Philadelphia Phillies Top 20 Prospects

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- Gavin Floyd, RHP, A-
- Ryan Howard, 1B, B+
- Cole Hamels, LHP, B
- Michael Bourn, OF, B
- Greg Golson, OF, B
- Jake Blalock, OF, B-
- Scott Mitchinson, RHP, C+
- J.A. Happ, LHP, C+
- Nate Cabrera, RHP, C+
- Scott Mathieson, RHP, C
- Carlos Carrasco, RHP, C
- Jason Jaramillo, C, C
- Eude Brito, LHP, C
- Francisco Butto, RHP, C
- Pedro Liriano, RHP, C
- Carlos Ruiz, C, C
- Zach Segovia, RHP, C
- Robinson Tejeda, RHP, C
- Sean Gamble, OF, C
- Chris Roberson, OF, C
I have Gavin Floyd at A-, and I like his medium and long-term prognosis, but I'm not sure he's ready to do well out the gate in the Show in '05. His K/BB and K/IP rates are not as good as you'd expect given his stuff, and I think he needs to make a few more adjustments.
Ryan Howard is blocked, of course. I think his power is real, but his batting average and OBP have a wide range of possible variation.
Yes, Phillies fans, I am aware that Cole Hamels has the most raw talent of anyone on this list. I have him at Grade B right now because of last year's elbow problems (which I find very worrisome), as well as the stupidity of the bar fight. If he is healthy and has his head screwed on straight this year, he'll move back up quickly. Remember that Grade B is not an insult in my system, but it does reflect the uncertainties in his profile.
I like Bourn a lot as a future leadoff guy. '04 draft pick Golson looks good early, although plate discipline will be an issue. Many of the Grade C pitchers (Brito and Butto in particular) have live arms but sketchy and inconsistent track records. I like Segovia a lot, but have him at Grade C now until we see how well he recovers from Tommy John surgery. Robinson Tejeda posted a decent ratio set in Double-A, but an 8-14 record and an ERA in excess of 5.00. He has some potential as a sleeper, in the sense that he underperformed his ratios last year. Either his ratios will get worse or his ERA will get better.
Keith Bucktrot and Kiel Fisher could be on the list as well depending on what you want to emphasize. Bucktrot has a great arm but horrible statistics. Fisher is a talented batsman who missed all of 2004 due to injury. He can hit but his defense needs a lot of work. If healthy he could move up quickly this year. Due to these uncertainties, both Bucktrot and Fisher are Grade C guys at this point.
Carlos Carrasco could be underrated at Grade C, and there is a chance he could emerge as a Grade B (or maybe even higher) this year. Keep an eye on him.
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Floyd
by count sutton on Mar 4, 2005 12:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You're gonna go far...
by okbluejays on Mar 4, 2005 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My 2 cents
Lakewood is a really, really lousy place to hit. Bourne, Blalock, Hansen, and the immortal Chico Cortez all hit way better on the road. Team as a whole hit 30 points higher and twice as many HRs on the road than at home. It's like that every year.
Carlos Ruiz is pretty interesting. Very little baseball experience for a 25/26 yr old and he's spent most of that time learning to catch (and pretty well by all accounts) and he took a big step forward with the bat in AA (and even the AFL) last season.
The GCL team had alot of very young very interesting arms, not just Carrasco.
Still have hope for Fisher despite missing the entire year, Heck, I still have hope for the continually injured Terry Jones.
If Hamels head and arm are attached he's an A, but it's understandable to be suspicious about both.
by StPhilly on Mar 4, 2005 12:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
More Bourne Love
Please let us see what a healthy Cole Hamels can do this year. If he gets his head screwed on right he can be awesome.
by eastin on Mar 4, 2005 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Ratings
To me, Gavin Floyd = Brett Myers, both from a analysis standpoint and stuff perspective. Coming through the minors, it appears that Myers had better control while Floyd was a little bit tougher to hit. Any reason this is a faulty comparison?
by KCH on Mar 4, 2005 5:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
myers/floyd
by John Sickels on Mar 4, 2005 5:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
re: myers/floyd
Can you comment on the cause of Bourn's K's? Is the ball getting blown by him up? Can he not lay off breaking stuff in the dirt? Does he struggle to recognize the change?
by KCH on Mar 4, 2005 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Bourn's Ks
by phatj on Mar 4, 2005 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with this assertion
is that until last year he never showed the power pereferials to make me believe that he doesn't struggle with some sort of pitch. Obviously he's going deep in counts as evidenced by his walk rate, but is he going deep in counts because he can't catch up to good stuff and tries to waits wild minor league pitcher's out, or because he's looking for his pitch to drive or hit? There's a big difference.
His K rates in college lead me to believe that he needs to get stronger to prevent the bat from getting nocked out of his hand, which is why the bump in power last year was a good sign. I also read in BA that the Phils believe he is strong enough to be more of a line drive hitter than a slappy.
by KCH on Mar 4, 2005 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
jaramillo
by erudite on Mar 4, 2005 7:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mitchinson
by tupelodylan on Mar 4, 2005 8:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
mitchinson
by John Sickels on Mar 4, 2005 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shaw & Marson
I'd love to hear your thoughts on Buck Shaw and Louis Marson. Both are 04 draftees, I'm liking what I've seen from both thus far. Shaw seems to have some nice power potential and I think Marson might be the long term solution at catcher. Your thoughts?
by BowmanChromeAddict on Mar 6, 2005 4:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and I'd still love to know
by BowmanChromeAddict on Mar 7, 2005 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
shaw and marson
by John Sickels on Mar 7, 2005 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?
by pmoney on Mar 7, 2005 11:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
marson's glove
by John Sickels on Mar 7, 2005 4:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Marson & Shaw
by BowmanChromeAddict on Mar 8, 2005 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hello,
by Isisaston on Dec 20, 2006 2:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs













