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Post-Hype Analysis: Brandon Morrow


Post-Hype Analysis: Brandon Morrow
   Per reader request, here is a look at Toronto Blue Jays starting pitcher Brandon Morrow.

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    Morrow was drafted by the Seattle Mariners in the first round in 2006, fifth overall, from the University of California. His college track record was mixed: he pitched poorly as a freshman (6.07 ERA in 30 innings, 18/19 K/BB) and was even worse as a sophomore (9.36 ERA, 25/20 K/BB in 25 innings). However, he looked much better against wooden bats in the 2005 Cape Cod League, posting a 1.84 ERA with a 24/9 K/BB in 15 innings for Yarmouth, being used as a closer. He took a big step forward as a starter in the spring of '06, posting a 2.05 ERA with a 97/39 K/BB in 97 innings for the Golden Bears, hitting 99 MPH and showing a good slider and splitter.
     There were two main questions for Morrow: would he throw enough strikes, and would he start or relieve in the majors? He's diabetic but has the condition under control, so that wasn't an issue. He got 16 innings of pro ball between the Arizona Rookie League and the California League, giving up four runs with a 17/9 K/BB. I gave him a Grade B+ in the '07 book, and wrote that "I really like his ceiling, but he may need a little more development time than some college aces."
    Morrow was so impressive in 2007 spring training that he made the major league roster, being used in relief. He posted a solid 4.12 ERA (ERA+107) but with a poor 66/50 K/BB in 63 innings: the strikeout rate was good, but there were too many walks. He improved in 2008 with a 3.34 ERA (127 ERA+), 75/34 K/BB in 65 innings, picking up 10 saves but also starting five games. However, his control slipped a bit in '09 (63/44 K/BB in 70 innings, ERA 4.39, ERA+98), and he was traded in December to Toronto for pitcher Brandon League and outfield prospect Johermyn Chavez.
     As you know, Morrow went 10-7, 4.49 ERA, 3.16 FIP, 3.48 xFIP with a 178/66 K/BB in 146 innings last year, giving him a WAR of 3.7. He's off to a strong start so far in '11, which makes sense given that his FIP and xFIP were much better than his ERA last year. Overall, in his major league career, Morrow has a 4.13 ERA with a 405/201 K/BB in 362 innings, 312 hits allowed, an ERA+ of 102, FIP 4.13, xFIP 3.18, WAR 5.4.
    Morrow got close to 100 MPH in the pen and pitches in the low-to-mid-90s as a starter, averaging 93.9 MPH with the Jays. He makes extensive use of his slider and curveball, but hasn't used a changeup much in his first starts of 2011 according to Pitch F/X. The metrics indicate that the slider has been his most effective pitch over the last three years. He missed the first part of this season with elbow soreness, but hasn't shown ill effects since returning.
    Morrow's K/IP ratios are excellent, and I think he has the stuff to be a number one or two starter if the command and health are there. He's capable of being one of the best pitchers in the league. My thinking is that his command will gradually improve and that he is going to have some outstanding seasons, but that he will have more health issues to work through and might not be a Verlander-type 200+-inning-per-year workhorse.

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This guy kills th Rays.

His stuff is just so so good.

by mr. maniac on May 10, 2025 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Such a strange trade for Ms

The upside was always there. They just needed to stick him in the rotation and leave him alone. Unless Seattle managed to clone King Felix, there was no reason for him not to have a place in that rotation.

by walnut falcons on May 10, 2025 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Jays fans thought

We loved that deal for the Jays. Watching League was a nightmare for Jays fans in close situations where he always seemed to let us down.

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by King Billy Royal on May 10, 2025 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sleep better at nights

since I stopped questioning Mariner’s moves.

by RedHopeful on May 10, 2025 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morrows durability makes me not care so much as a Mariners fan.

He’s been in the league long enough and only topped out at 146 innings last year. I’ll be surprised if he ever reaches 200 innings.

The only time League has looked bad this season is when he was asked to go into extra innings for the M’s. As a closer, he’s been dynamite. And at least Chavez is a maybe.

Sure, the Jays so far have won the deal and are the odds-on favorite to always be the “Winner” of the deal, but I will be shocked if Morrow ever becomes a full-time starter with <4 walks a game.

@casetines

by Kenneth Arthur on May 10, 2025 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only reason he only got 146 innings is because he had never been a full time starter.

The plan was always for him to throw 150 innings last year and then shut him down. After the M’s moved him back and forth between reliever and starter he never had the chance to throw a seasons worth of innings for a starter. Part of that was also due to injury but he really shouldn’t be labeled as injury prone just yet. Plus way to soon to say he won’t be an effective starter especially when you look at his post all star stats from last year where he was phenomenal until he was shut down.

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by Eddie.Teach on May 10, 2025 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Perhaps a lot of his injuries were caused by the M’s constantly switching his role from starter to reliever.

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by King Billy Royal on May 10, 2025 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet here we are with 21 innings thrown in 2011.

Brandon Morrow will have the same problem as any high strike-out, high walk pitcher. Strikeouts take more pitches. Walks take more pitches. He hits 100 pitches by the 6th inning. So he’ll never rack up big inning seasons, let alone the injuries.
Per baseball prospectus since 2008:
Soreness
Soreness
Spasms
Soreness
Inflammation
Tightness
Soreness
Inflammation

Morrow is a right-handed Erik Bedard.

@casetines

by Kenneth Arthur on May 10, 2025 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan

laughs at your narrow thinking.

by RedHopeful on May 10, 2025 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I was thinking the exact same thing! Nolan Ryan wasn’t a five-inning guy.

(Side note: Dude led the NL in ERA in ’87 and finished 8-16. Un-friggin-real.)

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by criminal type on May 10, 2025 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitch count restrictions are more severe now

If he were pitching today, I doubt Ryan would be allowed to stay in games as long as he did.

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by OremLK on May 11, 2025 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan

was a freak of nature, making comparisons to him seems misguided.

by KDean75 on May 11, 2025 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

OK

Ryan was a freak of nature. This is obvious. He maintained his effectiveness, velocity and durability into his mid-40’s. HOWEVER, Ryan may well have had something in his extremely tough leg workout regimen (similar to what Cy Young did, fwiw.)

So, here’s the $64,000 question: why shouldn’t starters be able to go 300 innings? This used to be routine, with considerably less medical and training knowledge available.

by GuyinNY on May 11, 2025 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

A random but logical guess: Pitchers throw harder and are better now than they used to be. And because they don't have to because using relievers is smarter, more effective.

I think Roy Halladay could go 300 innings, but that would be stupid considering how valuable he is to his team, to even risk the extra 50-70 extra innings.

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by Kenneth Arthur on May 13, 2025 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lessons to learn

John - given that the big question about him today is exactly the same one that existed on draft day five years ago, how much of the remaining uncertainty do you think is a product of the questionable development plan of the Mariners? Since you often look for generalizable results in your retrospectives, what do you think Morrow’s path - or even that of David Price who likewise shot through the minors and still has command questions that were out there on draft day - says about development paths?

by realitypolice on May 10, 2025 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Price really has improved on command.

It isn’t plus, but Price can command his pitches solidly.

by mr. maniac on May 10, 2025 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

question

good question. I think the Mariners were reckless having Morrow in the majors with virtually no minor league experience. . .he’s not the super-polished kind of guy who could get away with that, and even Verlander benefited from time in the minors. But Morrow has been OK…his biggest problem has been durability, and his command has gradually improved despite the way he was used.

Can we generalize anything from that? I don’t know.

by John Sickels on May 10, 2025 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

AS a jays fan i watch this guy and he really has amazing stuff,

they only thing left for him to do is put it all together. And yes the mariners missed out on drafting Lincecum to draft morrow and guess what Morrow is going to be pretty good to and you guys made another mistake in trading him because League isnt that good. And i have not even heard of that prospect who ever it was.

by Jt Malley on May 11, 2025 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Jon

Howabout retro’s on david wells and jim abbott, just curious how close they would of graded

by Kirtelio on May 11, 2025 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

If memory serves

John did an Abbott piece not too long ago?

by thehitonecafe on May 11, 2025 11:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Might be thinking

of Neyer’s “Hall of Amazing” piece right before he joined the true sports leader on the web…

by realitypolice on May 11, 2025 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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