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Top 20 Indians PRE-SEASON Prospects in Review

Top 20 PRE-SEASON Indians Prospects in Review

    This is the PRE-SEASON list. That means it was generated BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED and that the grades were PRE-SEASON. Anyone complaining about the grades based on 2006 performance will be smacked up the side of the head with a Scott Pratt autographed bat.

1) Andy Marte, 3B, Grade A
      Doing better now after a poor May, hitting .271/.333/.464 with 13 homers and 20 doubles for Triple-A Buffalo. How much longer will he be in the minors?

2) Jeremy Sowers, LHP, B+
     7.47 ERA in his first three starts. He'll improve but like most finesse pitchers he will need adjustment time.

3) Fernando Cabrera, RHP, B+
     6.46 ERA in 27 games for the Indians, 33/20 K/BB in 31 innings. Command has really slipped this year, bloating his ERA. He is better than this but probably not as good as he looked last year.

4) Stephen Head, 1B, B+
     Hitting .210/.287/.340 for Class A Kinston. 31/42 BB/K mark in 300 at-bats is very good actually, a low strikeout rate and decent walks, but everything else is weak. Have to wonder if there is an injury of some sort here.

5) Brad Snyder, OF, B
    Hitting .267/.344/.411 for Double-A Akron, 37/96 BB/K in 341 at-bats. Some pop to go with 11 steals, but strikeout rate is way too high.

6) Ryan Garko, 1B, B
    Hitting .256/.360/.446 for Buffalo, 13 homers. He is capable of better and I think a breakthrough is possible next year.

7) Trevor Crowe, OF, B
     Hitting  a combined .328/.442/.466 with 31 steals in 64 games between Class A Lake County, Class A Kinston, and Double-A Akron. Lots of speed, gap power, high OBP. A very fine player.

8) John Drennen, OF, B
    Hitting .320/.410/.482 in 62 games for Lake County. Looks solid to me, home run power should increase down the line.

9) Adam Miller, RHP, B-
     8-5, 3.75 in 15 starts for Akron, 91/27 K/BB in 96 innings. Pitching pretty well, best news is that he is healthy and has his velocity back after '05 elbow trouble.

10) Andrew Brown, RHP, B-
       2.20 ERA in 49 innings for Buffalo, 42/33 K/BB. Good stuff, hard to hit, control is still an issue.

11) Chuck Lofgren, LHP, B-
     11-3, 1.95 in 16 starts for Kinston, 81/33 K/BB in 88 innings, 63 hits and just ONE homer allowed. Look for him to jump up the lists quickly this fall.

12) Ryan Mulhern, 1B, B-
      Hitting .264/.338/.413 for Akron. Numbers OK but not stellar for a corner player. Strikeout rate is high.

13) Edward Mujica, RHP, B-
      Sleeper prospect. Check this out: 19 innings with zero earned runs in Double-A. 20 innings with zero earned runs in Triple-A. Now has 8 shutout innings so far in the majors. Umm....that's pretty good, I'd say. He hasn't gotten much attention yet but that MUST change. I'd pick him up.

14) Kevin Kouzmanoff, 3B, B-
      Injuries have limited him to 53 games for Akron, but he's hitting .419/.472/.660. No he won't keep that up, but he is a legitimate hitter who could hit .280 in the majors with good pop.

15) Kelly Shoppach, C, C+
      Hit .282/.356/.538 in 21 games for Buffalo, plus 10-for-34 (.294/.368/.441) in 14 games for the Indians. Needs playing time and should do well when he gets it.

16) Mike Aubrey, 1B, C+
      Hitting .278/.385/.537 between Akron and Kinston, though injury problems have limited him to just 14 games.

17) Fausto Carmona, RHP, C+
      4.08 ERA in 20 games, 31/13 K/BB in 40 innings. I have never been a huge fan but it looks like he is doing better than I expected, and positioning himself for further success.

18) Tony Sipp, LHP, C+
      3.03 ERA in 33 innings for Akron, 44/14 K/BB ratio.

19) Generalissimo Ben Francisco, OF, C+
       Hitting .279/.341/.443 in 85 games for Buffalo, 10 homers, 17 steals. Sleeper prospect with some power/speed potential.

20) Nick Weglarz, 1B, C+
      Just one game so far in the Gulf Coast League, went 0-for-2 with two strikeouts.

Comment:
    Although the major league club is not doing as well as expected, I still think there is considerable reason for optimism. There are success stories on the farm. Crowe, Lofgren, Miller, and Mujica are bright spots. . .Shoppach looks good too, and I think Sowers will adjust. Kouzmanoff and Aubrey can hit when healthy. But what is up with Stephen Head?
     Between the Tigers, White Sox, Indians, and Twins, the AL Central should be a terrific division over the next few years .The Royals have an intriguing offensive core coming up but need to find pitching to compete. Will anyone be able to run away with his division and win consistently over the next few years? Or will we see a free-for-all high-talent bloodbath?

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Head
In looking at his total line to date, it looks like he has a BABIP of only about .220!!!  Since the ExBH are still over 33%, I don't think he is just slapping at the ball.  He may have just hit in incredibly bad luck the first half [a typical .320 or so in BABIP would put his BA around .290 I think - my math could be real bad here, help me out].

by JimBeau on Jul 13, 2025 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

hey john
there's not too much out there about lofgren...do you know what his stuff is like?  how good is his fastball?

by Dfarth on Jul 13, 2025 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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I've heard his fastball is solid for a lefty but not much more than that. Plus change. Throws both a slider and a curve that show potential but need improvement.

Off the top of my head, he sounds similar to Chuck James but doesn't induce as many flyballs and gives up fewer HRs. If he's that type of pitcher, he should be a pretty good arm.

by mrkupe on Jul 13, 2025 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lofgren
Lofgren's fastball usually sits anywhere between 88-93mph as he usually adds and subtracts. His fastball has been clocked as high as 96mph previously

by Tribefan on Jul 13, 2025 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

A revised Indians top 10 right now would look like
1- Marte
2- Miller
3- Crowe
4- Lofgren
5- Drennen
6- Lewis
7- Snyder
8- Cabrera, A
9- Gutierrez
10- Aubrey (when healthy all he does is hit but he can never stay healthy, sadly)

by Tribefan on Jul 13, 2025 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Garko
Is he not considered a prospect by you or is he just outside the top 10?
Waiting for Travis Buck

by Furious George on Jul 13, 2025 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kouzy
Is Kouzy's health really that big of a concern that he's not in the Top 10?

by elephunkadelic on Jul 13, 2025 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts on your list!
Hello tribefan,

Thanks for the update on Lofgren's velocity; I knew he threw mid-90s at one time and thought he still did, but I guess he just dials it up there once in a while if need be.  89-93 MPH still isn't bad, especially with the results he's gotten at High-A at the young age of 20.

As for your revised Top 10 List, a pretty good list.  Two minor disagreements:

1. I might have Gutierrez ahead of Snyder; granted, Snyder may be displaying more pop, but Gutierrez's strike zone judgment is much better than Snyder, and that's one level up.  On top of that, Gutierrez is only 23, Snyder is actually 24.  Plus, some reports (especially from Baseball America) seem to think as Gutierrez becomes more comfortable with his new swing and his new approach at the plate, he may hit for more power than he is currently showing.

One report even had him hitting 40 HRs; I'm not sure I believe he will show that much power, but 20-25 HRs may not be out of the question for him.  Combine that with a .270-.300+ AVG and I would think that potential would put Gutierrez higher on the list than Brad Snyder, who I hope still turns out, but am having more doubts about him, since he was supposed to be handling AAA right now, but still can't get a total grasp on AA because of his weak plate discipline.

The other disagreement is about Michael Aubrey.  While I hope he becomes a productive MLer, I have serious doubts about him becoming one with all of his injuries, especially his back injuries.

I'd actually put Kouzmanoff in the #10 spot on your list - similar injury history to Aubrey, though not as severe or extensive as Aubrey, plus has hit over .300 at every level of the Minors, plus has handled AA, something Aubrey hasn't done yet.  

Plus, Kouzmanoff has been blocked by Corey Smith, Pat Osborn, and Andy Marte over the last three years, which partly explains why he wasn't advanced more quickly, even though his performance at each level seems to indicate he should have.  Aubrey, on the other hand, was the frontrunner to become the future 1B of the Indians, ahead of Ryan Mulhern, Stephen Head, and even Ryan Garko at one time.  Garko has surpassed him, while Mulhern and Head have been more healthy than Aubrey has been.  

So, in essence, Aubrey lost his hold on the job of being the Indians' future 1B because of his injuries, while Kouzmanoff was blocked by several prospects who were highly regarded at one time or another, but has overcome two of the three, with only Marte still blocking him.

Even though Kouzmanoff is 9 months older than Aubrey, being that he has handled AA already and has a slightly better injury history than Aubrey and has improved his prospect value in the organization, I'd probably rank Kouzmanoff ahead of Aubrey.  I feel more confident Kouzmanoff will be a more productive MLer than Aubrey at this point due to Aubrey's continuous injuries and lack of progression due to those injuries.

Just my 2 cents.

Still, a very good effort on your list! :-)

Take care and have a great day!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 13, 2025 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Carmona
That 4.08 ERA is solid.  However, consider his ERA as a starter was 7.94 in 17 IP.  Since he has moved to the pen, he has thrown 22.2 innings and his ERA is 1.19, 21 Ks, and 7 BBs.  He has positioned himself to take over for Wickman next year as closer for the Indians.

by Fundamentals on Jul 13, 2025 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Garko & Kouz
I like both guys and they both would be in my 11-15 range but with Garko the problem is no clear position on the field, he's lone asset is his bat with Kouz its a combo of age, injuries and where's he going to play - But yeah both guys can rake.

by Tribefan on Jul 14, 2025 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Additional thoughts on John's List!
Hello everyone,

Regarding Carmona, I think his increase in velocity to the mid-90s has really helped him strike out more guys than expected, plus enable him to keep opposing hitters from doing too much against his stuff.  Plus, he has kept his walk rate down as his Minor League numbers suggested he would (may that continue.)  That's why I think the Indians are seriously considering him for the closer's role, along with Cabrera if he can regain his mechanics (I think the lack of a real Spring Training due to the WBC really messed him up, in my opinion.)

Regarding Weglarz, he just had surgery on his hamate bone in his wrist and could be gone the rest of the season (4-8 weeks.)  Supposedly, he's had trouble with curveballs because he hadn't seen many advanced ones while playing in Canada, but once he figures them out, I think BA was the one who said that he could be a pretty good prospect.

In fact, if I recall correctly, I think he hit 8 HRs in fewer ABs last year than John Drennen or his walk rate was slightly better than Drennen's (don't remember which it was, and thebaseballcube.com doesn't show Weglarz's stats from last year,) all while being a year younger than Drennen, so I certainly think he is one to keep an eye on in the future, since he'll only be 19 next season.

Also realize that Franklin Gutierrez has made significant progress this year and was even getting in a good hitting groove with the Indians.  He was sent back to AAA Buffalo today to make room for Blake, as well as to prevent possible Super-2 arbitration status, but it's likely he'll be back up in a few weeks, probably after a position player or two is traded by the end of July.

So, I definitely agree with John that the Indians' future still seems bright, despite the disappointing 2006 performance from the parent Indians.  The AL Central should certainly be very interesting over the next several years with likely 4, maybe 5, teams battling it out for one or maybe two playoff spots.  Should be fun to watch. :-)

Just my 2 cents.

Take care and have a great day!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 13, 2025 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Carmona's starter ERA!
Hello Fundamentals,

You beat me by about a minute in regards to Carmona possibly becoming the future closer of the Indians - nice job! :-)

Regarding Carmona's high starter ERA, I'm not sure that's truly commensurate with his true abilities; after all, he only made three starts, one very good start against Detroit and two rather poor ones against Baltimore and Texas, so I wouldn't totally count him out as a future starter yet, either, and I don't think the Indians are, but being that there are more doubts about Fernando Cabrera and Andrew Brown in regards to their command, I think that's why Carmona is being more strongly considered as a closer or late bullpen guy at this point.

Keep in mind that Sowers' ERA after three starts isn't great after one good start (NYY,) one so-so start (CIN,) and one bad start (BAL,) leading to a 7.47 ERA, but I think most still expect him to be a solid #3 starter, maybe a #2 guy (ala Jamie Moyer,) in the MLs after more adjustment.  I'm sure Carmona could do better than that high starter ERA if given more time to adjust to the Majors as well.

Just my 2 cents. :-)

Take care and have a great day!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 13, 2025 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Aubrey
I know at the rate he is going he will be lucky to make the majors by the time he is 30, but actually he seemed to show during the brief time he played this year that he still has some skills.  Is there any expectation that he will return this year, or was that probably his last appearance as a professional?

by BERSMR on Jul 14, 2025 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

He's still a professional at this point!
Hello BERSMR,

As far as I know, Aubrey hasn't called it quits, though I can imagine how frustrating it must be for him to continue missing time.  He's tried everything for his back, from rehab and core strengthening exercises to yoga (a suggestion his wife made and something that did help for a while, but didn't solve the back problem entirely either.)  Then when the back isn't bothering him, he injures a knee sliding into second base.

As far as I know, he's still rehabbing and on the Akron roster (I think.)

I agree with you that he still showed some good hitting skills at Kinston and even at Akron, but with his constant injuries, he hasn't been able to play for an extended period of time in order for him to master AA.  He barely is healthy long enough to show that he is getting in a good groove at AA Akron, but then he becomes injured again and has to start over into getting into a good groove again.

At this rate, as I've said before, if he can become a productive ML player, I'll consider it a bonus, but at this point, I have serious doubts whether he'll be able to stay healthy enough in order to be a productive ML player.  

I have a bit more faith in Kouzmanoff's ability to stay healthy, since he was healthy for most of this season and has shown that he can handle AA and is ready for AAA.  Just hopefully, he can stay healthy and be productive, like he has for most of this season.  

Just my 2 cents. :-)

Take care and have a great weekend!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

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