FINAL Community Prospect List (+ Honorable Mention Results)

by wily mo on Feb 7, 2007 10:01 PM EST Comment 18 comments

I'd like to start by giving shout-outs to everybody who made this possible: Brickhaus for starting us off until he got bored and started screwing off; whoever thought of this originally back at midseason before Brickhaus stole their idea, I forget who that was and it doesn't matter; myself of course; daveh and BaseballBrain for filling in the gaps; and Havok for bringing it home.

I'd also like to thank all of you little people out there who voted and participated in the discussions; this wouldn't have been possible without you. Well, it would have - in fact the list probably would have been better if nobody had participated but me - but we have to say that. I personally think that we made a pretty good list, except maybe toward the end; that we all (hopefully) learned some things; and that if nothing else, we had some good arguments.

In fact, I'm pretty sure of that last item. Here's the final list.

01. Alex Gordon, 3B (KC)
02. Delmon Young, OF (TB)
( Daisuke Matsuzaka, RHP (BOS) )
03. Philip Hughes, RHP (NYY)
04. Brandon Wood, SS (ANA)
05. Homer Bailey, RHP (CIN)
06. Billy Butler, OF (KC)
07. Cameron Maybin, OF (DET)
08. Chris Young, OF (ARI)
09. Justin Upton, OF (ARI)
10. Matt Garza, RHP (MIN)
11. Andy LaRoche, 3B (LAD)
12. Troy Tulowitzki, SS (COL)
13. Jay Bruce, OF (CIN)
14. Reid Brignac, SS (TB)
15. Elijah Dukes, OF (TB)
16. Andrew McCutchen, OF (PIT)
17. Carlos Gonzalez, OF (ARI)
18. Adam Miller, RHP (CLE)
19. Evan Longoria, 3B (TB)
20. Tim Lincecum, RHP (SF)
21. Mike Pelfrey, RHP (NYM)
22. Yovani Gallardo, RHP (MIL)
23. Andrew Miller, LHP (DET)
24. Jose Tabata, OF (NYY)
25. Ryan Braun, 3B (MIL)
26. Scott Elbert, LHP (LAD)
27. Fernando Martinez, OF (NYM)
28. Luke Hochevar, RHP (KC)
29. Clayton Kershaw, LHP (LAD)
30. Adam Jones, OF (SEA)
31. Jason Hirsh, RHP (COL)
32. James Loney, 1B (LAD)
33. Hunter Pence, OF (HOU)
34. Nick Adenhart, RHP (ANA)
35. Joey Votto, 1B (CIN)
36. Colby Rasmus, OF (STL)
37. Jeff Niemann, RHP (TB)
38. Daric Barton, 1B (OAK)
39. Brandon Erbe, RHP (BAL)
40. Adam Lind, OF/DH (TOR)
41. Jacoby Ellsbury, OF (BOS)
42. Felix Pie, OF (CHC)
43. Chris Iannetta, C (COL)
44. Phil Humper, RHP (NYM)
45. Josh Fields, 3B (CHW)
46. Ian Stewart, 3B (COL)
47. Jarrod Saltalamacchia, C (ATL)
48. John Danks, SP (CHW)
49. Billy Rowell, 3B (BAL)
50. Travis Snider, OF (TOR)
51. Franklin Morales, LHP (COL)
52. Kevin Kouzmanoff, 3B (SD)
53. Eric Hurley, RHP (TEX)
54. Chuck Lofgren, LHP (CLE)
55. Ryan Sweeney, OF (CHW)
56. Humberto Sanchez, RHP (NYY)
57. Kevin Slowey, RHP (MIN)
58. Jacob McGee, LHP (TB)
59. Jeff Clement, C (SEA)
60. Troy Patton, LHP (HOU)
61. Clay Buchholz, RHP (BOS)
62. Carlos Gomez, OF (NYM)
63. Elvis Andrus, SS (ATL)
64. Donald Veal, LHP (CHC)
65. Joel Guzman, 3B (TB)
66. Wade Davis, RHP (TB)
67. Travis Buck, OF (OAK)
68. Dexter Fowler, OF (COL)
69. Will Inman, RHP (MIL)
70. Chris Parmelee, 1B/OF (MIN)
71. Carlos Carrasco, RHP (PHI)
72. Dustin Pedroia, 2B (BOS)
73. Chris Lubanski, OF, (KC)
74. Erick Aybar, SS (LAA)
75. Miguel Montero, C (ARI)
76. Eric Campbell, 3B (ATL)
77. Michael Bowden, RHP (BOS)
78. Giovany Gonzalez, LHP (CHW)
79. Trevor Crowe, OF (CLE)
80. Joba Chamberlain, RHP (NYY)
81. Jonathan Sanchez, LHP (SF)
82. Brad Lincoln, RHP (PIT)
83. Dellin Betances, RHP (NYY)
84. Eric Patterson, 2B (CHC)
85. Brandon Morrow, RHP (SEA)
86. Ubaldo Jimenez, RHP (COL)
87. Chris Volstad, RHP (FLA)
88. Deolis Guerra, RHP (NYM)
89. Glen Perkins, LHP (MIN)
90. Nolan Reimold, OF (BAL)
91. Anthony Swarzak, RHP (MIN)
92. Hank Conger, C (LAA)
93. Sean West, LHP (FLA)
94. Jeremy Hellickson, RHP (TB)
95. Blake DeWitt, 2B (LAD)
96. Jaime Garcia, LHP (STL)
97. Cesar Carrillo, RHP (SD)
98. Kurt Suzuki, C (OAK)
99. Matt Sulentic, OF (OAK)
100. Brent Lillibridge, SS (ATL)

Honorable Mentions (in order, but un-numbered):

- Neil Walker, C (PIT)
- Thomas Diamond, RHP (TEX)
- Jonathan Meloan, RHP (LA)
- Tyler Clippard, NYY (NYY)
- Sean Rodriguez, SS (ANA)

As a bonus, here are the HM top 20 finishers (I decided to use jax's 7-3 scale instead of the original 5-1; it didn't change the outcome much but seems better somehow.)

Neil Walker 97
Thomas Diamond 91
Jonathan Meloan 84
Tyler Clippard 84
Sean Rodriguez 76
Cedric Hunter 73
Alberto Callaspo 63
Alexi Casilla 57
Jonny Cueto 54
Kyle Drabek 52
Lars Anderson 39
Angel Villalona 38
Justin Huber 33
Brian Barton 32
Eric Duncan 30
Charlie Haeger 28
Sean Gallagher 22
Mark Reynolds 19
Mike Carp 18
John Mayberry Jr 16
Tony Butler 16

Again, a big thank you to everybody except for those of you who aren't reading this. Good night, and good luck.

PS - Should we fold in Iwamura and Igawa somehow now?

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Thanks

Thanks to all of you who kept the lists going. Well done, and interesting discussions.

by BobbyMac on Feb 7, 2007 10:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

definitely enjoyed the whole list

Thanks for doing this whole thing. The question is, what the hell do we do now? Can we have a Bottom 100 Prospects, just to drive Sabernar over the edge?

by bleedjaxblue on Feb 7, 2007 10:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks to All

As a member of this online community, I would like to thank everyone for helping this site function with the hits we all produce everyday. This list is just a product of how much fun and knowledge this site brings us all everyday. Thanks for all the input on a controversial and exciting process.

by Metty5 on Feb 7, 2007 10:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

Thanks to all involved. I enjoyed following the list and witnessing all the chaos when my fellow Mets fans voted Humber too high =). Good work, guys.

by nyr2k2 on Feb 8, 2007 12:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I didn't know.....

that you had to be a midget in order to vote?

I'd also like to thank all of you little people out there who voted

I'm sorry, I hope I didn't skew the results.

by Transmission on Feb 8, 2007 9:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

John's Take

It's be real interesting to see what John has to say about the list.

by mckeeno on Feb 8, 2007 9:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

At the Plate

Our list was mentioned on today's 'Rookie' page at the attheplate.com site and is listed on the 'Top 100s' page at the same site. We're famous!

by rhd on Feb 8, 2007 5:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i dig that.

i've used that site since i got into prospects last year; i feel like a star when we show up there. (he posted the midseason list too.)

JDM is now doing position-by-position breakdowns of the duelling top-100 lists, including ours: starting with catchers today.

http://www.attheplate.com/rookies.htm

by wily mo on Feb 9, 2007 3:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hahaha

I love how Philip Humber's name is even listed as "Humper" on the site. I guess that's the eternal damnation he receives for the ballot-stuffing by Mets fans -- to go by a name that sounds more like something I'd call my dog than a top pitching prospect.

by bleedjaxblue on Feb 9, 2007 3:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

more Thanks

I voted in almost all of them. Its a good list and I'm glad I was a part of it. Thanks to everyone that organized and participated.

by jlogandjr on Feb 8, 2007 6:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

what a

senseless fanboy driven list. Barton #38? Paramlee 70? Betences so high? Pence over Pie?

by nms on Feb 8, 2007 6:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Not sure I agree

Not sure there are enough Stros or Twins fans on here to drive up the stocks of Pence or Parmalee...

Of course, maybe I'm missing sarcasm or something...

by Brickhaus on Feb 8, 2007 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gripes

Eric Patterson?

Eric Campbell?

That's the highest I've seen Lubanski.

Cesar Carrillo (I bet he has TJ within the next three months).

I'm anxious to hear how Tabata ended up ahead of Martinez.

by afoster on Feb 9, 2007 2:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Go back

Look at those polls and you'll see why. There was a LOT of argument on those two. Basically, I think that more people probably like Martinez better, but most of the people who like him better were voting for other people because they're also the people who are more risk averse (and thus voting for more established players). Seems like people generally like Tabata's bat better though.

by Brickhaus on Feb 9, 2007 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I like Tabata's bat and discipline better....

....power is the last thing to develop, so Im not really paying much attention to FMart's advantage in that area...I recognize that its there, but for a 17-year-old, it doesn't matter as much as good discipline....(see: Guzman, Joel)....

by daveh33 on Feb 9, 2007 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good job

Thanks for sharing the list and thanks to all the voters.

One thing this shows me when you put the HM in with it is how underrated Jair Jurrjens really is.

by VtTigers on Feb 9, 2007 4:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Wily Mo

I'm a "whoever thought of this ...."? Just for that I'm not drafting you until the 10th round you bastard!!! LOL

Dukes is Jurastically better than Bradley. After all Dukes has been playing baseball ever since T-ball.

by pedrophile on Feb 9, 2007 4:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for all the great work!

Hello everyone,

Thanks to everyone who helped make the Top 100 and Top 20 HMs possible - greatly appreciated. I learned much about evaluating prospects, as well as a general idea about who ranks where and who ranks above/below whom.

Thanks again and keep up the great work!

Take care and have a great day!

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Feb 10, 2007 10:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs