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Curtis Granderson Crystal Ball


Becomes a manager, winning a World Championship with the Cubs in 2038.

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"winning a World Championship with the Cubs in 2038."

I thought these were supposed to be realistic?

by Justin & Joe on Feb 3, 2007 4:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ha ha!
(not the "ha ha" type ha ha, like a sarcastic laugh, but a real laugh with you type "ha ha"

by yanksfan6129 on Feb 3, 2007 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yankees...
It's amazing to me how everyone with 'yank' in their screen name can't type a complete sentence that makes any sense at all.

by rothe on Feb 3, 2007 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha
now THAT was funny
"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift." -Steve Prefontaine

by jrose643 on Feb 3, 2007 6:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not that funny
just cant find this funny being from new york and a yankees fan.
Lincecum is the blood diamond.

by realityconquest on Feb 4, 2007 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Where's your capitalization and punctuation?
In the name of David Wright, Jose Reyes, and Lastings Milledge. Amen.

by BlackOps on Feb 4, 2007 10:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this as good as he gets?
I love the Crystal Balls but I notice that the past actual season (in Curtis' case 2006) always contains a career high for most players. This time around it's near career high in runs (90 in 06, high CB of 92), and 66 BB is two off of the CB high of 68.
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by TheK on Feb 3, 2007 4:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

really?
From what I remember reading this guy was suppossed to be a 20-20 guy waiting to happen. No projected 100 rbi seasons no 20 sb seasons, I think if he gets off the leadoff spot he can do better personally but who knows.

by Trobone on Feb 3, 2007 4:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Leyland doesn't like to run...
Granderson's SB's are hurt by the fact that Leyland doesn't "believe" in stealing bases unless the situation calls for it, as opposed to doing it just for the sake of padding the stat.  I think Granderson could steal 25+ once Leyland is no longer his manager.

by BaseballJonze on Feb 3, 2007 5:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Leyland
Is 105 years old.  He's not going to be coaching this team for much longer, so that shouldn't impact Granderson for much longer than a couple years.

by Galt on Feb 3, 2007 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Leyland is only 62
Amazing what smoking can do to someone's appearance.

by VtTigers on Feb 3, 2007 7:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great crystal ball
Kinda surprised he did not end up a Yankee however. Just a feeling I have that this guy will be wearing pinstripes in the future.

by dlpme77 on Feb 3, 2007 10:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why?
Is Granderson a bad speller or something?

by The Colonel on Feb 4, 2007 12:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He puts his emphasis
on the wrong syllable. And his punctuation could use some cleaning up!

by mroak89 on Feb 4, 2007 10:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this is a very good career
i actually think he'll run a little bit more but hit for a lower average. lots of seasons in the .290 range seems optimistic to me--the guy is a very poor hitter for contact. but his walk rate is very sound and he'll pop about 20 HR a year in his prime, which makes him a good player.

by jpahk on Feb 3, 2007 11:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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Andruw Jones - extreme lite?

Seems just like him with less power. Decent speed, good defense, not great contact skills.

by doublestix on Feb 4, 2007 12:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

How young
do you think 62 is?  Leyland looks about 62 to me.  

by Vaux on Feb 4, 2007 4:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well
I was just commenting on the person that said he was 105.  Barring major health issues I could easily see Leyland managing another 5-6 years.

I don't think he is really holding Granderson back.  Granderson has to learn to read pitchers and no when to break on SB attempts.

by VtTigers on Feb 4, 2007 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

62 is the new 42
By the time 2050 rolls around, the average life expectancy will be 150 years!

by mroak89 on Feb 4, 2007 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Reasonable
Although while Granderson is no Carl Crawford, I think there is very little chance he goes his whole career without a single season where he reaches double digit steals.  IMO it's not Leyland holding Granderson back, it's Granderson who needs to improve his base stealing skills.  Carlos Guillen managed to steal 20 bases under Leyland, and Carlos Guillen has a history of knee problems and less speed than Curtis.  I'm predicting Granderson swipes about 10-12 this year.

Also, as far as I know, Granderson has been quite durable throughout his major and minor league career.  I'm surprised to not see a single season where he reaches 160 GP.  He reminds me of Brandon Inge who is ready to go every day of the season, even if he probably could use a breather.  Inge played 160 in 2005 and 159 last year.  Maybe Granderson never improves vs LHP and finds himself on the bench against them more often in the future?

by mcq fesijiba on Feb 4, 2007 12:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Extremely similar to another Tiger OF
So he's only as good as Chet Lemon?
http://thebaseballcube.com/players/L/Chet-Lemon.shtml

Some of the numbers are strangely close.

by Athletic Supporter on Feb 4, 2007 1:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I may be one of a few people to think this but....
... after watching the adjustments he made in the playoffs, I really think hes going to improve this season. Though its obviously a small sample size, he had a 4/3 BB/K ratio though the AL playoffs. He, like most of the Tigers, looked like crap against the Cards, but he only had 3 Ks in 32 ABs against the Yankees and A's. That was facing some very good pitchers including two lefties that can strike people out (Big Unit and Zito - I know Zito doesnt have  a great K rate but he can strike poeple out), as well as guys like Harden, Haren and Mussina.

If he does hit, the Tigers are in for another great year. They were rolling while he was hitting this year and struggled when he was struggling. I think he, as well as Verlander, will be the keys to the Tigers season this year.

by grozzy on Feb 4, 2007 1:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I read somewhere
that the Tigers changed their approach vs. the A's and tried to be more patient/less aggressive or something along those lines

by mroak89 on Feb 4, 2007 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

New to the blog
Can anyone tell me how this "crystal ball" is generated?
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/lvxlibertas Projections, prospect spotlights, fantasy bits, and witty banter.

by JRB on Feb 4, 2007 1:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A fun exercise
As far as I can remember of John's original explanation, this is not a PECOTA-style forecast but rather an educated guess at what his career could look like.  John tries to predict things like gains in strike zone judgment, loss of speed, power spikes, free agency moves, MVP seasons, and the like.  

by Doug on Feb 4, 2007 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alright
So this is not computer-generated, but rather just an opinion?
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/lvxlibertas --- Projections, prospect spotlights, fantasy bits, and witty banter.

by JRB on Feb 4, 2007 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

projection
It is an "educated opinion"...not to be taken TOO seriously and mostly for fun. I do put quite a bit of work into them, looking at similar players and trying to figure out how the guy in question might develop. Is there a fancy computer program? No. Do I just slop numbers on the page? No. It is less than a projection/prediction but more than just guesswork. Does that make sense?

by John Sickels on Feb 4, 2007 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hit-and-run
I was involved in an interesting discussion during the season about Granderson's speed, since BBHQ's "speed score" shows that he's a lot faster than you could tell from the SB totals, and in pre-season, he stole a lot.  I convinced myself that the people who were arguing that Granderson could steal more were probably right, BUT...

Placido Polanco is one of the best hit-and-run batters in the majors, almost always making contact, regardless of the count, grounding the ball where it needs to go, and essentially hitting about the same as he does when the H&R isn't on (or better).  I think that hitting in front of Polanco makes it a lot easier for Leyland to make that call instead of a straight steal with Granderson, who's fast, but not a great thief.

So, in short, I convinced myself that the time to grab Granderson in roto is the season when it appears that he won't be batting in front of Polanco.  For "real" baseball (and sim games), I don't think the ~10 steals he's losing are making much difference to his value to the Tigers.  Everyone knows he's fast, so opposing managers have to watch him, which leaves the hole on the right side open.

by BobbyMac on Feb 4, 2007 4:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

John
makes good sense to me.  Thanks for responding.
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/lvxlibertas --- Projections, prospect spotlights, fantasy bits, and witty banter.

by JRB on Feb 4, 2007 4:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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