Some Evening Thoughts
Summarizing some thoughts this evening.
A) It's apparent that no one really knows anything, so take ANY mock drafting you see anywhere with huge grains of salt. All kinds of rumors are flying, few of them substantiated. The Rays apparently have yet to decide in their pick, and what they decide will send ripples all the way down the first round, obviously. Scenarios are fun to play with, but unless you hear or read something that comes directly from a named source within an organization, be skeptical.
B) In my Fake Twins Shadow Draft, at 14 I want a hitter and I have narrowed it down to either Brett Lawrie (as a third baseman) or Zach Collier among high school hitters, and Brett Wallace as the best college hitter. At this point I am undecided about the exact ranking of the three...and it's possible that both Lawrie and Wallace will be gone at 14, leaving me with Collier by default. Collier is a toolsy sort, but I intend to pick polished college hitting at 27 and 31, before shifting to "best available player" after that. Yes, yes, I know, don't draft for need, but I am probably going to do it anyway.
Unless I change my mind...part of me is starting to drift towards some of the intriguing arms out there...
See how hard it is to decide? Now imagine you have millions of dollars and the future of the franchise (and your job) riding on these decisions. It's no wonder things are still in such flux in the real draft rooms.
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I see Ethan Martin being the Twins selection (if he’s there).
by Smokey Joe on
Jun 5, 2025 1:15 AM EDT
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I have way too much time on my hand
well, that’s not true. More I am trying to procrastinate a bit.
Here’s my random guesses:
1. Tampa Bay - SS Tim Beckham
It’s the right move, I think. The whole “Posey is ready” is a bit overrated as well, since 2010 is likely the earliest he would be up, and at that point, the team would have some contracts expired, or expiring soon enough.
2. Pittsburgh - 3rd Pedro Alvarez
I don’t buy the “hole in swing” issue that I’ve read of late as a big issue. I think they spend to reshape the team.
3. Kansas City - 1st Eric Hosmer.
This one has smelled like Hosmer for awhile.
4. Baltimore - SP Brian Matusz
I’ve got no clue. Seems like you get a different name with every mock drafter. I think McPhail wants pitching, and I think Matusz being safer wins out.
5. San Francisco - 1st Justin Smoak
Somewhat influenced by that Buster Posey demand, as I was leaning Posey here originally. Giants break the bank for Posey? Don’t see it.
6. Florida - C Kyle Skipworth.
This one seems like it’s been set for awhile.
7. Cincinnati - SS Gordon Beckham
This one has rumors left and right as well. I’m guessing based off the Enquirer article. Beckham makes more sense than Posey, IMO.
8. Chicago White Sox - C Buster Posey
Will they shell out the money? I have no idea, but with contracts clearing, maybe (and Posey’s demand likely will come down anyways).
9. Washington Nationals - 1st Yonder Alonso
I want to lean Crow, but I can’t help but think that Alonso works so well here.
10. Houston Astros - SP Aaron Crow
College pitching, meet team needing pitching.
11. Texas Rangers - P Andrew Cashner
Sticking with that Cashner rumor, even though I think it’s foolish. foolish i say.
12. Oakland Athletics - P Aaron Hicks.
All the world’s credit to adscho, who took a tiny beating over the pick, but it seems like a lot of people are in agreement that it’s a high probability. Although I think adscho picked him as an OF.
13. St. Louis Cardinals - P Dan Sclereth
Unless I’m mistaken, they’ve gone HS in the first the last 2. Much as I think it would be difficult to pass on Friedrich here, my no knowledge mock is going to do that. Rather than going with any rumor, I’ll be crazy and guess Dan Sclereth here.
14. Minnesota Twins - SP Christian Friedrich
I don’t think they can pass on him if he is here.
15. Los Angeles Dodgers - SP Ethan Martin
Another high ceiling young arm for that system.
16. Milwaukee Brewers - Mr. I play every position Brett Lawrie (okay maybe not, but geesh, I’d be writing C/IF/OF or util, and util doesn’t do him justice)
Sounds like they want a toolsy hs kid. Toolsy hs kid - meet Milwaukee.
17. Toronto Blue Jays - 1st Brett Wallace.
Tailor made. Even JP can’t mess this one up … can he?
18. New York Mets - C Jason Castro
I’ve got no clue on the Mets. BP seems to indicate ceiling, while others have suggested that they may look for a quick move type. Castro, Weeks, or pen arm? I think Castro will be there later, but maybe they get worried about Detroit picking him?
19. Chicago Cubs - OF Zach Collier
Most indications seem to be toolsy HS kid. About the only HS guy I don’t want is Gerritt Cole. I’m not big on Hewitt either. (I’m a Cubs fan). Will we go overslot? I have my doubts. Thus, no to Kelly. Odorizzi? Melville? Collier? Hewitt? I think I prefer Odorizzi, but I think Collier is the type of guy Wilken may go for.
20. Seattle Mariners - P Ryan Perry
Did I say I know what I was doing? Everyone seems to be writing pen arm here, so what the heck, I’m going to join the fun and put Ryan Perry.
21. Detroit Tigers - P Casey Kelly
Um … to be honest, I’ve paid more attention to the top 18 (to figure out what the Cubs may do at 19). Since they are willing to spend, might they try and buy Casey Kelly from Tennessee. I would try Kelly at shortstop first, but I think they’d pick him as a pitcher.
22. New York Mets - 2nd Jemile Weeks
Well, there’s all this talk about Fields falling, so I’ll join the crew on that and go with Weeks here.
23. San Diego Padres - OF Ike Davis
They could really take anything and have it make sense. Well, anything but first base, where Adrian Gonzalez is setting the world afire, and Kyle Blanks is in AA (albeit, not slugging yet). Hewitt? Maybe, but I’ll be wild and go safe and Ike Davis as an Of. A future OF of Huffman, Hunter, Davis might be solid.
24. Philadelphia Eagles - SP Tim Melville
Falling Melville gets snapped up here.
25. Colorado Rockies - SP Jake Odorizzi
It’s like Florida and Skipworth. If it’s available, I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t happen. And it’s more than deserving.
26. Arizona Diamondbacks - P Josh Fields
I still have a hard time buying that Josh Fields is tumbling as much as people say. Might he be the closer of the future, and an asset down the stretch this year? I guess Shooter Hunt is a thought.
27. Minnesota Twins - SS Anthony Hewitt
Doesn’t this somewhat feel like a Twins pick? Maybe not. I was also thinking Galloway.
28. New York Yankees - SP Shooter Hunt.
He kept on falling. As much as other guys may tempt, I wonder if Hunt is too good to pass up here.
29. Cleveland Indians - 1st David Cooper
I can’t help but think ready, power bat here. Maybe I’m crazy.
30. Boston Red Sox - SP Gerrit Cole
Much as they make like Havens, do they roll the dice on Cole here? I can’t help but think Pawelek with Cole, btw.
31. Minnesota Twins - OF Issac Galloway
No reason. Just more because I was about to go this route with their previous pick.
32. Milwaukee Brewers - P Brett Hunter
They could use some arms to balance the hitting depth.
33. New York Mets - SP Tanner Scheppers
Does someone take a gamble higher? If so, the Mets might make sense. What do I know.
34. Philadelphia Phillies - 3rd Connor Gillaspie
Playing in that park would reduce some of the power concerns.
35. Milwaukee Brewers - P Alex Meyer
Argh, how many picks do the Brewers have. Boo, NL Central rivals. Young arm for the system.
36. Kansas City Royals - SS Reese Havens
If they think he can stick at short, maybe it’s an idea. If not, he could always give them a 2nd baseman perhaps.
37. San Francisco Giants - IF/OF James Darnell
I don’t really know what I’m doing. But well, maybe they take Smoak’s teammate and hope these two work their way up quick?
38. Houston Astros - P Brett DeVall
Them boys could use some arms.
39. St. Louis Cardinals - SS Tyler Ladendorf
Well, uh …
40. Atlanta Braves - OF Xavier Avery
Really, just trying to get to the Cubs pick and get back to work
41. Chicago Cubs - P Kyle Lobstein
I could see Niko Vazquez, who we worked out, but it sure feels like he might be there in the 2nd. I’m going with an arm, as we could use a high upside guy. This is my own personal preference, though.
by toonsterwu on
Jun 5, 2025 4:12 AM EDT
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I think the Eagles
Are looking more for a Defensive End rather than HS pitcher Tim Melville.
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by RoyalsRetro on
Jun 5, 2025 1:01 PM EDT
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Collier
I picked Collier. As more info comes in, he might have the best bat in the OF class right now and is only 17. I just think his upside/ceiling is to much to pass up for you. I’m not sold on Lawrie (although he sounds really nice) and you don’t need a 1B. I wouldn’t be upset with a pitcher depending on who it is either but Collier seems like a good pick. I was on the Hicks wagon earlier but I think it’s real close now and Collier might have an edge.
by jfish26101 on
Jun 5, 2025 4:55 AM EDT
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Hunt
If Hunt slides to them at 14, I believe the Twins should pop him (and John should as well in his shadow draft). They lack frontline starting pitching prospects, and they’ve built their team recently around pitching and defense. I know they lack impact bats in their system as well, but they just don’t spend for free agent arms (no, Ponson and Livan don’t count), so they have to have a steady stream coming through.
Hunt is the choice here.
JAS
by jasvlm on
Jun 5, 2025 7:16 AM EDT
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Interesting mock from Mayo this morning
Lawrie to Houston? Would they really pass on Crow? He suggests that Houston’s top pitching option is Cashner as well. Huh?
Oakland and Jemile Weeks? Wow.
Twins and Hicks makes sense.
Dodgers and Cashner? And the interesting blurb was … Ike Davis as a pitcher?
I think BP was one of the first to go Castro and Milwaukee, and Mayo has followed with that.
Reese Havens and the Mets make some sense if they want a ready bat. Still a bit surprising.
Twins and Brad Hand? That came out of left field.
by toonsterwu on
Jun 5, 2025 9:47 AM EDT
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BA has a new mock up this morning
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2008/266271.html
by Wheelhouse on
Jun 5, 2025 10:46 AM EDT
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wow, friedrich to the mets?
that’d be a steal for them …
by toonsterwu on
Jun 5, 2025 11:26 AM EDT
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Here's my mock
1) TB - Tim Beckham
2) PIT - Pedro Alvarez
3) KC - Eric Hosmer
4) BAL - Brian Matusz
5) SF - Justin Smoak
6) FLA - Kyle Skipworth (Yonder Alonso is a possibility, but probably too rich for their blood)
7) CIN - Gordon Beckham
8) CHW - Yonder Alonso
9) WAS - Buster Posey
10) HOU - Aaron Crow
11) TEX - Ethan Martin
12) OAK - Brett Wallace
13) STL - Christian Friedrich
14) MIN - Aaron Hicks
15) LAD - Zach Collier
16) MIL - Brett Lawrie
17) TOR - Ike Davis
18) NYM - Andrew Cashner
19) CHC - Tim Melville
20) SEA - Josh Fields
21) DET - Shooter Hunt
22) NYM - Casey Kelly
23) SD - Conor Gillaspie
24)PHI - Anthony Hewitt
25) COL - Jake Odorizzi
26) ARI - Gerrit Cole
27) MIN - Jason Castro
28) NYY - Tanner Scheppers
29) CLE - Dan Schlereth
30) BOS - David Cooper
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by parrot11 on
Jun 5, 2025 1:33 PM EDT
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