DRAFT DAY OPEN THREAD

What channel

are you on on XM (175 Home Plate presumably?), and will they be broadcasting the draft live? I actually brought it into work today in the hope that I could listen....

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by Brickhaus on Jun 7, 2007 10:13 AM EDT reply actions

curious

He's usually on 175 every Friday afternoon.

I, too, would like to know when you'll be on the air today John.

by FI @ Minor League Ball on Jun 7, 2007 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions

I could be wrong...

but I think their draft coverage is supposed to be on ch. 188 starting at 1 ET

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by jonpyardi on Jun 7, 2007 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Actually...

I heard it was on XM 178. That's what they said this morning.

by guru4u on Jun 7, 2007 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions

only off by 10 :)

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by jonpyardi on Jun 7, 2007 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

It will be on

Channel 178 at 1:30 - they just announced it on 175.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 7, 2007 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions

I heard...

Their coverage actually starts at 1 PM Eastern (noon Central). The draft starts at 2 PM Eastern.

That is per Mark Patrick of Baseball This Morning as of 9 AM EDST this morning.

by guru4u on Jun 7, 2007 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions

John on XM

Just heard John will be on the fantasy focus show (channel 175) in a few minutes.

by FI @ Minor League Ball on Jun 7, 2007 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions

He's there now.

I liked it when they were turning it into the Devil Rays show though.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 7, 2007 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Have fun John!

All the reading, all the prep comes to fruition today.

Enjoy!

by NewKidInTown on Jun 7, 2007 10:18 AM EDT reply actions

As a Yankee fan, if somehow they end up with Porcello and he becomes the star that most envision, it just perpetuates the notion that the MLB draft is a sham... The fact that possibly the best pitcher in the draft (2nd at worst) is going to drop as far as he will is bad enough. It should be a great day, but bonus demands/agents ruin this day for me. KC should really have Porcello if they want him and they can't do it because Scott Boras is doing "what's best for his client."

I'll say it again... this is why the NFL is a better league even though it is not the better game. Their draft never has these issues.

It is a shame.

by jc3 on Jun 7, 2007 10:32 AM EDT reply actions

Didn't the Texans

blow the number one pick last year because of signablility issues?

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by jscape2000 on Jun 7, 2007 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

It's been one year

It's silly to say anyone "blew" a pick after one season. Mario Williams could easily turn into Julius Peppers, while Bush could end up as a glorified Dave Meggett.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions

Yea and...

Reggie could more easily become Barry Sanders than Dave Meggett, while even if Mario Williams became Julius Peppers he wouldn't have the impact on a game that Reggie or most good RBs would. With that said there is no way to justify that pick, signability or not.

by JD Sussman on Jun 7, 2007 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Thanks Miss Cleo

Glad to know that Bush has a greater chance to become Barry Sanders, arguably the most electric RB of all-time, than Dave Meggett, given his stellar 3.6 ypc last year.

Anyways, Houston still could have taken Bush if they wanted him, but they chose Williams because they thought he would make a greater impact on their team than a scatback like Bush. It had nothing to do with being unable to afford him, as the NFL has a salary cap and full revenue sharing. What a concept!

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Calling me Miss Cleo?

You were the one making the comparisons. If you think Reggie's impact on the game is messured by his 3.6 Yards Per Carry than you don't know much about football or just don't watch the Saints at all. I doubt he becomes Barry Sanders but he wont be a bust. Meggett is a bad comp only because he was a 5th rounder not someone with the hype Bush had. Although similar type players for sure.

I didn't say that Williams was a signability issue. I said regardless of if he was or not, it was a horrible decision for that pick. Williams could be great but still wont have the impact of an offensive skill player. He had a terrible Rookie Year anyway. For a number 1 pick overall you expect more than 4.5 sacks.

by JD Sussman on Jun 7, 2007 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions

Re:

A RB like Bush will not have the type of impact that a pass-rushing beast of DE would have on the NFL, period. If you question that I wonder about how well you differentiate the pro game and what Sportscenter stuffs down our throat. Bush if flashy but has not proven a thing in the NFL, just like Peppers. Saying either one is a bust at this point is stupid, but using Barry Sanders as a comp for Bush is downright silly at this stage.

You responded to a line of posts that originally started when someone said Houston passed on Bush because of signability. Thus, I could only assume you believed that was the case as well. If you agree that signability wasn't the reason they chose Williams over Bush, then we are going back and forth for no reason.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions

sorry if you misunderstood

But I didn't agree with him, nor did I say Bush would be Barry Sanders, my point was supposed to be satirical. Refering to the Meggett comment because I don't believe Bush will be that bad, he has a better shot of being a Barry Sanders than being that bad.

I agree that Bush hasn't proven anything, but he has ability I don't think you can deny that.

by JD Sussman on Jun 7, 2007 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Vince Young

will be better than either Bush or Williams. Mahalo

Matt

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by WayneCampbell05 on Jun 7, 2007 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

re:

"Didn't the Texans blow the number one pick last year because of signablility issues?"

An NFL draftee falling 1 spot possibly for signability issues is not comparable to MLB draftee falling 28 spots to the Yankees. That would be a sham. I don't think it's going to unfold that way today though.

by im not new on Jun 7, 2007 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions

NBA does it best

The NFL may have the most successful league, but the NBA by far has the best draft system (both in terms of entertainment and fairness). The slotting in the NBA is fixed (not recommended like in MLB), so teams decide purely based on TALENT. And that talent always goes to the teams that need it the most. A 60 win team will never get a shot at a Tim Duncan caliber prospect unless it trades for it (which isn't likely to happen).

by parrot11 on Jun 7, 2007 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't think that's exactly right

I don't think the NBA is perfect, either.

It may be changing with the 1 yr post-high school rule, but NBA teams are still going to draft guys like Marvin Williams, and see them become stars with other teams after their first contract is done. Like McGrady and Jermaine O'Neal.

by TC Chris on Jun 7, 2007 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

screw slotting

Why shouldnt players be able to seek as much money as they can? Baseball is VERY different from other sports. For a lot of the guys who get drafted today this is the last big paycheck they will ever recieve. A large portion of them will never get a big league contract and wont make the bigs, so let the guys get as much money as teams are willing to give them when they are drafted.

Just abolish slotting completely let people shoot for as much money as they want. Any team can afford a 10 million dollar bonus. That buys you 6 years of this player, how many crappy major leaguers make more then that? Let teams complain about draft bonuses but they cost nothing compared to free agency

by Kanst42 on Jun 7, 2007 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow

I didn't know George Steinbrenner posted on here!

by knightgalt on Jun 7, 2007 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions

wish i was that rich

But KC can complain about bonuses all they want but they gave Meche 11 million a year. Porcello wants 10 and that buys the first 6 years of his career. If they really dont have the money then its smarter to pass on Meche and take that 11 mil a year and sign two very good players in the draft each year

by Kanst42 on Jun 7, 2007 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions

WTF?

Meche is a pro baseball player! How on earth do you compare him to Porcello? How many 1st round picks even make it to the majors, let alone have a solid career? Elite prospects flame out all the time, every year - it makes no sense to mortgage your entire draft on one high school pitcher.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

No

The Texans screwed up because they're not too bright.

by Pistol on Jun 7, 2007 10:39 AM EDT reply actions

Top Ten

Rays- Price
Royals- Vitters
Cubs- Parker
P-Rats- Mesoraco
O's- Detwiler
Nats- Moustakas
Crew- Aumont
Rox- Moskos
D'backs- Weathers
Giants- Wieters

This is my guess at this point but if the Nats take a chance on Porcello all bets are off!

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 10:59 AM EDT reply actions

Recent Mock Drafts

Both Keith Law and Jon Mayo's latest mock drafts have Porcello falling to the Yankees

by nyybaseball99 on Jun 7, 2007 11:04 AM EDT reply actions

Jim Callis

has Porcello falling to the Rangers at #24, and Jim Callis is usually spot on.

by adschofield on Jun 7, 2007 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Who

does Callis have the Cards taking?

by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2007 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions

Callis has

the Cards taking Matt LaPorta

by adschofield on Jun 7, 2007 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Wow

THAT would be an interesting pick if they pass on on guys with decent ceilings at greater need positions.

by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

Here's his reasoning...

St. Louis has kept its intentions closer to the vest than any club. The Cardinals like college players with a strong track record of performance, and they haven't shied away from Boras clients in the past. That makes Wieters an obvious choice if he gets this far, and Florida first baseman Matt LaPorta fits the profile if Wieters isn't around. Porcello is another Boras client who would be a steal this low, but it's uncertain the Cardinals would shell out big money for a high school pitcher. Lewis-Clark State (Idaho) third baseman/first baseman Beau Mills has some advantages over LaPorta: He hits lefthanded, has a chance to play third base and may not cost as much. St. Louis also has looked at college arms such as UC Riverside righthander James Simmons, Cal State Fullerton righty Wes Roemer, San Francisco lefty Aaron Poreda and Hagadone.

by adschofield on Jun 7, 2007 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions

at 1B

Pujols
Hamilton
Buckman
...LaPorta?

And that's with Mather moving to the OF (but probably being a closet 1B).

I'm a big fan of grabbing the best bat (or arm) available, but at what point to you get concerned about being overstocked with guys at the lowest end of the defensive spectrum?

by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2007 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions

And the Yankees...

...taking my boy Matt Harvey.

Woo-hoo. I'd be glad for him to go there.

As for his prediction of Borbon to the Marlins at #12? As a Marlins fan, UGH. Please take Heyward over Borbon.

by ISC on Jun 7, 2007 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions

Hackets in the OF?

The Cards do put Duncan in the OF, right?

So maybe they would try LaPorta out there as well. Didn't he start his college career in the OF?

They also took Mark Hamilton, a college 1B, last year.

by cooper7d7 on Jun 7, 2007 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions

laporta

i believe he was a catcher

by nyybaseball99 on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions

no chance

there are too many teams with good relationships with Boras and semi deep pockets for a talent like Porcello to drop that far. I can't imagine that happening.

by JD Sussman on Jun 7, 2007 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions

The Jays...

will take him, if he's available.

Riccardi was on the Radio this morning saying they are drooling over a HS'er that they are hoping drops to them.

I think he was referring to Porcello, but obviously it could be anyone.

With Ted Rogers' recent splurge on the team, I think they take the chance on him, if he's avail.

by NewKidInTown on Jun 7, 2007 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions

Sorry...

forgot Porcello was in College. My bad :(

I still hope they grab him, if he's avail.

by NewKidInTown on Jun 7, 2007 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions

he isn't

Seton Hall Prep in NJ

by JD Sussman on Jun 7, 2007 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions

haha,...

it's already getting confusing. I didn't think he was, and then for some reason, I thought he was in college.

Let it begin!

by NewKidInTown on Jun 7, 2007 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions

I think

it's a position player like Matt Dominguez or Beau Mills

by adschofield on Jun 7, 2007 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

Agree

Toronto has too many early picks to put a ton of money into a guy like Porcello. Their draft budget would explode.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Toronto NEEDS more money

into the farm though. Going cheap on the draft considering our weaker farm system seems stupid when we've spent a lot of money on the team.

Go Jays!!!!

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by achengy on Jun 7, 2007 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Re:

I'm surprised everyone is ignoring the Cards.

They have a solid relationship with Boras and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them snag Porcello or Wieters if either one is there at 18.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions

Cards

don't like to shell out loads of money for unproven high schoolers. They like proven college players with a good track record.

by adschofield on Jun 7, 2007 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions

Colby

Rasmus?

by cooper7d7 on Jun 7, 2007 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions

True...

But a position player is a lot less risky than a pitcher. Also, Rasmus got a a 1 million dollar deal, while Porcello wants a 10 million dollar deal.

by adschofield on Jun 7, 2007 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions

I wasn't fair.

But if a HS talent that they believe in falls to them, I don't think they will dismiss it out of hand. I don't want to start a fight with Cards fans, but I'm not sure the strict college approach has paid off for them. So, there might be a correction coming.

When they took Rasmus, they also took a HS pitcher in the supplemental or 2nd round, Tyler Herron.

Now, the $10M might be a big stickler, but it might also be a completely unsubstantiated rumor or a bluff. I mean why not aim high?

by cooper7d7 on Jun 7, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm not saying

that the Cardinals will not draft a HS player. I'm just saying that shelling out 10 million dollars for a HS pitcher is the complete opposite of their draft philosophy. I find it hard to believe that the Cards will go from one end of the spectrum to another.

by adschofield on Jun 7, 2007 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions

They have also played it VERY close to the vest...

Meaning anything is possible with their #18 pick. I gotta imagine they will consider Porcello if he falls that far. After all, they did go into the last 2 offseasons with a larger budget than what they spent, meaning there theoretically SHOULD be some $$ left over

by guru4u on Jun 7, 2007 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

Cardinals

The Cards actually like to dish out the dough for high schoolers later on the draft.

They gave like 350K to Tommy Pham who was taken in the 15th round or so. They have also given nice size bonuses to Jon Edwards and Shaun Garceau. Both were taken after round 10. They also weren't too worried about taking Daryl Jones despite huge signability concerns.

I would not be surprised if Porcello, Harvey or Wieters were taken by the Cardinals if they fall.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 7, 2007 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions

Well

There's a lot of discussion out there that Luhnnow isn't locked into that, per se, and that this could be a very good year to go the HS route.

We'll see, obviously, but it sounds like we shouldn't automatically discount HSers in these little pre-draft musings.

by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2007 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions

giants

i am hoping wieters falls!!

Giants '08

by z4 landshark on Jun 7, 2007 11:26 AM EDT reply actions

A's Luxury Box for Beau Mills' Family

The A's have donated a luxury box at today's game for the family of projected high draft choice Beau Mills. Mills is the son of Red Sox coach Brad Mills.

by rayver723 on Jun 7, 2007 11:54 AM EDT reply actions

John's sleepers

On the Fantasy Focus show, he names his top sleepers for the draft: Nevin Griffith and Pete Kozma.

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by Brickhaus on Jun 7, 2007 12:22 PM EDT reply actions

Fewgoodcards

Wanted Kozma at #36, I believe. Give that man his own show!

by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2007 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Moustakas to KC?!

Jim Callis of BA is now reporting KC will take Moustakas. WTF?

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=64

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 12:38 PM EDT reply actions

That is the first wildcard.

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

AND

they're reporting that the Cubs will take Jarrod Parker. Thus, all three of Porcello, Weiters and Vitters might fall out of the top 3....

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by Brickhaus on Jun 7, 2007 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions

5 and 6

the Nats and O's will dictate what happens with the rest of the 1st round. If they take Boras clients it will cause some tense moments in draft rooms across the country.

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I had also read that

Vitters is asking for a hefty signing bonus. So the Pirates may not be a lock on Vitters now that he appears to be there for the taking.

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions

nats might

word is they want to make a big splash.

no way in hell the O's ever deal with boras.

by jpahk on Jun 7, 2007 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Not Quite

The update link I posted said the Cubs will take Vitters over Parker if KC passes on him.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Expected to

were the exact words. Remember, the Cubs can't go over slot money due to the sale of the franchise (so we have been told) that would leave the ball in Vitters court. If his demands are too high Parker will likely be the pick at number three to appease Bud.

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions

True

but i'm guessing Callis took financial considerations into account when he said the Cubs were expected to take Vitters at #3 overall.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Good timing

The first televised draft looks like it may be one of the most interesting in a while. All the contract demands are making for an intense first round

by Kanst42 on Jun 7, 2007 12:46 PM EDT reply actions

Yep

Just wish I wasn't at work. Grrr.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Let us knoW

if they say anything interesting on the telecast...

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by Brickhaus on Jun 7, 2007 1:01 PM EDT reply actions

Buster Olney

Said Vitters is a done deal to KC on 810 radio in KC.

wtf...

by doublestix on Jun 7, 2007 1:09 PM EDT reply actions

Dun, dun, dun

Maybe Moustakas was a bargining tool.

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Or maybe...

Vitters was the bargaining tool...you know Moustakas agent is Boras so..

by doublestix on Jun 7, 2007 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmmm

my head is starting to hurt.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions

If you don't have XM

you can listen to draft talk on Most Valuable Network Radio (http://mvn.com/radio/) over the internet.

http://mvn.com/milb-yankees/

by lemonjello on Jun 7, 2007 1:16 PM EDT reply actions

Weathers

According to his dad, Orioles have talked of taking him at 5, and then that sent the D-Backs in motion who said they would take him at 9...then Giants say they like him at 10....now the Rockies say they don't want him in the NL West so they'll take him at 9. I'm sure there is a lot of posturing at this point.

by melt12 on Jun 7, 2007 1:51 PM EDT reply actions

posturing?

why? it's not like teams can trade up and steal a player.....the only posturing going on is the games with the agents.....

by Wheelhouse on Jun 7, 2007 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions

lame

"now the Rockies say they don't want him in the NL West so they'll take him at 9"

Seems like a pretty lame strategy to base your draft choice on the fact you'd prefer a senior college relief pitcher not land in the division. Hell, alot of these college reliever 1st round picks haven't made the quick impact they were supposedly capable of. For every Chad Cordero there have been many more CHansen, RWagner and Brays.

sig: Karim Garcia posted dominant AAA stats at 19. So can we stop acting like ARL trumps all in every discussion...

by natsfan2005 @ Minor League Ball on Jun 7, 2007 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

INSANITY!

Lets just get it started! Go Royals!

by wildthang on Jun 7, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions

Nobody cares about Yao/Olajuwon!

Bring it on, boiiiiiii!

by ISC on Jun 7, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

Agreed

I was ready to punch my TV with that NBA crap

by Kanst42 on Jun 7, 2007 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

yay

corny opening montage!

by wildthang on Jun 7, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

wow leather chairs

maybe the most interesting development of the last 24 hours.

by wildthang on Jun 7, 2007 2:03 PM EDT reply actions

Jim Callis

looks pissed.

by Thinkblue on Jun 7, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions

JC

He's always got that sucking on a lemon look. :) Or it could be his back problem again. Mahalo

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by WayneCampbell05 on Jun 7, 2007 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope Callis

schools Law during the telecast.

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions

A's targeting power w/ their 1st 2 picks

Mills #26
Russell with at least one of their supp picks

by rayver723 on Jun 7, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions

No way

does Mills last until #26.

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by eazyb81 on Jun 7, 2007 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

sig: Karim Garcia posted dominant AAA stats at 19. So can we stop acting like ARL trumps all in every discussion...

by natsfan2005 @ Minor League Ball on Jun 7, 2007 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

oooops!

meant to anchor this reply to the Jets draft post below.

sig: Karim Garcia posted dominant AAA stats at 19. So can we stop acting like ARL trumps all in every discussion...

by natsfan2005 @ Minor League Ball on Jun 7, 2007 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

your sig

I think Karim Garcia was an age-gate type of player... not sure if that was ever established though.

by SLK on Jun 7, 2007 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions

then again

web research not coming up with any age adjustment stories.. so maybe he really was 19

by SLK on Jun 7, 2007 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions

BOOOOO Creepy Foot Doctor

Hooray Beer!!!

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by WayneCampbell05 on Jun 7, 2007 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Im hoping

that the D-Rays become the New York Jets of the MLB.

With the first pick of the MLB draft, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays take not David Price.

by wildthang on Jun 7, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions

having to listen to steve phillips yap

is gunna make this painful

by nyybaseball99 on Jun 7, 2007 2:08 PM EDT reply actions

and good ol Bud

by wildthang on Jun 7, 2007 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Leave it to the P-Rats

Moskos isn't bad but it's gonna be hard when he is down with arm problems.

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 2:41 PM EDT reply actions

O's

were the key to the 1st round.

by riktermiller on Jun 7, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions

I'm sad....

and mad at the Vitters pick.

We could AFFORD Porcello, we could have went with Parker...we could have went with Weiters...

I like Vitters decent, but I think there was alot better.

by SenorGato88 on Jun 7, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions

Chill Dude

Vitters was ALOT better than decent. He was one of the top, if not the #1 hitter in the draft. I so did NOT want to take another pitcher that would blow out his arm like all our other recent draft picks. You're just being your usual anti-Cub knee jerk reaction. Mahalo

Matt

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by WayneCampbell05 on Jun 7, 2007 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Meh...

not knee jerk reaction, I've made my feelings known for a while.

Vitters has LF or RF potential, and could be a plus hitter...BUT I fell for the early pitching talent pretty hard PLUS I don't think he projects at a premium position well enough for a top 3 pick.

I think if you're picking in the top 3, you go for talent at a prime position. Vitters isn't one of those gys. Going after Weiters for a plus hitter would have been better IMO.

I like Vitters, but I think there was better. Nothing wrong with that.

by SenorGato88 on Jun 7, 2007 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions

We Agree

On one thing, that Wieters would have been a better selection. He would have filled a big need very quickly. Another thing is that Vitters is NOT Brackman or Doolittle too. ;)

I also think it's very premature to assume that Josh won't stick at third. He's taller, more athletic and a better defender than Moutsakas. That is truly the guy without a position, not Josh. By the time he's ready, A-Ram will be on his last legs and Josh should step right in.

Finally, a guy who's 6'3", 185 with plus-plus hand-eye coordination and plus-plus bat speed. After he matures into his body and adds 20-30 pounds of muscle, he's going to be a monster with those short power alleys in Wrigley. I have no doubt he'll rake at the highest level. Mahalo

Matt

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by WayneCampbell05 on Jun 8, 2007 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions