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Chicago Cubs Preliminary Prospect List

Preliminary list of Cubs prospects below the fold.....

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Jeff Antigua               LHP

Chris Archer               RHP

Darwin Barney              SS

Jeff Beliveau              LHP

Alberto Cabrera            RHP

Chris Carpenter            RHP

Marco Carrillo             RHP

Wellington Castillo        C

Robinson Chirinos          C

Rafael Dolis               RHP

Ryan Flaherty              3B

Micah Gibbs                C

Cameron Greathouse         RHP

Reggie Golden              OF

Brandon Guyer              OF
Jae-Hoon Ha                OF

Brett Jackson              OF

Jay Jackson                RHP

Su-Min Jung                RHP

Austin Kirk                LHP
Aaron Kurcz                RHP

Junior Lake                SS

Hak-Ju Lee                 SS

D.J. LeMahieu              2B

Robinson Lopez             RHP

Trey McNutt                RHP

Brooks Raley               LHP

Austin Reed                RHP

Chris Rusin                LHP

Aaron Shafer               RHP

Hayden Simpson             RHP

Marquez Smith              3B

Nicholas Struck            RHP 

Matt Szczur                OF

Josh Vitters               3B

Brett Wallach              RHP

Logan Watkins              2B

Ben Wells                  RHP

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Who do you choose

if you had to choose 1: McNutt or Archer?

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going."

by BenMc5 on Dec 3, 2025 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

What number are you gunning for

Right now, unless I miscounted, things stand at 38. Either way, I’m not sure Marco Carrillo should be on it. Whitenack, Clevenger, Daniel Sanchez, Matt Spencer, Pin-Chieh Chen, Kyle Smit, Frank Batista, Luis Liria, David Cales, Dae-Eun Rhee, Arismendy Alcantara and a few others intrigue me more than Carrillo, who is a minor league rubber arm.

If you are sticking with 38 and had to pick a 1 for 1 replacement, I’d go with Matt Cerda ahead of Marco Carrillo. Great approach at the plate, solid defensively at 2nd or 3rd, and might have a tiny bit more pop in his bat.

by toonsterwu on Dec 3, 2025 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

numbers

The book is running too long and I’ve got to start cutting teams back to 36-38. Many teams already exceed 40 and I’m going to have to start cutting players I’ve already written up. I can dump Carillo but would need a direct exchange. Cerda makes some sense

by John Sickels on Dec 3, 2025 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Give the signing hype...

Surprised Juan Yasser Serrano isn’t on the list…

by dbreer23 on Dec 3, 2025 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

serrano

Because he sucked at Boise.

by John Sickels on Dec 3, 2025 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I mentioned this is another topic, I think...

but he wasn’t all that bad in Boise - decent BB/9 rate (less than 3), FIP was less than 4.40 (a run less than his ERA), and a good HR/9 rate, with a sustainable BABIP against. Given that it was his first exposure to American baseball, I think it was a good showing, even at age 22.

by dbreer23 on Dec 3, 2025 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

a couple thoughts

agree with toonsterwu, I might think about Cerda and Kyle Smit, ahead of Carrillo and Beliveau. I like Beliveau too, but Smit has ARL working somewhat in his advantage (Beliveau had a very nice year, but he was 23 in A/A+). Smit looked very good when I saw him in TN.

by PrincetonCubs on Dec 3, 2025 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

Smit

not only does he have ARL, but he also has a 40 man spot. I would much rather see Cerda on there, as I think Cerda holds more intrigue, but tough to pass up a 40 man guy. If I had to suggest a 2nd swap, I might ponder swapping Smit and Shafer. Smit’s stuff might be a tinge better, and he’s ahead of Shafer right now (I’d probably still have Cales ahead of Shafer, Shafer has a slighty better fastball, Cales has a better overall arsenal and is more advanced).

by toonsterwu on Dec 3, 2025 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Rhee over Beliveau and Cerda over Carrillo

But only if Rhee is going to begin throwing his splitter again this upcoming season

by daveell on Dec 3, 2025 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

rhee

he was terrible last year

by John Sickels on Dec 3, 2025 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about terrible

I’d say he wasn’t good, but for a guy a coming off TJS and skipping a level, while being restricted from throwing his out pitch … I don’t know if I’d go so far as to call it a terrible campaign. Fastball velocity was largely there.

My bigger issue, though, even pre-TJS, was whether or not Rhee was durable enough to stick as a starter.

by toonsterwu on Dec 3, 2025 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Jin-Yeong Kim

I’d take him over either Carrillo or Beliveau, but I understand if someone else is more hesitant to do so, given that he has only pitched in Fall Instructs. However, what he showed there was too good for me to leave off the list for the likes of those two guys.

by RynoRooter on Dec 3, 2025 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, forgot about Kim totally

1.2 mill bonus should get him on the list anyway. Has impeccable control, lots of projection, and throws over 90 as an 18 yr old. He’s top 15ish for me most likely.

by daveell on Dec 3, 2025 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

kim

Yeah forgot about Kim.

See how hard this is guys?

by John Sickels on Dec 3, 2025 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Rhee was terrible, but.....

It was his first season back post TJS and he wasn’t allowed to throw his splitter, which was by far his best pitch, pre surgery. It’s not a big deal, since I have him 30th myself in ranking Cubs prospects, so it’s not like I think he’s worthy of top 20 either. But, he does have a slight built in excuse for WHY he was bad in 2010 at least. Could easily be forever too, if he doesn’t go back to the splitter.

by daveell on Dec 3, 2025 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

meant to say.....

Rhee could easily be done forever, if he doesn’t go back to the splitter. Stuff was very hittable without it. That pitch was described as having “circus type” movement though and was unhittable evidently pre-surgery.

On the other hand, this system has LOTS of solid depth at this point, albeit without too many top tier type guys.

by daveell on Dec 3, 2025 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

One more I'd ponder striking

Logan Watkins. There’s very little indication that he’s going to add power. He feels like a utility infielder/outfielder type.

Overall, I’d consider swapping out

Marco Carrillo (more of a minor league rubber arm), Jeff Beliveau (love the stuff, but Cubs have a lot of LOOGY types ahead, and they are fairly high on someone like Luke Sommer), Aaron Shafer (hard to put him ahead of guys like Cales and Smit, personally), and Logan Watkins (minimal power, seems more like a util IF/OF/PR type of guy).

I’d ponder replacing with

Jin Yeong Kim (if you are willing to grade him, personally had him 13th in the system), Matt Cerda, Kyle Smit, and one more, either Rhee, Whitenack, David Cales, or maybe even a Daniel Sanchez (but there’s very little known there).

BTw, Cam Greathouse is a LHP.

by toonsterwu on Dec 3, 2025 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

Agree on Watkins

He struck out WAY too much to have so little power. But what about Shafer? He put up some very good numbers this year in relief, albeit as a 23 year old in High A and AA. Is his stuff still down, or did he gain a few mphs on his fastball? Last I heard, he was sitting about 89. And if we are even going to consider Daniel Sanchez, we need to throw Dong-Yub Kim’s name in the hat as well. He’s one of the only raw power guys we have in our system, to go along with great speed and athleticism. Anybody ever find out what injury he had this whole year? I assumed it was TJ surgery, but never got a concrete answer.

by RynoRooter on Dec 3, 2025 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

re:

I’ve only heard of Shafer as a low 90’s guy (which is a tin bit above where he was as a starter out of college, IIRC, as he sat high 80’s/low 90’s at the end of his collegiate career). I’ll grant that his fb is probably a tick better than someone like Cales (although Smit probably has a tick better fastball), but most accounts suggests that Cales slider is solid and he’s at a higher level.

I could go with Dong-Yub there as well. There’s a few more guys I’d ponder. I am intrigued enough with the idea of an above average power guy at shortstop who has a shot of sticking there defensively. Granted, our system has up the middle talent.

by toonsterwu on Dec 3, 2025 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

smit

Smit is on. Carillo out.

by John Sickels on Dec 3, 2025 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

any thoughts on

I’ll try to make more specific swap suggestions then. I can understand leaving Jin Yeong Kim off (lack of much work to discuss). I can also understand leaving guys like Clevenger (I don’t believe the difference in grades for Castillo and Clevenger is all that much … Clevenger’s more consistent than Castillo defensively and will hit for a better average), Spencer (look at Spencer’s numbers in comparison to the Southern League - 12th best SLG and 20th best OPS - I think he could have a monster season in the PCL), and a guy like Tony Thomas off. Guys like Sanchez, Kim, Chen, Alcantara may be too raw, and Rhee/Whitenack have enough to prove. Guys like Frank Batista and Luis Liria are raw arms, but almost all systems have those guys.

So what about

David Cales for Aaron Shafer - This may be hindered by what you saw, as I don’t believe you were that excited when you saw Cales this year. That said, Shafer, unless you’ve got better reports, has a marginally better fastball, and Cales slider should be better than any secondary offering from Shafer. Shafer has a deeper arsenal, but that only means so much out of the pen. Both look like potential middle relievers (always thought of Cales as a bit of a Michael Wuertz-ish type), and both had strong years at AA. Cales did finish at AAA and is a year younger, though. Outside of Shafer’s pre-injury pedigree, I’m not sure that he stands out enough.

Matt Cerda for Logan Watkins - Watkins was the more intriguing guy entering the year, as Cerda had failed as a catcher. That said, what did Watkins do this year? I like the guy, hope his athleticism translates, but I think Cerda is more likely to develop into a starter than Watkins. Watkins isn’t expected to add power, whereas there is some expectation for Cerda to add a touch more pop. Both guys are fine defensively at 2nd. Watkins can play a dash of SS and CF, while Cerda handled 3rd fine. Cerda has a better approach at the plate as Watkins strikes out way too much for his limited offensive upside.

by toonsterwu on Dec 4, 2025 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Marquez Smith

anybody have any solid info about him. I’ve seen in a few places that he plays his position well and seems to have an serviceable stick. Why would the Cubs leave him exsposed to the rule 5?

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Dec 3, 2025 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

re:

I feel like that Marquez Smith may be a tad underrated (even by me, I left him in the 30’s of my Cubs list, and most folks I’ve seen have him, at best, in the 20’s). Guys like LeMahieu and Flaherty get more rub than him, but there’s a borderline chance that he has some more starting ability, more for a 2nd tier club, than either of those guys (not saying that DJ and Ryan are destined to be utility guys, but that Marquez’s ability to become a starter at 3rd base may be higher than those two’s ability to become a starter overall … it’s at the least somewhat debatable).

He’s a guy who is solid defensively at 3rd, has some pop (albeit, more line drive variety). Problem is his lack of versatility right now. He tried some 2nd base in Low A, but didn’t take to it, and the Cubs haven’t tried him in the OF. Essentially, he’d be a pure 3rd base backup, and the Cubs have Jeff Baker and Blake DeWitt as guys (along with Darwin Barney) that can backup there. He’s not your classic big bat off the bench either. That’s probably the reason why he was left exposed, although he was one of the borderline cases and by most indications, the Cubs debated protecting him for a long time.

by toonsterwu on Dec 4, 2025 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  


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