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A Pointless Rant about Joe Mauer, Jesus/Judas of Minnesota

There is no particular point to this post. I just needed to rant a little and get some stuff off my chest.

It has been a rough year for us Minnesota Twins fans. No doubt about it. 30 years ago, or even 10, I would have been down-in-the-dumps about such a disappointing season. Nowadays I have other things to worry about. I still follow the team closely and when they win I am happy, but when they fail I just don't get that emotional about it any more.

Bob Feller once told me that people took baseball (and by implication all other professional sports) entirely too seriously, and that his perspective on it changed after he watched shipmates die aboard the USS Alabama during World War II. "It's just a damn game," he told me. "I know people make a living off it. I sure did. And fans enjoy it, and people write about it, and that's great, but it's just a damn game."

I never faced kamikazes as Feller did, but these days I entirely agree.

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The recent attacks on Twins catcher Joe Mauer in the Minnesota press are really leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

It is the same taste I get here in Kansas when I watch the local TV sports ranter. . .er, anchor. . .bashing the Royals. It is the same feeling I get when I accidently listen to a few minutes of sports talk radio.

I don't agree with everything Dayton Moore does and I think the Royals organization has made some serious mistakes. It is entirely justified to critique the Mauer contract on purely baseball grounds, putting too much money into one injury-prone basket. But I just can't stand the way the press turns on a dime, going from "Dayton Moore is a genius who will save the organization" to "Dayton Moore's youth movement is a failure," or from "Joe Mauer, Jesus of Minnesota" to "Joe Mauer the Lazy Judas." And fans are even worse than the media people. Perhaps the media folks are just following the fan lead, writing and saying what they think the fans want to hear. Gotta sell those papers, boost those page views.

Is Joe Mauer overpaid? Sure. But I would argue that in terms of social-good-provided, every major league baseball player is overpaid by a large amount. Not that I want the owners to keep the money, either, but the fact is that, despite what the sociopathic Ayn Rand and her acolytes may tell you, economic success is not the same thing as moral virtue. It never has been and it never will be. They are often diametrically opposed, at least by any standard of morality that I wish to live by.

The best human being on Earth probably isn't a baseball player or corporate CEO or sportswriter or blogger.  The best person in the world might be a slave laborer in some factory somewhere, or maybe an illegal immigrant toiling 14 hours a day in 90 degree heat in some Florida orange grove to provide for his family. Whoever it is, she or he is probably not going to reap a big economic reward for their virtue.

Writing about minor league baseball and prospects is my job. It is a job I love and one I am very fortunate to have. However, I don't waste neuron firings actually worrying about things like Joe Mauer's contract these days. I don't see baseball players as heroes any more, but scapegoating them isn't any better use of our time.

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I'm 100% with you.

I’ve made no secret that I have problems with the way that “journalist” does his job. It’s a dangerous position too, because people read that trash and it influences their otherwise uninformed opinions.

by Jesse on Jun 30, 2025 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Off topic - Ayn Rand defense

John, Ayn Rand never espoused that economic success is the same thing as moral virtue. Nearly every single one of Rand’s protagonists were glorified not because they were successful, in fact they struggled to find success. Rather, her work is about the individual “ego” triumphing over the collective. Rand speaks of individualism and original thought as what drives human innovation and inspiration. Too many people confuse her message as a message of self-absorption/selfishness. Yes, Rand believes people are self-interested and their actions are driven in such a manner and to deny your ego is to deny your soul (in a way), but this does not mean money triumphs over moral virtue. For some individuals, maybe. That is not her message though.

It is more about being true to yourself, do not compromise your ideals, stand by your convictions, and seek to better yourself and humanity.

If anyone would be critical of the press, it would be Rand (as that is a pretty strong message in The Fountainhead).

by jaroche6 on Jun 30, 2025 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

yeah

Yeah, I know Rand is more complicated than that. . .I’ve read her. She said some good things but she also said some really awful things too.

In a way she is sort of the inverse of Karl Marx. Like Marx, Rand had some valuable insights into the human condition. But she was an intellectual, and like many intellectuals, she took her insight and constructed a system of thought about it that in real life simply doesn’t work too well. And if you read some of the biographical material about her and the way she treated the people around her, she really did come across as a sociopath.

In my opinion. :)

I agree she would be appalled at the press.

by John Sickels on Jun 30, 2025 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

inverse of Karl Marx

Never heard her descibed like that before, but if the shoe fits…

by Jack203 on Jul 1, 2025 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fountainhead & AS are two of my favorite books.

Good redirect of her philosophical points.

by Jesse on Jun 30, 2025 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

say what you want

But I’m still not drafting Rand on my fantasy team

The 2008 Rogelio Moret League Fantasy Baseball Champions!

by The Congo Hammer on Jul 1, 2025 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"seek to better yourself and humanity."

Not quite. The overwhelming message of Rand is an exaltation of individual exceptionalism, with humanity (the mediocre hordes) painted as an albatross around the necks of her “heroes”. What fascinates me are the fans of her work who flatter themselves that she’s speaking to and about them, when in actuality they would be counted among the masses dragging down her elites. I’ve always chalked her popularity up to the confounding aspirational streak at the heart of our culture. Anyone can be rich. Anyone can be famous. Anyone can be President. Everyone is special. Except most people aren’t, at least not in the ways they place value on.

If there’s one thing that irrevocably turned me off to rand, it is her explicit contempt for the concept of altruism. It takes a curious sort of bitterness and cynicism to spend your life working to deny and repudiate that which is best in us.

by blackoutyears on Jul 1, 2025 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

What fascinates me are the fans of her work who flatter themselves that she’s speaking to and about them, when in actuality they would be counted among the masses dragging down her elites

A very relevant observation to the current use of Rand in political discourse.

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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 1, 2025 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two things

First off, great post. The best person in the world is a man named Alford Clark. He works as a dishwasher in a restaurant in Memphis, TN. He’s around 50 years old. This fact has been confirmed by every person he’s come in contact with.
Second- it’s gotten beyond page views and selling papers. It’s gone to the darkest places you hoped it never went. It’s gossip and opinions instead of analysis and intelligence. It’s who is the loudest. Who will sell an extra six pack of some light piss beer through the television box. It’s no longer sports, it’s a constant ad campaign. Part of it reminds me a lot of farhenhiet 451- you have to leave the normal parts of society/ sports to get something good out of it. Listening to espn is the same now as CNN or fox news- just a lot of yelling about things in a black and white manner when it’s very much a gray subject. That’s why during games I turn the sound off and put a record on. Much more civilized. Rant over.

by thehitonecafe on Jun 30, 2025 10:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

"It’s no longer sports, it’s a constant ad campaign."

All I have to say is, “Safe at second! … Safe and Secure … New York Life.”

by Jihan1 on Jun 30, 2025 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur with everything written here

This is why a) I don’t watch and listen to the news anymore, b) I watch the games with the “mute” button on.

As for sports journalists(or any other types), meh, take what the say with a grain of salt. They’re just grown kids covering other grown kids playing games.

I’ve read Ayn Rand as well. I thought part of her undertone was humans lead to self-destruction through greed and ambition? but, maybe that was just what I got from some of her books.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Jun 30, 2025 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

But then again, the most moral person in the world just MIGHT be a baseball player or CEO. Probably not, but let’s not rule them out because they are not impoverished.

by ldd233 on Jun 30, 2025 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Its so funny how sports work.

I find that hardcore fans, at least myself, don’t let themselves get nearly as emotional as casual fans. My friends that are casual Mariners fans really beat themselves up when the M’s lose and I just say "Dude, I’ve been doing this for 15 years. These are the Mariners (or “This is a game” or “There’s 162 games” or “This is baseball” but it really applies to my favorite Seattle teams) and getting upset about it doesn’t help or affect the outcome."

The more you’ve beaten yourself up, the easier losses or bad players or bad contracts or getting screwed by the umps, is easier to take.

I’m the same after a loss as I am before the game started. You have to take your beatings before you can learn how to accept them.

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by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 30, 2025 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Easy distinction

If you think of/treat sports as “an entertainment business”, which all professional leagues obviously are.

That’s another great part of being a parent. Being able to enjoy little league baseball/softball at a much higher level of purity. At least until All-Stars/travelling teams get involved, then the scene is even worse than the pros.

by samjjones on Jun 30, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree with your post

about" casual" fans v. “real” fans. When a team that has been stuck at the bottom for a long time and suddenly gets hot, has a good season, or are loaded with prospects and there is talk about how good the team will be, fans seem to come out of the woodwork and support the team.

I grew up in the ‘90s when the Brewers were terrible. Attendance at County Stadium for most of those years wasn’t much over 1.5 million, many years probably a lot less. Once Miller Park opened in 2001 and the team had a shiny new stadium attendance went up. The past couple years when the team has been a contender for the postseason attendance has been up over 3 million, or double that of when the team wasn’t any good.

People simply want to see a winner.

This season hasn’t exactly gone to plan, even though the Brewers are at the top of the NL Central. The team, especially specific players and managerial decisions, have taken the brunt of criticism from the media and fans, both “casual” ones who seem to live and die with the team on a daily basis, and “real” fans who are used to the spectacle that has been the Brewers.

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[searches through his papers]
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by Hobbes11 on Jun 30, 2025 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

I, too, don’t worry about contracts for my favorite team. I am thoroughly interested in them, however. Luckily, there are so many good writers and resources out there to dissect and examine the successes/failures/etc. of those contracts.
And its amazing how the writers and websites I do enjoy make that dissection look pretty easy - just like other writers make their jobs look easy (this site, for instance, or Joe Posnanski). Of course, just like in our best athletes, when it looks easy it is truly very difficult but these people have honed their craft.
The sad part is that there are many other professionals and aspiring professionals out there in the media who don’t hone their craft and take the easy way out. They’re not making it look easy, they’re taking it easy. Any fool can make a snap judgment on a player or contract, play to the masses and perhaps score a ratings point or two. That same fool can turn around six months or six minutes later and say the opposite for another point.
I, for one, am glad to turn off the radio/TV/interwebs page and find something a little more insightful and enjoyable. As the saying goes, “it takes all kinds,” but what I can make look easy (at times) is pushing some of those kinds into the background.

by AGuinness on Jun 30, 2025 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

My Worst Sports Reporter Moment.

J.R. Richard was quickly becoming the best pitcher the Astros ever had. Then he started missing games with “a tired arm.” He insisted that something was really wrong — he just didn’t know what it was. But the reporters were merciless, accusing him of being lazy, lacking in toughness, and unwilling to sacrifice for his team. One of our local Austin reporters (I think his name was Sullivan) was particularly critical in a personal and nasty way.

Then one day J.R. keeled over with a stroke caused by a blood clot in his neck/shoulder area. The next day, Sullivan’s column was “Hey Big Guy. Why didn’t you tell us something was hurting?” JR survived, but was never able to successfully pitch in the majors again. And Sullivan set the standard for sports reporter douchebaggery.

by Jihan1 on Jun 30, 2025 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

hear hear

agree completely. And it’s more than just bashing players, because it kinda hit hard when it reminded me of the Vancouver riot.

by CaptainCanuck on Jul 1, 2025 2:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Sports and sports teams become parts of our personal identities

That’s a problem because wins and losses can become personal insults for a person who filters his or her fandom through his or her sense of self-worth.

That said, I despise the Yankees (always have), the Baltimore Ravens, the Cubs, the Celtics, the Flyers, etc. These are irrational hatreds. My rooting preferences are also irrational. I just try to keep in check my raging hatred for some teams and my blinkered exuberance for other teams. There is always next season.

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by steve_z on Jul 1, 2025 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I've honestly never even heard "Joe Mauer the lazy Judas" untill i read this

I do think thats quite silly

I wish the Minnesota Faithfull would lighten up a lot.

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 1, 2025 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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