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Elijah Dukes Controversy Benchmark

so our elijah pretty well won the game for the nats single-handed last night, which i suppose is the bat-signal for me to swoop back on in here and issue some i-told-you-so's. well, not really. but this is all i ever said: in the end, talent will play. notice how milton bradley's not having too shabby a year either, despite the occasional bout of scarlet lefebvre.

was just looking back at the famously crazy top 100 from whatever year it was. dukes at 15? not looking so bad. certainly better than brandon wood at #4, or lincecum behind adam miller. of course that's just how things sit this week.

i was looking for that blowout argument we all had but i think it got deleted in the sockpuppet wars.

at any rate, there's at least one obvious lesson here: don't jump to conclusions. guys were burying dukes' career way too early last summer, because that was what they wanted to see. and now dukes could still be banned from baseball for life next week and then i'd be wrong again. don't push yourself on the world; just let things happen and then look at 'em.

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Around Cape Fear: First Base (Draft)

This isn't really finished, but I feel bad about leaving the catchers hanging out there for so long without any support. Don't want 'em drooping. Plus I want to try and stay ahead of Silver over at BP. (I wrote this list up before his article came out last week.) So we'll make a quick pass at first base. Please leave comments.

From my old top 100:

  • Daric Barton, OAK : one of my pets for this year.
  • Joey Votto, CIN : i still don't really feel like i know him.
  • ...
  • Lars Anderson, BOS : already has a bridge.
  • Chris Marrero, WAS : yep.
  • Chris Davis, TEX : i think of him kind of like if adam dunn and brandon wood had a kid. but is that good or bad?
  • ...
  • Andrew Lambo, LA : my new favorite toy. "what have we here?"
  • Nick Weglarz, CLE : some other people's favorite toy. the numbers are fairly rare for a teenager in full-season. that's rare on a seasonal level, not a once-in-a-decade level, of course; still.
  • Jordan Brown, CLE : this was too high. i don't know what i was thinking. wait, i remember: "just hit". he can. but he's not good enough. good candidate to get hubered.
  • Chris Carter II, OAK : i'm not *quite* sold on this one, but i don't feel justified in having a strong opinion yet. for now we can put him in a chain gang with lambo and weglarz.

  • Other candidates (quickly tiered):


  • Kyle Blanks, SD
  • ...
  • Matt Sweeney, ANA
  • Sean Doolittle, OAK
  • Chris Carter I, BOS : aka jordan brown IV
  • Juan Miranda, NYY
  • ...
  • Cody Johnson, ATL
  • Anthony Rizzo, BOS
  • Brandon Snyder, BAL
  • Freddie Freeman, ATL
  • Yohermyn Chavez, TOR
  • Kyle Orr, LA
  • ...
  • Michael Aubrey, CLE
  • Logan Morrison, FLA
  • Jeff Larish, DET

  • ... and a bunch of guys i don't really believe in at all...


  • Aaron Bates, BOS
  • Mark Hamilton, STL
  • Matt Whitney, CLE
  • Andrew D'Alessio, SF
  • Bryan Byrne, ARI
  • Lucas Duda, NYM
  • Rhyne Hughes, TB
  • Mike Carp, NYM
  • Eric Duncan, NYY
  • Gaby Sanchez, FLA
  • Kala Ka'aihue, ATL
  • Clint Robinson, KC

  • I feel like there are more. I haven't even scanned the BA book for missing links yet. Not sure I can get to 30 real guys though. With 1B it's so hard to clear the bar offensively, as is well known.

    I'm not ranking them quite yet; do throw out some other suggestions.

    EDIT: from the suggestion box:


  • Angel Villalona, SF - move to 1B sounds pretty official.
  • Beau Mills, CLE - what the hey, put him here.
  • Craig Cooper, SD
  • Chris Nash, CLE
  • Osvaldo Morales, STL
  • 22 comments | 6 recs

    Around the Cape of Magellan: Catcher

    I've been wanting for a while to do a position-by-position prospect rundown series, just to pass the time, and I'm finding the new system finely inspirational.

    I figured calling it "Around the Horn" would be a cliche, so I'm going to call it "Around the Cape of Magellan". I know it's actually Cape Horn and the Straits of Magellan, but let's agree to ignore that.

    So. Catchers. Here's how they shook out in the last version of my top 100 that I have on record, from January 17 (so says the last modified date on my laptop, anyway):

  • 5 - Matt Wieters, BAL - love him.
  • 28 - Geovany Soto, CHC - pretty much the best hitter in the minors last year; despite his age and the PCL, I mostly buy it.
  • 36 - Jeff Clement, SEA - was always skeptical, but some of the more recent reports on his zone control and contact ability have encouraged me.
  • 57 - Max Ramirez, TEX - this is pretty high, based on my "just hit" credo. but he's probably not really a catcher.
  • 58 - Jesus Montero, NYY - same basic deal.
  • 63 - Taylor Teagarden, TEX - galt's use of mike napoli as an offensive comp for his cal league numbers is sort of fascinating.
  • 68 - Hank Conger, ANA - i'm cooling on him a bit now with this shoulder injury thing.
  • 71 - JR Towles, HOU - not sure why i had him this low. i guess i read some stuff about flaws in his swing. we'll see.
  • 95 - Wilson Ramos, MIN - our up and comer.

    Others I'd listed in the holding tank:

  • Josh Donaldson, CHC
  • uh, i guess that's it.

    So who else is relevant? Some other catchers of note, divided into two groups, will follow.

    (EDITED thursday 3/20 10:31AM EST)

    group 1: "close and solid" (carlos ruiz division)

  • Bryan Anderson, STL
  • Mitch Canham, SD
  • John Jaso, TB
  • Lou Marson, PHI
  • Craig Tatum, CIN
  • Jonathan Lucroy, MIL
  • Ed Easley, ARI
  • James Skelton, DET
  • JP Arencibia, TOR - i hate him
  • Lars Davis, COL
  • Jackson Williams, SF
  • Matt McBride, CLE
  • Adam Moore, SEA

    group 2: "farther off and maybe awesome" (hank conger division)

  • Tyler Flowers, ATL - my latest "the guy" among catchers, supplanting ramos (who i still like, of course - he's just not the newest any more) - played more 1B last year due to injury, but can catch and can hit (supposedly)
  • Devin Mesoraco, CIN
  • Austin Romine, NYY
  • Travis d'Arnaud, PHI
  • Angel Salome, MIL
  • Mike McKenry, COL - hit well last year, don't know much else
  • Luis de la Cruz, STL
  • Max Sapp, HOU
  • Francisco Pena, NYM
  • Danny Rams, MIN - fascinating to me, as he's been described: 80 power + 80 arm + no other tools
  • Robinzon Diaz, TOR

    Got all that? So, ok. Here it comes:

    Wily Mo's Overall Top 30 Catchers (of Magellan)

    (EDITED thursday 3/20 10:31AM EST)

    1. Matt Wieters, BAL
    2. Geovany Soto, CHC
    3. Jeff Clement, SEA*
    4. JR Towles, HOU
    5. Taylor Teagarden, TEX+
    6. Wilson Ramos, MIN+
    7. Jesus Montero, NYY*
    8. Josh Donaldson, CHC
    9. Tyler Flowers, ATL
    10. Max Ramirez, TEX*
    11. Lou Marson, PHI+
    12. Mitch Canham, SD
    13. Craig Tatum, CIN+
    14. John Jaso, TB*
    15. Bryan Anderson, STL
    16. Hank Conger, ANA*
    17. Devin Mesoraco, CIN
    18. Austin Romine, NYY
    19. Jonathan Lucroy, MIL
    20. Ed Easley, ARI
    21. Travis d'Arnaud, PHI+
    22. Angel Salome, MIL
    23. Mike McKenry, COL
    24. James Skelton, DET
    25. Jackson Williams, SF+
    26. Francisco Pena, NYM
    27. Luis de la Cruz, STL
    28. Lars Davis, COL
    29. Matt McBride, CLE
    30. Danny Rams, MIN*
    * - particularly questionable to stick at C
    + - exceptionally likely to stick

    So, what's wrong with this? I really started making stuff up right around Canham or so.

  • 28 comments | 7 recs

    aaand what video collection would be complete without some lincecum porn. ok, now i'll stop hogging the thing.

    comment 8 months ago Wilymofall_tiny wily mo comment 1 comments 0 recs

    jared goedert, indians 2B/3B prospect, takes BP. youtube from last year. goedert did some really insane things in low-A last year, then never really got settled in high-A because of injuries, but i suspect he can really hit. video has a nice little sountrack to it, so be cautious.

    comment 8 months ago Wilymofall_tiny wily mo comment 0 comments 0 recs

    wilson ramos, the famously awesome twins catching prospect. youtube video from may 6 2007. honestly, i mostly just want to see what this thing does.  

    comment 8 months ago Wilymofall_tiny wily mo comment 2 comments 0 recs

    Community Prospect #57

    bereft of his multi-accounted cheering squad, guerra immediately wins by one vote.  could do a runoff, but doesn't really seem worthwhile at this stage.

    LIST

       1. Jay Bruce OF CIN
       2. Evan Longoria 3B TB
       3. Colby Rasmus OF STL
       4. Clay Buchholz RHP BOS
       5. Clayton Kershaw LHP LAD
       6. Joba Chamberlain RHP NYY
       7. Cameron Maybin OF FLA
       8. Homer Bailey RHP CIN
       9. David Price LHP TB
       10. Andy LaRoche 3B LAD
       11. Jacob McGee LHP TB
       12. Johnny Cueto RHP CIN
       13. Travis Snider OF TOR
       14. Brandon Wood 3B/SS CAL
       15. Matt Wieters C BAL
       16. Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
       17. (T) Joey Votto 1B CIN
       17. (T) Andrew McCutchen OF PIT
       19. Wade Davis RHP TB
       20. (T) Chase Headley 3B SD
       20. (T) Reid Brignac SS TB
       22. Daric Barton 1B OAK
       23. Rick Porcello RHP DET
       24. Franklin Morales LHP COL
       25. Jeff Clement C SEA
       26. Matt LaPorta OF/1B MIL
       27. Mike Moustakas SS KC
       28. Chris Marrero OF  WAS
       29. Fernando Martinez OF NYM
       30. Matt Antonelli 2B SD
       31. Desmond Jennings OF TB
       32. Carlos Gonzalez OF OAK
       33. Jason Heyward OF ATL
       34. Fautino de los Santos RHP OAK
       35. Jed Lowrie SS BOS
       36. Angel Villalona 3B SF
       37. Gio Gonzalez LHP OAK
       38. Ian Kennedy RHP NYY
       39. Carlos Triunfel SS SEA
       40. Steven Pearce 1B/OF PIT
       41. Jordan Schafer OF ATL
           (Kosuke Fukudome OF CHC)
       42. Adam Miller RHP CLE
       43. Nick Adenhart RHP CAL
       44. Wladimir Balentien OF SEA
       45. Austin Jackson OF NYY
       46. Eric Hurley RHP TEX
       47. Jose Tabata OF NYY
       48. Geovany Soto C CHC
       49. Lars Anderson 1B BOS
       50. Chin-Lung Hu SS LA
       51. Chris Davis 3B TEX
       52. Luke Hochevar RHP KC
       53. Jarrod Parker RHP ARI
       54. Taylor Teagarden C TEX
       55. Manny Parra LHP MIL
       56. Deolis Guerra RHP NYM

    i've cut the size of the poll a little bit this time just because it seems like we're definitely picking out of these nine guys for the moment.  do still feel free to vote other.

    INSTRUCTIONS

    i will create 14 vote-thread comments, one for each prospect polled.  please use the "reply to this" link on that comment to post a +1 message under the player you're voting for.  (look and see how other people are doing it first if that's not clear.) REMEMBER TO USE THE REPLY-TO-THIS LINK, NOT THE REGULAR FORM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.

    POLL 57


    Ross Detwiler LHP WAS
    Josh Vitters 3B CHC
    Cole Rohrbough LHP ATL
    Neil Walker 3B PIT
    Hank Conger C CAL
    Elvis Andrus SS TEX
    James McDonald RHP LA
    Ian Stewart 3B COL
    Jordan Walden RHP CAL
    "Other"

    Please look at this list and decide who you're voting for now, so you don't make any impulsive decisions down below.  Also peruse the following "more candidates" section carefully to make sure there isn't an "other" vote you'd like to cast.

    MORE CANDIDATES - PITCHERS

    Justin Masterson (2/56), Hiroki Kuroda (2/38), Jair Jurrjens (0/51), Radhames Liz (1/50), Carlos Carrasco (1/49), Max Scherzer (0/49), Anthony Swarzak (3/47), Jeff Niemann, Scott Elbert, Dan Cortes, Alan Horne, Michael Bowden, Chris Volstad, Matt Harrison, Troy Patton, Will Inman, Jeremy Hellickson, Brad Lincoln, Jaime Garcia, Chuck Lofgren, Collin Balester, Sean Gallagher, Greg Reynolds, Jeff Manship, Donald Veal, Bryan Morris, Nick Hagadone, Brett Cecil, Aaron Poreda, Joe Savery, James Simmons, Jordan Zimmermann, Clayton Mortensen

    Tim Alderson (1/54), Chris Tillman (1/49c), Trevor Cahill, Brett Anderson, Kasey Kiker, Jeremy Jeffress, Tony Butler, Michael Main, Omar Poveda, Neftali Feliz, Dellin Betances, Tommy Hanson, Tyler Robertson, Henry Sosa, Brandon Erbe, Kyle Drabek, Jeff Locke, Blake Beavan, Phillippe Aumont, Madison Bumgarner, Matt Latos, Josh Smoker, Chris Withrow, Dan Duffy, Julio Teheran

    Jon Meloan, Casey Weathers, Dan Moskos, Chris Perez, Eduardo Morlan, Felipe Paulino del Guidice

    MORE CANDIDATES - HITTERS

    Brent Lillibridge (2/56), Chris Carter II (2/56), Brandon Jones (0/55), Beau Mills (0/54), Dexter Fowler (1/50), JR Towles (0/52), Tyler Colvin, Wes Hodges, Todd Frazier, Jordan Brown, Drew Stubbs, Chris Nelson, Nolan Reimold, Bryan Anderson, Aaron Cunningham, Mat Gamel, Nate Schierholtz, Kellen Kulbacki, Justin Maxwell, Max Ramirez, Kyle Blanks, Josh Rodriguez, Michael Bourn, Tony Thomas Jr, Brandon Hicks

    Bill Rowell (1/55), Michael Burgess (0/49), Nick Weglarz, Ryan Kalish, Gorkys Hernandez, Matt Sweeney, Hector Gomez, Jesus Montero, Adrian Cardenas, Gerardo Parra, Cedric Hunter, Nick Noonan, Oscar Tejeda, Kevin Ahrens, Matt Dominguez, Devin Mesoraco, Will Middlebrooks, Wendell Fairley, Andrew Lambo, Ben Revere, Neftali Soto, Engel Beltre

    votes.

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    league draft / the full monty

    my league just finished our minor league draft and i figured i'd post the results, for purposes of discussion and so you kids who are prepping for similar type deals can get a sense of the market.  

    see this previous diary for full context.  quick summary: player pool is mostly 2007 draftees; some premium on quick development.  as noted, i am the Incident.  

    Round 1
    1 (1) Bail Bonds - Matt Wieters, C (BAL)
    2 (2) Galacticos - Mike Moustakas, SS (KCR)
    3 (3) Rattlers - David Price, P (TBD)
    4 (4) Galacticos - Jason Heyward, OF (ATL)
    5 (5) Rattlers - Matt LaPorta, OF (MIL)
    6 (6) Galacticos - Jarrod Parker, P (ARI)
    7 (7) Galacticos - Rick Porcello, P (DET)
    8 (8) Polygamists - Josh Vitters, 3B (CHC)
    9 (9) Incident - Kosuke Fukudome, OF (CHC)
    10 (10) Winos - Michael Burgess, OF (WAS)
    11 (11) MoneyShots - Beau Mills, 3B (CLE)
    12 (12) Galacticos - Ross Detwiler, P (WAS)
    13 (13) Drunks - Hiroki Kuroda, P (LAD)
    14 (14) Winos - Casey Weathers, P (COL)
    15 (15) Incident - Nick Noonan, 2B (SFG)
    16 (16) Egomaniacs - Jordan Walden, P (ANA)

    Round 2
    1 (17) Bail Bonds - Josh Smoker, P (WAS)
    2 (18) Drunks - Josh Donaldson, C (CHC)
    3 (19) Bail Bonds - Cole Rohrbough, P (ATL)
    4 (20) Knights - Aaron Poreda, P (CHW)
    5 (21) Ducks - Todd Frazier, SS (CIN)
    6 (22) Incident - Tim Alderson, P (SFG)
    7 (23) Incident - Oscar Tejeda, SS (BOS)
    8 (24) 33's - Joe Savery, P (PHI)
    9 (25) Winos - Matt Latos, P (SDP)
    10 (26) Bail Bonds - Michael Main, P (TEX)
    11 (27) Cannons - Madison Bumgarner, P (SFG)
    12 (28) Ducks - Kellen Kulbacki, OF (SDP)
    13 (29) Galacticos - Devin Mesoraco, C (CIN)
    14 (30) Drunks - Daniel Moskos, P (PIT)
    15 (31) Incident - Jesus Montero, C (NYY)
    16 (32) Ducks - Max Scherzer, P (ARI)

    Round 3
    1 (33) Bail Bonds - Tony Thomas, 2B (CHC)
    2 (34) Winos - Nick Hagadone, P (BOS)
    3 (35) Polygamists - Mat Gamel, 3B (MIL)
    4 (36) Knights - Matt Mangini, 3B (SEA)
    5 (37) Rattlers - Blake Beavan, P (TEX)
    6 (38) Galacticos - Anthony Rizzo, 1B (BOS)
    7 (39) Galacticos - Matt Dominguez, 3B (FLA)
    8 (40) Winos - Brandon Hicks, SS (ATL)
    9 (41) Polygamists - Phillippe Aumont, P (SEA)
    10 (42) Winos - Brett Cecil, P (TOR)
    11 (43) Ducks - James Simmons, P (OAK)
    12 (44) Ducks - Will Middlebrooks, 3B (BOS)
    13 (45) MoneyShots - Kevin Ahrens, 3B (TOR)
    14 (46) Ducks - Wendell Fairley, OF (SFG)
    15 (47) Incident - Andrew Lambo, OF (LAD)
    16 (48) Egomaniacs - Ben Revere, OF (MIN)

    Round 4
    1 (49) Winos - Matt Whitney, 1B (WAS)
    2 (50) Winos - Damon Sublett, 2B (NYY)
    3 (51) Winos - Clayton Conner, 3B (ARI)
    4 (52) Fanatics - Corey Brown, OF (OAK)
    5 (53) Incident - Eugenio Velez, 2B (SFG)
    6 (54) Knights - Chris Withrow, P (LAD)
    7 (55) Knights - Jordan Zimmerman, P (WAS)
    8 (56) MoneyShots - Shelby Ford, 2B (PIT)
    9 (57) Bad Boys - Brandon Waring, 3B (CIN)
    10 (58) Rattlers - Nick Evans, 1B (NYM)
    11 (59) Cannons - Pete Kozma, SS (STL)
    12 (60) Cannons - Clayton Mortensen, P (STL)
    13 (61) Polygamists - Engel Beltre, OF, (TEX)
    14 (62) Knights - Jonathon Lucroy, C (MIL)
    15 (63) Incident - Dan Duffy, P (KCR)
    16 (64) Incident - Julio Teheran, P (ATL)

    Round 5
    1 (65) Bail Bonds - Josh Reddick, OF (BOS)
    2 (66) Egomaniacs - Bryan Morris, P (LAD)
    3 (67) Polygamists - Chorye Spoone, P, BAL
    4 (68) Fanatics - Mitch Canham, C (SDP)
    5 (69) Winos - Daniel Dorn, OF (CIN)
    6 (70) Cannons - Neftali Soto, SS (CIN)
    7 (71) Cannons - J.P. Arencibia, C (TOR)
    8 (72) Polygamists - Bud Norris, P, (HOU)
    9 (73) Cannons - Gaby Sanchez, 1B (FLA)
    10 (74) 33's - Masahide Kobayashi, P (CLE)
    11 (75) Winos - Jack McGeary, P (WAS)
    12 (76) MoneyShots - Felipe Paulino, P (HOU)
    13 (77) Ducks - James Adkins, P (LAD)
    14 (78) Drunks - Brandon Snyder, 1B (BAL)
    15 (79) Incident - Julio Borbon, OF (TEX)
    16 (80) Egomaniacs - Sean Doolittle, 1B (OAK)

    Round 6
    1 (81) Bail Bonds - Jose Ceda, P (CHC)
    2 (82) MoneyShots - Eddie Kunz, P (NYM)
    3 (83) Polygamists - Blake Wood, P (KCR)
    4 (84) Fanatics - Brian Rike, OF (COL)
    5 (85) Winos - Zack Braddock, P (MIL)
    6 (86) Incident - Yasuhiko Yabuta, P (KCR)
    7 (87) Knights - Daniel Payne, OF (SDP)
    8 (88) MoneyShots - Brant Rustich, P (NYM)
    9 (89) Bad Boys - Jaime Pedroza, SS (LAD)
    10 (90) Bad Boys - Celeb Gindl, OF (MIL)
    11 (91) Cannons - Eric Young Jr., 2B (COL)
    12 (92) Ducks - Wes Roemer, P (ARI)
    13 (93) Lumberjacks - Gregory Desme, OF, OAK
    14 (94) Drunks - Emilio Bonifacio, 2B (ARI)
    15 (95) Polygamists - Jose Martinez, OF, CHW
    16 (96) Polygamists - John Shelby, OF, CHW

    Round 7
    1 (97) Bail Bonds - Jonathan Still, C (BOS)
    2 (98) Incident - Jake Arrieta, P (BAL)
    3 (99) Polygamists - Kelvin DeLeon, OF, NYY
    4 (100) Fanatics - James Skelton, C (DET)
    5 (101) Winos - Michael McCardell, P (MIN)
    6 (102) Egomaniacs - Andrew Bailey, P (OAK)
    7 (103) Knights - Ryan Pope, P (NYY)
    8 (104) MoneyShots - Kazuo Fukumori, P (TEX)
    9 (105) Bad Boys - Clint Robinson, 1B (KCR)
    10 (106) 33's - Nick Schmidt, P (SDP)
    11 (107) Winos - Eric Sogard, 2B (SDP)
    12 (108) Egomaniacs - Jordan Parraz, OF (HOU)
    13 (109) Drunks - Brian Duensing, P (MIN)
    14 (110) Egomaniacs - Jayson Nix, 2B (COL)
    15 (111) Egomaniacs - Ed Easley, C (ARI)

    Round 8
    1 (112) Bail Bonds - Rhyne Hughes, 1B (TBD)
    2 (113) Polygamists - Jeff Marquez, P (NYY)
    3 (114) Fanatics - Fernando Perez, OF (TAM)
    4 (115) Egomaniacs - Allen Craig, 3B (STL)
    5 (116) Bad Boys - Andrew Brackman, P (NYY)
    6 (117) 33's - Barry Enright, P (ARI)
    7 (118) Ducks - Drew Cumberland, SS (SDP)
    8 (119) Drunks - Brian Bixler, SS (PIT)
    9 (120) Egomaniacs - Jason Pridie, OF (MIN)

    Round 9
    1 (121) Fanatics - Carmen Angelini, SS (NYY)
    2 (122) Bad Boys - Neil Ramirez, P (TEX)
    3 (123) 33's - Ryan Dent, SS/OF (BOS)
    4 (124) Egomaniacs - Danny Worth, SS (DET)

    Round 10
    1 (125) Bad Boys - Kyle Lotzkar, P (CIN)
    2 (126) Egomaniacs - Colten Willems, P (WAS)

    Round 11
    1 (127) Bad Boys - Nick Blackburn, P (MIN)

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    Community Prospect #56

    here's a link to the last poll with some cute commentary.

    LIST

       1. Jay Bruce OF CIN
       2. Evan Longoria 3B TB
       3. Colby Rasmus OF STL
       4. Clay Buchholz RHP BOS
       5. Clayton Kershaw LHP LAD
       6. Joba Chamberlain RHP NYY
       7. Cameron Maybin OF FLA
       8. Homer Bailey RHP CIN
       9. David Price LHP TB
       10. Andy LaRoche 3B LAD
       11. Jacob McGee LHP TB
       12. Johnny Cueto RHP CIN
       13. Travis Snider OF TOR
       14. Brandon Wood 3B/SS CAL
       15. Matt Wieters C BAL
       16. Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS
       17. (T) Joey Votto 1B CIN
       17. (T) Andrew McCutchen OF PIT
       19. Wade Davis RHP TB
       20. (T) Chase Headley 3B SD
       20. (T) Reid Brignac SS TB
       22. Daric Barton 1B OAK
       23. Rick Porcello RHP DET
       24. Franklin Morales LHP COL
       25. Jeff Clement C SEA
       26. Matt LaPorta OF/1B MIL
       27. Mike Moustakas SS KC
       28. Chris Marrero OF  WAS
       29. Fernando Martinez OF NYM
       30. Matt Antonelli 2B SD
       31. Desmond Jennings OF TB
       32. Carlos Gonzalez OF OAK
       33. Jason Heyward OF ATL
       34. Fautino de los Santos RHP OAK
       35. Jed Lowrie SS BOS
       36. Angel Villalona 3B SF
       37. Gio Gonzalez LHP OAK
       38. Ian Kennedy RHP NYY
       39. Carlos Triunfel SS SEA
       40. Steven Pearce 1B/OF PIT
       41. Jordan Schafer OF ATL
           (Kosuke Fukudome OF CHC)
       42. Adam Miller RHP CLE
       43. Nick Adenhart RHP CAL
       44. Wladimir Balentien OF SEA
       45. Austin Jackson OF NYY
       46. Eric Hurley RHP TEX
       47. Jose Tabata OF NYY
       48. Geovany Soto C CHC
       49. Lars Anderson 1B BOS
       50. Chin-Lung Hu SS LA
       51. Chris Davis 3B TEX
       52. Luke Hochevar RHP KC
       53. Jarrod Parker RHP ARI
       54. Taylor Teagarden C TEX
       55. Manny Parra LHP MIL

    here's a sassy remark connecting the list to the polling section.

    INSTRUCTIONS

    i will create 14 vote-thread comments, one for each prospect polled.  please use the "reply to this" link on that comment to post a +1 message under the player you're voting for.  (look and see how other people are doing it first if that's not clear.) REMEMBER TO USE THE REPLY-TO-THIS LINK, NOT THE REGULAR FORM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.

    POLL 56


    Josh Vitters 3B CHC
    Deolis Guerra RHP NYM
    Ross Detwiler LHP WAS
    Hank Conger C CAL
    Jordan Walden RHP CAL
    Cole Rohrbough LHP ATL
    Elvis Andrus SS TEX
    James McDonald RHP LA
    Neil Walker 3B PIT
    Brent Lillibridge SS ATL
    Ian Stewart 3B COL
    Justin Masterson RHP BOS
    Chris Carter 1B OAK
    "Other"

    Please look at this list and decide who you're voting for now, so you don't make any impulsive decisions down below.  Also peruse the following "more candidates" section carefully to make sure there isn't an "other" vote you'd like to cast.

    MORE CANDIDATES - PITCHERS

    Hiroki Kuroda (2/38), Jair Jurrjens (0/51), Radhames Liz (1/50), Carlos Carrasco (1/49), Max Scherzer (0/49), Anthony Swarzak (3/47), Jeff Niemann, Scott Elbert, Dan Cortes, Alan Horne, Michael Bowden, Chris Volstad, Matt Harrison, Troy Patton, Will Inman, Jeremy Hellickson, Brad Lincoln, Jaime Garcia, Chuck Lofgren, Collin Balester, Sean Gallagher, Greg Reynolds, Jeff Manship, Donald Veal, Bryan Morris, Nick Hagadone, Brett Cecil, Aaron Poreda, Joe Savery, James Simmons, Jordan Zimmermann, Clayton Mortensen

    Tim Alderson (1/54), Chris Tillman (1/49c), Trevor Cahill, Brett Anderson, Kasey Kiker, Jeremy Jeffress, Tony Butler, Michael Main, Omar Poveda, Neftali Feliz, Dellin Betances, Tommy Hanson, Tyler Robertson, Henry Sosa, Brandon Erbe, Kyle Drabek, Jeff Locke, Blake Beavan, Phillippe Aumont, Madison Bumgarner, Matt Latos, Josh Smoker, Chris Withrow, Dan Duffy, Julio Teheran

    Jon Meloan, Casey Weathers, Dan Moskos, Chris Perez, Eduardo Morlan, Felipe Paulino del Guidice

    MORE CANDIDATES - HITTERS

    Brandon Jones (0/55), Beau Mills (0/54), Dexter Fowler (1/50), JR Towles (0/52), Tyler Colvin, Wes Hodges, Todd Frazier, Jordan Brown, Drew Stubbs, Chris Nelson, Nolan Reimold, Bryan Anderson, Aaron Cunningham, Mat Gamel, Nate Schierholtz, Kellen Kulbacki, Justin Maxwell, Max Ramirez, Kyle Blanks, Josh Rodriguez, Michael Bourn, Tony Thomas Jr, Brandon Hicks

    Bill Rowell (1/55), Michael Burgess (0/49), Nick Weglarz, Ryan Kalish, Gorkys Hernandez, Matt Sweeney, Hector Gomez, Jesus Montero, Adrian Cardenas, Gerardo Parra, Cedric Hunter, Nick Noonan, Oscar Tejeda, Kevin Ahrens, Matt Dominguez, Devin Mesoraco, Will Middlebrooks, Wendell Fairley, Andrew Lambo, Ben Revere, Neftali Soto, Engel Beltre

    open.

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    my league draft, round 1

    hi, this is (* REDACTED *) round of my league's minor league draft.  

    we got through three rounds yesterday and i was originally going to post them all but then i found myself writing up this lengthy disclaimer about how you shouldn't talk about players that haven't been picked yet, only these players here, and then i found myself repeating it at the bottom of the post, and then i realized that it wasn't going to work and that i should just post the first round for now.

    so that's what i'm doing.

    draft pool is basically 2007 draftees, imports, and unowned players.  it's a fairly deep league (25-man minors), so the unowned pool is pretty shallow.

    it's not indefinite keeper - you get them for 3 years supercheap and then can extend them for up to 7 more at a higher salary, so you get them for a long time but not forever.  so there's some discount for guys who will take years and years to show up and some premium on immediate help, although philosphies vary.

    here's the first round.  i've bolded my own picks.  i don't know if the other guys who post here want to be pointed out or not so i'll let them identify themselves in the comments if they feel like it.

    Round 1
    1 (1) Bail Bonds - Matt Wieters, C (BAL)
    2 (2) Galacticos - Mike Moustakas, SS (KCR)
    3 (3) Rattlers - David Price, P (TBD)
    4 (4) Galacticos - Jason Heyward, OF (ATL)
    5 (5) Rattlers - Matt LaPorta, OF (MIL)
    6 (6) Galacticos - Jarrod Parker, P (ARI)
    7 (7) Galacticos - Rick Porcello, P (DET)
    8 (8) Polygamists - Josh Vitters, 3B (CHC)
    9 (9) Incident - Kosuke Fukudome, OF (CHC)
    10 (10) Winos - Michael Burgess, OF (WAS)
    11 (11) MoneyShots - Beau Mills, 3B (CLE)
    12 (12) Galacticos - Ross Detwiler, P (WAS)
    13 (13) Drunks - Hiroki Kuroda, P (LAD)
    14 (14) Winos - Casey Weathers, P (COL)
    15 (15) Incident - Nick Noonan, 2B (SFG)
    16 (16) Egomaniacs - Jordan Walden, P (ANA)

    so.  for your interest and edification.  comments welcome.  try to only talk about these picks for now, since the draft is still going on, although as i say we've already done 2 more rounds after this one.

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