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Origins of Top 2008 Major League Relievers

Origins of Top Major League Relief Pitchers, 2008

This is a list of major league relievers with 10 or more Win Shares in 2008. Again, I apologize for the bad formatting.

Mariano Rivera,RHP, Yankees       17  WS           Free Agent, 1990, Panama
Joakim Soria, RHP, Royals             15  WS           Free Agent, 2001, Mexico
Brad Lidge, RHP, Phillies                13 WS           1st round, 1998, Notre Dame
Joe Nathan, RHP, Twins                  13 WS           6th round, 1995, Stony Brook
Jonathan Papelbon, RHP, Red Sox  13  WS       4th round, 2003, Mississippi State
Francisco Rodriguez, RHP, Angels  12 WS          Free Agent, 1998, Venezuela
Jose Arredondo, RHP, Angels           12 WS        Free Agent, 2002, Dominican
Brian Fuentes, LHP, Rockies            11 WS        25th round, 1995, Merced JC
Bobby Jenks,RHP, White Sox           11 WS         5th round, 2000, Washington HS
J.P. Howell, LHP, Rays                     11 WS          1st round, 2004, University of Texas
Jose Valverde,RHP, Astros               11 WS         Free Agent, 2001, Dominican
Brad Ziegler, RHP, Athletics             10 WS         20th round, 2003, SW Missouri ST
Carlos Marmol, RHP, Cubs              10 WS         Free Agent, 1999, Dominican
Chad Qualls, RHP, D-backs            10 WS      2nd round, 2000, University of Nevada
Francisco Cordero, RHP, Reds       10 WS         Free Agent,1994, Dominican
Grant Balfour, RHP, Rays                  10 WS         Free Agent, 1997, Australia
Hong-chih Kuo, LHP, Dodgers          10 WS        Free Agent, 1999, Taiwan
Joba Chamberlain, RHP, Yankees   10 WS    1st round, 2006, Uni of Nebraska
Kevin Gregg, RHP, Marlins                10 WS         15th round, 1996, Oregon HS
Kerry Wood, RHP, Cubs                     10 WS         1st round, 1995, Texas HS
Scott Downs,LHP, Blue Jays           10 WS     3rd round, 1997, University of Kentucky

21 pitchers

4 1st round Picks                          19%
1 2nd round Pick                            5%                        
3 3rd- 5th round Picks                   14%
1 6th -10th round Pick                     5%
3 11th round+  Picks                     11%
9 Free Agents                               44%

3 High School Picks                     14%
1 Junior College Pick                      5%
8 Four-Year College Picks           38%
7 Latin Free Agents                      33%
1 Taiwan Free Agent                       5%
1 Australian Free Agent                  5%

High School Origins: Oregon, Texas, and Washington state 1 each.

Very different ratios than the starters, granted the sample size is smaller. We will pull all this together tomorrow.

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Interesting...

I find it interesting that so many of them are international signings. I wonder if any of that has to do with the fact that we don’t develop HS relievers in this country. The only guys who wind up in that role (usually) are failed starters, and anyone with a lick of talent is trying to be a starter.

by ADLC on May 24, 2025 1:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Polish

Just a guess, but it might have something to do with international guys being a bit rawer in general. The rawer the player, the more likely they get relegated to a relief role at some point.

by aCone419 on May 25, 2025 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Odd

One thing I found (randomly) is out of the entire list of pitchers you provided, only 3 of them were drafted in rounds 10-19 (Jamie Shields 16th and Andy Sonnastine 13th, Kevin Gregg 15th), while the amount of players drafted in rounds 20-29 is much larger, 8 (Roy Oswalt 23rd, Jesse Listch 24th, Kyle Lohse 29th, Ted Lilly 23rd, Andy Pettite 22nd, Nick Blackburn 29th, Brian Fuentes 25th, and Brad Ziegler 20th). Any reasons for this do you think? Only thing that I could come up with is if teams liked taking risky hitters in 10-19 and then took more pitchers from there on.

Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson

by gore51 on May 24, 2025 1:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Draft-and-follow

Most if not all of the players in rounds 20-29 were JUCO guys who were presumably draft-and-follows. Those players generally didn’t go until the later rounds.

by Tom (RFTN) on May 24, 2025 10:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

curious

sickels or anyone, of the 21 listed were any of them strictly relievers or were they all starters turned relievers?

by krgrecw on May 24, 2025 4:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Broxton

I guess he missed the cutoff. 2nd rounder from Burke County High, Ga. He started at first.

by wobatus on May 24, 2025 5:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs


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