Discussion Question: Pitchers Who Surprised You

Discussion Question: Name Pitchers That Surprised You

A few days ago, we had an interesting discussion about hitters who became surprise successes. We will continue the discussion today, switching species over to pitchers.

As with the hitters, there are two categories here.

A pitcher who scouted well, did not put up great minor league numbers, but who became a strong pitcher in the majors. In other words, a guy the scouts were right about.

A pitcher who put up great minor league numbers, who had mediocre or poor scouting reports, but who became a strong pitcher anyway. In other words, a guy the statheads were right about.

Can you name one in each category?