Prospect Retro: Eric Davis
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Prospect Retro: Eric Davis
Per reader request, a prospect Retro for Eric Davis.
Some of you young'uns won't remember Eric Davis early in his career, but back in the ancient past of the 1980s, he was the ultimate tools player.
The Cincinnati Reds drafted Davis in the eighth round in 1980, out of Fremont High School in Los Angeles. A tremendous athlete, Davis was a childhood friend of Darryl Strawberry, the first pick in the draft that year. Davis was well-known as a basketball player as an amateur. Davis had first-round tools, but was rather raw when drafted, keeping him out of the earliest rounds. Assigned to Eugene in the Northwest League right out of high school, he hit just .219 in 33 games with a poor .274 SLG, though he did manage to steal 10 bases. He also drew 14 walks in 88 plate appearances, a solid ratio. At this point he would have rated as a Grade C prospect, mostly on the basis of his athleticism and youth. Originally a shortstop, he played poorly defensively and moved to the outfield the following season.
Davis returned to Eugene in 1981 and tore the cover off the ball, hitting .322 with a .561 SLG, hitting 11 homers in 214 at-bats, and stealing 40 bases. He also posted an excellent 57/59 BB/K ratio. Yes, he was repeating the league. But he was still just 19, and his combination of speed, patience, and developing power got him noticed. Now an outfielder, he took to center field easily and quickly emerged as a top-flight defender, with plus range and a good arm. He'd rate a Grade B or perhaps B+ prospect given his progress.
Moved up to Cedar Rapids in the Midwest League for 1982, Davis leveled out a bit, hitting .276 with a .449 SLG, with 15 homers, 51 walks, 103 strikeouts in 434 at-bats. He also stole 53 bases, and continued to demonstrate good outfield defense. Again, he would be something like a B+ prospect. Could he maintain his plate discipline at higher levels?
Davis moved up to Double-A in 1983, adjusting easily to the level, hitting .290 with a .495 SLG and 39 steals in just 89 games for Waterbury in the Eastern League. He drew 65 walks against 75 strikeouts. Promoted to Triple-A Indianapolis, he continued to hit with a .299 mark and a .623 SLG, though his strikeout rate increased to over once per game and his walk rate dropped. Still, given his age he did just fine. At this point, he was considered one of the top prospects in baseball. Retrospectively, he'd rate as a Grade A or A- prospect and likely one of the top five or ten hitting prospects in the game.
Davis split 1984 between Triple-A Wichita (hitting .314 with a .629 SLG and 27 steals in just 52 games) and the majors, where he hit just .224/.320/.466 with 10 steals for the Reds. He was overmatched at times in the Show, though he was certainly exciting to watch due to his speed, power, and outfield defense. 1985 was another split season between Triple-A and the majors, but he emerged as a full time outfielder with the Reds in 1986, hitting .277/.378/.523 with 27 homers and 80 steals.
Younger fans likely remember the aging Davis from the late 1990s. But when he was young, he was possibly the most exciting player in baseball. . .blazing fast, lanky, lots of power in his bat. He'd take a walk. He also got hurt a lot, never playing more than 135 games in a full season. He was constantly hampered with muscle pulls and strains, knee problems, fractures, bruises, sprains, bone chips, etc. Look at that picture I posted of Davis, circa 1987. See any body fat on him? Perhaps 10 pounds of fat would have given him a bit extra padding. That wouldn't have helped the colon cancer that almost ended his career (and his life) in 1997, but he fought his way back.
Power, speed, patience, defense. . .Davis had it all, a complete Seven Skill player. He had Hall of Fame talent, though his inability to stay healthy likely inhibited his performance and certainly prevented him from racking up enough counting numbers to get in. If Davis had played his prime during the high-octane late 1990s, he would have put up monstrous numbers.
Comparable Players to Eric Davis
Kirk Gibson
Larry Doby
Darryl Strawberry
Ray Lankford
Active comps include Andruw Jones and Reggie Sanders.
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the new davis?
by levski on
Mar 11, 2006 2:57 PM EST
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dayn perry's article
on Chris Young, AZ (#3 on Perry's 100 list)
"In terms of upside, Young could be a healthy Eric Davis. Yeah, he's that promising."
by levski on
Mar 11, 2006 3:03 PM EST
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well
I think the Cameron comp seems like the best.
by irwin on
Mar 11, 2006 3:08 PM EST
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pecota
the K numbers aren't really that worrisome, imo, as young played in a really tough league for hitters. a season in the PCL is all the doctor prescribed for him. needless to say, i think young's batting average in the majors will be a lot higher than cameron's.
by levski on
Mar 11, 2006 3:13 PM EST
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personally
by irwin on
Mar 11, 2006 4:11 PM EST
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well, sure
by levski on
Mar 11, 2006 4:18 PM EST
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Hmmm
If a player is going to K a lot, sure, I would rather see some walks too. But I would feel more confident in a player's chances with fewer k's. I think it goes more to the bust factor than the upside factor. I'd be curious to see the k rates of MLB all-stars when they were in the minors.
As far a Young, his k rate so high that it bugs me a lot.
by irwin on
Mar 11, 2006 6:58 PM EST
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K's
by DrBGiantsfan on
Mar 11, 2006 8:03 PM EST
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In the majors, yes
by irwin on
Mar 12, 2006 6:20 PM EST
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left unsaid
by irwin on
Mar 11, 2006 6:59 PM EST
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speaking of upton ...
by chris p on
Mar 12, 2006 1:02 PM EST
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lol, chris
fwiw, the 2006 BA book mentions that some scouts have made comparisons between Chris Young and Eric Davis as well, mostly because of the excellent speed-power combo.
by levski on
Mar 12, 2006 5:54 PM EST
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just doing my part ...
by chris p on
Mar 12, 2006 10:54 PM EST
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greatest outfield that never was
by taggartd on
Mar 11, 2006 3:00 PM EST
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LA can only hope
:)
by levski on
Mar 11, 2006 3:04 PM EST
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He did all of this....
by rwperu34 on
Mar 11, 2006 3:25 PM EST
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eric
His second season was unbelievable. 37 home runs. 50 stolen bases. .992 OPS
Things I'll always remember about Eric Davis:
- He was one of the best base stealers of all time--never seemed to get caught
- He was the first guy I remember consistently going over the wall to steal a home run. And those were some high walls at Riverfront Stadium.
- The 1990 World Series. The big, bad A's versus the Little Red Machine. Intimidating Dave Stewart on the mound in game one, and Davis sets the tone for the butt-kick of a series by mashing a two-run shot over the CF wall in the very first inning. Then, in the last game of the four-game sweep, Davis tears his kidney or spleen or something making a diving catch.
by greg456 on
Mar 11, 2006 3:30 PM EST
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80 stolen bases
by nwroyal on
Mar 11, 2006 10:52 PM EST
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I might be wrong
by HuskerBob on
Mar 13, 2006 1:58 PM EST
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the diving catch in game 4
anyhow, sean lahman on eric davis...
by levski on
Mar 11, 2006 3:44 PM EST
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Davis was a special talent...
Davis was a LOT of fun to watch, whether it was batting or in the field - he did everything full out and without a doubt one of my favourite Reds...
by BigRedMachine on
Mar 13, 2006 11:59 AM EST
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Natsfan2005
From what i just read, that's an outstanding comp. And the numbers/similarities...
Do you find Davis as a good comp for Weeks?
by ohad on
Mar 11, 2006 4:22 PM EST
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weeks
by John Sickels on
Mar 11, 2006 4:26 PM EST
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League context
This brings up another potential topic. How much will the amphetamine ban reduce run production? Will that reduction bring about more use of the one run strategies (basestealing, hitting and running, sacrafice bunting)? Could we be on the verge of a new wave of basestealing prowess?
by rwperu34 on
Mar 11, 2006 11:16 PM EST
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what were his career numbers?
by forage on
Mar 11, 2006 4:52 PM EST
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Career Numbers
by DrBGiantsfan on
Mar 11, 2006 5:08 PM EST
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Top ranked player in 1987
by sabernar on
Mar 11, 2006 5:43 PM EST
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1987
John
Thanks for writing this piece on Eric Davis after I requested it.
by sdbaseballfan on
Mar 11, 2006 11:37 PM EST
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earl....
I never understood why he (err the computer) kept pinch hitting willie stagerll for babe ruth.
by goggles pisano on
Mar 12, 2006 3:58 PM EST
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Reds prospects
Wow. I remember when Reggie Sanders was a prospect with the Reds. People called him the next Eric Davis, which was of course unfair to the kid...but what do you know, they were right!
by DevilsAdvocate on
Mar 11, 2006 5:58 PM EST
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i get your point
by greg456 on
Mar 11, 2006 6:28 PM EST
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can't blame Sanders for that...
by DevilsAdvocate on
Mar 12, 2006 12:42 PM EST
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1991 Spring Training
by sdbaseballfan on
Mar 11, 2006 11:26 PM EST
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playoffs
I can't get the 1995 Reds-Braves series out of my head whenever I think about Reggie Sanders. He was totally inept.
And, of course, Sanders never approached Davis's status during the regular season either.
by greg456 on
Mar 12, 2006 12:07 AM EST
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but...
by Mean Dean on
Mar 12, 2006 1:37 AM EST
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Ayuh
by DevilsAdvocate on
Mar 12, 2006 1:32 PM EST
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Memories are made of moments, not statistics
And according to Retrosheet...except for that 1st inning home run that set the Reds on their way to their 1990 World Series sweep, Davis was not so hot a hitter in the playoffs. After his 1990 series-opening homer, he was 3-13 with 3 singles and no walks. For his career, which included the '90 LCS and shorter playoff appearances with Baltimore '97 and St. Louis '00, he hit just .192/.222/.301 in 73 at-bats, with 2 walks, 21 strikeouts, and 0-2 on the basepaths.
Sanders has had more opportunities to redeem himself since the 1995 LCS debacle (against Atlanta's pitching staff in their prime, he had 2 singles in 16 AB, 2 walks, 10 K). He actually did very well during Arizona's '01 playoff run. Though he has continued to strike out at an obscene rate in the postseason: total 191 AB, 69 K's.
by DevilsAdvocate on
Mar 12, 2006 1:28 PM EST
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you can't possibly...
by greg456 on
Mar 12, 2006 11:00 PM EST
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Accepted
However, that only leaves one season with playoff experience. For the Reds in 1990, Davis was .216/.237/.324 in 37 at-bats, with 9 K. Of course, he did play good defense too, including the play that put him in the hospital with a kidney laceration.
I just thought it was interesting how, despite the overall track record in the post-season, we all remember him for that single swing of the bat on the big stage, and because he was the nominal star slugger for a cinderella team that won it all.
by DevilsAdvocate on
Mar 13, 2006 9:44 AM EST
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Worst Hitch
That being said, I don't think without the injuries, Davis would have been a HOFer. Extremely talented no doubt, but his peak was going to be too short under any scenario.
by HuskerBob on
Mar 13, 2006 2:01 PM EST
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by calabrohuaca on
Dec 17, 2006 6:46 AM EST
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