4, 2025 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Was thinking B, but he’s really struggled with walks in AAA and he’s a reliever
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
Looks like a premier closer who can come up as soon as the Rangers want him
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
B+/B
On the borderline here, let’s see how he does as a starter. That will push it one way or the other.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
still a solid B to me
with helium potential if he continues to hit for power and draw more BBs and cut down the SO% for the rest of the season
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
B
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
B-
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Fernando Martinez
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
C+
I sound like a broken record, but he has done nothing to come close to the hype.
Overrated.
JOSH THOLE > carlos santana
by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
B
kinda agree with Dewey, but he has shown some flashes…overall, unfortunatly, another over hyped NY prospect imo…and Im a Mets fan
by miraclemets on Jun 4, 2025 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeremy Hellickson
A-. Don’t know how much he’s raised his ceiling this year but he seems like he’d be a rotation mainstay for a playoff team.
by whichthat on Jun 4, 2025 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
+1
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
There isn’t much more you could ask from the guy.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
A
Best SP prospect as soon as Straz is in the Show.
JOSH THOLE > carlos santana
by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
no i don't think so
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
but he’s much closer to B+ than many many other A- prospects for me right now……
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
A-/B+
still don’t like his body and still think he’s over-rated
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
If that body is hitting my Pirates 30-35 HRs a year
I learn to love it
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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 4, 2025 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah there's nothing wrong with it.
but its not straight “A” grade / top 10 prospect material…
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Won’t stay at 3B long, less than stellar hit tool, tremendous power. Moustakas has surpassed him.
by gogotabata on Jun 4, 2025 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I love how people...
haven’t realized that Alvarez is not having the “will he stick at third” questions this yea.r He lost a lot of weight this summer and has been decent at third. He is not moving off for a good 5 years at least unless he lets himself go. His body right now is perfectly fine for third. His bat puts makes him better. He should easily be an A and a Top ten guy. More likely the lower half of the top ten though.
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by joegonzo on Jun 4, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
B+/A-
more B+ than A-, but I’m banking on him spending 0 time at 3B
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
i really like what he can do, but he does struggle against lefties and the potential position switch isnt far away…but the bat should play anywhere
by miraclemets on Jun 4, 2025 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions
P. Alvarez = M. Vaughn
which is a comp i see a lot. if so, Alvarez is NOT an A. He’ a B+
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 4, 2025 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
if Pedro is Mo Vaughn
he has to be an A. Mo ended up a fat joke, but he also won an MVP, made 3 all-star teams, and finished his career with a 293/383/523 line, good for a 132 OPS+ for his 12 season career. That’s got to be Alvarez’s ceiling.
by gogotabata on Jun 4, 2025 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
If you buy the Vaughn comp
and you think thats a B+, maybe you ought to go back and look at Vaughn’s career. Sure it declined sharply but he was one of the premier hitters in baseball right up until he left Boston.
Plus, he put a lot of strippers through Community College while he was here. So thats something.
by Guyute on Jun 4, 2025 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Just stop posting...
It’s the constant inane comments that I think are going to stop, but never do.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Thome
That’s the comp I remember most.
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by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Mo Vaughn is a terrible comp and is not his ceiling.
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by joegonzo on Jun 4, 2025 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
500 posts in just over 3 hours.
OMGIZZLES
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
chwit will cry tears of joy when he sees this
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
They will rival Dewey's when he saw his boi Thole get married to his true love, Adam Pettyjohn.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
1000.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Reymond Fuentes
speed demon… showing some power… doing well thus far. breakout candidate down the line
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
B-
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
B
Somewhere in the last 20 spots in the top 100 prospects for now.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
The tools must be very nice.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
think of it like this
WIth his glove and his wheels, Fuentes basically needs to have a major league OPS of about .750 to be a pretty dang useful player. He’s incredibly raw right now, with iffy plate discipline . . .and he’s pulling .725 or so at the moment. When this guy gets some real experience, the sky is the limit.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I would really love to know why on Earth his draft video was deleted.
There was a swing or two in there that was actually very impressive.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
wheels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1CXA3yMmJc
No wonder nobody can throw this guy out.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
hes 18/18 in stolen base attempts. his K rate is concerning but hes still young and has time to improve that. True 80 speed.
by Jimothy on Jun 4, 2025 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Brad Lincoln
B-/B
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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 4, 2025 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
solid B for me
I like him a lot. could be an “ace” in Pitt… [2/3 on a real team]
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
If Michael Bowden can get one, so can Lincoln
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
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by Mets2k9 on Jun 4, 2025 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
B
even as a Pirate fan I can’t give him the B+
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by joegonzo on Jun 4, 2025 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Still a B-
The drop in power is a bit concerning.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I’m not the biggest fan of his. Don’t think he’’l ever bring much with the bat, although the glove at 3rd should be strong.
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Chase D'Arnaud
C, if he didn’t get off to bad a start he is a solid B
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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 4, 2025 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
I don't think the evaluation of a guy should swing that wildly on two months
At his age/level, a C prospect is organizational filler with the upside of utility guy, while a B is a very solid major league starter. That’s a pretty huge difference.
He’s been truly awful, but would probably only knock him to C+ based on the current sample.
by mrkupe on Jun 4, 2025 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
B-
Bad start but I still like him long term
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Randall Delgado
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by hero66 on Jun 4, 2025 12:40 AM EDT reply actions
B+
strong B+, a lot closer to A- than straight B.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 4, 2025 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll stick with a straight B+
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
B with the ability to be B+ by end of year
by miraclemets on Jun 4, 2025 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't need to know that
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by WVPiratesfan on Jun 4, 2025 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
A-/A
I’m still totally unsure about where/how much quality he provides defensively
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
this is all projectibility. NOT results. I have to say B.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 4, 2025 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Good thing
we don’t judge prospect strictly on their numbers then, huh?
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
"we don’t judge prospect strictly on their numbers then, huh?"
I agree, but tools aren’t worth s*** if he is not putting up numbers. He is a B for me if the season ended right now.
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by joegonzo on Jun 4, 2025 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
To that I'd say
go check his splits. You’re downgrading him for a horrible April, and nothing more. It also appears you’re not giving any credit to adjusting to a new position while playing his first year in the minors. Which is okay I guess, but something that seems pretty silly.
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by gatling on Jun 5, 2025 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
B+, I think
I still don’t know what a B+ equates to rankings-wise.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
this is roughly the spectrum to me
A = 1-8/10
A- = 9/10-22/24
B+ = 23/25-40
B = 40 - 80
B- = 80 - 150
by daveh33 on Jun 4, 2025 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Mine's close to that
drop A- to about 15-20 at most, B+ to 50 and B to 100, at least in an average year.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Strikes out WAY too much and is destined for 1B
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
He’s still a college pitcher in A ball
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Solid B
Love him.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
This
Need to see him healthy to really give him a grade.
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Put me down for I too, but I could also see dropping him a notch for general health worries.
by whichthat on Jun 4, 2025 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Starlin Castro
Not sure if we are including him, since he’s all but certain to lose his prospect status, but figured I’d put it in.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 7:03 AM EDT reply actions
A-.
How he plays out over time is a question of development, but from last year to this year, in regards to his minor league performance, he’s stepped up. His defense was cleaner in the minors. There’s some indications of gradual power development.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions
A-/A
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
B.
I want to go B+, but I can’t pull the trigger for now. Does have a solid 4 pitch offering. Change comes and goes at times, and the breaking pitches could both be more consistent. The K’s are down a bit, but he’s added much improved control, which should help his chances of sticking in the rotation. That said, sure feels like he’s unlikely to reach the ceiling of being a number 2 type. Who knows. When he’s on, he can look great.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
C-
He won’t stay healthy with that delivery.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone's had too much Project Prospect
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I have not read once on PP of anyone criticizing Jackson's delivery.
It’s always been me.
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
B-.
I’m going B- on this one, which will probably continue the chants from some Cubs fans of me somehow hating on Lee. I have high hopes for him, but we’re talking a fringy bat. He had a hot streak in MWL, so there’s enough there. The defense needs to be cleaned up, although on the positive side, there’s really no big issue, as the arm strength looks solid. He’s far away, needs work. Ceiling’s high. Keeping him at a B would also make sense for me.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting - I'd stick with a B
The bat doesn’t seem so fringy to me - his power might be inching up, which makes sense in conjunction with the scouting reports. He’s still walking at a nice rate, and his Ks are dipping a bit, and he is stealing a lot of bases.
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
His bat hasn’t been that impressive in the MWL. There’s hope, but he hasn’t shown enough as a hitter to make me think he can be more than a slap hitter with a decent walk rate.
by Outshined_One on Jun 4, 2025 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll go B
To me, his bat is all about his ability to get on base, which he seems able to do with his BB rate.
by philadelphiacub on Jun 4, 2025 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
B-.
The stuff is still good, but he had to rehab early and has been working his way back.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions
C+
He was injured (again) to start the season and he hasn’t been particularly noteworthy in AA so far. He can easily bounce back, but the early returns haven’t been so good.
by Outshined_One on Jun 4, 2025 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
B-.
I’m jumping him all the way up to a B-. The ceiling’s huge. Big fastball in the mid-90’s, power curve (or some say slider, but most reports suggest curve) that can flash plus ability at times. Needs to improve his 3rd pitch and get better control, but so far so good. If he finishes strong, I could even see a case for a B.
by toonsterwu on Jun 4, 2025 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
C+
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Bryan Morris
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by TFelsmaier on Jun 4, 2025 9:28 AM EDT reply actions
B+
Aggressive, but I think he is the frontline starter that the Pirates desperately need.
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by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Best pitcher in the system. the guy has really good stuff and is finally tearing hitters apart.
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by joegonzo on Jun 4, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
B-/B
His stuff wasn’t ever really an issue, it was his health. He’s been healthy this year and would be a B without the history.
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Solid B
Could be a B+ after the season, if he continues to dominate, and gets promoted to AAA. He has been lights out so far, and I hope the injuries are all in the past.
by H2O on Jun 4, 2025 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Martin Perez
B
Struggling in AA this year, but still very young. He is being skipped this time through the rotation to work on some stuff. We’ll see how he does when he comes back.
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 9:35 AM EDT reply actions
B+
I’d give him a full year before docking him any more . . .
by gogotabata on Jun 4, 2025 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he will be fine
We got spoiled watching Feliz skip High A and dominate and Holland move quickly through High A and on to AA and continue to dominate
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Feliz
I looked at Feliz’s numbers at AAA the other day and almost wish they would have left him there to continue working as a starter instead of bringing him up to work in the bullpen. He was still pitching well at AAA having just turned 21. I don’t think they will give him another chance to start.
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
A-
He’s 19 and he has a 3.97 FIP in AA and this is considered an off-year. That’s all I have to say
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
The poor guys been the youngest guy in his league for 3 straight years now. Still A-/B+ for me.
by Kerm on Jun 4, 2025 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
His numbers were good through 6 starts, so I’m not going to let 4 poor starts change my view of him at this point.
by ajake57 on Jun 4, 2025 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
B+/A-
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
B
I thought he was gonna be a reliever in the past, and so far he is validating my opinion.
JOSH THOLE > carlos santana
by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
B++
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Robbie Ross
C+
Dominating Low A. 2.5:1 GO:FO, sub 2 era, but just over 6k/9. Plus, despite being a high school pick, he turns 21 later this month.
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 9:38 AM EDT reply actions
B-/B
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
B
not put off by bad start. been quite good lately, K/BB over 3 since his first few terrible starts.
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by doublestix on Jun 4, 2025 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
B-/C+
A platoon player doesn’t do it for me. Alonso can’t hit LHP.
by RogerDorn on Jun 4, 2025 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
B-
Never been much of a fan
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
Love the K/BB numbers, but the power isn’t too impressive yet. I want to see more
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
see above
Hosmer’s already there
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Zach McAllister
A-
I love this guy. He just seems like a surefire #3
by jepmotors on Jun 4, 2025 10:12 AM EDT reply actions
Not even close to an A-
Honestly I don’t know how you can say that with a straight face. The stuff isn’t that good, the numbers aren’t that impressive, and he’s stopped generating a lot of ground balls. John gave him a B- before the season, saying that he could be a 5th starter or long reliever. Maybe you could make a case for a straight B right now, but that’s about it in my mind
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
You didn't even give him an A- earlier in this thread
Did he do something to raise his grade in between posts?
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
Certainly not an ace, but a solid pitcher who is close.
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I like him but
I don’t see how a #3 starter is an A-
by i r noobie on Jun 4, 2025 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Total brain fart. Definitely meant to give an A- earlier
You don’t have to agree with me. I like him. he has been solid and consistent at every level he has played.
by jepmotors on Jun 4, 2025 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
if every prospect who was solid and consistent at every level
got an A-, there’d be about a hundred A- prospects out there
by gogotabata on Jun 4, 2025 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
A- players aren't just solid and consistent
They’re supposed to be much better than that. To put the grade in perspective, Hanson didn’t even get an A- in 2008, and he was a far better prospect than McAllister could ever dream of being.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
B+
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
B/B+
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
B
but if his breaking ball is back he could be a B+ by year’s end
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
would love to know if his breaker is back, and the effectiveness of it
JOSH THOLE > carlos santana
by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Only has 3 starts
If you’re changing his grade already something is wrong
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I love the guy, and think he’s a top 12 or so prospect, but you’re right not enough to go on yet.
by Kerm on Jun 4, 2025 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with having him high if thats what you thought before the season
Just saying he shouldn’t be regraded off what we’ve seen this season.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
If the velo reports are correct/legit
on his fastball, than yeah, as high on him as I was pre-season, I’m even higher now. regardless of starts.
by Kerm on Jun 4, 2025 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Reports?
Can you give me some links? I haven’t really kept up with him as he started late, so I’d like to see what people are saying.
by nixa37 on Jun 4, 2025 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
From last night
#Rockies Matzek with multiple 94 MPH gun readings. Thought the lone reading might have been a misread, but it’s legit.
#Rockies Matzek jumps up to 92-94 MPH in the 3rd. Hardest FB I’ve seen from a lefty since starting STS.
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First start…
Matzek brought a heater that peaked at 98 miles per hour..
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by Kerm on Jun 4, 2025 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
But I’ve been bullish on Matzek for quite a while.
by jar75 on Jun 4, 2025 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
B
He has been great in AA this year at 21. He is getting more swinging strikes, but still only striking out 5.8/9. He has only walked 9 in 69 ip. Jason Parks did an evaluation on him saying that he currently would still project him as a #5 innings eater, or long relief. He said he will need to add an out pitch to project any higher. I think he will be more than that. He won’t beat himself since he never walks anyone. I think as he learns to pitch, he will continue to get better. Hopefully they get him up to AAA around the all-star break.
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
C+
innings eater but won’t be more than #4. that’s the ceiling for me.
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by doublestix on Jun 4, 2025 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
21 years old in AA, throwing a ton of innings, and getting results. Obviously the poor K rate holds him back, but he’s growing on me quickly.
by ajake57 on Jun 4, 2025 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
+1
though I’m not sure he gets much past this grade
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by gatling on Jun 4, 2025 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
love him still. any idea when he’s supposed to be back on the mound?
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by doublestix on Jun 4, 2025 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
he had TJ right?
isn’t the recovery time ~1 year?
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by gore51 on Jun 4, 2025 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He is back on the mound already, I believe
he has a blog and tweets: http://jarrodbparker.mlblogs.com/
Play ball!
by tmannino on Jun 4, 2025 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
until he gets back on the mound and shows what he has in the past...
B-
JOSH THOLE > carlos santana
by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
B- yeah i like him
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That is a tricky one
You are right, it is tough. He has electric stuff and it looks like they are trying to stretch him out as a starter, but it is such a small sample size. He also lost so many years of development being stuck in the Dominican Republic.
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
C+
C+ because of the age and small sample, but he could move up quickly if he is able to start.
by Tex2044 on Jun 4, 2025 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
C+. Wade LeBlanc ceiling, floor is somewhere in the asthenosphere.
by limozeen on Jun 4, 2025 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
B
At least a decent hitter with a lot of speed, which is a valuable thing at CF. If he can cut his Ks, or raise his BABIP, then he might be an impact player
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Just Don't Know...
I need more info here. I haven’t seen enough of him, but I’ve heard a lot of praise. Is the power going to continue on the next level? Is there pre-injury Grady Sizemore stats in this guy at all?
I’m clueless on him.
by RogerDorn on Jun 4, 2025 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Fantastic numbers, just need to see him do it outside the CAL.
JOSH THOLE > carlos santana
by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Really funny
I’m sorry, can I just say, that regrading prospects after 1/3 of a season is a fools errand. Not only are the sample sizes small but the questions we had about many of these guys aren’t answered this quickly. Other than the few breakout players (Montgomery, Trout, Tehran, Franklin etc.) most grades should really remain the same.
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by JDSussman on Jun 4, 2025 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
+1
Killjoy. Let us overreact!
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm Gonna Hunt You Down.
This is like, the totally biggest fanpost EVER.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Grade changes
I would say that, for the most part, the regrades have been fairly close to preseason grades aside from guys who are either breaking out in a big way like some that you mentioned or guys who are having a resurgence like Moustakas, etc
by i r noobie on Jun 4, 2025 3:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
definately a B-
as of right now
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
he could fall back down to a C+ though
but he could also sneak back up and be a really really solid B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Carlos Santana???
"God, I'm from Cleveland. When is it going to be our time?"
by BStal11 on Jun 4, 2025 2:36 PM EDT reply actions
A
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
B+
The concern has always been his bad defense and GM Shapiro confirmed it the other day.
Kid can hit, but has a lot to work on behind the plate.
JOSH THOLE > carlos santana
by Dewey Finn on Jun 4, 2025 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Will you stop?
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
Frederick0220
by Mets2k9 on Jun 4, 2025 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah how could you go B+ ???
he’s gotta be at least a strong A- , I’d go A
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
B
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Solid prospect, but hasn’t shown a ton yet, is a long way away, and doesn’t have exceptional upside.
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I see #3/#2 Upside.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I see more #3
Which is good - don’t get me wrong - but not THAT exceptional for a prospect who’s still a while away, and needs to figure out a lot of things before he makes the majors. In other words, though I like him, I think he’s quickly becoming so under-rated that he’s overrated
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Congratulations Casey, You Pulled a "Madison Bumgarner Gets Promoted" on us
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
Frederick0220
by Mets2k9 on Jun 4, 2025 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
I'm Just The Master Of The Threads
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by Frederick0220 on Jun 4, 2025 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilmer Flores
Dude’s a high B+ in my book, bordering on a-minus territory
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by Mets2k9 on Jun 4, 2025 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
On the B+
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah B+
but only going up
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
Repeating a level when you’re 18 and starting to kill it ain’t so bad. Very nice swing, projectable body. Just needs to keep his head.
by RogerDorn on Jun 4, 2025 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Gibson...
Is he on the list yet?
I’m thinking B+. Solid K rates, BB rates, really good GB rates 60-70%, around a 1 WHIP. The only question I have is ceiling. I’m not sure if he has the raw stuff to be a staff ace, but everything looks good.
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by beastball on Jun 4, 2025 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Definitely.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
A-
I love Gibson. I think he has a reasonably high ceiling and a darned good chance of reaching it. I’d only take Hellickson over him right now, maybe Teheran, but I’d lean towards the pitcher at a higher level.
(and no, I don’t like Bumgarner)
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by Jgaztambide on Jun 4, 2025 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Stras
Obviously add Stras to that list. Sometimes I just don’t even take him into account when I’m talking about prospects because I think of him as a major leaguer.
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by Jgaztambide on Jun 4, 2025 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A-, only concern for me at this point is health. I’d rather have him than any pitcher in the minors who isn’t Strasburg or Chapman.
by limozeen on Jun 4, 2025 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I really do like Gibson...
but do you like him better than guys like Martin Perez or Chapman or Teheran or Delgado, just to name a few?
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by beastball on Jun 4, 2025 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Teheran and Delgado are still a ways away. Perez looks really good below the surface ERA, but he’s still very young and has a long ways to go. Gibson is the total package: Stuff, control, feel for pitching, grounders, Ks, dominant results, fast track. If he didn’t have recent arm troubles, he’d be a straight A in my book. He is good.
by limozeen on Jun 4, 2025 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Gibson B+/ A-
still thinking about it….
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Drew Cumberland
May be working his way towards a B+. A short stop sporting an OPS over 1.000 in A+? I’ll take it. Only 21. Health has always been his biggest problem.
Lake Elsinore is good for hitters, it’ll be interesting to see how he responds to San Antonio.
by walnut falcons on Jun 4, 2025 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
Exactly.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by The Big Hurt on Jun 4, 2025 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by OldProspects on Jun 4, 2025 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Archer
John had him as a C in the offseason.
by Outshined_One on Jun 4, 2025 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
Low B
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
B
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
this is the second mention of Melville tho
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad
I guess I missed it in the plethora of replies.
Dope Boy Fresh
by Yeroc Keep on Jun 4, 2025 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
B
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
B
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hector Rondon ?
B- ? boy, has he fallen
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
B
22 years old and was pitching hurt. There’s still great stuff there, but he might end up as a closer. Then, that B- will be completely justified.
by RogerDorn on Jun 4, 2025 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
some Brad's, I'm thinking B-/C+
Bradley Boxberger
Bradey Holt
Brad Meyers
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
Boxberger > All Of Them
Boxberger - Solid B, top 100 guy.
Holt - B-
Meyers - C+
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Fabio Martinez Mesa
B-
if the Walk rate was down he’d be B+
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
I Gotta Say B
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
FMM gets a high B from me. You can’t teach stuff, and guys who throw like he does find a place on a major league team.
by limozeen on Jun 4, 2025 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson Ramos
B-
I want to say B, but he’s done nothing in AAA to warrant it…
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
B.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Adrian Cardenas
C+
the much controversial AC i might add, never liked him as much as others have
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 4, 2025 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
+1
Extremely boring player IMO. Ceiling is Callapso, which isn’t bad, but it’s nothing special.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So, we all agree that this is the largest fanpost ever to grace this site.
I should get a medal or something.
Fred and Daveh should spend the night at the very least.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
B-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry Sands
Grant Desme 2.0 (minus the whole leaving to become a priest)?
B-, definitely need to see the bat at a higher level.
by RogerDorn on Jun 4, 2025 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
Different
Desme was an extremely toolsy athlete.
Sands is more of a low average slugger in the future.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
by cwhitman412 on Jun 4, 2025 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
My thought on this is that all of the average posted letter grades are about one to two half-grades too high, which makes a lot of sense. For the most part, people are only taking the time to rank guys they have an interest in, and most of us don’t have a long list of prospects we absolutely hate, but we do have in our minds a bunch of guys who really pique our interest. There’s a pretty big selection bias in these grades, in other words. Still a fun exercise though.
by limozeen on Jun 4, 2025 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
+1
this.
I drink your milkshake! I drink it up! Well Mr. Plainview, Devin Mesoraco and I drank lots of milkshakes, and we will drink yours too!
by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 4, 2025 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
B-
Tough call . . .he’s definitely improved over last year, but between the environment and the quality of the competition, Lancaster might just be the easiest place in the minor leagues to hit. Austin has been way better in Lancaster (.818 home OPS vs. .680 away).
I’ll give some credit for youth and some improvement in the numbers.
by mrkupe on Jun 5, 2025 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
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