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Thoughts on the Arizona Fall League

How Meaningful is the Arizona Fall League?

I was thinking about ways to design a big study about this issue, but to be 100% honest I don't have the time to do it right now. I know you guys want me to spend my time working on the book. So we'll go with a random-thought format today.

The Arizona Fall League has become one of the highlights of the year for prospect watchers. This is the first year since 1997 that I won't attend, due to the impending birth of my second son. I hope to return in 2006.

The Fall League is designed to showcase prospects, give them a chance cap off the season, work on a few things in a competitive environment, and test themselves against other top prospects, sort of an hyper-advanced form of the instructional league. But how meaningful is performance in the AFL? Does a player who does well here have a better chance to succeed in the majors than one who doesn't?

Intuitively, you'd say "of course it matters." But the answer is not that simple. In recent years, teams have been increasingly reluctant to send top pitching prospects to the league, wanting to spare their arms excessive workload. Some still show up. . .particularly pitchers who missed time during the regular season for one reason or another, or guys who were drafted out of college and signed late. But if you have a league with a bunch of top hitting prospects clustered together, but without a proportional representation of top pitching prospects, results are bound to be skewed to some extent. You have to adjust for that.

With that in mind, let's look at some of the top performances in Arizona Fall League history.

Batting Average: .479, Ken Harvey in 2002
Hits: 68, Steve Pegues in 1992
Doubles: 19, Carlos Lee in 1998
Triples: 10, James Mouton in 1993
Homers: 12, Tagg Bozied in 2002
Walks: 37, Andy Fox in 1994
RBI: 44, Orlando Miller in 1993
Strikeouts: 83, Russ Branyan in 1997
Steals: 24, Rick Holifield in 1994
Slugging: .752, Ken Harvey in `02
OBP: .537, Ken Harvey in `02
ERA: 0.41, Elvin Nina in 2000
Saves: 17, Eric Ludwick in 1996
Strikeouts: 62, Alan Benes in 1995

You can find a complete list of everyone who ever played in the AFL here.

Now, all-time record lists don't tell us that much. A better way to do it would be to make a big list of, say, the top 10 or 20 OPS performances in the AFL each year, then see how those players did in the majors and look for correlations. But like I said, that would take more time than I have at this stage of the book crunch. But even just a brief glance at year-by-year leader lists show us that top performance in the AFL does not necessarily equate to having a good major league career. Steve Pegues? James Mouton?

Let's take a random season. . . the 1997 AFL.

Batting Average Qualifiers, 1997 Arizona Fall League

Brad Fullmer, .414
Sean Casey, .396
Ryan Jackson, .378
Damian Jackson, .374
Paul LoDuca, .363
Chris Sexton, .351
Charles Gipson, .346
Chad Hermansen, .341
J.P. Roberge, .336
Pat Watkins, .336
Kevin Barker, .331
Dan McKinley, .331
Adam Riggs. .317
Robert Smith, .316
Mark Kotsay, .313

The home run leader was Ron Wright at 11 (though he hit just .217), with Brian Buchanan, Corey Koskie, Geoff Jenkins, and Preston Wilson tied for second place with 10.

ERA leaders, 1997 Arizona Fall League

Rolando Arrojo, 1.38
Scott Schoeneweis, 1.98
Rafael Medina, 2.09
Jason Boyd, 2.16
Justin Speier, 2.28
Brian Sikorski, 2.41
Steve Montgomery, 2.54
Scott Sauerbeck, 2.68
Pete Munro, 2.79
John Rocker, 2.85
Mike Johnson, 3.07
Matt Perisho, 3.46

That's everyone who recorded an ERA less than 4.00 in the minimum of 35 innings.

In the 1997 AFL, the top performers were a mixture, some guys turning into fine players, but the majority of them not turning out to be much. John Rocker is an interesting case: it was in the AFL that he first put himself on the prospect map, showing a large and unexpected boost in his velocity.

My advice about the Arizona Fall League: treat it like a form of spring training. It's good if a guy does well there, but it is just one data point, and can't be taken too seriously. After the Ken Harvey Experience, I won't promote a guy to top prospect status just because of strong AFL performance.

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I think that you do need to consider the specifics of each player in evaluating the meaning of AFL stats.  

For instance, it does not take a genius to understand how a guy like Harvey's inflated stats might not mean much, since he is the perfect example of a AAAA All-star.  However, for other players, this can be a legitimate proving ground.  

I think that AFL stats are more meaningful for pitchers, as the league is dominated by hitters.  Most of the position players in the league are AA level or higher, so success against these hitters looks pretty good for a pitcher, especially one trying to get healthy.  

Also, it is a good proving ground for recently-drafted players, or players coming off a breakout season.  Brandon Wood is getting a lot of attention right now, and his insane AFL stats support the contention that he is 'for real' after a breakout season.  It will remain to be seen how he handles AA, but this looks good for him.  It is also useful to see how college hitters do after switching to wood bats and going against more advanced pro players.  Thus, performances by guys like Stephen Drew and Jeff Clement do help you get an understanding of what the future may hold for these guys.  I think that this is particularly important for recently drafted guys, as their performance in the AFL could have a big impact in where their respective organizations start them out in 2006.  

 

by Jerry @ Minor League Ball on Oct 19, 2005 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Wood
Brandon Wood went deep in 8 of his first 9 games.
Is it just Arizona Fall League at work here? I don't think so, not in this case. I want to cut and paste an article from Baseball America because I think it's infomative and worthwhile.
I hope everyone agrees....here it is.........

"Getting 100 extra-base hits in a minor league season is extremely rare. How rare? So rare that we couldn't find the last instance. Piatt had 91 in 1999 and Joe Dillon had 92 last year, but the lack of computerized minor league records before the mid-1980s makes this a difficult question to answer.

Fortunately, minor league researcher Bob Hoie (San Marino, Calif.) came to the rescue. Hoie, who helped launch SABR's invaluable three-volume "Minor League Stars" series, emailed BaseballAmerica.com general manager Kevin Goldstein with this information:

In your article on the top prospects in the California League, you mentioned with respect to Brandon Wood that the records were "murky" about the last player to reach the century mark. I think the last to do it was Len Tucker. He had 104 extra-base hits in 140 games with Pampa in the old Class B Southwestern League in 1956.

According to my records, the highest total was 126 (in 197 games) by Tony Lazzeri with Salt Lake City (Pacific Coast) in 1925. Thirty-one players have reached 100 extra-base hits a total of 38 times, exactly half of them in the long season PCL from 1923-35. The last of that group was Joe DiMaggio with 100 in 172 games.

Wood's average of .75 XBH/G (101 in 134) has been exceeded just five times: Gordon Nell, Pampa 1939 (.83, 112 in 135 games) and 1940 (.77, 103 in 133); Bob Crues, Amarillo 1948 (.79, 110 in 140); Moses Solomon, Hutchinson 1923 (.78, 104 in 134); and Cecil "Dynamite" Dunn, Alexandria 1936 (.76, 105 in 139).

I live about 35 miles from Rancho Cucamonga and saw Wood about a dozen times. He looks like the real deal. Of course, I thought Jesus Colome was one of the best prospects I ever had seen in the California League, but that was when we all thought he was 19 rather than 22.

Big leaguers have totaled 100 extra-base hits in a season just 15 times, though it has happened on six occasions since 1995. Babe Ruth holds the record with 119 in 1921. Lou Gehrig (117 in 1927, 100 in 1930), Chuck Klein (107 in 1930, 103 in 1932) and Todd Helton (105 in 2001, 103 in 2000) are the only players to accomplish the feat twice.

Every eligible player to reach triple digits is in the Hall of Fame: Ruth, Gehrig, Klein, Hank Greenberg (103 in 1937), Stan Musial (103 in 1948), Rogers Hornsby (102 in 1922) and Jimmie Foxx (100 in 1932). The others to pull it off in recent seasons are Barry Bonds (107 in 2001), Albert Belle (103 in 1995), Sammy Sosa (103 in 2001) and Luis Gonzalez (100 in 2001).

by Goodfella on Oct 19, 2005 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Komine
I think the AFL might help a guy like him.  He is coming off Tommy John and has always had doubters because of size.  He is pitching very well against the top players, and this might help show people that he can become a major league starter and not just a reliever or a AAAA starter.

He is showing nice stuff there and his stats are equally nice, so this league could very well increase his stock more than others.  He will never be considered elite, but a fringe major league pitcher proving to organizations that he can compete against the studs is probably more important or critical to a player's career than some other player moving up a prospect top 100 list after a good performance.

by LizardKing51 @ Minor League Ball on Oct 19, 2005 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

AFL Hitting stats
One thing I like to look at are the batters strikeouts when they face low minors pitchers like this.  If you strike out a lot against these guys, you're going to have problems, even the .350 hitters.

by elricsi on Oct 19, 2005 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Question for John
I don't know if he'll see this, but:

At point should I, as a Ranger fan, take what Wes Littleton(who a lot of people were high on after his 2003 pro debut) is doing as something big?

So far, 0.84 ERA, 10.2 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 15 K.

by Ian Miller on Oct 20, 2005 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

littleton
Now, that is very interesting! That K/IP really sticks out. Littleton has been something of a disappointment so far in his career. Perhaps he has figured something out?

Like I said, treat the AFL the same way you'd treat spring training stats.

by John Sickels on Oct 20, 2005 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

WHIP
The 0.47 WHIP is pretty impressive too, though it is still early.

I haven't heard anything about his velocity going up or anything, but I'd have to assume that something is different.

by Ian Miller on Oct 20, 2005 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something Different
Littleton's gone full-out submarine style, rather than simply being a sidearmer.
Go ahead and shoot your mouth off, like it might kill the silence.

by ESiegrist on Oct 21, 2005 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

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