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Joel Guzman (Tim Evearitt photo, from Chattanoogan.com)

Los Angeles Dodgers Top 20 Prospect Retrospective

1) Joel Guzman, SS.
   Hitting .273/.349/.488. Has been somewhat erratic, but holding his own. Good walk rate with 32 BB in 260 AB, but strikeout rate is quite high, with 83 whiffs per 70 games. I'm still high on him but he will need more time.              
2) Chad Billingsley, RHP.
   5-4, 4.73 ERA, with 83/26 K/BB in 72 innings, 69 hits allowed. K/BB, K/IP, and H/IP all support a lower ERA than 4.73, so like Guzman I am still high on him despite superficially mediocre results.        
3) Jonathan Broxton, RHP.
   4-3, 3.23 with 79/26 K/BB in 78 innings, 64 hits allowed. Pitching quite well. His component ratios are similar to Billingsley despite an ERA more than a run lower. No change in status, a fine prospect.
4) Edwin Jackson, RHP.
   Completely fell apart at Triple-A Las Vegas: 3-7, 8.62 in 11 starts with horrible 33/37 K/BB ratio. Demoted to Jacksonville and has done OK so far. I'm very, very worried about him. If it was just control problems that would be one thing, but the sharp decline in his K/IP is of serious concern.          
5) James Loney, 1B.
   .267/.359/.391 in 74 games in Double-A. Where is the power? Still controlling the strike zone well, and he is still just 21, but at some point he has to hit better than this. Would be a good topic for a Prospect Alternate History. Remind me to do that.              
6) Chuck Tiffany, LHP.
   5-4, 3.42 with 70/22 K/BB in 55 innings for Vero Beach. No change in status.
7) Yhency Brazoban, RHP
   4.35 ERA in 33 games out of the Major League pen, has saved 13 in 16 attempts.
8) Delwyn Young, 2B.
   .293/.344/.457 in 71 games for Double-A Jacksonville. No change in status, has adjusted well to Double-A pitching.
9) Dioner Navarro, C.
   .283/.385/.429 in 56 games at Triple-A Las Vegas. Best mark is 30/18/184 BB/K/AB ratio, showing excellent plate discipline. Power is disappointing however.
10) Russ Martin, C.
    .313/.441/.422 in 72 games for Jacksonville. Less power than ideal (5 homers), but excellent strike zone judgment and a low strikeout rate point to a good future. Stock improving.              
11) Blake DeWitt, 3B.
    .265/.309/.416 in 72 games for Columbus in the Sally League. Not as polished as anticipated, is holding his own considering he is one year out of high school, but will need to improve. Walk rate is too low, although strikeouts are not out of bounds.
12) Cory Dunlap, 1B.
    .271/.369/.369 for Vero Beach. Making contact, controlling the strike zone, but no power. Similar problems to James Loney.
13) Willy Aybar, 2B.
    .295/.355/.430 at Triple-A Las Vegas. Numbers look good on surface but aren't that impressive for Vegas context. Just 3 homers. Best attribute is strong 24/35/237 BB/K/AB mark.
14) Andy LaRoche, 3B.
    .333/.380/.651 with 21 homers in 63 games at Vero Beach. Promoted to Double-A, where he is .278/.366/.722 after 9 games. Outstanding power production this year. Plate discipline remains a potential weakness, but it has not hurt him much. Moving up the charts quickly.            
15) Chin-Lung Hu, SS.
    .275/.321/.394 in 66 games for Vero Beach, has stolen 8 bases. Doing OK, not awful, not great, will need to improve on-base abilities for success at higher levels.
16) Scott Elbert, LHP.
    3-4, 3.42 in 12 starts for Columbus, with 58/29 K/BB in 55 innings, 39 hits. K/IP and H/IP are very strong, but K/BB is weaker due to high walk rate. A decent start for Missouri high school kid, but will need better command.      
17) Justin Orenduff, RHP.
    5-3, 2.24 in 12 starts for Vero Beach, with 81/26 K/BB in 60 innings, just 35 hits allowed. Excellent K/IP and H/IP shows great stuff. Command an issue, he walked 3 in 3 innings in his first Double-A outing, allowing 7 runs.
18) Julio Pimentel, RHP.
    5-3, 4.02 in 12 starts for Vero Beach, 61/29 K/BB in 65 innings, 66 hits. Numbers mediocre, not a spectacular season.
19) Matt Kemp, OF.            
    .247/.286/.516 at Vero Beach. Excellent power, but plate discipline a serious question: 11 walks, 58 strikeouts in 190 at-bats. Will struggle if promoted to Double-A.
20) D.J. Houlton, RHP.
    5.72 ERA in 17 games in the Majors for Rule 5 pick. Has had a bit of success here and there, but overall has been too hittable, allowing 51 hits in 39 innings. Scouts say he is a Quadruple-A pitcher. Like many such, he could do good work if given enough adjustment time, but that's a big if considering the early results.

In the comments, mention any other players in the Dodgers system you want me to comment about and I'll answer.

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What about Hong-Chih Kuo?
Do you see him making an appearance for LA this year?  The guy is absolutely dominating and struck out 6 in 2 innings yesterday for Jacksonvill (AA), hitting 98-99 mph several times.

Also, how has Broxton looked now that he has gone to the pen?  I hear he has increased his velocity too.

by dodgrman on Jun 27, 2005 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

kuo
Great numbers including 42 strikeouts in 26 innings for Vero Beach. Depending on how he does at Double-A, he looks like a Grade B+ guy. Certainly belongs on a Dodgers top 20 list and probably in the top 10.

I haven't heard anything specific about Broxton in the pen, but he has the stuff to succeed anywhere if he throws strikes.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cody Ross?
He was pretty heralded in Detroit and played fairly well last year...AAAA outfielder?  What about Joel Hanrahan?

by silvysilv on Jun 27, 2005 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

ross
Yeah, Ross is an AAAA guy it looks like. His vegas numbers aren't that impressive.

Hanrahan is a mystery. Like Edwin Jackson, he hasn't handled his chances at Las Vegas very well. May need a change of scenery.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

White Sox Prospect Update
Hey John,

I was hoping to get your attention. Can you do an update on the White Sox farm system? With the trade deadline looming, I wanted to know what bargaining pieces we have and what have become our "untouchables," in your opinion.

by doofusme on Jun 27, 2005 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Greg Miller?
Likelihood that he lives up to his talent despite his injury?

by FunWithHeadlines on Jun 27, 2005 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

miller
Just a guess but I doubt he will make it in the long run, at least not as an ace starter like the Dodgers were hoping. Perhaps he could thrive in relief?

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jacksonville
I saw Jacksonville play last week and I share some of your sentiments.  Guzman has obvious potential but his poor plate discipline limits him a bit.  He has great range at short.

Loney's power numbers... well, he hit two balls in the same game that missed being home runs by inches (in fact, one of them was originally called a home run but the umpires huddled and ruled it a foul ball.)  He just turned 21 a month ago, too.

Broxton blows it by hitters at 98 mph... he's coming out of the bullpen now though, I guess because that's where the Dodgers see him in the future and maybe because Jackson was sent down.

by Tcs5384 on Jun 27, 2005 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

broxton
Thanks for your observations. Very valuable.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRoche
I'm wondering exactly how far LaRoche has moved up with his start. Walk rate (which is not great, but not just horrible) is the weakness, but he's hitting for huge power and making contact much better than last season.

by Brett Perryman on Jun 27, 2005 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

laroche
Well, he'd be in the top 10 now. Beyond that I don't know...want to see more.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joel Guzman
What kind of numbers do you project Joel Guzman to put up when he gets to the majors?

Are you going to be doing a Cardinals Top 20 review soon?

by fpslackers on Jun 27, 2005 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

guzman
If Guzman can gain adequate command of the strike zone, he could put up Miguel Cabrera numbers.

Cards, sure.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

raglani
does he prefer john or andy?  is he a legit prospect?
"A hot dog at the ball park is better than steak at the Ritz." ~Humphrey Bogart

by mrmetaa on Jun 27, 2005 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

rags
Don't know. Yes he is a prospect.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

hochevar
when he signs, does he automatically go in the top 5?

by npurcell on Jun 27, 2005 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

luke
Top 10 until we get some data.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

midway through the season
what would your top 10 be now instead of the one you made at the beginning of the season.

do you see laroche as having david wright upside?

by npurcell on Jun 27, 2005 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

top 10
Don't know. Would have to think about it some more.

Laroche...I don't think he will be as complete a player as Wright, but he should be good.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hanrahan
Is he basically a career minor leaguer at this point, or does he have a shot to make it to the show.  He is a bit old for AA.

Also, considering the weak crop of OF in the system do you think that any of the big names will be shifted to the OF soon?

by stuckinduke on Jun 27, 2005 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

i would like guzman to stay at SS
all reports say his range and hands are all average to above average. and his arm strength is above average as well. the knock is that he is consisntent with his throws sometime. But there is no reason IMO he cant play SS in the pros. I mean, if derek jeter can, guzman can right?

also, his bat as a SS would be amazing.

by npurcell on Jun 27, 2005 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guzman
the fact that he is 6'6" and looks very awkward at short are probably responsible for scouts thinking he will have to move to a corner infield or outfield spot.

by riktermiller on Jun 29, 2005 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

han
Well, it's too early to give up on him but I have to admit I am concerned. He's made no progress in two years.

OF....Guzman is the obvious candidate but he has more value if he can stay at SS or 3B.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever happened to Chin-Feng Chen?
Guess he's not a prospect anymore at 27, but why the heck did they never give him a shot?  He's hit well (not great, but well) at AAA, and the organization in the last couple of years has been willing to try a non-proven guy.
and boom goes the dynamite.

by dcarrano on Jun 27, 2005 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

chen
They seem him as an organization player now, not a prospect. He's done OK in Triple-A but Vegas inflates his stats.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

predict 2008 lineup
this is a fun one for you john.

predict the 2008 LA dodgers starting lineup with prospects and current major league players.

players that are signed through 2008 that have to be on the team:
derek lowe
brad penny
JD drew

by npurcell on Jun 27, 2005 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this just for John or do we all get to play?
Heck, I'll even throw out the lineup, in order, and pseudo-realistic free agents....
  1.  Antonio Perez (2b)
  2.  Cesar Izturis (SS)
  3.  JD Drew (RF)
  4.  Adam Dunn (1B)
  5.  Milton Bradley (CF)
  6.  Joel Guzman (LF)
  7.  Andy Laroche (3B)
  8.  Dionner Navarro/Russ Martin (C)
Pitching
  1. Derek Lowe
  2. Odalis Perez
  3. Chad Billingsley
  4. Luke Hochevar
  5. Gregg Miller/Chuck Tiffany
LR. DJ Houlton
LR. ?
MR. ?
MR. ?
SU. Jonathan Broxton
C. Yhency Brazoban

by silvysilv on Jun 28, 2005 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

'08
I hate future lineup questions....:)....they are impossible to answer really. I mean, that's 3 years from now and it's likely that at least some of the slots will be filled by guys who are not in the Dodgers system right now, and perhaps not even in professional baseball.

The pitching staff you can do something with though....I'd say the rotation would be something like

Lowe, Penny, Billingsley, Hochevar, Tiffany. With Broxton as closer. Edwin Jackson will be closing for the Washington Nationals by 2008.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jackson closing
Interesting.  Why do you think that would straighten him out?
and boom goes the dynamite.

by dcarrano on Jun 28, 2005 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

jackson
Dunno. He certainly has the stuff, and one thing I've heard is that he is outthinking himself right now, worrying too much between starts. Perhaps switching to relief will help. It has helped lesser talents.

by John Sickels on Jun 28, 2005 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

comments
I'll get all these questions answered by tomorrow morning at the latest.

by John Sickels on Jun 27, 2005 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Too late?
If you're still answering questions, is there any reason to get excited about any of the following who are performing well this year?

Todd Donovan (OF, Jax)
Tydus Meadows (OF, Jax)
Carlos Alvarez (RP, Jax)
Mark Alexander (RP, Vero)
Justin Ruggiano (OF, Vero)
Blake Johnson (SP, Columbus)
Travis Denker (2B, Col)

Also, what's up with Xavier Paul?  Wasn't he supposed to be a top prospect?

by overkill94 on Jun 28, 2005 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Paul
What is the latest on Xavier Paul??

by fireant on Jun 28, 2005 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't give you any insight
but to quote his numbers, he stinks:

143 AB, .224/.296/.329 with 2 homers and a 14:40 BB/K at high-A Vero Beach.

by overkill94 on Jun 29, 2005 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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