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Tom Glavine Prospect Retro

Prospect Retro: Tom Glavine

Tom Glavine was drafted in the second round by the Atlanta Braves in 1984, out of high school in Billerica, Massachusetts. Some teams considered him a first round talent as the classic projectable lefty, but he was an outstanding hockey player in high school (testimony to his overall athleticism) and there was some concern about if he could be bought away from the NHL. The Braves picked him in the second round and he signed quickly. Assigned to the Gulf Coast League, he did well in his pro debut, posting a 3.34 ERA in 32 innings with a 34/13 K/BB ratio. Given his draft status and early pro numbers, Grade B would be a solid rating. He didn't throw that hard, but was polished and projectable.

Promoted to Sumter in the Sally League in 1985, Glavine went 9-6, 2.35 in 26 starts with a 174/73 K/BB in 169 innings, allowing 114 hits. His K/IP and H/IP ratios were excellent, but his walk rate was higher than ideal for a guy without a blazing heater.. Nevertheless, he was clearly one of the most intriguing southpaw prospects in the game. At this point, my main concern for a similar pitcher would be excessive workload at a young age. Grade B+.

Moved up to Double-A in 1986, Glavine went 11-6, 3.41 in 21 starts for Greenville, with a 114/70 K/BB in 145 innings. Promoted to Triple-A down the stretch, he was overmatched at Richmond with a 1-5, 5.33 mark and a poor 12/27 K/BB in 40 innings. The main issue here was a drop in his strikeout rate compared to A-ball, but given his age (20) and the fact that he skipped advanced A, this wouldn't be a major issue. I'd still put him at Grade B+.

Glavine went 6-12 but with a 3.35 ERA in 22 starts for Richmond in 1987, with a 91/56 K/BB. He went 2-4, 5.54 in nine starts for the Braves with a 20/33 K/BB in 50 innings. I remember seeing some of his starts that year, and it was obvious he was a talented pitcher, if overmatched and "nibbling" too much at the major league level. Keeping him at Grade B+ would seem reasonable.

Glavine lost 17 games for the Braves in 1988, then turned things around with a 14-win campaign in 1989. Unlike many pitchers, however, he avoided injuries and has been incredibly durable, winning 20 games five times, nearing 300 wins and collecting 4,150 innings without dramatic loss of effectiveness.

Glavine as a prospect was efficient, effective, and durable, just like in the majors. His minor league numbers fit in perfectly within the larger context of his career.

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so young
Wow.  He looks so young.  You can barely recognize him.

by DavidFoss on Mar 19, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Suggestions
Hi John,

I'd be interested in reading about a bust or two in your retrospectives...folks that made it to the big leagues, had some measure of success, but never quite became what we (or at least I) thought they might.  As a Reds fan, here are a few that would be interesting to me:
Willie Green - http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/G/Willie-Greene.shtml
Brett Tomko - http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/T/Brett-Tomko.shtml

And while certainly not a bust, Reggie Sanders might also be interesting as an extremely talented, yet ultimately somewhat flawed player:
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/S/Reggie-Sanders.shtml

Thanks for your website,
JinAZ

by JinAZ on Mar 19, 2007 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

eesh
being hard on Reggie...yeah hes not an HOFer but yikes hes been extraordinarily sucessful.  300 HRs, 300 steals, 15+ years, some rings...really underappreciated player

by nms on Mar 21, 2007 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks John
It amazing how well Glavine has managed with such high walk totals.

Not a whole lot changed from his minor league numbers.  Great write-up.

I think that God in creating Man somewhat overestimated his ability. - Oscar Wilde

by Skellig on Mar 19, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

walks
i saw him pitch plenty and im convinced his walks were often with a plan.  Yes, and im sure this was more pronounced as a minor leaguer, he would nibble some - he had to with his stuff - but a great many of his walks were semi-intentional.  If a good hitter was up he'd nibble but if the calls didnt go his way hed gladly walk the guy than give him pitches to hit.
Glavine, IIRC, defied DIPS theory his whole career...can someone verify this?

by nms on Mar 20, 2007 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Comparison to Chuck James
John, being here in the Southeast I hear alot of Braves chatter.  One of the thing I keep hearing is the comparison between Chuck James and Glavine.  Looking at the minor league stats do you see anything similiar?

by calbers on Mar 19, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Sowers
Jeremy Sowers has also been compared to Tom Glavine.

by Rayman @ Minor League Ball on Mar 19, 2007 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glavine comparisons...
I think every soft-tossing lefty since Glavine has been compared to Glavine.

by calig23 on Mar 20, 2007 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way
James isn't much like Glavine at all.  If there's a fair comparison for James, it's Sid Fernandez, a guy with a deceptive delivery leading to Ks and fly-ball outs, though James hasn't matched El Sid's strikeout totals at the major league level as yet.

by Mac Thomason on Mar 20, 2007 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah a bust
Do a retro on kevin mass
Bill

by Dodgerblue on Mar 21, 2007 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Sounds a lot like...
Sowers
Some people bring the Bible to college...we bring Moneyball.

by uga007 on Mar 21, 2007 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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