Free Agent Bargains
Who do you think are going to be the biggest FA bargains of the 2006 off season? I have a few in mind but there are some questions marks that surround them.
My Opinions:
Kip Wells - Still only 29 and although has a history of injuries and under-acheivement if put in the right situation he could shine and will likely do so on a cheap incentive laden deal. Seems like the perfect fit for the Cardinals!!!
Shannon Stewart - I'm not sure on the status of his foot injury but he's a decent hitter when healthy (when being the key word). If he can stay healthy he could hit above .300 with a bit of pop (say 15 HRs) although his speed will be limited.
Mark Redman - I put him here not because there are questions that surround him but because he is in the 3rd tier of available pitchers behind (Zito/Schmidt in tier 1, Lilly/Meche etc tier 2) yet his 11 wins in KC would have easily been 15 wins on a decent team, he is solid and consistent, he could be a good bargain as a #4 starter for a team that misses out on the more sexy FAs.
Who else could be a good bargain???
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Randy Wolf
Other Guys
Mark Loretta: I still think he has some in the tank...even though last year as a dissapointment.
Craig Wilson: Give him an everyday starting job and he could hit 30 HR's.
Rod Barajas: Hit 47 home runs since joining Texas in 2004 and only Jorge Posada (62), Victor Martinez (59) and Jason Varitek (52) have more home runs as an AL catcher.
John Tompson: Posted a 1.59 ERA in his first six starts, and then endured the remainder of what became an injury-marred season.
Tony Graffanino/Ronnie Belliard : In my eyes, both are equal players to Mark DeRosa (but will come way, way, way, way cheaper than him).
David Dellucci: Give him 400 AB's and he'll give you 25+ HR's.
Dmitri Young: Solid, but headcase.
José Guillén: He'll sign a multi-million dollar contract somewhere(so not sure if he fits your definition of "bargin") but he's a Comeback Player of the Year candidate in my eyes.
I like
Dotel, too. High upside, but don't be putting your confidence that he'll be your closer or even your setup guy.
Stay away from: Dmitri Young. As a Tiger fan, I've seen enough. He's done. I hope he's at least getting his life back in order.
by mcq fesijiba on Nov 22, 2006 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Delluci....
Guy who can give you a high OBP and good power. Nice hitter.
by SenorGato88 on Nov 22, 2006 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Bargains
How many years and dollars will it take to sign Wolf? Is he in that 2nd tier?
Belliard will cost more than de Rosa. He might still be a relative bargain.
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Miguel Batista
Moises Alou
Alou
That tells you all you need to know about this year's free agent market.
tell me this...
Alou
Alou's 41 years old, or will be by the middle of next season. He's got bad hammies, bad knees, and bad calf muscles. Sure, it's possible he keeps up the roll he's been on the last 3 years and OPS's to the tune of .919 for the Mets (over his career averages, BTW). Or, it's possible he reverts back to the player he was with the Cubs, where he was hitting for less power and getting on base less frequently.
How do you explain his 2002 and 2003 lines? Did he find the fountain of youth the last 3 years? Can we reasonably expect him to keep up that level of production? Or, is it more likely that he'll revert back to his expected level of production, as a hitter on the downslope of his career? We'll know the answer next year, but I wouldn't have paid $8.5M (including the buyout) to find out.
Plus, in the clubhouse, no one's going to shake Alou's hand.
wait...
Moises
He's eventually going to fall off a cliff. Will it happen at age 41? It's possible. It's also possible he'll give the Mets a .900 OPS next year. But I wouldn't bet $8.5M on it.
Alou has been a fine hitter for many years. He is a good addition to the Mets, as they need a RHB bat and can afford to open up the pocketbooks. But the steal of the offseason? Sorry, I can't agree with that.
Guys!!!
by DrBGiantsfan on Nov 23, 2006 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
That's precisely my point
Stewart's done
El Fin
Also, he is also quite possibly the worst outfielder I have ever seen as far as positioning, routes and throwing arm go.
by mini tb on Nov 22, 2006 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Gil Meche
I know Mariners fans think he looked bad, but you have to realize that he was coming back from injury and still throwing hard with OK control and strikeout ability. Meche intrigues me more than any other FA pitcher.
Meche
If I heard my team's division rival was going to sign Meche for something like $24M/3, I'd be ecstatic.
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Pre All-Star break, he had 90 strikeouts in 110.1 innings and a 3.83 ERA. He wore down big-time in the next 76.1 innings, but that's totally understandable for a guy building up stamina after a terrible injury.
Meche has great stuff and great strikeout ability. He has two areas to improve: control and stamina. When I see a guy with plus stuff who was league-average starter last year despite having two areas that he could make major strides in, I see a potential free-agent bargain.
Sure
For example, take his first half this year. 90 Ks in 110.1 IPs, as you say. Not great, but not bad either. Works out to 7.3 Ks/9. Not what I'd call great strikeout ability. (In the second half, he struck out 66 in 76.1 IPs, which translates to a 7.78 K/9.) And that's about where Meche has been for most of his Seattle career. He's posted K/9 rates of 4.94, 6.30, 6.28, 6.98, 5.21, and 7.52 (in 2006). Now, looking at that charitably, I guess you could say that he's broken through in 2006, but a 7.5/9 K rate for a 28-year old in his sixth full season doesn't move me, even a guy who's missed as much time as Meche has (to an injury that as recently as a few years ago was considered the death knell of pitcher injuries).
But the mediocre K rates are only half the story for Meche, and the better half, as it were. Meche has a command problem. He's never been able to throw quality strikes (even in the first half of 2006, his K/BB rate was 2/1). That also makes him very hittable--101 Hs in those 110.1 IPs pre-ASB IPs in 2006, and he's had similar numbers in other years too.
Put it all together, and what do you have? A league average pitcher who doesn't strike out a ton of people and walks too many. When he's not walking them, he's throwing them nice fat strikes that are geting poked all over and out of the park, even in Safeco. And he's not even a lefty.
He's definitely not a #2/#3 in my book, he's a #4 or more likely a #5. Now, is it possible that Meche will breakout out for someone next year? Sure, it's possible. If he gets his command issues worked out at age 29 and keeps the K rate at or over 7.5/9, he could be decent. At most, I'd sign him to some sort of a Wade Miller style deal and hope for the best. But at $8M/year for 3 years? I just don't see it.
You are severely underrating Meche
First of all, I just want to say that 7.52K/9IP is not mediocre, it is in fact pretty damn good. It puts him 22nd among all starting pitchers qualified. It puts him ahead of those you tend to consider big time power pitchers like Chris Carpenter, Kelvim Escobar, and Roy Oswalt, to name a few. On the downside, Meche does have control problems, but his stuff is good enough to limit his hits allowed to just a tad under a hit an inning, which is also a very positive sign for a pitcher.
He is 28, still young enough to stabilize his mechanics and gain command of his pitches. He ceiling is a good number two, and barring injuries, he is no worse then a solid #4. Which means, he would likely range from average to above-average in the next couple years. You can't discount the importance of a league average pitcher, these players are extremely valuable. League average players are not exactly easy to find. Trust me, you will miss him next year once he is gone.
by slitheringslider on Nov 23, 2006 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Meche
But you raise a good point: for me, there's no place on my team for guys like Meche or Lilly. And it's probably partially the frustration of watching their ups and downs.
I seem to remember some work being done on this, maybe over at HBT. Guys who average out well over the long haul, but only keep you in a small portion of your games (when they're good they're very good, but when they're bad they're awful). IIRC, the conclusion was traditional metrics over-value these guys (though it could be a sign of a potential breakout).
Stamina
Either he will have to be babied like Pedro or you could use him as a dominant setup man.
Danny Baez
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Kenny Lofton has to be. A journeyman now, but even with hopping city-to-city he puts up good numbers every year still
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by mcq fesijiba on Nov 22, 2006 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
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I would take Roberts any day of the week. He is a good leader, does very well in the postseason, and is one of the few speedsters that know how to work a pitcher. Get Nook Logan off the waiver wire to back him up (since Nook murders lefties) and you are ready to rock.
One name forgotten...
Great defensive OFer, good power, good average, good OBP, but a crappy injury history gets him ridiculed hardcore.
He will get half the money and half the years of Soriano but he's the far better overall player and hitter.
Technically, that makes him a bargain in this digusting offseason.
Speculation on Drew's contract
by Azteca on Nov 22, 2006 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Whuaaaaaaaaa?
Why?
And theres more than money, Drew will get less years than Pierre, Soriano, and Matthews. That also makes him less of a burden than the others in the future.

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