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Drew Hutchinson

 

I just love this kid.

I know he gotten some good attention, but I think he has a shot to be a good no.2 starter.

Something I look for in pitching prospects other than above avg stuff is their k/bb ratio.

For the year Hutchinson has pitched 149.1ip, and has racked up 171k and 35bb. for a ratio of 4.89 k/bb (extremley good) over three levels. what is interesting is that as he got promoted he for the most part improved his k/bb ratio while still maintaining an elite k/9ip ratio.

here's Hutchinson's k/9ip / bb/9ip / k:bb

A-:   10.5k/9ip, 2.375bb/9ip, 4.42k:bb   (72ip)

A+: 9.53k/9ip, 2.02bb/9ip, 4.71k:bb  (62.1ip)

AA: 12.6k/9ip, 1.2bb/9ip, 10.5k:bb (15ip)

granted he'sonly made 3 starts in AA, but the small sample size looks encouraging.

I've heard his fb sits in the low 90s and can touch 95 and rates as above avg/plus(bc of his command). while his slider and changeup are both avg with the chance to be better.

 

 



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I saw his Milb debut last year

I liked him quite a bit but I never expected him to be this good. His fastball was only 88-90 in the game via stalker guns from players I asked. His changeup was great and his slider was solid.

by Bravesin07 on Sep 5, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

When I saw him he had virtually no confidence in his CU.

though it looked promising in warmups. Id still say it projects as a pretty average pitch at best though. Couple inches of tumble, but not a whole lot of movement. He worked on the CU almost exclusively when warming up for the 3rd, but still didn’t really show it a whole lot after that. I liked his breaking ball best.

by alskor on Sep 5, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cole/Hutchinson/Jenkins

Need to keep two…

I love cole so its basically Hutch or Jenkins…

What do you guys think.

by dj07551 on Sep 5, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

i’m guessing it’s tyrell jenkins…well he’s the best of the Jenkins’ pitchers.
i’d take Hutch, b/c he’s closer to the big leagues. though Jenkins has a no.1 ceiling

by bk11 on Sep 5, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trade Cole

he’s gonna take 4 years in the minors then be a closer. Waste.

by METSMETSMETS on Sep 10, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hutchison

If you love him so much, do him the courtesy and spell his name right.

by slurve on Sep 5, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Side question

Is it possible he’d get three rings if Lansing/Dunedin/New Hampshire all win their playoffs?

by TtD on Sep 5, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think he has a number 2 ceiling.

Stuff, command and velo just werent that impressive when I saw him (AA debut for NH a week back, article & video forthcoming). Probably not a top 100 prospect for me off the top of my head, but the minors are shallow and he could sneak in the last 25 when I make the list. I would say overhyped, though. I was not particularly impressed by Hutchinson.

by alskor on Sep 5, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he got by on deception a lot...

FB doesn’t really have a whole lot of life and its 88-92. Meh. He’s a good prospect, but he’s more of a good pitchability guy with a 3 pitch mix of ok stuff and average-ish velo. I do think a good portion of his success is coming from his slightly funky mechanics. He steps almost toward 3B, not towards home. So he stays closed late and throws across his body some. Despite the so-so velo, the ball sneaks up on people because you can’t pick it up until late. He kinds of cuts off his delivery a little though – because of where he plants – and that hurts his command. Though on the upside, he still manages to keep everything down – guys with these kind of mechanics often end up leaving the ball up. Hutchison did lapse into that occasionally, but overall still showed good control of his FB and kept it down in the zone even if he wasn’t spotting it where he wanted/to both sides. To be fair, I had heard his FB command was supposed to be better but he was not really showing me that at all this game outside of a couple stretches. I hope to get another look at him in the spring or at NH next season, but all I can go on is what I saw.

Overall, I just have serious reservations about ranking a guy with this kind of velo and stuff in my top 100. He’s a good pitching prospect who has been getting very good results, but he’s also got an adult body and I’m not sure there’s any projection left here. He can definitely refine his pitches more and he will need to in order to continue having success in the high minors. I mean… he probably will end up sneaking into the back end of my top 100, but this is the kind of guy that I’m not sure whether I’ll want to take him or some high ceiling live arm until I actually do the list.

I’ll link here (or a fanshot) when I write the article (and I’ll show animated gifs of his pitches slowed down), but I’m doing Brad Peacock and Mason Williams pieces first, so it will be a couple weeks. I also may do Travis D’Arnaud first, actually. He looked fantastic. Moved like a cat behind the plate and good swing. I had D’Arnaud 34th on my midseason list and that feels far too low now. He’s more of a top 20/25 talent, IMO. Got some great footage of him working on his receiving with Sal Fasano (who is NH’s manager) before the game. Can’t wait to get to that video. In fact, I liked his receiving, moving and blocking so well that if you asked me what minor league catcher I would most like to throw to (if I were a pitcher) I’d probably answer d’Arnaud. With the caveat I haven’t seen Austin Hedges, though the film I’ve seen is super impressive.

by alskor on Sep 5, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I think he got by on deception a lot..."

A quick aside, but would you also classify Nestor Molina in this way, or does he have better pure stuff?

by dbreer23 on Sep 5, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Molina's

FB seems just solid at 89-92 and he’s not a huge guy, so I could see him being more of a middle to back of rotation guy. From what little I’ve seen (15 minutes of video so YMMV) I’m not sure where the relief thing is coming from. There’s some effort in the delivery, and he has a bit of a hop on his landing, but he repeats his delivery well and it’s a really fast arm with a consistent slot. If anything pushed him to relief it would be need on the Jays’ part. Anyone expecting an ace will almost surely be disappointed.

by blackoutyears on Sep 5, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

BA's take on Hutch earlier in the year.

HELIUM WATCH

• Drew Hutchison, rhp, Blue Jays: When the Blue Jays whiffed on signing picks in the top three rounds in 2009, they did land a consolation prize, as that freed up the $400,000 to sign righthander Drew Hutchison, a 15th-round pick out of a Lakeland, Fla., high school. When you draft a somewhat skinny high school righthander, scouts hope he’ll add velocity as he fills out, and that’s exactly what’s happened with the 20-year-old. When Hutchison signed, he featured an 88-92 mph to go with an erratic, but promising low-80s slider and a useful changeup. Now he’s sitting at 92-95 mph, and his slider has become a potentially devastating 86-88 mph rapier.

by another know it all on Sep 5, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like a top 50 to me and his results have been fantastic and hard to argue with

by Sniderlover on Sep 5, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just read an interview with Hutch's AA manager

Per Sal Fasano, when asked to compare Molina and Hutch
“Hutchison has more deception, he has an awkward delivery, not for him for the hitter, he throws across his body and makes a 91-92 fastball feel like 93-94”

Very similar to your.observations, alskor.

http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php?story=20110902143127758

by JayTeam on Sep 6, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps similar deception to what Jered Weaver has. Weaver’s stuff plays up significantly because of how well he hides the ball and how awkward his delivery is for the hitter.

by limozeen on Sep 6, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm more interested in

how he commands his fastball and what, if any, movement it has. I’d rather have a guy sit 91-92 with good sink than a flat 94-95. You said he sat 88-92 without a whole lot of life… that doesn’t sound promising. I’m wondering if he has worn down and lost a few ticks late in the season. Jumped from 68 innings in 2010 to over 140 this year…

by another know it all on Sep 6, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drew Hutchison

has easily broken into my top 100 and likely top 50 overall prospects, on my list i’ve been constructing and tinkering wtih he’s currently in the 30’s range. (so that’d put him in the top 20 pitching prospects in all of baseball)

He’s good very good, Daniel Hudson does things people only dream of with average to decent stuff. Hutchison may do more than he does with even less stuff.

Liriano, Mijares, Angel Morales, & Anthony Swarzak for Josh Johnson and Brad Hand

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 5, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree

he’s top 50 for me too. i’ve also read that he touches 95 (infrequently) and has good sink.

by Alfamale on Sep 5, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

To say the least

Hudson sits 92-95 with the FB touching 96/97 every time I’ve seen him, plus movement on the pitch and a plus change. He has much better than average stuff.

by blackoutyears on Sep 5, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson

When he was in the minors, if I recall directly, his scouting report looked like this
Above avg fb in low 90s, but with deception
Plus change up
Below avg/fringe avg slider
With pitching mechanics that made some wonder if he’d end in the pen.

by bk11 on Sep 5, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

Liriano, Mijares, Angel Morales, & Anthony Swarzak for Josh Johnson and Brad Hand

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 7, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There seems

to have been a serious disconnect. Pitchers rarely add several mph to their FB immediately upon reaching the majors. I suspect the reports on the FB were light. And if it is the case that he suddenly went from low-90s to mid-90s, I wouldn’t count on Hutchison replicating that feat.

by blackoutyears on Sep 8, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson

http://futuresox.com/frontpage/2009/07/13/dan-hudson/

But shs compared to the present day Hudson, not the college version who wasn’t that good.

by pedrophile on Sep 9, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

To have the change as only average is off. It’s an excellent pitch, and it’s hard to believe it went from avg to plus over night. His velo has also increased a tick from this report. The tick from High-80s to low-90s is impressive enough, but two ticks is pretty rare, and another reason not to expect Hutchison to follow in his footsteps.

by blackoutyears on Sep 9, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if that report caught him when his stuff was off a little?

Conditioning at that level isn’t as good and scouting isn’t as frequent. IMO it’s more likely for them to catch him on an of night than for him to increase two ticks.

by pedrophile on Sep 10, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

that it makes more sense that the reading on the velo and change was off.

by blackoutyears on Sep 14, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

BA’s scouting report on Hudson from the 08 draft reads something along the lines that his fb is in the low 90s, though with inconsistent command. also throws changeup, curveball and slider. curveball being the best. so hudson’s fb did not jump from high 80s to low/mid 90s. at most it went from low 90s to low/mid 90s.

by bk11 on Sep 10, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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