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lOOKING FOR TALENT, willing to take advice. Also looking for a backup if I cant make draft day.
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Padres look good up the middle for the future
Khalil Greene, Josh Barfield, George Kottaras, Drew Macias, Will Venable, Colt Morton (who will probably move to a corner if he keeps hitting)........I think they need some right-handed pop at the corner OF/IF spots, especially 3B but unfortunately its a pitching deep draft.

I think the target should be the best corner/pitcher available on the board.    

by sdbaseballfan on May 16, 2006 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
with sdbaseballfan

I think that the Pad's should look for someone who can move fairly quickly and perhaps for someone falling because of bonus demands. It doesn't look as though Hochevar is going to fall to us at this point, but it would be great to get a fast moving pitcher whom we could put with Carrillo and Peavy in the rotation in '08.

by paul on May 16, 2006 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Draft Board
Needs SP's and 3rd baseman. It wouldn't help to fill the organization with some speed.

Beggining Board:

  1. Luke Hochevar
  2. Tim Lincecum
  3. Matt Antonelli
  4. Mark Melancon
  5. Wes Hodges
For later rounds, we atleast need to look at drafting Jeremy Barfield, the brother of Josh, has a hitter rather then a pitcher. I wouldn't mind getting a toolsy outfielder like Jon Jay or Shane Robinson in the 2nd round.

by Mix Won Soon on May 17, 2006 1:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Picks we have
17, 35, 53, 61, 93, 123, 153 thru the 1st 5 Rounds

by Mix Won Soon on May 17, 2006 1:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meant to say
it would be nice to get some speedy outfielders

by Mix Won Soon on May 17, 2006 1:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

best available...
PERIOD

target need positions w/ latter picks

I'm intrigued by the HS hitter from Calif... Chris Parmelee (OF/1B)

Also there's talk that 3B (HS) Chris Marrero might fall to the late-teens...

Matt Antonelli (3B, WFU) is likely to be leaving the board about the time we pick

Lastly, you have to love Adrian Cardenas w/ one of the sandwich picks... He's challenging the Florida state HS home run record as 2B (he plays SS but projects as a 2B)

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There are also quite a few good arms available but I'm not as well versed (yet) on the guys who will likely be available when SD picks...

-peter

by PeterF on May 17, 2006 2:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its safe to say
the Padres aren't going to take a HS player with the 1st two picks but I agree to select the best player regardless of his position and if he is a college player or not. I doubt anybody other then Hodges willstill be  available on my board but something crazy could happen after the Giants pick.

I like Bill Rowell, Cody Johnson, Kasey Kiker, and Jeremy Barfield from the HS players.

by Mix Won Soon on May 17, 2006 3:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't be so sure...
Keep in mind, Moneyball's tennent isn't JUST take college guys, it's take undervalued guys. With the rush on college players, HS players are now the undervalued commodity.

Isn't Jeremy Barfield one of the top prepsters for 2007 (not '06)?

-peter

by PeterF on May 18, 2006 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just getting up to speed on Rowell
... 6'5" kid w/ a good body and a HUGE bat, won't stay at SS, I've been told he's like Troy Glaus.

He'll go around #11 (unfortunately). Becoming one of FAVE players in the draft.

-peter

by PeterF on May 21, 2006 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt LePorta?
Seems like a decent fit, although I'm not sure if he's an overdraft at 17.  The Padres seem to have a dearth of corner players and true power hitters.  Haven't been hearing that much buzz about him, but if LaPorta's there at 35, I'd be all over that.

by limozeen on May 17, 2006 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Deporta
Boras is his agent. Do we want to deal with him ?

by Mix Won Soon on May 17, 2006 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Padres' Alderson
...has said that he plans to spend a lot of the $35m coming off the books in areas OTHER than free agency, specifically devoting more resources to drafts, etc.

Don't be surprised if we take Hochevar w/ one of the sandwich picks if he's still on the board.

-peter

by PeterF on May 18, 2006 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hochevar
Why wait for the sandwich pick? If he looks like the layoff hasn't hurt him, take him with the first pick. Too many big money, risk-taking teams between 17 and 35.

by Hurley on May 19, 2006 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Won't matter
I just saw BA's top 30 projection, they have Hochevar going #5 to Seattle but I just got word that he definitely won't last past top 6...

My thinking was that hold-out would hurt his draft status. Alas, not so... the lack of talent in the draft HELPS his status.

-peter

by PeterF on May 20, 2006 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard the Padres linked to...
the following college pitchers:

Kyle McColloch (whom Callis has us taking in BA's mock draft)
Max Sherzer
&
Chris Perez (Univ. Miami closer who we'd turn into a starter)

We're also in HS catcher Hank Conger (who will likely move out from behind the plate and has the bat to do so)...

-peter

by PeterF on May 21, 2006 2:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perez
What are your sources for turning him into a starter? BA just came out with their Top 100 draft prospect scouting reports, and the consensus seems to be that he's a reliever through and through.

by Hurley on May 23, 2006 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!
...won't say...

But he has 3 pitches, let him see if it doesn't work. You can always move a guy back to the 'pen. Plus,  a lot of top closers in the big leagues now have experience as starters...

-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wish List
My current wish list, subject to radical revision:

Sign Breit. We've drafted him twice already, third time's the charm.

With 17, draft Scherzer, Sinkbeil, or Chamberlain. I'll barf if we pop McColloch this high. Seriously, I'll barf if we pop him at all. We paid 950,000 for  Cesar Ramos's "polish" last year. Let's not repeat the mistake.  

Take LaPorta at 35 if he drops that far.

by Hurley on May 23, 2006 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh Breit?
...of course!!!
-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ramos...
...was not my choice for the Padres when we took him last year, but he's actually getting some nice reviews...

Now, that said, despite what all the experts say (this draft's strength is college pitching) I don't want a college pitcher w/ the 17th pick...

-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice reviews
Haven't seen those. Did see one fluff article on how he's in a long line of Long Beach pitchers, but his strikeout rate in the Cal League is borderline pathetic.

by Hurley on May 24, 2006 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I talk
a lot to a guy who won't call himself a scout but really is... Plus he has contacts in literally EVERY MLB organization. Initially scouts did not like Ramos. But after the offseason (which surprisingly came after a lack-luster Low-A showing) they have come around to see him as a nice back-of-the-rotation starter...
-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Christmas presents?
So what, an offseason in which he didn't do anything, followed by a disappointing start to 2006 in High A, and scouts like him MORE? Did he send all those scouts a nice Christmas card and fruitcake?

I'd be seriously surprised if any scout would go on the record with that opinion given his performance this year.

If scouts are calling a 1st round pick a 5 starter less than a year after the draft, it's not a good sign. The organization is littered with potential back-of-the-rotation starters. Last year we had a chance to take a potential #1 with our second pick. This year the pickings are slimmer.

by Hurley on May 24, 2006 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking of a 4th starter
But I believe he went to the instuct leagues and was impressive... (a touch more velocity, more control, more movement, etc.)...
-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why people have started to question scouts
He goes to instructs. No real pressure, a handful of innings, not facing anything like game conditions. Throws a handful of innings, and suddenly he goes from an overdraft to some kind of sleeper? Even though the optimistic revision puts him at a back-end starter?

Maybe I'm overly cynical, but shouldn't a polished college "ace" have performed quite a bit better in Low and High A? Low A, okay, you say it's the end of  a long year of baseball and its a small sample. He follows it up with 23 Ks in 47 innings in High A, the alarm bells should be ringing. If you're already pulling an Eddie Harris at 22 years old, you probably weren't worth the bonus.

by Hurley on May 24, 2006 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I HATED the pick
...so I'm not going to defense that. But now that he's a Padre, I can see his value... His K-rate does does suck, but his ERA & WHIP in the notorious hitter's league that the Cal is, are impressive (2.98 & 1.32).

I'm also glad Fuson is in charge of our draft (even though he does have a history of taking polish over stuff).

-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My worry
WHIP and ERA are less dependent on pitcher skill than K/9. A good defense or a couple of good relief pitchers can help you there, especially in 50 innings. Strikeouts, you're on your own.

Maybe he's got good enough stuff and the minor league umpire strike is causing problems with strikeout numbers. I doubt it.

by Hurley on May 24, 2006 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wish List (so far)
17 Bill Rowell, 3B/OF, NJ prep
Travis Snider, OF, WA prep
Hank Conger, 1B/C, CA prep
35 Kris Johnson, LHP, Witchita St.
53 Dustin Dickerson, bat, Texas prep
61 Dellin Betances, RHP, NY prep
93 Cory Rasmus, RHP, AL prep
Harold Mozingo, RHP, Virg. Commonwealth

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This is what I came up with after pooring through BA's scouting reports and combining my own stat-evals...

Rowell won't be there and I don't think we take a HS bat w/ the 17th pick (though I think we will w/ a Supplamental pick)

I really like Johnson ("Few lefthanders in this draft can match Johnson's stuff... The Orioles, who pick 31st, are known to like him").

I think Rasmus is a sleeper because of his shorter, stout body.

-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 2:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
Maybe have a worse case scenerio and a I can't believe their still on the board scenerio:

Worse Case:

  1. Justin Masterson
  2. Chris Marrero
  3. Kasey Kiker
  4. Kyle McCulloch
  5. Colby Rasmus
Can't Believe Scenerio:
  1. Luke Hochevar
  2. Bill Rowell
  3. Hank Conger
  4. Brett Anderson

by Mix Won Soon on May 24, 2006 9:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

According to BA...
...the players you mentioned are rated:
  1. Luke Hochevar
  2. Kyle McCulloch
  3. Bill Rowell
  4. Brett Anderson
  5. Hank Conger
  6. Chris Marrero
  7. Justin Masterson
28, Kasey Kiker
91. Colby Rasmus

So we likely won't have an opportunity to take Hochevar and Russell is supposedly coming off the board around 10-14... But after those two, we should have our pick of those other players. And I'd like to take Rasmus w/ the 91st pick.

-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Lincecum
Any chance that he'll be available at 17th or even later round given his workload and lack of height?

by MadMonkDharma on May 30, 2006 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No ...
I'd say there's no chance Lincecum will be available @ #17 ... he's been talked about as high as #1 ... I'll be surprised if he's not in Top 10 ...

by LynchMob on May 30, 2006 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LynchMob
is correct, he'll go #1, 3, or 5... from everything I've heard.
-peter

by PeterF on May 30, 2006 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like everything else, this too has changed
The WA hurler will not go #1, and will likely go somewhere between 5 and 11...
-peter

by PeterF on Jun 3, 2006 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, for later rounds
Those were just for my 1st Round choices and Compensation

Am also interested the following players:

  Chet Lemon's son, Marcus Lemon (SS). For some reason, I like taking kids of former Pro's because of their work ethic and he is also pretty good with the glove. He does have a scholarship to Texas so we might have to use a 2nd Round to 3rd pick on him.

RHP Charles Brewer, who was named Arizona's Player of the Year. He never lost in his HS career although I heard that is kind of misleading because he was protected somewhat. May have to overpay him to ignore UCLA.

by Mix Won Soon on May 24, 2006 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha!
Sons of former players have HUGE advantages... Not a bad call...
-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some do
Pete Rose Jr., Sean Burroughs, David Bell, Dale Berra....

by Hurley on May 24, 2006 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

touche
-peter

by PeterF on May 24, 2006 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My board
Here is what I like to see. Whoever drafts for us can use all our boards when in doubt. Lot of signability problems but we have money to change minds. If Marcus Lemon plays himself out of SS, we can move him to the outfield. We would draft Barfield for his bat. Colby for his arm. Bascially our draft would be athletic players that can play multiple positions if needed or forced too.

17th Pick- Kyle McCulloch, Hank Conger
35th pick- Kasey Kiker, Justin Masterson
53rd pick - Marcus Lemon (SS) ( Texas)
61st pick - Charles Brewer ( RHP ) ( UCLA )
93rd pick- Colby Rasmus ( RHP/3rd) (Auburn)
123rd Round- Jon Jay ( Miami - OF)
153rd pick- Jeremy Barfield (RHP/OF)  

by Mix Won Soon on May 25, 2006 3:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kris Johnson
BA ranks him #45

Johnson went 10-0 during his 1st 2 seasons at Witchita St. but blew out his elbow. TJ is becoming a ho-hum surgery so I don't have concerns there.

He hasn't been strugling coming back from TJ and he's still getting it all back. BA says he has as much left-handed stuff as almost anyone in the draft.

Stats so far:

W L ERA  G  SV IP H  BB SO
6 1 3.11 12 0  46 42 16 44

I REALLY like this kid.

-peter

by PeterF on May 25, 2006 9:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what about
Blair Erickson from UC Irvine:

W L SV ERA  G  GS IP   H  BB SO
5 0 13 2.22 27 2  48.2 38 32 52

by MadMonkDharma on May 30, 2006 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erickson
BA ranks him #130, so I could see a Padres-esque team taking him, but having read scouting reports on him, he doesn't excite me like some of the players I pointed out down at the bottom of the thread.
-peter

by PeterF on May 30, 2006 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andrew Carpenter
MLB's draftniks are linking us to Andrew Carpenter.

Why on earth would we take a fringe stuff pitchability guy at 17? Carpenter and McCulloch would be huge reaches.

by Hurley on May 25, 2006 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BA...
ranks Carpenter as the 98th best prospect available... If we like him that much, we should be able to get him in the 2nd (or 3rd) round
-peter

by PeterF on May 26, 2006 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch MLB...
...soley for the information they provide about the individual prospects.

When it comes to predicting 'who goes where,' they suck...

My sources told me McColloch, Perez, Sherzer, or Conger...

-peter

by PeterF on May 25, 2006 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dallas Buck
I'll post a nomenation for Dallas Buck as a possible later-round pick ...

He's the #1 starter for Oregon St. ... we'll get to see him pitch in the post-season again this year ...

At this time a year ago, the buzz was that he would be a 2006 first round pick ...

For reasons that are either unknown or not public, his velocity is down this year ... but he's still winning ... and the reports are saying he's healthy ...

Here's his bio ... http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=24962&SPID=1962&DB_OEM_ID=4700&ATCLID=1 30913&Q_SEASON=2005

Current stats are ...

Player                 ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG SHO/CBO SV    IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  2B  3B  HR   AB B/Avg   WP HBP  BK  SFA SHA
 2 Buck, Dallas.....  2.95  10-2    15  15   1   0/2    0  94.2  66  34  31  44  68  14   0   5  326  .202    3  19   3    3   3

My take is that he'll be underdrafted ... in other words, I think he'll go in the 3rd round ... and a year or 2 from now, the consensus will be that that was too low ...

I'm not suggesting that we reach for him ... just that we be the team that gets him ...

by LynchMob on May 26, 2006 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've talked about this...
...with a friend...

Right now my (realistic) wish list is:

17th Pick - Travis Snider, HS, OF
35th pick - Kris Johnson, Wich. St., LHP
53rd pick - Dustin Dickerson, HS, 1B
61st pick - Dellin Betances, HS, RHP
93rd pick - Colby Rasmus HS, RHP
123rd pick - Jeremy Barfield, HS, OF
153rd pick - ???

I've heard Snider has moved ahead of Conger on the Padres' wish list. I've got no problems w/ that. Today in BA's chat, Callis said Snider's bad was better than Rowell's...

I do know the Padres have spent quite a bit of time looking at the young Barfield and I think I've heard people say his bat will play better than Josh's...

Johnson, Dickerson, and Betances are all my choices... Dickerson and Betances are not SD-type picks... The rest is in line w/ the Padres could/would do.

I could EASILY see the Padres taking Buck w/ the 53rd or 61st picks and DEFINITELY w/ the 93rd if he was still there. I wouldn't mind losing out on any of the guys I have at 53, 61, or 93 and getting Buck instead...

-peter

by PeterF on May 27, 2006 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

New Wish List
17th Pick - Travis Snider, HS, OF
Bill Rowell, HS, 3B/OF
Hank Conger HS, 1B/C
Kyle McColloch, Texas, RHP

35th pick - Kris Johnson, Wich. St., LHP
Dallas Buck, U. of Oregon, RHP
Chris Perez, U. of Miami, RHP
Lars Anderson, HS, 1B

53rd pick - Wes Hodges, Ga. Tech, 3B
Chad Tracy, Pepperdine, C
Dustin Dickerson, HS, 1B

61st pick - Tony Watson, Neb., LHP
Matt Sulentic, HS, OF/2B
Josh Butler, USD, RHP
Dellin Betances, HS, RHP

93rd pick - Harold Mozingo, VaCommonwealth, RHP
Colby Rasmus HS, RHP
Wade LeBlanc, 'Bama, LHP

123rd pick - Jeremy Barfield, HS, OF
Jeff Inman, HS, RHP
Sean O'Sullivan, Grossmont JC, RHP

153rd pick - Matt McBride, Lehigh, C
Kyle Smith, HS, RHP
Jacob Brigham, HS, RHP
Martin Beno, Miss. Gulf Coast CC, RHP

-peter

by PeterF on May 30, 2006 2:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GAAK!
Peter - go wash your hands!

Dallas Buck plays for Oregon St ... NOT what you type'd in ... them's fightin' words!!!

by LynchMob on May 30, 2006 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft & Follow ...
Padres just signed 3 guys from last year ... http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261491.html ... good news!

by LynchMob on May 30, 2006 6:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Padres have lacked...
...big velocity pitchers...

Getting these three for probably less than $300k combined (especially in a weak draft) is nice. It's like getting 3 extra 3-6 round players.

A HUGE get

-peter

by PeterF on May 30, 2006 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

New Information:
I was informed that Jeremy Barfield has acquired a bit of helium... Unsurprisingly, San Diego has a strong interest but other teams do too. I was also told that in all likelihood, if the Padres want Barfield, they'll have to take him w/ the 91st pick.

At the 91st pick Barfield isn't the value that he is at the 123rd. San Diego has 4 of the first 61 selectios. So getting another top 100 guy AND getting Barfield at 123 would be a nice way to add some talent in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

So is Barfield a bad idea at #91?

Maybe...

While you DEFINITELY want to take the best available in the first round (heck, w/ the first few picks) as get to the middle rounds, you start filling in organizational holes as you get to later rounds.

How does that affect Barfield you ask?

Well, if the Padres take a prep bat early, it would make it less likely they'd pop another in the 3rd round.

Go back up and look at my wish list...

If the Padres take a pitcher (McColloch) w/ the 17th pick, then grabbing Barfield at 91 makes more sense. But if they take Snider (like I want) then a Mozingo or LeBlanc might make more sense.

What do I think about all that?

Do you care? LOL - Do I care if you care? - JK - I say we have a few nice arms, take Snider & Barfield...

Here's my updated 1-player wish list at each pick:

17th Pick - Travis Snider, Wash. HS, OF
35th pick - Kris Johnson, Wich. St., LHP
53rd pick - Adam Ottovino, Northwestern, RHP (new find)
61st pick - Tony Watson, Neb., LHP
93rd pick - Jeremy Barfield, Texas HS, OF
123rd pick - Jeff Inman, Cali HS, RHP
153rd pick - Matt McBride, Lehigh, C

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I'd REALLY like to see the Padres have the ability to take Bryan Morris w/ the 35th pick. Morris was a TB "Draft and follow" who didn't sign (as I'm sure most of you know). BA ranks him 29th, but he could be underscouted and could slide a bit.

Another guy I REALLY like, is 76st rated Chad Lee out of Barton County CC in Kansas. Check these stats:

1.80 ERA, 17 G, 66 IP, 38 H, 23 BB, 118 SO

Alright, this has gotten long enough...

-peter

by PeterF on May 31, 2006 12:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wish List - Defined
17th Pick - Travis Snider, Jackson High School, Everett, WA - OF

Snider hit .522 as a Washington St. prep outfielder smacking 8 2B and 10 HR.

35th pick - Kris Johnson, Wich. St. Univ. - LHP

A Tommy-John alumnus, has his velocity back (88-93) and is still regaining command of his 3 pitches.

3.11 ERA, 12 G, 46 IP, 42 H, 16 BB, 44 SO

53rd pick - Adam Ottovino, Northwestern Univ. - RHP

Ottovino a rare college pitcher who is projectable and could still add velocity. His 92-95 fastball is his best pitch.

2.85 ERA, 12 G, 82 IP, 57 H, 29 BB, 105 SO

61st pick - Tony Watson, Neb., LHP

As a prepster, Watson posted a 0.10 ERA. As a college junior he posted a 0.87 ERA. Like Ottovino, his frame suggests there may be more velocity coming... He currently throws a 88-92 fastball.

0.87 ERA, 10 G, 64 IP, 29 H, 8 BB, 93 SO

93rd pick - Jeremy Barfield, Klien High School, Spring, TX - OF

The brother of current Padres 2B Josh, Jeremy is a 6'6" specimen with a great bat. He hit .447 with 7 2B and 10 HR as a Texas prep outfielder.

123rd pick - Jeff Inman, Cali Garces High School, Bakersfield, CA - RHP

Growing from a 5'11" sophomore to a 6'3" senior, Inman regularly hits 95 with his fastball. Inman may be a tough sign with his Stanford commitment.

2.26 ERA, 10 G, 43 IP, 33 H, 5 BB, 69 SO

153rd pick - Matt McBride, Lehigh Univ. - C

McBride has always been a good "catch and throw" catcher, but this year he worked hard on his bat and put up a .421 season with 17 2B and 10 HR. McBride is more athletic than your typical catcher and has 21 stolen bases to prove it.

Others to consider:

Bryan Morris (at 35) Motlow State CC, Tennessee - RHP

Morris is a rare premiere pitcher in the draft. He may deserve consideration with 17th pick. He regularly throws 90-93 fastballs flashing occasional 95's.

0.91 ERA, 14 G, 79 IP, 35 H, 20 BB, 108 SO

Chad Lee (at 91 or 123) Barton County CC, Kansas - RHP

Chad hails from the Juco ranks. He had a forearm "twinge" that dropped him from 2nd round consideration. He still posted impressive numbers and has already regained his 91-95 velocity, but needs to get back to his pre-injury dominant self.

1.80 ERA, 17 G, 1 SV, 66 IP, 38 H, 23 BB, 118 SO

Matt Sulentic (at 65 or 91) Hillcrest High School, Dallas, TX - OF/2B

A left-handed hitter, Matt hit a Texas state 4A/5A best 19 jacks while hitting .676 with 5 2B and earning the Dallas Metroplex area triple crown. His defense could be an issue, but his bat should play.

-peter

by PeterF on May 31, 2006 1:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beato and Morris back in the draft
That may help us at 17.

by Hurley on May 31, 2006 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point!
-peter

by PeterF on May 31, 2006 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Updated Board
With those 3 players going back into the draft it will make a domino effect without even factoring in Mr Boras. The Padres are in a position to load up.

My Board has changed:

17th Pick - Bryan Morris or Bill Rowell
35th pick - Hank Conger,Kiker,or Masterson
53rd pick - Marcus Lemon
93rd pick - Jeremy Barfield or Colby Rasmus
153rd pick - John Jay

by Mix Won Soon on May 31, 2006 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just got off the phone...
...w/ Paul (1 of my best friends), who posts here often.. We both love Morris and would consider him @ 17, but not over Snider. Then we'd both snap him in an instant @ 35...

One thing, Rowell won't be available @ 17... He's almost certainly going 11-14

In order:

17th Pick - Travis Snider, Bill Rowell, Bryan Morris, McColloch

35th pick - Bryan Morris, Kris Johnson, Dallas Buck

53rd pick - Adam Ottovino, Tony Watson

61st pick - Tony Watson, Matt Sulentic, Josh Butler

93rd pick - Jeremy Barfield or Colby Rasmus

123rd pick - Jeff Inman...(?)

153rd pick - Matt Mcbride... (?)

-peter

by PeterF on May 31, 2006 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See how he does this weekend ...
We'll see how Dallas does in the Regional this weekend ... but as things are now, I think 35th pick is a reach ... ie. I think he'll still be there for 53rd/61st.

Are any of these other guys playing in Regionals?

by LynchMob on May 31, 2006 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not lights out ...
Dallas didn't shine ... http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=24958&SPID=1962&DB_OEM_ID=4700&ATCLID=2 90241 ... but did well enough for Beavers to win ... his #s = 6.0 IP,  6 H,  3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB,  7 K ... not bad, but not anything that's going to helium him ...

(Stanford's Greg Reynolds helped himself with CG win over NC St ... )

by LynchMob on Jun 3, 2006 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just out of curiousty...
are you giving away our 61st & 123rd picks?

;-)

-peter

by PeterF on May 31, 2006 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Complete board :)
17th Pick - Bryan Morris or Bill Rowell
35th pick - Justin Masterson
53rd pick - Wade Leblanc
61st pick - Marcus Lemon
93rd pick - Jeremy Barfield
123rd pick - Colby Rasmus
153rd pick - John Jay

by Mix Won Soon on May 31, 2006 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Other than Rowell & Rasmus...
...that would work (Rowell will be off the board by 15). I don't think either will be there when we select at 17 & 123...

But beyond that, I could see that playing out.

If Rowell is gone (a virtual certainty) and Snider goes before we can take him, I'd LOVE to get Morris. I think when all is said and done, he might have best career from any pitcher in this draft.

Masterson & LeBlanc are solid picks & I love Barfield.

I'm not a Lemon fan but we do need some middle infielders if for nothing else than just to field some minor league teams.

I'm a HUGE 'Canes fan (in football - and I LOVED that we got Carillo last year). That said, I don't know if JJ is an MLB outfielder. But if he's there at 153, I wouldn't complain.

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 1, 2006 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

June Madness!
In case you didn't notice, Baseball America is doing the bracket-thing!

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/cws/bracketchallenge/

Should be FUN!

by LynchMob on May 31, 2006 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New Info...
My sources tell me that the Padres are considering 3 players they expect to be able to choose from at 17.

Two of those players are guys we have already talked about in this forum: Conger & McColloch, I do not feel comfortable disclosing the 3rd  player... (I also don't feel comfortable w/ the Padres taking that 3rd player.)

On a related note: Snider is likely to be off the board between 12-16 so that may be why he is out of the Padres' discussions.

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 1, 2006 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

K.D.?
If we pop Drabek because he slips, I'll be happy as all get out.

by Hurley on Jun 2, 2006 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too!!!
Especially after I read the BA article. That made me less concerned, not more...

Everything I've heard though says he'll go more around 11-14. I don't really expect the Padres to have the chance to decide.

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 2, 2006 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

comments on Conger & Morris
When asked about Bryan Morris in BA's chat today, John Manuel said:

John Manuel: I'm a big Morris guy, he kind of sounds like Kyle Sleeth to me with a bigger arm, and the athleticism to make his delivery, where he throws across his body, work. He might be best suited to the bullpen. I like him as much as Pedro Beato among the DFE guys, longer track record of success and similar stuff, though the arm doesn't work as easily.

* * *

Asked about who would be best player from this draft in 5 years, Manuel said, "I'll go out on a limb and say Hank Conger. Love a switch-hitting catcher with power and off-the-charts makeup and work ethic."

* * *

Sounds good to me!!!

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 2, 2006 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'ved talked to a few people...
and it really looks like the Padres will attempt to draft w/ some balance... (what does he mean by that?)

If the Padres get Conger in the first, I don't think they'll take Barfield at #93. If the Padres take one of the 2 college pitchers they're considering (that's a hint about who the unmentioned prospect is) I think they WILL take Barfield in the 3rd (assuming he's there to take).

One scenario:

17th Pick - Hank Conger, prep C/1B
35th pick - Bryan Morris, JC RHP
53rd pick - Matt Sulentic, prep OF
61st pick - Chad Lee, JC RHP
93rd pick - Harold Mozingo, Col RHP
123rd pick - Jeff Inman, prep RHP
153rd pick - Matt Mcbride, Col. C (probably unlikely if they take Conger at 17)

Another scenario:

17th Pick - Kyle McColloch, Col. RHP
35th pick - Bryan Morris, JC RHP
53rd pick - Matt Sulentic, prep OF
61st pick - Chad Lee, JC RHP
93rd pick - Jeremy Barfield, prep OF
123rd pick - Jeff Inman, prep RHP
153rd pick - Matt Mcbride, Col C

* * *

Let me just say, I will be SOOO stoked if the Padres get Conger & Morris.

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 3, 2006 1:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"The only constant in the world..."
"...is change"

As I posted on John's personal rankings,

Padres were looking at Conger @ 17, but he's caught a bit of helium in the last 48 hours (private workouts, etc.) possibly at the expense of the Snider. The Padres had crossed Snider off their list (because they thought Snider would be gone). Now the Padres are deciding between Snider, McColloch, and another undiscloseed collegiate pitcher...

I don't know if I started feeling some ownership of Conger or what, but I was pretty disappointed to hear we likely will not have a shot at him. The only pick-me-up is that Snider will now likey BE available for us. I really think taking either of the 2 college pitchers were looking at would be a mistake.

I was also told that Morris at 35 is unlikely. The good news, is that he'll likely still be available at 53... However, his bonus demands may be such that he could be planning on transfering to U. Tenn. then coming back to the draft in '08...

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 3, 2006 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Latest Wishlist
17th Pick - Travis Snider, prep OF
35th pick - Kris Johnson, Col. LHP
53rd pick - Bryan Morris, JC RHP
61st pick - Tony Watson, Col. LHP
93rd pick - Jeremy Barfield, prep OF
123rd pick - Jeff Inman, prep RHP
153rd pick - Matt Mcbride, Col C

*

Initially I had the Padres taking the prep OF from Texas, Sulentic, but if we get Snider and want Barfield then I don't think we'll take Sulentic. I doubt we take 3 high school corner-OF types in the first 3 rounds... Now if we bypass Snider (for a college arm early) or take Conger, I'd take Sulentic & Barfield. Likewise, if we take Conger, I'd pass on McBride and take Martin Beno (JC RHP).

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 3, 2006 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kyle McColloch knocked around today ...
Stanford hit his well ... he didn't get greatest defensive support ... but his final line reads: 4 IP, 25 BF, 9 H, 8 R, 6 ER, 2K, 2 BB ... this by a Stanford team that I didn't think should have been invited to the post-season ...

by LynchMob on Jun 3, 2006 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good,
...maybe this will be enough to push a HS bat over the top for the Padres decision-makers.

I also hope Buck's struggles will allow us to grab him w/ a later pick (but I'd rather take Byran Morris).

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 3, 2006 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Cody, Sr. LHP from Manhattan
Ryguy @ Ducksnorts puts forth this nomination for pick #153 :-)

I know we've got a college baseball thing going here so I'll say since my school (Marist) is a MAAC school... Manhattan beat Nebraska (#6 national seed I think) 4-1 on Friday.

the kid who shut them down, Senior Chris Cody, supposedly has a really good changeup and used that to strike out 7. I wouldn't mind seeing the Padres taking a flyer on this lefty arm. Even though he threw 142 pitches in this CG, he pitched to a 1.42 ERA this year....

One MAAC pitcher who has made the Padres roster Scott Cassidy (LeMoyne).

... I can't find any buzz on him at this web site, but here's what BA said in it's regional preview ...

The Jaspers set a school record for wins by coming out on the good end of nine of their last 10 games. Senior lefthander Chris Cody won the MAAC pitching triple crown with 11-2, 1.45 numbers and 98 strikeouts in 99 innings. He threw a complete-game shutout with 10 strikeouts against Tulane in Manhattan's season opener.

by LynchMob on Jun 3, 2006 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jonah Nickerson? ... and 2 other Beavers ...
I'm listening to Oregon St's Regional game vs Kansas ... and Nickerson's season stats are somewhat similar to Cody's ... here's his bio: http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=24962&SPID=1962&DB_OEM_ID=4700&ATCLID=1 30959&Q_SEASON=2005 ... and here's his 2006 stats: http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4700&KEY=&ATCLID=158527&SPID=1962&a mp;SPSID=25133 =

....................   ERA   W-L   APP  GS  CG SHO/CBO SV    IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  2B  3B  HR   AB B/Avg   WP HBP  BK  SFA SHA
34 Nickerson, Jonah.  2.61   9-4    15  15   3   1/1    0 100.0  94  33  29  27  97  15   3   4  372  .253    3   5   0    6   5

... don't know if either of these guys (Cody or Nickerson) will go in first 5 rounds ... seems unlikely ... but just in case.

If you go to that stats link for Oregon St, 2 other guys that seem like for sure will be drafted somewhere are Cole Gillespie, and OF'er who was the Pac-10 Player of the Year, and Kevin Gunderson, the Beaver's closer for 3 years now ... again, don't know if they'll go in first 5 rounds ...

by LynchMob on Jun 3, 2006 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got no prob...
taking flyers on less heralded guys who've put up good stats at small colleges (Ekstrom, who is Hi-A and doing well, hails from my alma mater, Point Loma Naz. Univ. and is only an NAIA school). However, I don't think Cody is a guy we HAVE to take in the 5th to get him. McBride and Beno are both guys who are valued by many teams. If we don't get them in 5th, we don't get them at all...
-peter

by PeterF on Jun 3, 2006 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree ...
I agree with you 100%, Peter!  I'm just brainstorming here :-)

by LynchMob on Jun 3, 2006 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KEEP brainstorming!
There are a lot of bright Padres fans out there. Not to get biblical on you, but "as iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another."

Keep putting ideas out there. Because that's how we figure things out.

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 4, 2006 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sulentic
I once read an article about hitting, I think it was more of an interview, but the person "talking" said something that jumped out at me. He said he was taught to keep your head as still as possible while you were hitting. It was hard enough to judge what a pitch was doing, or going to do, but when you moved your own head, you changed your own visual plane while the ball was changing planes itself; thus making a difficult job (hitting) more difficult.

Now, I'm not a scout, but I just watched the Matt Sulentic video on MLB.com. Sulentic has a real quiet head While I won't compare Sulentic to Albert Pujols, I will say that's who I thought of (because Albert's head is freakishly quiet when he swings).

I won't say the Padres should draft Sulentic just because of his quiet head, but I was already a Sulentic fan... Do I want him over Snider? No. More than Barfield? Can I have more time to answer that one?

* * *

I was also real impressed w/ Martin Beto's video... Ottovino's video soured me on him. I also really like Rasmus.

-peter

by PeterF on Jun 4, 2006 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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