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Carlos Gomez

Carlos Gomez, OF, New York Mets
Bats: R    Throws: R     HT: 6-2    WT: 170   DOB: December 4, 2025
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I don't like the way the Mets have handled their prospects lately. Carlos Gomez was badly, BADLY rushed, and they have pushed Fernando Martinez and Deolis Guerra much too quickly in my opinion. Carlos Gomez had no business in the majors last year. He's a remarkable athlete with plus speed, a great glove, and offensive potential. But his bat is unrefined. His plate discipline is poor, his power is undeveloped, and he needs regular playing time get his swing in gear and work these issues out. Regular playing time in Double-A and Triple-A, not in the majors. Sticking him in the regular lineup in '08, like the Mets are talking about, is a huge risk for his long-term development, and an unnecessary one. The Mets are hardly strapped for resources, and putting this guy in the lineup seems pointless to me. Surely then can find a decent stopgap veteran, or even someone trapped in Triple-A with another team. Normally I'm all in favor of playing the kids, but I want to play kids who are ready. Gomez isn't ready. Maybe I'm wrong, and if he has a great year I'll gladly admit it. But right now he's a .240 hitter, with no power and a weak on-base percentage. The only things he does well right now are field and steal bases, and you can find guys who do that. Why risk Gomez's career? And why bust his service time? It makes no sense to me at all. Grade B because of his long-term potential.

I'm posting this because I think a lot of people will disagree with it. Am I too hard on the Mets here?

UPDATE: You guys are right about the injury factor forcing Gomez into the Show, and I will revise the comment to reflect this. However, I still have doubts about his bat. He's looked like a very weak hitter when I've seen him. Perhaps I am too contrarian when it comes to Mets and Yankees prospects. Call it pro-Midwest bias if you will. We all have out biases, the key is to be aware of them. I will think more about Gomez and will consider if I'm just being stubborn about this.

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Gomez >> Davis
Yes, they rushed him, but they rushed Jose Reyes and that turned out alright too.    Gomez has a higher ceiling than Davis, and does more for your ballclub.  While Davis may have more power, Gomez can defend any position in the OF, hit for average, and has enough pop in his bat to be a useful piece to any puzzle.  I'd like him best in CF..because of the lack of real power.. but I'd rate him out a B+.

A B is a very conservative assessment, and that's fine too.

by cubsfan2883 on Nov 24, 2025 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chris Davis from
the Rangers, he is arguing that Gomez is a better prospect and if Davis was B+ worthy then so is Gomez. I would argue that Davis is over ranked though rather then Gomez being under-ranked

by Trenchtown on Nov 24, 2025 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but you could end up with Russ Branyan
or Jose Hernandez, guys who don't walk and K a ton.

by Bravesin07 on Nov 24, 2025 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure
I put a lot of weight on superstar outcomes, and Davis has a lot of those in his range. I can accept eight Russ Branyans for one league average 1b and one Ryan Howard.

by rwperu34 on Nov 24, 2025 9:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

did they rush jose reyes? how has it turned out?
i think i've come around to the point that i'm indifferent as to whether it's a problem for position prospects to be rushed.  on the one hand, you're correct that it unnecessarily burns service time, and does not offer much long term benefit, but on the other, if the prospect can hold his head above water, there's a lot more he can learn, and he could learn it a lot faster.  
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by overlord on Nov 24, 2025 6:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd say
Jury is still out. Reyes is still an incredibly streaky hitter, his 2006 season was basically fueled by 2 extremely hot months. I can't at this point say what Reyes' "true" hitting level is. But I am still a very strong disbeliever in rushing position prospects, especially ones with weak secondary skills

by Trenchtown on Nov 24, 2025 8:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indifferent
Not sure I would use that word.  I really think the better way to say it, at least from my own perspective, is "it all depends on the individual."  Some player can handle aggressive promotion tracks - they thrive on the challenge and will get bored if they are not continuously challenged.  Others will get very complacent once they reach the bigs - not wanting to work on the little things (like swing mechanics).

And since I do not know Gomez personally, it's tough for me to sit here and decide whether the aggressive promotion track is a good or bad thing for him.  That being said, a "B" grade is very fair, given the concerns John mentioned.

by guru4u on Nov 24, 2025 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez adjusted well in June
He hit .299 with a .410 slugging, which is pretty good for a 8 place hitter, granted he got on with some bunts but that's what 8 place hitters do.  He's also changed his stance a bit when watching some winterball.  He has his hands back now and his swing looks just like Alex Rios swing now.  Remember Rios had trouble hitting for power early on in his career and lets not forget at 21 Rios was in high A ball.  True the Mets did rush Gomez but he adjusted to AA very well after a couple of months in 2006 and hit .341 the last two months of the season.  This year he was hitting .286 in AA and was starting to hit the ball hard hitting 2 HR's in 3 games before he was called up and had a pretty solid 15-23 BB/K.  I talked to a baseball scout and he said that Gomez reminded him a bit of Garrett Anderson but with speed.

by Bravesin07 on Nov 24, 2025 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez was rushed...
his offensive potential is completely underdeveloped.  I wholeheartedly agree with John...  we've had this discussion in several different diaries.  First Gomez is Rios, then he's Garret Anderson, then he's God...  Seriously, Gomez isn't anything but Carlos Gomez.  Until he develops or proves himself with time (not just in a month, but a season or two as guys like Chris Shelton and Kevin Maas do have a nice season every couple of years).  He was simply overmatched this past August/September and shouldn't be anywhere near the bigs until next September.  

His plate discipline is horrible right now (to the point where I think he could easily get eaten up in college ball).  Until he learns plate discipline or to make solid contact on a consistent basis, he's going to get eaten up in the MLB.  

"When Justin Upton faces Lincecum, I think Christ might appear in the heavens, and the world will end." -JakeFree

by JT12340 on Nov 25, 2025 12:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez in 2008
I really doubt that Gomez will be up with the Mets in 2008 unless they trade Lastings Milledge.

by rsvandy on Nov 24, 2025 7:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

B/B+
I think that I would consider him a B+, but a B sounds OK, too.

by rsvandy on Nov 24, 2025 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez
Gomez wound up in the majors last year because Beltran, Chavez, Milledge, Ben Johnson, and Moises Alou were all hurt at the same time.  That was not by design.  As far as rushing goes, that depends on where you are in the standings, i. e., it was easier to bring Wright and Reyes up early because the team had nothing to lose by bringing them up and keeping them up even if they struggled (which they both did to some extent initially).  By contrast, Milledge has been up and down and on the bench a bit too much, and Pelfrey was starting in the majors a year early when the team DID have something to lose.

I'd like to see Gomez get a full year in AAA.  I like Gomez, but if a trade comes up I'd move him before Milledge or Martinez.  Partly because Milledge is more ready, but mostly because his biggest asset is his centerfield defense, which would have more value to another team than it does to the Mets.

by smg58 on Nov 24, 2025 7:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gomez will be traded
His last month though in the DWL he's hitting .333/.382/.431/.813 in 51 AB's with a 4/5 BB/K.  In fact in his last 38 AB's he's struckout once with 3 walks.

by Bravesin07 on Nov 24, 2025 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gomez
I'm not really as high on Gomez in the long term as many. The speed is great, but his power potential is overstated. True, the Mets rushed him, but I don't think they've destroying a great prospect.

by M Gianella on Nov 24, 2025 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

so what you're saying
is that his ceiling is present-day carl crawford...not bad in my book

by robcast23 on Nov 24, 2025 11:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

when did he say that?
how did you get the words Carl Crawford from "I'm not really as high on Gomez in the long term as many. The speed is great, but his power potential is overstated. True, the Mets rushed him, but I don't think they've destroying a great prospect."

You can't even spell Carl Crawford out of all those letters.

by mroak89 on Nov 25, 2025 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty funny,
comparing an prospect to an allstar who wasn't mentioned in the post... He was just reading in between the lines, Alon...  The lines seem like they were out of bounds though...
"When Justin Upton faces Lincecum, I think Christ might appear in the heavens, and the world will end." -JakeFree

by JT12340 on Nov 25, 2025 12:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez is actually 6'4 195
I wonder if that is a legit height.  This discussion reminds me of the one in the past about Alex Rios after his poor 2nd year in the majors.

by Bravesin07 on Nov 24, 2025 8:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

its legit
i stood next to him, hes definitely in that 6'3"-6'4" area. he doesn't seem like it on tv because he crouches so much in his stance.

by robcast23 on Nov 24, 2025 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think you are being hard on the Mets JS...
nor do i think you are wrong about your assesment of Gomez should he start for them next year but, I DO think you are a bit off in only giving him a "B". I like him better than maybe half of the guys who have a B+ so far. he's goiung to be a fine player IMO but, I agree he could use a full year of AAA ball.

by casejud on Nov 24, 2025 9:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't see the fuss
I think most sane people can see that Carlos Gomez has a very wide range of possible outcomes. His ceiling is Alfonso Soriano, and that is quite studley and you can't say that about most prospcts. His floor is 5th outfielder/pinch runner, and there is a good chance he could end up like that. There are plenty of other outcomes in between.

He's not definitely going to be good, he's not definitely going to be bad. He does have a definite value right now, and because I put a little extra weight on ceiling, I'd give him a B+. I can accept a lot of failure for a chance at Alfonso Soriano, especially when a some of his "failures", turn out to be a pretty good CF, around the value of Juan Pierre.

by rwperu34 on Nov 24, 2025 9:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Boom or Bust
He could be Nook Logan or as some people say Hanley Ramirez in the outfield.  He's almost in the same boat Hanley was after 2005.  Great tool guy who didn't hit for much as a 21 year old and didn't show much power.  

by Bravesin07 on Nov 24, 2025 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

can you provide a link for that comparison?
really, when was logan ever compared to hanley ramirez?  perhaps by one poster to another, but never by an expert...
"When Justin Upton faces Lincecum, I think Christ might appear in the heavens, and the world will end." -JakeFree

by JT12340 on Nov 25, 2025 12:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Misunderstood
I think you misunderstood there, I think he was saying that Gomez could be Logan on one end of the developmental curve, and HanRam(only an OF) on the other end.  At least that's what I got out of it.
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by gatling on Nov 25, 2025 12:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

B+/A-
Your 100% right about how the Mets rushed Gomez, and are rushing F-Mart..  I also hated how they handled Pelfrey.. the guy looks like CRAP because they didn't let him develop.

But I have seen some of the prospects you have given a B+ A- and I think Gomez should be that high.. the guy has so much potential with his body he could fill out and be Hanley.. or He could be Jose Reyes..

by Fair Projector on Nov 25, 2025 12:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Projector,
I believe that the Mets have rushed their field players.  I think they believe in challenging them, presenting an opportunity to either sink or swim...  This is good for some guys like a Jose Reyes who continues to adjust, but for a guy like Gomez, it seems to shake his confidence.  Frankly, I'm not a fan of Gomez.  He has incredible athleticism, but it's rare that a great athlete becomes a great baseball player... The ones that do are HOFer's like Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, Bo Jackson (probably not an HOFer, but stil an impeccable specimen), Kenny Lofton (great athlete, merely a very productive player)...  

On the other hand, I believe that the Mets have been protective with their pitching to a fault.  It seems as though since the mid-90's when their big three (Issy, Wilson, and Pulse) had blowouts and almost destroyed their arms, they have babied their pitchers.  Pelfrey had very good breaking stuff in college, but it has regressed since he was limited or not allowed to throw it.  In his case, he has talent and will probably need to relearn that control to become a good pitcher.  His fastball is like a dart (nice and straight, virtually no movement), his offspeed stuff is mediocre (it needs a ton of development), and his breaking stuff looks like he has zero control (it seems as though he prays that it goes through the zone crisply because it gets destroyed if not).  The Mets seem preoccupied about injury rather than development, that's the gist...

"When Justin Upton faces Lincecum, I think Christ might appear in the heavens, and the world will end." -JakeFree

by JT12340 on Nov 25, 2025 12:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Response
"He has incredible athleticism, but it's rare that a great athlete becomes a great baseball player... The ones that do are HOFer's like . . ."

Keeping in the spirit of this thread, I'm just going to assume that you called Carlos Gomez a future Hall of Famer and leave it at that.

by mrkupe on Nov 25, 2025 3:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

pelfrey analysis is all wrong
not trying to be a jerk but IMO you're way off in your analysis of pelfrey...i'm not sure if you've just read about him or maybe caught 1-2 starts (thats my guess) or if you've actually watched each of his ML starts like i have but at points you're actually stating the exact opposite of the truth

pelfrey's universally accepted #1 strength is the movement on his fastball, like this isn't even arguable, its fact...now he has control issues with it at times but its pretty much the opposite of a "dart" fastball like you said, and i know what you mean, its a fastball kind of like phil hughes' or verlander

second, while you're right that he has little to no control of his breaking stuff, mainly his newly developed slider, when he struggles its not that its getting "destroyed", its that he can't keep it out of the dirt to save his life so he has to rely 100% on the fb which in turn gets hit

now your point about how peterson junked his curve is a good one and i'd tend to agree with you on it

by robcast23 on Nov 25, 2025 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you want a guy to develop..
you stick him in early. IN GENERAL, given 2 players, A and B of equal talent, the one who gets MLB experience earliest will have the better career. Teams know this, but not willing to put up with their growing pains for one thing, but, mainly, most teams aren't looking out for the player...looking out for themselves as to where they can get the most production in years 1-3 while not hindering the guy's development too badly. They really don't care if they're chopping off some prime years upside cuz it won't do them any good anyway, and don't consider themselves in the business of being farm teams for the rich ones.

by dryice on Nov 25, 2025 8:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think B+ would be more accurate
Considering who else you gave B+'s to

I think the Mets did rush him, but that was also because they did not have many options with all of the injuries they suffered in the OF this year.  I think the only "starter" who did not miss significant time with injuries was Shawn Green and when guys like Milledge, Chavez, Ben Johnson, etc. were called upon to replace the injured OF they got injured.  If the Mets could have kept Gomez in the minors they probably would have, but the situation dictated Gomez needing to be called up

by mtk52983 on Nov 25, 2025 9:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interview w/ Mets Director of Minor League Ops
Adam Wogan Interview courtesy of http://metsminors.metsblog.com/

"TH: That certainly is the philosophy to push guys pretty hard.  This Mets organization really does push guys pretty aggressively, right?

AW: We like to challenge guys, might be the term we like to use a little more than "push."  We feel if guys are ready, we like to see what they can do ahead and do at a level.  It's good our guys to face adversity and be in a spot where they have to step up to show us what they can do in a tough situation.  All that really matters is the big league level.  All that matters is what guys are going to be able to do when they get there, and helping out the Mets organization.  We feel like challenging players is the best route to go.  "

by brandard on Nov 25, 2025 10:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ceiling of an A prospect but C+ performance
If Gomez can get to his ceiling and that is a huge if and if he played center he would be one of the best all around players in the game.

by Bravesin07 on Nov 25, 2025 10:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

John
Usually I love your opinions, but you are woefully poor at looking at the big picture.

Do you think the Mets wanted to rush Gomez?

Of course not. "The Mets should have been able to find a stop-gap.

John, did you look at how many injuries the Mets had last year in the outfield? We had to promote Gomez. We gave him a taste of the big leagues out of necessity. And at first he looked like he was going to be able to handle it, then began to struggle. What he did show us was poise. He looked like a major leaguer...as odd as it is to say because his stats didn't belie that sentiment.

He needs more time to develop. But the Mets simply didn't have that time. They gambled that it wouldn't hinder his development. He's 21 years old and before hurting his hand: .250/.303/.333.

Since hand injuries often take time for players to come back from and since he saw limited action even once healed, I don't know if this was Gomez 100% or not.

We cannot judge moves made by organizations in a vacuum. The Mets rushed Gomez but they had to do so. He's much better than a grade B. I'd say A-

by future on Nov 25, 2025 3:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

perspective
It is easy to lose perspective, and I admit I do this at times.

by John Sickels on Nov 25, 2025 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez, rushed?
You fail to mention that the reason he was on the ML team was due to injuries to Alou, Milledge, Chavez, Johnson and Green.  Under the circumstances he preformed better than most of the warm bodies found at AAA would have, Ambres, Tatis, etc., esp. on defense.

by Gus Gloom on Nov 25, 2025 3:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gomez/Martinez
I don't see a problem with how either have been pushed. Gomez, as mentioned by others, ended up in the big leagues because everybody else got hurt simultaneously. It was surprising when they had him skip a level and jump straight to AA in 2006 and he struggled for the first few months. But then he adjusted. He hit fine in AAA this year and that's where he'll start next season if he's in the organization. (Milledge is the RF if he's with the team and I believe he will be.)

Had Martinez not gotten injured, I think he would have made a similar adjustment to the one Gomez made a year earlier. If you look at his splits, he had a horrible April, then a great May, and by June he was playing hurt which brought his overall numbers back down.

For me, it makes intuitive sense to challenge position players like Reyes, Gomez, and Martinez. They have so much natural ability that if they played at each level at a normal age, they could produce very good numbers without ever learning the pitch recognition and strike zone discipline needed to succeed in the majors. By advancing them rapidly, it forces them to realize that coasting on natural ability is not going to work and leads to their making adjustments that will ultimately make them quality major league hitters.

Gomez shouldn't be in the majors next year because it would cost the Mets too many wins, but I don't believe being there would hurt him in the long run.

by jeck on Nov 25, 2025 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gomez will be an ex-met
If he is traded to the Twins for Garza.  The Mets aren't getting Santana but Garza is possible.  I know how John is killing Gomez on his weak performance but is thinking Alex Gordon is going to be alright despite his weak .247 average and terrible 41/137 BB/K.  Gordon was overrated in expectations because he had a .375 BABIP in AA.  Right now I would take Colby Rasmus over Gordon and possibly Jay Bruce.  Why you may ask, well for one Rasmus had a normal BABIP of .299 and had a better ISOP than Gordan in the same league at 20 years old.  Rasmus had only a 28% groundball rate which is great and a 23% linedrive rate.  Oh and Jay Bruce is going to overrated by people thinking he's going to have a monster year.  There is no way Bruce hits over .290 next year.  Bruce's BABIP across three levels was .400, .429, .359.  Granted his linedrive % is outstanding which will help.  

by Bravesin07 on Nov 25, 2025 7:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gomez vs everyone else
I agree, honestly, with your view of it.  I'd rather take a minor leaguer who is major league ready and capable of near All-Star performance over a "project" minor leaguer in most cases, simply because you know more of what you're going to get.

Now, if I was totally rebuilding a franchise, I might value the project highly simply because I'm trying to develop cornerstones of a 25 man roster.  Just my opinion.

by Lunkwill Fook on Nov 26, 2025 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
Gomez was definitely rushed this year.  He is a very, very raw ballplayer with some great tools.  We were able to see this year that he is an incredible athlete, but he looked way overmatched by major league pitching.  They need to keep him in the minors right now and develop him.  They do not have a need to rush him into service.  Alou is back in LF.  And Milledge (provided they don't trade him) is far more major league ready than Gomez.  They always have Endy Chavez to fall back on as a reliable 4th outfielder.  My two cents is that they should do everything they can to keep Gomez in the minors this year, unless he is absolutely tearing it up and showing that he deserves a shot on the big league level ala David Wright in his final half season in the minors.

by rvnic on Nov 26, 2025 1:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Raw
Gomez is raw in the sense that his tools haven't fully developed (particularly the power), but it's not as if he's all tools and no production.  People seem to overlook the fact that he hit .286/.363/.414 in 36 games at AAA.  140AB is a relatively small sample size, but the skills are clearly present and emerging.  He's not as raw as many suggest.

To note, he's hitting .263 in winter ball.  His last 10 games he has hit .308 with 3BB and just 1K.  If his discipline comes around, watch out, because the quick has a quick swing.

by nyr2k2 on Nov 26, 2025 2:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Are the Mets really planning on Gomez in MLB?
Sticking him in the regular lineup in '08, like the Mets are talking about

It seems more logical, assuming no trades are made, that Gomez would be in AAA, with Alou, Beltran, and Milledge starting in MLB.  They already have Endy Chavez and Marlon Anderson on the bench for the OF, and Ben Johnson a candidate if they need another bench guy.

But, most quotes from Omar in the offseason seem to be along the lines of "I feel if we were to go with some of our young players in right field, we could" 1  or "We're probably going young in right field" 2.  This implies Gomez could be in the mix as well, but it still seems Milledge would be more likely, barring a trade.  And, Marty Noble reports "They can't be sure Milledge can produce runs at a rate comparable to Alou's, they recognize Gomez isn't ready to perform -- even in a platoon -- and that Chavez's greatest value is as a No. 4 outfielder. The Mets need a left-handed-hitting outfielder." 3.

What I think raises the possibility of Gomez in the majors is the idea that Milledge might be traded.  This was the big rumour last offseason, and it never happened.  It seems to be a popular rumour again this offseason.  But if the Mets really plan to trade Milledge, why would they be hyping Gomez?  Moreover, while Milledge is the one the Mets seem more inclined to move, it seems a lot of potential trading partners ask for Gomez instead.  Last year it was the Marlins who weren't interested in Milledge, but wanted Gomez in any trade.  This year it seems to be the Twins who are interested in Gomez (though I doubt Keith Law's version, which had the Mets turning down Garza).

A year ago, I suspected that maybe Gomez was being over hyped, and that maybe Gomez was the one more likely to be traded.  At this point, I'm less inclined to think so.  Both the Mets, and most trading partners (apart from the more stats oriented A's), seem to me from their behavior and quotes, to really value Gomez over Milledge.  

by acerimusdux on Nov 26, 2025 8:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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