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Not a Rookie: Billy Butler

Not a Rookie: Billy Butler

Billy Butler was drafted in the first round in 2004, 14th overall, out of high school in Jacksonville, Florida. Most teams thought he was a supplemental or second round talent due to his poor defense at third base and ugly body, but the Royals insisted that it wasn't a budget pick and that his bat was exceptional. They loved his combination of bat speed and strike zone judgment. Butler's pro debut was outstanding: .373/.488/.596 in 74 games for Idaho Falls in the Pioneer League. I was impressed and gave him a Grade B+ in the 2005 book, ranking him as the 44th best hitting prospect in baseball. My theory was that the bat was real, and even if he had to move to first base that he would hit enough to justify the rating.

Butler skipped past low-level Class A in 2006, beginning the year in the California League at age 19. He hit .348/.419/.636 in 92 games for High Desert. Everyone hits at High Desert, but he was young for the level and scouts loved the bat. He hit .312/.353/.527 in a 29-game Double-A trial, showing that the Cal League numbers were not an illusion. His batting stance was a bit unusual, and defense was obviously an issue. He shows a pretty strong arm, but lack of mobility knocked him off third base. The Royals were trying him in the outfield by the end of the year. I gave him another Grade B+ and moved him up to Number 29 on the hitting prospect list.

Butler spent 2006 in Double-A, hitting .331/.388/.499 at age 20. Any doubts that scouts had about his somewhat unorthodox stance were eased. I was also very impressed by his low strikeout rate: just 67 whiffs in 477 at-bats. The attempt to make him an outfielder brought very mixed results. He worked at it, and by the end of the year his glove was rated as poor rather than really terrible. Scouts were already projecting him as a born DH, but with a bat that would give him a long career. I gave him a Grade A- and ranked him at Number Seven on the 2007 hitting list.

The plan for '07 was for him to spend most of the year in Triple-A polishing his glovework, but Kansas City's need for hitting pushed the timetable up. He hit .292/.412/.542 in 57 games for Omaha, then .292/.347/.447 in 92 games for the Royals. Obviously he's a first baseman at best, and DH work seems best suited for him.

Exactly how good can Butler be with the bat? If he continues to develop, at his peak he could be something like a cross between a healthy Mike Sweeney and Edgar Martinez, combining a high batting average, terrific plate discipline, and a high slugging percentage. I think his power production is only going to increase; he hit 23 doubles for the Royals and some of those are going to turn into homers as he matures. In the minors he showed excellent BB/K ratios (43/32 in 203 at-bats for Omaha last year) and as he gets used to the majors that will carry forward.

Some additional questions. Will he peak early? He has a "bad body" and might not age particularly well. However, his low strikeout rate is, I think, a positive marker. Many hitters with "old player" skills have high strikeout rates  to go with high walk rates, but Butler is more of a pure hitter than a slugger, and I think that will help him maintain his production assuming decent health.

As for the short run, projections for 2008:

Bill James: .297/.365/.473
Ron Shandler: 294/.364/.454
ZIPS: .288/.360/.471
Me: .293/.359/.465

All those projections show Butler adding some power this year. Certainly that can happen. But what if we see a batting average spike instead of (or even along with) a power spike? Could Butler challenge for a batting title even sooner than most people expect?

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that, barring a catastrophic injury of some sort, Butler will be an excellent major league hitter. But the exact shape of that excellence is still a question. He has the long-term ability to hit .340-.350 eventually. He could be a 30+ homer guy if he concentrates more on power at the expense of batting average. With a maximal outcome, he could do BOTH at some point.

The sky is the limit here, and it will be fun to see what happens.

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not that funny, but funny
"combining a high batting average, terrific plate discipline, and a high batting average"

What happens when you a combine a high batting average with a high batting average.... WOW that is one HIGH batting average.

I'm thinking like .470

by babaoriley7 on Feb 7, 2026 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

its not a batting average
its a batting outstanding

by nyybaseball99 on Feb 7, 2026 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

no way dude
if you combine a high batting average (say .315) with a high batting average (.330 is preeety damn high) that's got to come out to at least .645.

by wily mo on Feb 7, 2026 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a Rookie: Billy Butler
John- this "not a rookie" section is Awesome! Please keep them coming.

My concern is that a guy this young doing nothing but DHing is going to contribute to being out of shape and slower, even with the bat. At his age, I believe constant work will make him a decent fielder. Heck, he's on Kansas City, the minor league of the Majors. A good place to get a lot of work on improving his game.  

by BaseballSteve on Feb 7, 2026 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Re: not a rookie
Agreed, I think this is by far my favorite article-type on the site.  People fade from this site when they lose their eligibility, but their first few years in the majors are, in my opinion, much more interesting than their time in the minors.  
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by Jgaztambide on Feb 7, 2026 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yes.
these are awesome.  they're like book comments only 4x as long and about guys i've actually seen, and guys who aren't getting analyzed any more because WHOOPS they're not rookie-eligible any more!

of course i also like it because i have all of gallardo, butler, salty and lincecum on my fantasy team

by wily mo on Feb 7, 2026 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Great addition
I am hoping John does some on guys who maybe weren't top 40 prospects as well.

by drwmsu1 on Feb 7, 2026 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry
No matter what you think, they're trying to WIN baseball games. This "Oh he's in KC so he can do this instead" is complete BS. Again, they're trying to win baseball games, not be a developmental squad.

Yes, if he can prove he can legitimately play the position he should be allowed to play. But if he can't even play a "below average" first base, then no.

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by doublestix on Feb 7, 2026 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Right on!
This "why aren't the Royals acting in the best interest of other real teams" attitude drives me to rage.  

The Royals are very capable of posting a winning record in 2008.  Butler was only one of four outstanding rookies playing for KC last year, joining Bannister, Soria and Gordon.

Talent is flowing into KC over the last two years, not the other way.

by James Quinn on Feb 8, 2026 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope...
The Royals continue to push him at 1B... There is no reason for them to 'settle' for him at DH this year.  let him play 1B everyday, and see how it goes... who knows, he may surprise them and learn it...

perhaps he has a 'bad' glove because he hasn't been allowed to stay at a position for very long...

I love this kids bat though...

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by dbimberg on Feb 7, 2026 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

I don't subscribed to this thinking
"he hit 23 doubles for the Royals and some of those are going to turn into homers as he matures."

Can they turn into homers? sure.  ARE they? I don't think you can say difinitively.  I think the chances are more likely when you talking about a young physically immature player, but I think Butler is about as big as he is going to get, isn't he?  A little bit of a homer review in opinion.  I like Butler, but I still have questions.....questions that can be easily answered in short order but still.

My point is, if they DON'T turn into homers, where does he go from there?  I'm not sure a sub 800 OPS with no speed plays at DH for very long.

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by HuskerBob on Feb 7, 2026 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Every prospect has question marks
I think you are being a little tough on the kid, Bob.  In 680 ABs between AA and AAA the last 2 years, he knocked in 142 runs, and he was a little young for those leagues.  Even if he came up to the batter's box using crutches, they would put a bat in his hands.

by Yoda on Feb 7, 2026 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i know, seriously
he was 21 years old.  is he pretty mature for 21?  sure.  does that mean that 8 HR is 350 PA at age 21 is his power ceiling?  no.  power development doesn't just come from growing hair on your chest.  it's also from game experience and skill development, a process he's only just begun at the highest level.  and anyway, i think it's obvious that he's overwhelmingly likely to break an .800 OPS as soon as next year even with no change in his double/homer ratio.  i'm not saying he has zero bust potential, but overall i think that was a pretty silly remark.

by wily mo on Feb 7, 2026 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Alot of the same things
were said about Sean Burroughs and turning doubles into homers.
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by HuskerBob on Feb 7, 2026 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Just real quick...
... Butler has shown HR power in the minors.

That is more applicable to a guy like Mauer than a guy like Butler.

by grozzy on Feb 7, 2026 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

sure
sean burroughs and every other hitting prospect.  everyone remembers sean burroughs precisely because his outcome was so bizarre.  and anyway,

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Billy-Butler.shtml

butler yearly HR totals: 10, 30, 15, 21
lowest minor-league SLG: .499

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Sean-Burroughs.shtml

burroughs yearly HR totals: 6, 2, 9, 3
highest minor-league SLG: .479

similarity index: "low"

by wily mo on Feb 7, 2026 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

+1
very well said and shown.

you make a good point though too -- Burroughs is sort of the anti-Maddux for irritating player comps.

by bleedjaxblue on Feb 7, 2026 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Great
Not the point I was making but your response is valid. Re-read my post.

My post was specifically in reference to the thinking that doubles automatically turn into more homers as a player matures.  Like you said, this same line was used for Burroughs and countless other prospects.  It doesn't always hold true. If Butler posts a ML OPS anywhere near 8 balls his career path is going to very different from the one John suggests.

An alternate ending would be Mark Grace circa 1991 when after hitting over .300 with an OPS around 800 the Cubs told him he needed to hit for more power.  He went on to hit .273 that year.  Luckily for him he recovered.  Grace had the gold glove defense to fall back on to add to his value.  Butler will most definitely have to produce power numbers.

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by HuskerBob on Feb 8, 2026 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you might be a little too concerned with
his first 300 AB in the majors. In his previous 203 ABs in AAA he hit 13 home runs. Two years earlier he hit 30 HRs. Against that, there are those 300 ABs, where, admittedly, he hit only 8 homers. Yet in that time he also hit 23 doubles and 2 triples as a 21 year old playing in the majors for the first time. You are correct that he could become a Mark Grace or a Sean Burroughs, but that's not remarkably likely.

by OldProspects on Feb 8, 2026 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

sure
i actually sort of agree with you that the doubles-to-homers line is overused, but at the same time i do think there's also quite a bit of truth to it in the sense that power does tend to develop for young players.  as butler settles in with major-league pitching he should start driving balls farther.  the thing with burroughs is he never really had fence-clearing power at all; his doubles were probably almost all balls down the line and in the gap.  butler has already shown he can reach the seats fairly regularly.

i do think it's quite possible that he's more of an edgar (45 doubles + 25 homers) than a manny.  but i don't think his power is going to be a problem.

by wily mo on Feb 8, 2026 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

+1
I agree almost completely. I too think the "doubles when young = homers when older" argument is overused. That is too much of a blanket assumption. It does show that he is capable of making solid contact, but you'd really need a breakdown of how he is hitting his doubles. Are they just liners down the 1B and 3B sides? Are they gappers placed just right? Or is he actually hitting them deep into the outfield? Not all doubles are created equally.
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by Boxkutter on Feb 8, 2026 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Question:
What's the difference between Butler and Barton? Both are poor fielding 1B at best, both have the ability to hit for high average, but have questionable power. I guess Butler has more "upside"  in the power department, but these two seem like very similar players, right?
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by Boxkutter on Feb 7, 2026 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

the difference
Is that Butler's power is not questionable.
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by doublestix on Feb 7, 2026 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

And
Butler hit for better average in home parks that were tougher on hitters at the same age for considerably more power.  Until last year, Barton also walked more to somewhat offset it.  They have similar profiles, but saying Butler projects to be a better hitter is an easy call.
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by Brickhaus on Feb 7, 2026 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

differences
  1. barton is a lefty
  2. barton walks much more often
  3. barton's defense is merely poor, as opposed to "horrible" or "nonexistent"
against that,
  1. butler is bigger and stronger
  2. butler has shown more power so far
who's better? not clear to me. butler's main advantage is a really important advantage--power is hugely important, especially on that side of the defensive spectrum. but i think barton will put up higher OBPs and won't be limited to DH. so if they both

by jpahk on Feb 7, 2026 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Butler
may be a terrible first basemen, but Barton is far from that. They are two very different players and hitters.

by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 7, 2026 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the Not-a-Prospects!
John, I've been waiting for something like this for a long time. Too often, once a player ceases to be a prospect technically, I cannot find any information on him. These are great additions to my fantasy draft planning, thanks! How about Felix Pie? MD

by DMB Grays on Feb 8, 2026 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

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