Future Franchise Players
by prince of power on Feb 4, 2012 2:16 PM EST
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Which of the following "Future Franchise Players" would you rather have on your franchise, taking into account both upside and risk?
Xander Bogaerts 3B/OF- Huge power potential, decent average, likely to move from SS to 3B or corner OF Comp: Adrian Beltre?
Franciso Lindor SS- Pure fielding SS who will stick there, switch hitter with good bat, nice speed but not too much power, Comp: Jose Reyes with less speed?
Josh Bell OF- Switch hitting corner OF with plus power potential. Probably a ways away from the majors. Comp: Matt Kemp?
Christian Yelich- Left-handed hitting corner outfielder. 1st Base still a possibility. Pure hitting skills. Should hit well over .300 but has limited power potential. Comp: Joey Votto with less power?
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"Should hit well over .300"
I always laugh when somebody says something like this about a player that hasn’t played above Low A.
I think it's funny
when people say a player will hit well over .300 regardless of what level they’re playing at. It is unbelievably hard and rare for a guy to hit well over .300! As of today, there are only 9/243 qualified guys (3.7%) in the majors with career batting averages over .310 (Pujols, Ichiro, Mauer, Helton, Miggy, Holliday Jeter, Votto, and Braun). Going back to 1900, only 102/3306 qualified hitters have career averages of at least .310 (3.1%). There have been some really, really great hitters who didn’t hit “well over .300” so I don’t see how it’s ever anything more than the absolute ceiling for a player. Saying that a guy “should” do it is kinda like saying he “should” end up in the Hall of Fame which is a lofty expectation for any prospect.
by KentuckyPirate on Feb 4, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Bogaerts, Bell, Lindor, Yelich
Not a big fan of Lindor. The only thing that has be putting him above Yelich is positional value in real life. For fantasy purposes he would definitely be the last one for me.
Lindor
From what I’ve heard, the Reyes comp doesn’t sound very accurate.
Maybe Stephen Drew as an upside?
I like Barry Larkin more
Drew is better than Reyes as a comp though.
Yelich.
Then Bell, Boegarts, Lindor.
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by Stupendous Man on Feb 5, 2012 12:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Lindor
I love his extreme youth and the fact that he plays SS.
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Yelich Then
Josh Bell then Lindor then Boegarts
Bogaerts and Bell an incredibly tough call
I’ll lean Bogaerts though because of the positional value and the fact that he has already had a successful pro season. After that I would go with Lindor then Yelich, though I’m not huge on either. I see them as above-average regulars, maybe a couple all-star seasons, but not stars like I think the other two will be.
Lindor's bat
is not good enough to call him a franchise player, though if he can be a slightly-above-average MLB shortstop offensively, his glove will likely be good enough to make him a star.
Lindor
I think some people need to go back and read some scouting reports. Lindor is far and away the best prospect of this list. He has a great glove and footwork at SS and should have no problems whatsoever sticking at the position. His bat is surprisingly quite polished with good pop for a kid his size. I would not be surprised at all if Lindor replicates in 2012 what Profar did in low A this past year. They are similar prospects with similar skills and polish at a young age.
Lindor is not far and away the best
on this list. He doesn’t have nearly the upside Bogaerts does
In your opinion
Let’s let the kid, you know, get past 20 plate appearances before being so definitive.
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