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Philip Hughes

Philip Hughes line thus far tonight

4IP 0H 0ER 0BB 6K

He looks like he's finally starting to put it all together. Is he for real? Do you expect to see him at some point this season? I know that Yankee prospects tend to get over-hyped however, I hope this is not the case as I am a Hughes owner in my dynasty league. I hope this kid can be a future "ace" and lead my team to a championship.

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being a Yankee fan...
I don't see why Hughes wouldn't be the real deal. He is a great player and his line tonight so far doesn't surprise me.
-Scott

by yanksfan6129 on Jun 23, 2006 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After 5
5IP 0H 0ER 1BB 7K

by nate050904 on Jun 23, 2006 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What are the odds that Hughes gets dealt
at the deadline? With some of the names getting tossed around (Cabrera, Willis, Zito) it would be tough for the Yanks to make a serious play without giving up Hughes. I think that they'd be crazy to deal him, but I wouldn't be shocked to see it happen.

by paul on Jun 23, 2006 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After 6...
6IP, 0H, 0ER, 2BB, 8K

by Stephcaflowne on Jun 23, 2006 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cashman
says that hughes is untouchable.

by jbg3004 on Jun 23, 2006 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Finally?"
The guy only turns 20 tomorrow and had a couple of mediocre (but not terrible) starts while getting his feet wet in Double A. Before that, he was dominant at both of his previous stops. I'd say he's been "putting it together" for a good while now.

I think the odds of Hughes getting dealt remain solid although not close to 100 percent. He looks tremendous and may very well be pitching in the big leagues by the time he turns 21. On the other hand,  his trade value is extremely high, quite simply because he's the best pitching prospect in the minors with all due respect to Homer Bailey, Matt Garza, and perhaps Jered Weaver. His inclusion in a trade could get the Yankees a very good pitcher, one who has already been pitching in the majors for a while. They're not crazy if they decide to trade Hughes as long as the player they acquire is a useful, valuable player that they intend to keep for a while.

Of course, wait and see as the Yankees inexplicably are able to acquire a good pitcher despite trading nothing of actual value. It'll be something like the Randy Johnson trade all over  again, something that'll make you say, "Was Bud threatening to close the franchise down if they didn't agree to that trade?"

by mrkupe on Jun 23, 2006 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Update
7-IP, 0-H, 0-R, 2-BB, 9-K...

over 100 pitches now so I doubt he continues.

by Stephcaflowne on Jun 23, 2006 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hughes at 105 Pitches...
He shouldn't be sent back out for the 8th but according to the radio broadcast, nobody warming in the Thunder bullpen.

by Tabata Time on Jun 23, 2006 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No-Hitter Gone....
1st pitch, double down the line.

by Tabata Time on Jun 23, 2006 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good
He shouldn't be being stretched like that anyway.

by Stephcaflowne on Jun 23, 2006 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's still out there....
What are you doing Masse.

by Tabata Time on Jun 23, 2006 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hughes...
8IP 1H 0R 2BB 10K

Gave up a leadoff double, GB to 2nd.  Runner to 3rd.  Strikeout looking before a groundball to end the inning.

by Tabata Time on Jun 23, 2006 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

10 Ks
Phil strikes out his 10th, making it back-to-back starts with double digit K's

by Stephcaflowne on Jun 23, 2006 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hughes Last Four Starts...
28IP, 13H, 3R, 7BBs, 33Ks, 0.96ERA, 0.71WHIP, 10.61 K/9.

I'd say he's adjusted well and a nice birthday gift for himself since he's turning 20 tomorrow.

by Tabata Time on Jun 23, 2006 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice
sexy numbers.

by npurcell on Jun 23, 2006 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hehe
Man...it feels good to be a fan of a team with baseball's best pitching prospect...despite the faults of other aspects of the system.
...NJASDJDH...

by Fabian on Jun 23, 2006 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

question
i've heard some say that a pitcher should get at least ten starts at each level before getting promoted.  considering how he's pitched over his last 4 starts, and how aggressive the yanks have been with other prospects (like Duncan), what are the chances this kids in AAA within a month?  any shot he's up this year?

by Dfarth on Jun 23, 2006 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fabian
Its great isn't it.  Last summer for Tigers fans it was a once in a lifetime display almost to watch Verlander and Zumaya carve up the minors. Shoot Tata went 13-2 as well.

This year aint half bad either with Sanchez and Jurrens.

I think Hughes has a good cance to make it to the bigs and be that homegrown stud the Yanks have wanted for years.

by Bondomania on Jun 23, 2006 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bondomania
Yeah, you guys have the potential to have a ridiculous rotation by the way. Verlander, Bonderman, Zumaya (who I hope they return to starting), and Miller. Wow.
...NJASDJDH...

by Fabian on Jun 23, 2006 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and
Don't forget humberto Sanchez

by Jgaztambide on Jun 23, 2006 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

humberto sanchez
he's put up ridiculous numbers this year.  I seem to recall john saying the stuff was there, but the command wasn't - 96.2IP  33BB. Clearly, things done changed.

by hockeymetrics on Jun 24, 2006 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jered Weaver
crosses fingers
Jered Weaver with a no-hitter through 6... guess he's gotten over the demotion
uncrosses fingers
Rays in '08....

by youALREADYknow on Jun 23, 2006 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well..
He gave up a hit as I was typing that... so scratch it

still 6.2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K

Rays in '08....

by youALREADYknow on Jun 23, 2006 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...
9IP 2H 0R 1BB 14K 105 pitches - including striking out the side in the 9th isn't too bad a start.  It's a shame he still isn't a "finished" product, huh Mike.  

by Tabata Time on Jun 24, 2006 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha
It's even more of a shame that you can't open up a roster spot in a Yahoo league when players get demoted.

by limozeen on Jun 24, 2006 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love
Hughes

by 12to6 on Jun 24, 2006 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hughes
I very, highly doubt tha Hughes gets dealt at all (unless it is for Dontrelle Willis who is still young and a lefty). He has the potential to be the number one ace out of our system that we have not had since Andy Pettite came up. I think that they will give him some time in Double A ball, even though he is dominating the opposition, just so he can go through the trials and tribulations. It seems as if the Yankee system on the right track with Austin Jackson, Eric Duncun, Philip Hughes, J.B. Cox, Brett Gardner, CJ Henry and Jose Tabata. Give or take a year or 2 and we should have a top 10 farm system.
Pain is only temporary. no matter how long it lasts - Ray Lewis

by aNYthing on Jun 24, 2006 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Top 10?!
Hughes is one of my favorite prospects, he's the real deal and a potential ace, but, come on.  C.J. Henry has been a disappointment (though he's got plenty of time to turn it around), Duncan looks like a bust, Tabata's far away from the majors yet, Gardner has limited upside, and the rest of the Yankee pitchers are still in the low minors or hurt or both.  Furthermore, they did not have a particularly good draft this year despite trading up in the first round and gaining a supplemental.  They are not likely to be top ten any time soon.

by abbreviatedman on Jun 25, 2006 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not Good?
They drafted Ian Kennedy(who was to be a top 10 pick before the season began but fell because drop in velocity, even though he is a pitcher that does not rely on velocity but location and deception), Joba Chamberlin(who was penned in to be a top 20 pick even with his injury and has a full repotoire of pitches), Mark Melancon(who is considered to be the best reliever in the draft, who fell due to injury) and Dellin Betances(who is considered to be the biggest potential in the draft and is very raw but has plenty of stuff to get better) all in the top 10 rounds. I do not understand how we exactly had a weak draft this year. Duncun is 21 and was rushed up through the system and it seems as if sending him back down to Double A has helped his psyche. Henry is only 19 and still can turn it around but needs time to develop. Gardner is a Scott Podsednik clone meaning that he will have very little to no power, but can bunt well, steal bases very well and has a very good eye. In 63 games in Double A, he had 43 walks and 30 stolen bases while batting .323. He is already in Double A and hitting .350. Tabata is just Tabata and the numbers speak for themselves right now. I perhaps streched it by saying that the system is a year or 2 away from being top 10, but you cant say that in 2 years or more(after Cox, Hughes and Gardner are probably in the bigs) that the system will not be in the top 10?
Pain is only temporary. no matter how long it lasts - Ray Lewis

by aNYthing on Jun 25, 2006 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Optimism knows no bounds.
Look at how many qualifiers you've got in there, man.  I mean, the Duncan sentence alone is one big apology for his performance the last two years.  Talking about the draft:  This guy WAS to be a top player.  He's got top POTENTIAL.  Was a top 10 pick BEFORE THE SEASON BEGAN.

Aside from Hughes and Tabata, there is no one in the minor league system right now who projects to be a star.  Hughes will likely be out of the minor league system within a year, and has a chance to be a stud, and Tabata's too far away for anyone to be really sure about (though what potential!)  Top 10 systems have guys who have at least the potential to be stars.

As to the draft, hey, maybe I'm wrong and so are most people, it's happened before, but the analysts' consensus seems to be that it was an average at best draft for the Yankees.  Most of the pitchers taken have injury questions, some severe, and most have also (not always coincidentally) had lackluster seasons.  Adding Betances and/or Melancon will make a big difference, but neither is a sure sign and both fell not just because of their high price tag but also because of performance/injury issues.

You will find few people who are not Yankee homers claiming that the team will have a top ten system in the next few years.

But you do have the best pitching prospect still in the minors, so that's pretty awesome.

by abbreviatedman on Jun 25, 2006 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm
he never said it was definite that they are top 10, he said there's a good chance, and given the number of high upside guys in A ball theres sure a chance of it. Just as much of a chance that most of them flame out and the system is near the bottom again

by PooNani on Jun 25, 2006 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...
There's a chance of it, sure, but not a good one.  There's a much better chance that they'll stay pretty much where they are, ranked 17th by BA at the start of the season.  Hughes staying healthy (knock on wood) and continuing to dominate will help them out a lot of course, but regression and stagnation in a lot of their other prospects will balance that out.

Too many of their high-upside low-minors guys have flamed out already to really call them that kind of a system anymore.  Tabata is still definitely there, and to a lesser degree Henry and Jackson.  But Marquez and Garcia have gone nowhere, Nunez and Vechionacci and Battle likewise.  And Gardner and Cox have limited upside, so they don't really fit in that category either.

Furthermore, they had a middle-of-the-pack draft.  So it's not like there's heavy reinforcements.

Basically, for them to be a top 10 system, Duncan would have to rebound from the last two years, and then also Jackson AND Henry AND Tabata would have to fulfill on their promise.  Then it would be a top 10 system.

Put another way, if you look at the level of talent shown by systems like Tampa Bay (err, before the season started), Florida, Cleveland, and the D-Backs, it would take a LOT for this minor league system to change into one of those.  Aside from the very obvious exceptions of Hughes and Tabata, none of their current top players would scratch the top ten of those teams.

by abbreviatedman on Jun 25, 2006 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who already flamed out already?
Marquez has had an excellent year following some early struggles but is on the DL right now, and Garcia they're being very careful with because of an oblique strain. Nacci and Nunez are both 19, and Battle is 20. That's a real stretch to say they're going nowhere. Estee Harris definitely flamed out and I think Poterson is at the end of his rope but theres plenty of optimism here

by PooNani on Jun 25, 2006 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Must Say...
It's way too early to write off Garcia.  His upside is just as good if not higher than Hughes.  His stuff is just downright nasty, but he hasn't been able to prove it with the Yankees taking the Hughes' like approach with him and making sure he's 100% healthy before he starts pitching in actual games.  Though Garcia has a lot of work to do before he can be taken seriously as a top prospect(Get healthy and get his control and command)but still has plenty of time left.

Vechionacci and Nunez are still very young and last time I checked Vechionacci was doing well at Charleston.  But again, both need to step their games up another level. Performing at LowA is nice but it's not saying a lot.

The Yankees most likely won't have a top ten system anytime soon but it's getting better and is improving.  It's still a work in progress and there's a lot of guys who need to start getting their acts together(Duncan, Henry, Clippard, Marquez(is he injuried?  Haven't seen him pitch lately), Vechionacci) But with the Yankees, they just don't depend on their system like the DBacks/Rays/Tigers do.  Maybe they should, and maybe they're starting.(Well, they are starting. Cano, Wang, Cabrera, Beam, etc) - Haven't dealt away Duncan or Hughes like they would have done in previous years. They're starting to get smarter and realizing that producing your own players might not be such a bad thing.  

As far as the draft, I was pleased with it.  Kennedy and Joba are two nice pitching prospects to add.  Same goes for McAllister.  Betances and Melancon are two nice assets if they sign.  If Del Howell signs, he is a major sleeper.  We won't find out for a few years how this draft will turn out but I'd say it was at least an average draft.  But...still doesn't put the Yankees anywhere close to a top ten system.  15-20 could be argued.

by Tabata Time on Jun 25, 2006 3:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that reminds me
Where the hell is Christian Garcia????
(After pitcher tells GM he will pitch half of the games, complete them and they will all be QS)The GM has an orgasm and a heart attack at the same time.-Shamus

by ohad on Jun 25, 2006 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ohad
He's been out all year with an oblique strain, though he had begun throwing in EST about a month or so ago. It's the same thing that kept Steven White out for a big part of '05.
...NJASDJDH...

by Fabian on Jun 25, 2006 1:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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