Not a Rookie: Dallas Braden
This was originally published July 18th, 2009, but it seems like a good thing to put back up top today.
Dallas Braden was a 24th round pick by Oakland in 2004, out of Texas Tech University. He went 6-4, 4.56 with a 93/21 K/BB in 97 innings in college, with 109 hits allowed. . .that doesn't look too hot at first glance, but Texas Tech isn't an easy place to pitch, and his K/IP and K/BB ratios were pretty solid. He signed fairly quickly, got into 16 innings of relief work at Vancouver in the Northwest League, posting a 2.76 ERA and a sharp 26/3 K/BB. He then moved up to Kane County in the Midwest League and posted a 4.70 ERA with a 33/6 K/BB in 23 innings. His fastball was average, but he had good command of an impressive screwball. I didn't put him in the 2005 book, but would have rated him as a Grade C prospect, capable of being a sleeper.
Braden began '05 with Stockton in the California League, posting a 6-0, 2.68 record with a 64/11 K/BB in 44 innings. Promoted to Double-A Midland, he went 9-5, 3.90 with a 71/32 K/BB in 97 innings, 104 hits allowed. . .not bad at all for the Texas League one year out of college. I saw him pitch for Midland and he was throwing just 84-86 on the day I saw, but with a lot of movement on the breaking ball. I gave him a Grade C in the 2006 book, noting that he had some sleeper potential and "could be a surprise" if he held his K/BB and K/IP marks steady at higher levels.
Braden missed almost all of 2006 with a shoulder injury, putting his status in doubt. He pitched 37 innings on rehab between the Arizona Rookie League, Stockton, and Midland, pitching well at the rookie level but not looking great at the other two. I didn't put him in the 2007 book as a result. In retrospect, this was a mistake, as he came back healthy and effective in '07, pitching great in Triple-A (2.95 ERA, 74/18 K/BB in 64 innings, 51 hits) and making his major league debut. He got knocked around in the majors (6.72 ERA, 55/26 K/BB in 72 innings, 91 hits), but did enough to earn further chances. He split '08 between Triple-A and the majors, and this year he's been effective for Oakland, 3.45 ERA so far with a 75/31 K/BB in 117 innings, 121 hits. In his major league career, Braden is 13-20, 4.55 with a 171/82 K/BB in 261 innings, 289 hits allowed.
Can he maintain this? I note that his K/IP and H/IP marks aren't great even this year, and I don't think he's ever going to have a huge margin for error with his 87 MPH fastball. As a prospect, he showed consistently good K/IP and K/BB ratios, even at the college level, especially adjusted for context. This is another example of how critical strikeouts are when looking at pitching stats in the minors: if the guy is striking people out, even with a trick pitch and without plus velocity or gaudy scouting reports, the major league potential is there.
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Braden
Shows you don’t need plus plus stuff to succeed in the majors. Same goes for Mike Leake.
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by ravensfan3 on May 9, 2025 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
Having a near 20 mph difference in pitch speeds is really helpful
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by thejd44 on May 9, 2025 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Braden's changeup IS plus-plus
Who has a better one right now? Santana, Lincecum, who else— Hamels?
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Ford Prefect: Why, what did she tell you?
Arthur Dent: I don't know, I didn't listen!
by PaulThomas on May 9, 2025 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
True
I should have said a plus fastball.
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by ravensfan3 on May 9, 2025 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ricky Romero's
Is pretty damn good.
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by cwhitman412 on May 10, 2025 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyler Clippard!
Says the resident Nats fan.
Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!
by souldrummer on May 11, 2025 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Braden
A little off topic, but I was at the game today… it’s too bad more people didn’t come out. The closest I’d ever come to seeing a PG was when Harden threw I think 7+ perfect innings against Texas a few years ago. It was pretty special being there today. I still can’t believe I actually saw a perfect game, live.
Of course if Braden continues to pitch well the 12K will swell to about 50K as time goes on :-)
It’s pretty easy to overlook Braden because of his fastball, his draft position, that he plays on the A’s. I like to remind folks that he struck out 17 hitters in AAA. Another feat that is pretty special.
by toni on May 9, 2025 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
doing this on Mother's Day
After his mom died of cancer when he was a teen…. still amazing
by nickramz on May 10, 2025 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
Im a Yankees fan
And love them, but do they really have such little class? Arod and Burnett making stupid jokes/comments about the event a couple of weeks ago… When I read that on mlb.com, I felt ashamed to be a Yankee fan
Congrats Braden. To lose your mom to cancer and then so many years later, with your grandmother in the stands, to be perfect on the day the game fights cancer.. wow. Simply amazing.
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 10, 2025 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
classy comment
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by designatedforassignment on May 10, 2025 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I am sure its only a few fans
there’s always going to be some fans that make the rest of us look terrible.
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by feslenraster on May 10, 2025 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Its not the fans
I can accept that most Yankee fans are idiots. It’s guys who are making 30M/year and nearly 20M/year that are acting like f*in kids. Give the guy his moment. He just threw a perfect game on a day that he honors the lady he lost as a senior and even more so, the lady who raised him, refusing to let him fail in life. And all they can do is make jokes and snide comments? Damn, just really disrespectful.
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 10, 2025 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
oops my bad..didn't read the whole thing
Burnett’s known to be an idiot, who cares what he says anyway?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
by feslenraster on May 10, 2025 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I know
And because they are on the Yankees, I want to root for them, of course. But when they are simply immature assholes, how can you? Especially Arod.. dude is making 30M a year and you think he could be the more mature guy in their little feud and after Braden throws a perfect game…something more rare than 50HR season or hitting 500 HRs, just saying ;)… you’d think he could say good job without throwing in a snide comment
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 10, 2025 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Congratulations to Dallas Braden. Just an incredible story.
As a bit of an aside, and a shout out to John, I remember first reading about Braden on this site, not long after he was drafted. Being able to follow guys like him, who emerge from fairly deep (24th round, I believe), has enriched my enjoyment of the game a great deal. It made today that much sweeter. Go A’s.
by D O on May 10, 2025 2:43 AM EDT reply actions
oops
that was a +1 to DFA. Thanks for the love, lakers.
by D O on May 10, 2025 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, what a feat Dallas, good for you!
Is Dallas a younger version of Jaime Moyer? Or a bit different?
"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"
by feslenraster on May 10, 2025 9:34 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe a little, but their career paths are so different.
Moyer bounced around, was halfway out of baseball, etc, and didn’t really “make it” till he was 30.
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by thejd44 on May 10, 2025 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Really liked this article on his change up from DLM
http://tinyurl.com/2boouba
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by PWHjort on May 11, 2025 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
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