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Discussion: Winning the Big Game

I ask variations on this question every year, but it always generates a good discussion.

Question: You are the Philadelphia Phillies and it is the Seventh Game of the World Series against the Boston Red Sox. You are at home in Philadelphia. To start the game, you have to pick one pitcher out of the minor leagues, from any organization, who has NEVER pitched higher than High-A. It cannot be someone drafted in 2011. Your bullpen is burned out, so you need this guy to actually pitch well: you can't pull some sort of stunt like having the guy pitch one inning and then bring in someone else. You do have your closer available, but the middle and long relief corps is depleted.

Who do you pick to start the game?

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Taijuan Walker

He’s got plus stuff and good enough command where he could probably get through a lineup two plus times. He’s fairly polished and should give you as good a chance as anyone below AA.

by seabass on Aug 31, 2025 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't throw Walker out there

I’d want an older, more advanced arm with good command. Command and pitchability are more important than raw stuff when making the immediate transition to the majors.

I’m thinking I would pick Sammy Solis. He hasn’t walked any batters in his last three outings.

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by OremLK on Aug 31, 2025 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

unless you consider the AFL as above High-A ball. he started the champiopnship game last year

by 3b11 on Aug 31, 2025 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chad Bettis

He’s pitched fantastic in the California League this season and has even been more impressive since the All-Star break: 8-1, 2.56 ERA, 1.58 GO, 87/19 K/BB.

by RedHopeful on Aug 31, 2025 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking Walker also

Sampson
Nicolino
Syndergaard
Cabrera

Are all guys I’d considered, too.

by High and Inside on Aug 31, 2025 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Chris Hernandez (Salem)

Let me hit my logic, as hes hardly an elite prospect.

First, Innings, hes at 120ish, meaning hes probably got a little juice left in the arm if need be for a playoff appearance

Second, you want to, in this scenario, limit damage more then ask for a shut out/strike out guy. Hernadez is a lefty, and a pretty impressive ground ball pitcher (2.00 go/ao this year). The walks aren’t ideal, but they are hardly extreme, He is allowing an opposing BA of .213 with runners on. The Red Sox two best hitters, Ellsbury and Gonzalez hit significantly worse against lefties.

Point is, if Im the Phillies, Im not hoping for a brilliant debut by a stud flamethrower, Im looking for a guy that can go 6-7 innings, keep us close and hope that the offense can win it.

by ADLC on Aug 31, 2025 10:27 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'd take Trevor May

lefty with strikeout stuff would be my guy to trot out against a team who’s never seen him before. (plus he’s already in the system!)

by PrincetonCubs on Aug 31, 2025 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

gah, righty

brain fart

by PrincetonCubs on Aug 31, 2025 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats actually who I was thinking too.

by philiafan14364 on Aug 31, 2025 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

But only because I was considering guys in the Phils farm system exclusively.

by philiafan14364 on Aug 31, 2025 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bettis or Workman

Chad Bettis has been great this year…

And I’d just have a hunch with Brandon Workman, I guess. Has the arm to go deep…and the Phillies wanted him 4 years ago! :-p

by BobbyS on Aug 31, 2025 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I looked at Bettis as a righty option

but that 164 innings just scared me off. I’m hardly a “baby your pitchers” guy, but thats a big first year for a hard throwing college reliever, with a couple starts to go.

by ADLC on Aug 31, 2025 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed…. but if it’s in the 7th game, and his arm is feeling good, showed no real signs of fatigue… I’d have to consider him as an option

by BobbyS on Aug 31, 2025 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

My gut would still go with Workman….though you can make the case that he’s approaching his limit as well for his first year.

by BobbyS on Aug 31, 2025 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Always an interesting question, logically.

Do you want someone with the stuff to get MLB hitters out (Carlos Martinez) with the concern that he could blow up and walk the ball park? Or do you want someone who will strikes - a Gorski type.

Personally, I’ll take Martinez over the field. Best case he shuts them down, worst case you have to pull him after he blows up.

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by JD Sussman on Aug 31, 2025 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

martinez was the first name to come to my mind, too. i do like bettis, as well.

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by huckleberry on Sep 2, 2025 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would go with Nicolino from the Jays

The control is major league quality and i’d expect him to keep it relatively close.

by TtD on Aug 31, 2025 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Enny Romero, although his control could be an issue

he has the stuff that could challenge some hitters in the majors.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 31, 2025 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking Gerrit Cole maybe

he rose to the occasion in the CWS a year ago

by son.of.sourman on Aug 31, 2025 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

no

you can’t pick a guy drafted in 2011

by John Sickels on Aug 31, 2025 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take a guy who's already a Philly

Julio Rodriguez

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by Archie A on Aug 31, 2025 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Julio Rodriguez

I agree with Archie A.

by tgd10 on Aug 31, 2025 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finishing strong despite 60 inning jump.

TWalker and CMartinez have already been shut down so shouldn’t count imo

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by chewbalka on Aug 31, 2025 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see taking Julio, though I’m not sure if his fastball command would hold up. I would probably go with Trevor May over him, because May has a special fastball with good command. I think he could good out there and hold his own for one game against batters who hadn’t seen him.

Another good candidate would be Jameson Taillon. He has more control than command at this point, but I think his stuff is good enough to keep an unfamiliar lineup off-balance.

by limozeen on Aug 31, 2025 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

May

i would throw trevor may because his dominance factor is off the charts and he can slow the sox down

by Dillon Schmanek on Aug 31, 2025 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

You should have asked this 2 weeks ago

because the slam dunk answer would have been Trevor Bauer, hands down

by ScottAZ on Aug 31, 2025 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't have been drafted in 2001

was one of the parameters, so him and Cole would not been an option.

by High and Inside on Aug 31, 2025 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't have been drafted in 2001?

I guess that rules out Don Levinski.

by Matt0330 on Aug 31, 2025 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was my first thought as well

him or Cole, but, as was mentioned, the 2011 draft guys are out.

by pack_fan on Aug 31, 2025 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buckel...

But I am a Buckel homer (yet a Ranger-hater). I don’t see him going more than 5 or 6 innings though.

by Boxkutter on Aug 31, 2025 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Jameson

Taillon.

 He has the present fastball/curveball combo that if his command is solid that day he could get through 5 or 6 innings giving up only a few runs with a bit of luck.

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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 31, 2025 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought about him, but the problem is

How many times has Taillon gotten to 5 innings this year in the first place? I’m sure it’s not for lack of ability, but still.

by mrkupe on Aug 31, 2025 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid

point, but I’m assuming we’ve thrown caution to the wind as far as “protecting” his arm. Plus, he’s thrown more than 5 or 6 innings many, many times in high school, so I’m sure he could “last” 5 innings.

His arm would probably explode after, but whatever.

There are many great options though (great being a relative term); I’m sure a few might be better than Taillon.

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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 31, 2025 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't concerned about the health factor, actually

Taillon hasn’t had the chance to go through a pro lineup three or four times on a consistent basis, and he’s mostly been a two pitch guy this year. I was taking it more from a performance perspective.

Indeed he threw more than 5-6 innings/start in high school, but that was high school. No comparison to any level of the minors, let alone the majors. The stress of pitching against pro competition, the low margin for error, the difficulty of the ABs the player has to work through, all of these things (among other factors) mean that 5 HS innings and 5 innings at any level of the pros are virtually incomparable.

If the exercise was to find a player who could work 1-3 innings, Taillon would have to be near or at the top of the list. But considering that we’re looking for a player who needs to be able to put up a quality outing of 5-7 innings, I think we need to look towards a player who has a more effective mix. Considering it’s an A ball pitcher, I don’t think it’s reasonable to assume that the player we choose is capable of pitching at the peak of his ability every at bat. He’s going to get hit and he’ll probably make mistakes, so the key is to find a player who has decent stuff to get through once with the makeup, pitchability and/or pitch depth to compensate for the foreseeable situations in which things do not go as planned.

by mrkupe on Aug 31, 2025 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very

good points.. It’s a shame Deck McGuire just got promoted. He’d seem like a good candidate.

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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 31, 2025 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

innings

Is there a player of recent memory who has been babied like Tailon this year? It is an honest question and I would like to know if there is anyone. He is a big, strong, healthy kid who should certainly be able to go 7. It is almost like they are developing him as a middle reliever.

by huztler on Sep 1, 2025 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not the best canidate, but I think Jake THompson could do well.

Solid command, two plus pitches, and fairly polished. He doesn’t know how to strike guys out, but if he did, he would be past A+.

by mr. maniac on Aug 31, 2025 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Zach Wheeler

with the new/ re found command recently could possibly get through the Sox lineup 2×.

by thehitonecafe on Aug 31, 2025 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

my short list

You’re in Philly and Boston can hit, so you really need a player to keep the ball on the ground. NL park, so Ortiz plays 1B and Gonzalez plays RF. That leaves two OF slots open for Crawford, Reddick, Ellsbury. Ellsbury is obviously in, so that leaves a choice between Crawford or Reddick. Considering Crawford has been terrible against LH pitching this year, I’ll assume that if I start a LH pitcher, he will sit in place of Reddick. Starting a LH pitcher also takes some of Ellsbury’s bat away and makes Salty a zero. On the downside, Pedroia and Lowrie crush LH pitching. If I take a LHP (and I probably should), he absolutely must have a quality changeup. Pedroia will gladly work a walk, but let’s not give it to him and instead try to find a player who won’t just give up a free pass.

From where I’m sitting, the two guys who best fit the criteria would be Sammy Solis (WAS) and Edwar Cabrera (COL).

by mrkupe on Aug 31, 2025 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Impressed

Good detail in this answer. That makes it more fun.

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by journeymen on Sep 1, 2025 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

My chances of being on the mound in the seventh game of the WS this year are about the same as slumping LHH rookie Josh Reddick’s chances of being chosen to start in LF over Carl Crawford.

by Jim in NC on Sep 1, 2025 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crawford has been absolutely wretched against LHPs this year

You can certainly slot him in if you’d prefer, but I wanted to act in good faith and go with the player that has been better against lefties.

by mrkupe on Sep 2, 2025 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Walker, Martinez, May are best picks

However, limiting myself to the Yankees, I would pick Jairo Heredia. Other than him, Brett Marshall or Nik Turley. But I think Heredia would be the best bet out of the Yankees organization.

by cookiedabookie on Aug 31, 2025 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Zach Lee

3:1 SO/BB ratio, nice ERA, and nice average against(238).

Another Dodger, Garrett Gould. Already considered a major league breaking ball, even nicer ERA than Zach Lee, 37BB/101K ratio, and 219 average against.

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Sep 1, 2025 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Jameson Taillon

With Taijuan Walker a close second.

by AckAttack on Sep 1, 2025 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Keivyus Sampson

a future ace, great fastball in mid 90 s,
he is in low A fort wayne

by Ivan Verastica on Sep 1, 2025 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

pretty good choice

Liriano, Mijares, Angel Morales, & Anthony Swarzak for Josh Johnson and Brad Hand

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 1, 2025 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Noah Syndergaard (coulda been Tyler Skaggs)

I started off looking for a power lefty to neutralize Gonzo and Big Papi, but did not find one that I really liked…So, then I went looking for a power arm with a high groundball rate because of the tiny confines in Philly. Syndergaard, who has had a fantastic year for TOR became my choice!

by canucksluck on Sep 1, 2025 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

was contemplating Drew Hutchison, but realized he's now in E.L. (wow)

Trevoy May seems like one of the better options, along with J. Taillon but I’ll take Barrett Loux… (tex)

Nicolino (tor) is just 19 and just simply too raw.

Liriano, Mijares, Angel Morales, & Anthony Swarzak for Josh Johnson and Brad Hand

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 1, 2025 2:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought about Loux, but

He is a right-hander without plus stuff, which would make him a pretty bad fit against Boston.

by mrkupe on Sep 1, 2025 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Put me in the Taijuan Walker camp

He misses bats, controls the strike zone and gets groundballs, and has the stuff to give a big league lineup a challenge. Not much not to like other than the lack of experience.

by dnc on Sep 1, 2025 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

How about

 . . . Barrett Loux?

has more experience in bigger games than most these guys, having pitched in college.

throws strikes

keeps ball in ballpark

misses bats

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by casejud on Sep 1, 2025 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

This said above

Id go with Carlos Martinez - sensational arm

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by casejud on Sep 1, 2025 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edwar Cabrera, I guess just because of the strong peripherals.

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by CodyG on Sep 1, 2025 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Anthony Raunado a bad answer?

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by Marisa Ingemi on Sep 5, 2025 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it's more like it's hard to really see what would make him a "good" answer at this point

Perhaps we should chalk this year up to being a recovery year for him, and I have never been a huge fan, but I was expecting a guy with his profile and (perceived) stuff to do better than he has.

The biggest thing in his favor is that he’s had more big-game experience than your average A baller, but his command is still obviously meh. If you’re taking a guy with wild card command, you want a guy with big stuff . . .and is Ranaudo’s stuff comparable to or even better than the likes of a Carlos Martinez?

by mrkupe on Sep 6, 2025 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah just throwing names out there

that have not been mentioned yet.

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