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Answering Some Discussion Questions

Someone asked me to give my own answers for some recent discussion questions, so here goes.

Travis Snider vs. Dexter Fowler:
    I took the contrarian tack here and voted for Fowler, since he has a broader skill base than Snider. That could easily be the wrong decision; in fact I could change my mind and Snider may end up ahead of Fowler on the 50/50 list depending on what I come up with when I do my analysis for the book. Snider does have a great chance to be an excellent impact hitter, but he also may age poorly, while Fowler has a broader base of talents and should, in theory anyway, age better. Their styles are obviously very different, which is why I put the question to you in the first place. Who is more valuable to your team? A potential monster slugger like Snider, or a leadoff guy with some pop, on-base skills, and better defense? I suppose it depends on exactly how good Snider can be...will he be "just" a solid slugger? Or will he be a monster offensive force? Too early to tell. Anyhow, the bottom line is that I voted for Fowler initially but could easily change my mind.

Madison Bumgarner vs. Jhoulys Chacin
     I voted for Bumgarner on this one, but it was a close decision, much closer in my mind than the voting. I think that Bumgarner has a higher potential ceiling than Chacin, but that Chacin is more polished, has an impressive ceiling of his own, and is less likely to fail at higher levels. I particularly like Chacin's combination of ground balls and strikeouts. Bumgarner's statistics are impossible to ignore, of course, and it will be interesting to see how much his ratios deteriorate at a higher level next year, if they do at all. I went with Bumgarner and unless something changes that ranking will stick on the next prospect list, but they won't be far apart. Chacin is still underrated by some people I believe.

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You`ve got to go with Bumgarner at this point.....

..because of his historic statistics in LOW A, but look for that to change in the future. Chacin has good secondary stuff (specifically a plus change up that will come in handy while pitching in Coors), and a good curve that has potential to be a plus pitch in the future. Add in the fact that Chacin`s fastball is probably nearly as good as Bum`s (96-97 with late break) is extremely telling; unless Bumgarner can develop some strong secondary stuff, he will see his stats decline as he goes up through the ranks.

by soccerman0 on Sep 20, 2025 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wait what

you’re saying you think Bumgarner is a better prospect but you think Chacin WILL be better?

By definition, doesn’t that mean that you actually think Chacin is a better prospect?

by nms on Sep 21, 2025 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am saying....

With the way Bumgarner pitched last year, he has to be considered a better prospect RIGHT NOW. I happen to beleive that Chacin will assert himself as the best pitching prospect in the league next year, but thats besides the point…RIGHT NOW Bumgarner is better.

by soccerman0 on Sep 21, 2025 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but that is the point

the definition of prospecting is who you think WILL be better…

Jason Pridie is a better player than Aaron Hicks right now, that doesn’t make him a better prospect.

Think about a guy like Ian Kennedy, for much of his HS, college and pro career (up until the MLB level basically) he has been better player than several guys who were still obviously better prospects than him.

by nms on Sep 21, 2025 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I had the question wrong...

I thought it was who would be higher in terms of scouting profile at the moment, not in the future. I do not have confidence in Bumgarner`s secondary stuff (his arm slot will always limit his curve) and for that reason I do not think Bumgarner will be as successful as Chacin.

by soccerman0 on Sep 21, 2025 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Snyder over Fowler … Two different players completely. Snyder is less athletic, left-handed plus bat and a corner OF and Fowler is speedy, good bat CF.

Bumgarner over Chacin … Like both P but Bumgarner is better upside.

by bryeic on Sep 20, 2025 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fowler

I’ve heard him compared to a guy like Granderson - is that off base?

by rdf8585 on Sep 20, 2025 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh

He’s probably faster than Granderson, and there’s still questions about his power production, but that’s not the most unreasonable comp in the world.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Sep 20, 2025 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snyder VS. Fowler

“Age Poorer” “Age Better” sounds alot like lawyer double speak to me. What the heck is this all about?

by bankertuck on Sep 23, 2025 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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