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Young Pitcher Symposium: Noah Lowry

Young Pitcher Symposium: Noah Lowry
       Noah Lowry was drafted by the San Francisco Giants in the first round of the 2001 draft, out of Pepperdine, 30th overall. Most teams saw him as a second or third-round talent, not seeing him as a first-round guy because he doesn't have a blazing fastball, but the Giants liked his polish (and his affordable price tag). Assigned to Salem-Keizer in the Northwest League after signing, he went 1-1, 3.60 in 25 innings, with a 28/8 K/BB ratio. I gave him a Grade C+ in the 2002 book, noting that he would probably do well in Class A, but that Double-A might prove a tougher challenge "as it is for most finesse guys."
      Lowry opened 2002 at Class A San Jose in the California League. Stat-wise, he had an excellent year: 2.15 ERA, 62/20 K/BB in 59 innings, only 38 hits allowed. But note the 59 innings. . .he missed more than half the season laid up with a sore shoulder. Surgery was avoided, but "shoulder soreness" is never a good sign. Nevertheless, I increased his grade to B- in the 2003 book. His ratios were very good.
     Moved up to Double-A for `03, Lowry went 9-6 but with an ugly 4.72 ERA. He allowed 127 hits in 118 innings. His K/BB was 97/47. These aren't particularly good numbers, but the scouting reports remained strong, and he did well in a 4-start trial in Triple-A (2.37 ERA). He also threw six shutout innings at the major league level. The best news was that he stayed healthy all year. Although his Double-A numbers were not very impressive overall, I raised his grade to a straight B in the 2004 book, based on the scouting reports and an intuitive feeling that he would break through soon.
     Lowry split '04 between Triple-A and the majors, actually pitching better at the major league level than he did in the minors. He went 13-13, 3.78 in 33 starts in 2005, with a 172/76 K/BB ratio. A lot of people consider him a candidate for major improvement in 2006, though personally I think the big step forward will wait until '07.
     Bullet points about Noah Lowry:

*Scouting Report: Lowry works with a fastball clocked anywhere between 86 and 92 MPH. He will alter the grip to vary movement on the pitch, and it often looks faster to the eye than the radar gun due to the contrast with his other pitches. His delivery is deceptive, which also helps. His slider is decent, and he has an excellent changeup. He has a classic lefthander build at 6-2, 210 pounds. Scouts praise his work ethic and pitching sense.

*Stats: Although Lowry doesn't have a superb fastball, his component ratios last year were more like those of a power pitcher, with a fairly high strikeout rate but more walks than you see from a perfect finesse guy. Note that K/IP and velocity are not perfectly correlated. If a guy racks up strikeouts, even without a 95 MPH fastball, that's good! I'd take a pitcher who strikes people out with a mediocre heater over a guy with a hot fastball who never fans anyone. Lowry's control numbers were better in the minors, and I think that we will see a steady reduction in walks as he gains experience and confidence.

*Health: This is the only thing I really worry about. It's been two years since his shoulder trouble, but that sort of thing can recur easily.

Comparable Pitchers to Noah Lowry through age 24
   Sterling Hitchcock
   Jim O'Toole
   Chris Nabholz
   Ron Bryant
   Jamie Moyer
   Scott McGregor
   Scott Karl

Hitchcock was solid at times but had problems with durability and fell apart physically at age 29.
O'Toole was an above-average starting pitcher from age 24 through age 27, but got hurt at that point. His career was over at age 30.
Nabholz was an above-average starting pitcher from age 24 through age 26, but got hurt at that point. Career over at 28.
Bryant was an above-average starting pitcher at age 24 and 25, but got hurt. His career was over at 27.
Moyer had some early success but went through a rough patch in his late 20s. He re-emerged at age 30 and has been a successful pitcher ever since, winning 13 games last year at age 42.
McGregor was an above-average starting pitcher from age 24 through age 29. He remained in the regular Baltimore rotation until age 33, though he was only mediocre the last few seasons.
Karl was an above-average starting pitcher at age 24 and 25, mediocre at 26 and 27, then fell apart.

As you can see, five of the seven comparable pitchers were finished as effective pitchers before the age of 30. McGregor held on for awhile longer, and Moyer has lasted forever (although even he struggled in his late 20s). None of this means that Lowry is doomed, but it does show that he will have to fight the odds. My best guess: Lowry's 2006 will look a lot like his 2005. He will have an outstanding season in 2007, then back off a bit in 2008, then gradually fade out as McGregor did.

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Reuter?
Not surprised to see Moyer on the list as he was the first guy that came to mind reading this.  Also sounds a lot like Kirk Reuter.

I'm excited about him and liked seeing what he did last year.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the same numbers as last year.

by lenred on Mar 21, 2006 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

I don't....
really see the Reuter comp.  As John noted, Lowry has the component numbers of a power pitcher whereas Reuter has the component numbers of a  highschool pitcher (I kid, sortof).  I guess they share a handedness and lack of overwhelming velocity.

by kenshin1 @ Minor League Ball on Mar 21, 2006 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

reuter
Reuter didn't have sustained success until age 26, so he doesn't show up on the comp lists.

by John Sickels on Mar 21, 2006 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

It's spelled Rueter!!
Sorry. Kinda just being an anal fan, though Kirk Rueter is the greatest southpaw in San Francisco Giants history, so I think he deserves to have his name spelled correctly.

And yeah, I agree that Noah Lowry is comparatively a far cry from from Rueter. I'd tab Lowry, albeit he is a lefty, somewhere between Kirk Saarloos and Ryan Madson.

by StickRat on Mar 23, 2006 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Lowry talk
For some reason, I've always liked this guy. Obviously, I would like him alot better if he could stay around that 92 mph mark. Seems like he will be an effective starter for serveral years.
Please fire Dusty Baker!

by Buddy on Mar 21, 2006 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

For those....
who have never seen Lowry pitch,he really does have a remarkable change.  He drops the velocity by 10-15 mph (in fact, I remember reading a scouting report claiming he took too much off the changeup).

by kenshin1 @ Minor League Ball on Mar 21, 2006 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Y Petit
has a similar scouting report as Lowry from the right side. Hopefully he'll enjoy similar early success in his career.

by akk99 on Mar 21, 2006 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

FWIW
If you take out 3 or 4 very bad starts at Coors field, his numbers really shine.

And he is a great hitter, for a pitcher.

by irwin @ Minor League Ball on Mar 21, 2006 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

One thing...
...that doesn't show up on these scouting reports is the improved curveball. In the second half of last season, it became a wicked out pitch.

by Grant on Mar 21, 2006 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

My 2 Cents
I remember the first inkling I had that Lowry might be more than just another piece of trade fodder for Brian Sabean.  It was during that September callup in 2003 and I was watching him pitch against the Dodgers on TV.  He threw a couple of the most beautiful changeups I've ever seen.  I forget who the batters were. I think one was Adrian Beltre and he's still swinging at that pitch.

Fast forward to 2004.  Lowry had gotten off to a horrible start in the spring(like he always seems to.  More on that later).  He righted the ship with a couple of good starts for Fresno and then the Giants rotation fell apart.  He pitched a great game against the Dodgers and then got sent back down.  Called up again in late July, he was the starting pitcher for the first game I ever attended at PacBell/SBC/AT&T against the Cincinnati Reds.  What a game that was!  The Reds were lunging at the changeup all night.  I think Wily Mo Pena is still swinging at one of them.  He took a no-hitter into the 7'th inning and ended up with a complete game 3 hit shutout with, I believe, double digit K's.  He ended up with the longest winning streak to start a Giants career since Juan Marichal, pretty fast company there.

Last year hitters seemed to be sitting on the change.  They still didn't hit it very often, but good enough that Lowry was struggling, or was it just his annual slow start?  His pattern so far is that he pitches horribly in April and May, starts to heat up in June and pitches great from the 4'th of July on.

Interestingly, when I went back and read his early scouting reports, there was no mention of the changeup.  What was mentioned was that a plus curveball was his best pitch.  Is the changeup something he picked up in the minors?  Did the scouting reports just overlook the changeup?  Someone who said they knew him at Pepperdine commented on the Giants website Message Board that Lowry had a "crazy changeup" in college.

The curveball that emerged, or re-emerged late last year appeared to be above average.  If he can maintain his velocity of 88-91 MPH, and hang onto the curve and changeup he could be very good.  He needs to do something about the slow starts in the Spring.

I'm not sure if any of the pitchers listed as comparisons had quite the velocity that Lowry has.  Maybe this is just irrational exuberance from a Giants homer, but I and several folks over on the Giants message board have compared him to a young Tom Glavine.  Is that too much of a stretch?  I guess it will depend on 3 things:

  1. Maintenance of good health.
  2. Maintenance of 3 big league pitches.
  3. Overcoming the slow starts.
Overall, Noah Lowry is one of the most interesting young pitchers to don a Giants uniform in the last, oh 40 years or so that I've been following them.

One more thing.  He is a helluva hitter for a pitcher.

by DrBGiantsfan on Mar 21, 2006 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

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