Los Angeles Angels Organization Discussion
I am now working on the Los Angeles Dodgers. Keeping things in southern California, the next team on the list is the Los Angeles Angels, followed by the Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Pirates, Seattle Mariners, Florida Marlins, Chicago White Sox, and Milwaukee Brewers to finish things out.
Use this thread to discuss the Angels farm system, as usual focusing on any sleepers you think might get overlooked.
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Ryan Bolden
Taylor Lindsey
Luis Jiminez
Brandon Wood 4 Prez
by miketrout on Dec 29, 2025 7:38 PM EST reply actions
Bolden isnt great
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by mathisrocks5 on Dec 30, 2025 3:56 AM EST up reply actions
A stroll through the organization
Are you reading for a big one? OK, here goes…
Overall I think the Angels organization has improved significantly over the past few years, from being considered one of the best orgs in baseball 5-6 years ago* to one of the worst 2-3 years ago (after the generally disappointing prospect group from 5-6 made it to the big leagues). Right now I think they’re in the upper half, maybe in the #10-15 range, but I don’t study other farm systems well enough to be able to say with any certainty except to compare where they were a year or two ago. Given that the bulk of top prospects are moving up, the org should be top 10 by the end of the year, especially if Trout doesn’t graduate this year.
For the second year in a row the Angels had five picks in the first round, thanks to the losses of John Lackey, Chone Figgins, and Vlad Guerrero. With them they picked a group of high-risk/reward high school position players in Ryan Bolden, Chevez Clarke, and Taylor Lindsey. We haven’t seen much yet from top pick Kaleb Cowart, but from all accounts he has star potential. Steve Bedrosian’s son Cam could also really come along.
Let’s take a stroll through the organization, position-by-position, starting with the pitching staff….
One area that the organization currently excels at is good relief prospects, including Jordan Walden, Michael Kohn, Jeremy Berg, Steven Geltz, Eddie McKiernan, and Daniel Tillman. In 2-3 years they could truly have an incredible bullpen at the big league level. After that you have Cam Bedrosian, a supplemental first rounder in 2010.
Despite losing a few good pitching prospects through trades in 2010, most notably Tyler Skaggs (who, in my opinion, could be very, very good) and Patrick Corbin, not to mention Alex Torres a year before in the infamous Scott Kazmir trade, the Angels still have a few very good starting prospects: Garret Richards, Tyler Chatwood, and Fabio Martinez Mesa. In 2009 Trevor Reckling was probably their best starting prospect but his star has fallen after a year of stagnation. On the outskirts is supplemental pick Tyler Kehrer who struggled with his command but improved as the year went on.
The organization is, as usual, weak at catcher, but Conger is a very good and, at this point, underrated prospect. Look for him to break in with the big league club this year, probably around midseason. Carlos Ramirez also has some promise, especially behind the plate, but projects more as a backup.
They have two very good middle infield prospects in Jean Segura and Alexi Amarista. Segura could be a borderline star in the Ray Durham mold while Amarista projects more as a utility player or a poor man’s Placido Polanco. They have their usual assortment of light-hitting middle infield marginal prospects in Andrew Romine—possibly a Marco Scutaro-type—Darwin Perez, and the stalled Hainley Statia. I look forward to seeing what first-rounder Taylor Lindsey will do in a full season this year; his bat projects well although he may not be able to hold 2B defensively. One name in Rookie ball stands out as having some promise is Wendell Soto, but he’s just getting started. Ryan Mount and Brandon Phillips’ little brother PJ both seem to have flamed out.
As usual, the Angels don’t have much in the way of big bat corner infield prospects other than Mark Trumbo, who may be underrated at this point. He’ll be 25 next year and probably back to AAA but he really has nothing more to prove after posting a .945 OPS there last year; his plate discipline is improving and his swing isn’t as long as one might think, but his defense is weak and he has nowhere to play on the Angels unless they’re willing to have Juan Rivera ride the bench and give Napoli more time at catcher. Gabriel Jacobo seems to be another in the long tradition of Angels first base “prospects”: Robb Quinlan, Chris Pritchett, Nick Gorneault and even Casey Kotchman types: A good glove + a little bit of average + very little power + no plate discipline = minor league veteran or, at best, the last man on the bench of a major league club for a few years (e.g. Quinlan). Kole Calhoun has a great name and good plate discipline but may not have the umph to make it to the majors.
Luis Jimenez and Dillon Baird are solid 3B prospects but project more as quality regulars or bench players. Kaleb Cowart would be the top 3B prospect but he’s headed for low-A this year and we just don’t have much to go on yet.
As for the outfield, the Angels are gathering steam. Peter Bourjos is already with the big club so the next nearest prospect would be Jeremy Moore, who will play in AAA Salt Lake this year. Moore had a solid breakout campaign last year and is a bit of a sleeper pick given his tool-set, but at this point he’s still a good but not great prospect. After that you have Angel Castillo, another raw-and-toolsy outfielder probably headed for AA, Randal Grichuk whose tremendous power makes him a good prospect but whose poor plate discipline keeps him from being an elite one, and a group of lower-draft college batsmen in the low minors in Andrew Heid, Brandon Decker, and Travis Witherspoon. Heid’s bat rates as the best and is another sleeper candidate, while Witherspoon has the best overall package. Below them you have the the very raw-and-toolsy Chevez Clarke and Ryan Bolden, both of whom could turn out to be stars or flame out in the next couple years.
I’d group their prospects as follows:
Elite Prospects (Grade A- or higher): Mike Trout
Good to Very Good Prospects (Grade C+/B- to B+): Conger, Segura, Richards, Walden, Chatwood, Martinez, Grichuk, Cowart, Amarista, Trumbo, Moore
Solid Prospects (Grade C/C+): Reckling, Aldridge, Kehrer, Romine, Castillo, Clarke, Bolden, Lindsey, Tillman, Heid, Witherspoon, Decker, Jimenez, Baird, Jacobo, Kohn, Geltz, Berg, McKiernan, Bedrosian, Perez, Ramirez, Calhoun, Decker, Soto.
*John may never live down his Mathis/Mauer comparison but we all make mistakes ;-).
by Angelsjunky7 on Dec 29, 2025 8:25 PM EST reply actions
Whoops - Forgot Trout!
LOL. He doesn’t really need explanation - he’s a stud and should start in AA this year. I suspect he’ll struggle a bit but then get the hang of it and start raking at some point. I wouldn’t put it past him to get a cup o’ coffee in September, maybe even win a starting job in spring of 2012. The question is not if he’ll be good but how good. A low-end projection is Shane Victorino (.290/.350/.450 with 30 SB), a high end is Darin Erstad in 2000 with a slightly lower average but lots of walks and stolen bases (.330/.420/.550, 25 HR, 50 SB). The Angels very well might have their first perennial 3/4/5 player in….ever.
by Angelsjunky7 on Dec 29, 2025 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Erstad
seems to be a great comp! I’m surprised I never thought of that. However, aren’t you selling Trout’s possible power short? I mean, IF, and this is a big IF in my view, Trout could develop 30 HR power, aren’t we looking at CarGo with a MUCH better OPS? Isn’t that downright scary as hell?
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Dec 30, 2025 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, potentially scary
But that’s just it - it is potential at this point. With Trout’s build, discipline, and work ethic I just don’t see him having less than 20 HR power, but then again you see big guys that seem like they should have power, being light-hitting (e.g. Oakland’s Ryan Sweeney - 6’4", 225 lbs, all of 13 HR in 1382 PA).
I see Erstad + plate discipline + a bit more speed as a good comp, not just Erstad as-is. Erstad really should have been a better player, a perennial .300+ BA, 20-20 HR-SB, but I have a theory as to why he disappointed with the bat that came from a remark he once made when someone asked him what his approach at the plate was. He said, “I tinker.” Not great major league hitters “tinker.” They develop a consistent approach and adjust, but they don’t tinker. You tinker in pony league, in high school, maybe a bit in college and even in the low minors, but you don’t tinker in the majors.
Back to your point, he could develop 30 HR power but given all that he brings to the table he can still be a great player if he only hits 20-25. Here’s a threefold projection for Trout’s plateau potential (“plateau” meaning a given season during his peak, but not necessarily a career year):
Low (20%): .290/.350/.450, 15 HR, 30+ sb
Moderate (40%): .310/.400/.490, 20-25 HR, 40 sb
High (40%): .330/.420/.550, 25-30+ HR, 40+ sb
Of course that’s complete conjecture but I think gives the range of likely production for him. The good thing is that most players have low-end projections that are much worse than that.
Just for the fun, here would be my Mark Trumbo threefold projection:
Low (40%): .220/.280/.450, 25 HR
Moderate (40%): .250/.310/.500, 30 HR
High (20%): .275/.330/.540, 35 HR
These are intuitive projections and so the numbers are completely made-up with no complex sabermetric formula behind them, but I think the percentile spread gives a sense of how likely (I think) different players will be able to fulfill their ceiling potential. Trout obviously has a much better chance than Trumbo.
by Angelsjunky7 on Dec 30, 2025 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Slight adjustment
Given just how good that high projection for Trout is, I might change the percentiles to 25/50/25, with the most likely scenario being that his regular projection is the moderate projection but that he has one or two peak years like the high one.
by Angelsjunky7 on Dec 30, 2025 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Tinkering...
Tell Cal Ripken Jr. that great MLB hitters don’t tinker.
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by Franchise887 on Dec 30, 2025 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I would if...
…Cal Ripken was actually a great hitter, which he wasn’t - at least over the course of his career. He had a few great hitting seasons (’83, ’84, ’91) but his career numbers are only good to very good: .276/.340/.447 and a 112 OPS+.
If anything Ripken only further supports my point.
Now you could say that Vlad Guerrero is an example of a great hitter who went a step beyond tinkering and simply had no approach at the plate except to swing at everything. But he is an anomaly. Howie Kendrick takes a similar approach and has tremendous handeye coordination but his numbers have gradually deteriorated in the majors. Why? I think it is because he doesn’t quite make as good as contact as Vlad and doesn’t have his power, so for all those wild swings that Vlad hits out of the park or into the outfield for a single or double, Howie grounds or lines out. But I digress…
by Angelsjunky7 on Dec 30, 2025 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Mary, Jesus and Joseph you wrote a lot!
I think Bedrosian might rank higher than you place, C+ or borderline B- depending on what the scouts perceive. I think Reckling is very difficult to place as well (C+ or B-), next year will be very telling. Still young though.
Other than that, your tiers are pretty spot on and you cover all the bases. I also think Conger keeps getting criminally underrated (although not by John).
by TheQuestforMerlin on Dec 29, 2025 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, Van Mil, Bachanov, Chaffee and Chris Petit, Tyson Auer probably deserve to be lumped in with the C/C+ brigade
Three for pitching potential/stuff (Van Mil, Bachanov and Chaffee) and two (Auer and Petit) as potential 4th outfielders. Although injuries are quickly ruining Bachanov, and I hope Petit comes back from his well enough in AAA.
Maybe Roberto Lopez if he moves to C. Also Andrew Taylor (LHP reliever) has put up some good numbers the past two years, not withstanding struggling upon promotion.
by TheQuestforMerlin on Dec 29, 2025 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Good ones
I don’t know why I didn’t mention Auer or Petit, both of whom could be good DaVanon-esque 4th outfielders. At this point I don’t have a lot of hope for Bachanov and Chaffee really feel through the floor. What about Jung Il-Jung?
I also forgot about Taylor. As for Lopez, he seems to have lost his bat back in Orem. Actually he was quite good at Rancho but the fact that he couldn’t transition to AA at age 24 doesn’t bode well. Still, I think you are right that he might have a chance as a back-up catcher.
And Taylor, yes - another good relief prospect. I think the Angels have some good days ahead in the bullpen.
I was also tempted to mention James Mallard but I’m skeptical.
by Angelsjunky7 on Dec 30, 2025 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
Trumbo
you say he has nothing left to prove but I definitely think his k/BB ratio needs much improvement
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Jan 1, 2026 4:36 AM EST up reply actions
Donn Roach and Max Russell
Donn Roach: Drafted in the 3rd round of this past year’s draft. His ERA stunk and it looks like he gave up a fair number of hits, but he had a pretty solid BB/K ratio and keep the ball on the ground pretty well (5.25 GO/AO)
Max Russell: Drafted in the 4th round. Got promoted up from Orem to Cedar Rapids. Seemed to have trouble with the long ball, but got a fair amount of K’s, at least while he was in Orem.
I also agree that Bedrosian might be better than a C/C+ prospect, but it all depends on what scouts are saying as his scant pro data wasn’t very impressive.
I like Bolden’s tools, but with his problems with the bat, I’m not sure at this point that he should be included in the C/C+ range. His numbers were, to say the least, pretty ghastly
by HaloFanInDC on Dec 29, 2025 8:57 PM EST reply actions
Good spots on Roach and Russell
Roach could be interesting, I liked that draft pick
by TheQuestforMerlin on Dec 29, 2025 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Big Angels Fan
The draft was OK this year. I like Cowart, Bedrosian, Lindsey, Heid and Russel but not too happy with the others. I dont see Bolden amounting to anything and maybe Clarke could turn into something good but who knows. Lindsey IMO might have a Kipnis type bat with a better glove at 2nd, he might have been my fav pick
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by mathisrocks5 on Dec 30, 2025 4:00 AM EST reply actions
Our system has the potential to be great but could also blow up in our face. Most of them are raw with some flaws, (Trout is the exception) but they could turn into some great players. I have high hopes for them. I like Grichuk a lot, I think he will have good enough eye to be a power hitting RF with a decent glove, I love his power though, just needs some adjustments.
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by mathisrocks5 on Dec 30, 2025 4:05 AM EST reply actions
I need to believe in them because I have Trout, Segura, Richards, Trumbo, Grichuk and soon to be Cowart in my Dynasty League. LOL
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by mathisrocks5 on Dec 30, 2025 4:08 AM EST up reply actions
Hah, I have Trout, Richards and Conger…and am trying to trade for Walden
by deltarich on Dec 30, 2025 2:29 PM EST reply actions
oh yeah, i have conger too
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by mathisrocks5 on Dec 30, 2025 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
i've got Trout
and am looking into drafting Segura this year.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Dec 31, 2025 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m looking to draft Segura as well. I’ll probably try to move Conger, as I already have Posey as my catcher
by deltarich on Dec 31, 2025 5:11 AM EST up reply actions
considerations
I like Conger, I’m hopeful his minor league numbers will translate into big league success. I like Trout despite the small sample size.
I still have faith in Reckling, I think he’ll bounce back this season.
Not sure if Bourjos and Walden are still prospect eligible, but I like both of them.
Interested to see where Clayton Fuller falls. He had such speed, but it’s fallen off over the last couple seasons and last year was abysmal. Interested to see where Andrew Romine falls. Same with Jeremy Haynes. And Anton looked horrible last season, wondering where he might fall.
I can’t find Chris Pettit anywhere. Not sure what happened to him.
by Aslan on Dec 30, 2025 2:43 PM EST reply actions
Torn Labrum in Winter Ball last year
He was diving over the catcher on a play at home.
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by SalmonStream on Dec 30, 2025 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
"Not sure if Bourjos and Walden are still prospect eligible, but I like both of them."
Walden, yes; Bourjos no.
by dbreer23 on Dec 30, 2025 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
What are thoughts on Jeremy Berg
he is old for his level but has amazing numbers. Not great stuff but I could see him making a ML bullpen at some point.
by Dbullsfan on Dec 30, 2025 3:54 PM EST reply actions
i think he's a submariner with comps to Darren O'Day
go long with extenze...i do
by angelsownredsux on Jan 1, 2026 4:44 AM EST up reply actions
If they didn't have Trout, would the Angels have the worst farm system in baseball?
by I Lick Squirrels on Dec 30, 2025 9:01 PM EST reply actions
Not a chance pal
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by mathisrocks5 on Dec 31, 2025 3:19 AM EST up reply actions
Two words
Brew — errrrs
White Sox & Orioles are also very bad.
I agree the Halos have quite a bit of B / B- / C+ talent if you were to take away Trout which would be better than a handful of organizations.
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by Savoy on Dec 31, 2025 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
no way
Very few systems have a MLB ready catching prospect (that can actually catch), a relief arm that is MLB ready like Walden, not to mention the depth after that. White Sox are bad, Orioles not much better, Tigers abysmal. Nowhere near the bottom.
by Aslan on Dec 31, 2025 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Conger might not be able to catch, and relief prospects are relief prospects.
Angels - Trout would still probably be better than the White Sox and what’s left of the Brewers system, but definitely bottom 5. Most of their prospects are either role players at best, or several years away. Other than Trout, I don’t see a single potential star in the upper levels.
by I Lick Squirrels on Dec 31, 2025 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
what are you defining as a star? Angels have quite a bit of talent that is on the cusp of helping the big league team that I’m sure most other teams would gladly take. Conger has a really good bat at a thin position, Walden looks to be the Halos future closer, and guys like Chatwood/Richards/Fabio have #2 type starter stuff, if they reach their full potential. At the very least, they are quality #3 types. Segura is a guy who could leap from a B type prospect to an A grade with another solid season. We need more data on their current crop of picks from this past draft, though.
by deltarich on Jan 1, 2026 5:23 AM EST up reply actions
No way. Their farm has improved dramatically over the last couple years. They only have 1 sure fire grade A prospect(Trout) but I’d say after that they have at least 6-7 B type guys with a chance to improve into the B+/A grade. Guys like Segura is really good, and is moving to SS this year, potentially increasing his value. Conger I still like a lot. His plate discipline bodes well for his future success, and we already know he has the power potential. Walden looks like the Angels future closer. They have some real high quality arms in Chatwood, Richards and Faaaaaabio. Add in other valuable guys like an Amarista(who plays excellent D and has shown he can hit anywhere), Grichuk and Trumbo.
This farm is nowhere near the worst in baseball. I’d say it’s top 15 now, after taking a bit of a hit the last few years. They have arguably the best current prospect, plus a load of B grade types who can improve upon that grade. This doesn’t even take into account the guys they just drafted.
by deltarich on Dec 31, 2025 5:15 AM EST reply actions
Top 15 - yup
That was my assessment in my mega-post above, that they were in the 10-15 range with the chance to enter the 5-10 range if a good number of their young guys develop well.
Also, don’t forget Jeremy Moore who I would now say is a B- prospect. Maybe Kohn too.
by Angelsjunky7 on Dec 31, 2025 10:33 AM EST up reply actions

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