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Discussion Question: Jordan Schafer

by John Sickels on


Discussion Question for you:

Should Jordan Schafer's suspension for using human growth hormone hurt his prospect status, and if so, by how much? I gave him a Grade B+ in the book. Should I reduce that?

UPDATE: My Take

Officially I'm reducing him from Grade B+ to Grade B, looking at the HGH controversy as akin to an somewhat significant injury that keeps him out of 50 games. At this point, we simply don't have any idea how much, or how little, HGH was responsible for his impressive performance last year. Maybe it was a big factor, maybe it did nothing at all. NO ONE KNOWS. We have to see what happens when he comes back, how he adjusts, as much emotionally and psychologically to the scrutiny as anything.  

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It isn't the minorleagueball.com community's prospect book. Who are we to say?

Chad Tracy is the Swine King.

by PujolsJunkie on Apr 9, 2025 4:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Prospect Status

I said as much in one of the journals but I'll repeat it here:

At this point, scouts have to wonder what part of his tools were aided by HGH and what weren't. I think his recent progress is sort of out the window and he'll have to prove himself all over again.

by Lunkwill Fook on Apr 9, 2025 4:13 PM EDT   0 recs

No

By being a male nurse there's no proof that it actually improves a players performance on the field.

by Jay212033 on Apr 9, 2025 4:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Male nurse

If you were a female nurse, what would your opinion be?

by Lunkwill Fook on Apr 9, 2025 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

obviously this question opens a can of worms

but this is really the point. it seems like hgh doesn't really do anything for an athlete. maybe there was some kind of placebo effect (or maybe hgh actually does do something) but until we know for sure, i think the grade has to stay the same. of course, it ain't my grade.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 9, 2025 4:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HGH

.... Really? It's a banned substance in almost every sport. Scientists may be debating its positive results but to say it DEFINITIVELY does nothing... I mean, do you think he doesn't deserve a suspension at all?

by Lunkwill Fook on Apr 9, 2025 4:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i think my words were sufficiently indefinite.

"seems"? "maybe"?

if it's against the rules, he deserves to be suspended. that much should be obvious. we're debating the grade. implicit in that is whether he actually benefited from the use of hgh. since that's a rather open question - especially considering we don't know when he was using it - i think the grade should stay the same.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 9, 2025 4:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hampsters

There's as much evidence that eating live hampsters will improve your athletic performance as there is that HGH will.

He'll be suspended because he broke the (stupid*) rules, but the only reason I would see to downgrade him is because of the lost development time. The organization still seems to be behind him 100%.

by mraver on Apr 10, 2025 10:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Live hamsters

I ate one yesterday. I mean, seriously, it can only help, right?

by Lunkwill Fook on Apr 10, 2025 11:00 AM EDT to parent up