Bret Saberhagen Prospect Retro
Bret Saberhagen was drafted in the 19th round in 1982, out of high school in Northridge, California. A shortstop/pitcher in high school, he was well-regarded as an athlete, but worries about a sore arm kept him out of the early rounds of the draft.
He made his pro debut in 1983, going 10-5, 2.30 in 16 starts for Fort Myers in the Florida State League, with an 82/19 K/BB in 110 innings. Promoted to Double-A in July, he went 6-2, 2.91 in 11 starts. This was stunning performance for a 19 year old making his pro debut. He impressed everyone with his command of above-average stuff (92-93 fastball, good breaking stuff) and his composure that was well ahead of his years. I'd say you'd have to give him a Grade A- rating at a minimum, and maybe even a straight Grade A.
To go from a 19th round pick who signed late and had injury worries to Top Ten Pitching Prospect in one season was a precursor of things to come.
Sabes made the major league roster out of spring training in 1984. Used as a swingman, he went 10-11, 3.48 in 158 innings (20 relief outings, 18 starts), at age 20. His strikeout rate was rather low, with a 73/36 K/BB, but given his age this was hardly a major flaw. The following year he went 20-6, 2.87 and won the Cy Young Award at age 21, the youngest player so honored.
Saberhagen had problems staying healthy after his mid-20s, and at times he was erratic. But overall he was a very impressive pitcher, dominant at his best with exquisite command of above-average stuff. He finished 167-117 with a 3.34 ERA and ERA+ of 126. Lack of durability keeps him from Hall of Fame consideration, but his peak seasons were impressive indeed. Not bad at all for a 19th round pick. It's interesting to note that while the scouts were right in one way (injuries were a problem), every team had to be kicking themselves for letting him slip so long in the draft.
Complete list of pitchers drafted in the first round in 1982:
Jimmy Jones, RHP, Padres (high school, Texas)
Bryan Oelkers, LHP, Twins (Wichita State)
Dwight Gooden, RHP, Mets (high school, Florida)
Bob Kipper, LHP, Angels (high school, Illinois)
Duane Ward, RHP, Braves (high school, New Mexico)
Mark Snyder, RHP, Indians (high school, Tennessee)
Rob Parkins, RHP, Red Sox (high school, California)
Rich Monteleone, RHP, Tigers (high school, Florida)
Todd Worrell, RHP, Cardinals (Biola College)
Scott Jones, LHP, Reds (high school, Illinois)
Billy Hawley, RHP, Reds (high school, South Carolina)
Joe Kucharski, RHP, Orioles (University of South Carolina)
The only one of those guys who was in Saberhagen's class was Gooden, who won 194 games but who had his own set of issues.
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Correction
by Con on Apr 16, 2025 11:53 AM EDT 0 recs
Thanks
by itshissong on Apr 16, 2025 12:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Huh
If Felix wins it this year, would he be the youngest winner?
by Fett42 on Apr 16, 2025 2:16 PM EDT 0 recs
Looking at it
Felix was born April 8th and just turned 21, so he has a chance at being the youngest ever... might be a bit difficult with Mr. Santana however.
by Fett42 on
Apr 16, 2025 2:19 PM EDT
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Dr. K
Sabes eliminated Tarzana LL by throwing a no-hitter and getting the lone hit - hitting a solo shot off my brother. He was the Kelly Leak of the San Fernando Valley.
by Con on
Apr 16, 2025 4:35 PM EDT
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Scratch that
by Con on
Apr 16, 2025 4:50 PM EDT
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I checked the dates
by Fett42 on
Apr 16, 2025 5:35 PM EDT
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1985 Cy Young Award Winners
Saberhagen was born 4/11/64
Gooden is about 6 months younger. Amazing achievements.
by Con on
Apr 16, 2025 6:15 PM EDT
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Duane Ward was no Saberhagen but...
by Mike Green on Apr 16, 2025 3:07 PM EDT 0 recs
Amazing
It's interesting to see how much the game has changed since then. Obviously he was a special talent, but I can't envision any prep pitcher spending just one year in the minors, no matter how fantastic he pitches.
by eazyb81 on Apr 16, 2025 4:27 PM EDT 0 recs
This guy says hi
Reached AA in his first full pro season, then took a whole 6 starts to get to the majors in his second.
Lots of similarities between these two, obviously.
by mrkupe on
Apr 16, 2025 5:36 PM EDT
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I would love to see
by PolkCountyRay on Apr 16, 2025 5:01 PM EDT 0 recs
Long relief "swing man"rookie year
by gashousegang on Apr 16, 2025 6:07 PM EDT 0 recs
Only problem with this
Otherwise, I totally agree. It's a great way to break a new guy in.
by mrkupe on
Apr 16, 2025 7:32 PM EDT
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And yet...
by calig23 on
Apr 16, 2025 10:24 PM EDT
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+1
by count sutton on
Apr 16, 2025 8:01 PM EDT
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Saberhagen's rookie year
by BIgMax on Apr 16, 2025 6:42 PM EDT 0 recs
Saberhagen
- 257 IP
- 260 2/3 IP
- 262 1/3 IP
by count sutton on Apr 16, 2025 8:05 PM EDT 0 recs
Smart Strategy
In most cases, the effects from all the wear and tear won't show up until the player has moved on from his original team.
by eazyb81 on
Apr 17, 2025 9:52 AM EDT
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currently a High School coach
by Sospiro0 on Apr 16, 2025 9:01 PM EDT 0 recs
Gubicza is at Chatsworth
by gashousegang on
Apr 17, 2025 6:16 PM EDT
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I remember
by Bleho65 on Apr 17, 2025 1:16 AM EDT 0 recs
has there been a doc gooden retro?
by DavidWrightismyGod on Apr 18, 2025 1:04 AM EDT 0 recs
At his best Sabes was fantastic.
by fishtaco20 on Apr 18, 2025 3:59 PM EDT 0 recs




