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Eric Arce

2 for 4, homer (11), rbi (31), 2 bb, k

has been crushing GCL pitching.

by Alfamale on Aug 6, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Dalton Pompey

3 for 6, double (6), triple (1), rbi (12)

by Alfamale on Aug 6, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Andrew Burns

2 for 4, first pro homer.

by Alfamale on Aug 6, 2011 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

what league is he in?

I like him a bit, and you know he will devlop into something useful in the Braves system

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 6, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yordano

4 ip, 2 h, 0 r, 0 bb, 5 k

on pitch count of 50.

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by doublestix on Aug 6, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

where does he rank in Royal's system?

behind only Starling, Cuthbert, Myers, Montgomery and Arguelles? surpsases Dwyer, Lamb for me….Gio, Mouse graduates

Also Derreck, where does Sierra JR rank in you’re eyes? thanks

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 6, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he hasn't surpassed those two for me

he’s also probably behind Sal Perez, Odorizzi, and maybe Jason Adam. so, i think the 9-12 range. he’s certainly made strides this year though.

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by doublestix on Aug 6, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohh yeah definately behind Odorizzi, and probably Adam.

ok, thanks, I guess I’m a little too high on the youngster In regards to Lamb I am only cautisiously awaiting his return from tough injury. So for now i down grade him a bit

But eventually Lamb should return to being a top arm in the system. Dwyer though on the other hand has fallen a bit for me.

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 7, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Dwyer has definitely fallen a little. but with all the graduations he still right there at 8-12.

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by doublestix on Aug 7, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

already.....hammer'n Joe Benson

2-2 , HR

more AB’s pending…

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 6, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

finished 3-4, HR

other two hits were singles 0 SB, 0 BB, 0 K’s
which is rare, he normally does one of those things…

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 7, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nathan Eovaldi

10 pitches thru one inning. Weak groundout, and struck out Justin Upton and Kelly Johnson on beautifully placed 96 mph fastballs.

by tywebster on Aug 6, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I had no idea he was recalled

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes throwing gas

Is it a permante move or a spot start?

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully permanent to replace RDLR

but that hasn’t been determined yet, of course.

by High and Inside on Aug 6, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

just gave up a 2 run single to Joe Saunders ahaha

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thru 5 Innings

4 hits allowed, 7 K’s, 2 BB’s, 2 ER

Solid ML debut thus far.

by tywebster on Aug 6, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starling

Marte with a HR after one last night.

1-3 so far.

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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 6, 2011 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

More

Pirates.. Well one

Pirates.. Well oneZach Von Rosenberg, 5IP, 3H, ER, BB, 6K

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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 6, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Np

dude. Loving me some Starling. Hoping he can keep up this streak the rest of the year, with the added power, and draw a few walks.. really turn some heads.

Amazing thing is he broke his hamate bone about 15 months ago, so his power is probably just returning.

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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 6, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to say it to jinx him but ZVR has been pitching well lately.

by Dorn on Aug 6, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can’t believe he’s only 18, and will be for the rest of the season.

for christ sakes this kid could make the majors this year.

by Alfamale on Aug 6, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harper...

For being the most hyped prospect to come along in a very long while, Harper is rarely mentioned in the every day threads. At least not nearly as much as I thought he would be going into the season.

by loop on Aug 7, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

ive thought the same thing...

i go through these threads most nights and most nights i still have to look his box score up

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Aug 7, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm okay with that...

Just let the kid play, and when he does something spectacular, give him some credit…but I don’t need to know how he does every night…

by dbreer23 on Aug 7, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

why not

seeing the ups and downs and daily results of players is how you really learn about their tendencies/skill. just noting their highlights isn’t all that useful

by daveh33 on Aug 7, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point was...

I don’t necessarily need to see it HERE…if others do, that’s fine with me, but I can use other sources for daily/weekly/monthly stats…

by dbreer23 on Aug 8, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

My take...

was that everybody knows his abilities, so nobody really posts updates on him. We all just expect him to hit .300+ with power and blow through the minors. I think his struggles transitioning into AA were more interesting to follow than him figuring it out and now producing.

by High and Inside on Aug 7, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe because he doesn't "need" the hype?

I think everyone here agrees he’s damn good.

by guru4u on Aug 8, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

for christ sakes this kid could make the majors this year.

and strike out in 50% of his at bats. the kid is good, no question. but he needs work on his hit tool. the sheer tools are there, but he needs some time to put them together. he’ll be up next year, most likely, and hitting his stride when he’s 20.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Aug 7, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He needs to work on his hit tool?

He’s got a 17.1% K rate in AA as an 18 year old

by nixa37 on Aug 8, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bryce Harper & his 'hit tool'

Am with you – this train of thought inexplicably refuses to die for some reason.

by Matt0330 on Aug 9, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it's weird

Bryce Harper is an aggressive hitter, but somewhere along the way that got mixed up with notions of him being a “bad” hitter.

He’s going to strike out his fair share, especially when he first gets up to the highest level, but all this guy does is make adjustments, and he’s likely to get even better at that with more experience.

by mrkupe on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love a patient approach as much as the next guy

but good things happen when he swings the bat.

Disappointing year so far, but he’d still have value as a Chris Iannetta type.

by ArbeeEye on Aug 6, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

final

2-4, hr, bb, 2k

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by siddfynch on Aug 7, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron "Dirty" Sanchez

4 ip, 3 hits, 4 er, 3 walks, 4 k’s, 1 hr allowed

by Alfamale on Aug 6, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

big breakout candidate for next year

him and Syndergaard are great. the Jays are just up all around. bout to bury the Rays in 4th

by daveh33 on Aug 6, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

really inconsistent season so far

by Sniderlover on Aug 7, 2011 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keyvius Sampson

5IP 4H 1R 0ER 3BB 6K

Probably done due to a rain delay.

Been struggling with walks recently.

by walnut falcons on Aug 6, 2011 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Not really

Yes, in his past two starts he’s walked 8 in 9.1 innings. But his 4 starts before that he walked 6 in 21 innings. Also consider that he’s thrown more than twice as many innings this year as he has in any previous season, and there’s room for forgiveness here.

by ajake57 on Aug 6, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's nitpicking

he can, on occasion, struggle with walks. It doesn’t seem to be a big deal.

by walnut falcons on Aug 6, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Lawrie seems to hit the ball hard every time he make contact

Hes awesome

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

fixed

Brett Lawrie seems to hit the ball hard every time he makes contact with his glove.

(jk he’s awesome)

by Alfamale on Aug 6, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

JD Martinez jacked that HR

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Hunter Pence who?

MMP is gonna be the house that JD Martinez built.

by John Black on Aug 6, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The more I see of him

The more convinced I get that he is going to hit for power. He has a prototypical power hitter’s build, great bat speed, and he has made adjustments to his swing.

He’s also a bit better of an athlete than I expected.

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by OremLK on Aug 7, 2011 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason Jason Bay keeps coming to mind

It’s probably just their career path and general profile which makes me think that. I’m not ready to say Martinez is going to have that much pop in his bat, but on the flip side, I also don’t think he will strike out as much as Bay. His skillset could give him a more consistent career than Bay, but also lower peaks. (Bay hit over 30 homers four times in his career, and while I’m getting more sold on Martinez’s power, he still doesn’t have 30+ potential.)

Just kind of thinking out loud here.

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by OremLK on Aug 7, 2011 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

?
he still doesn’t have 30+ potential

The problem here is that, at the beginning of the season, people thought that Martinez didn’t have 10-15 HR potential. Now those same people think that he has 20 HR potential. Perhaps Martinez has 30 HR and we’re all just dumb.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Aug 7, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

But his career best ISO is still .250 in his first season in the minors, and .209 for his career. That makes me think he tops out around 25 annually unless he’s made an even bigger adjustment than I think.

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by OremLK on Aug 7, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

25 would be great

i think it is possible, but wouldn’t count on it (not that you are counting on it either). people forget how good a high average 25 HR hitter is offensively, especially in the post-steroid era.

by auclairkeithbc on Aug 7, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was meaning to imply

That seems like his realistic ceiling right now.

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by OremLK on Aug 7, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

More likely 15-20

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by OremLK on Aug 7, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take

a .300 hitter with 15-20 homers who doesn’t strike out much. Looks to be at least an average defender as well. He’s exactly the sort of player HOU needs, and anything that pushes Lee to 1B full-time is a clear boon.

by blackoutyears on Aug 7, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. No Lee in LF is an instant upgrade

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by StrosSouth on Aug 7, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah

I don’t see him getting anywhere too close to Luis Gonzalez’s peak…where he was a 25 HR .320/.400/.550 type, and that excludes completely his 57 HR 1.117 OPS season.

by auclairkeithbc on Aug 7, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen

an easy comp for Martinez. I do think the power may be the difference maker between being a Bay-type impact player or a David Murphy/Matt Joyce-type solid regular. And I don’t know if I’d call his build a prototypical power hitter’s build — guys more like Thome, Dunn, Pujols, Stanton and Howard come to mind — but he is well-proportioned and strong for his height, sort of like a RHH Votto.

by blackoutyears on Aug 7, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I could see a lesser of version Luis Gonzalez, but he was pretty great in his peak.

by auclairkeithbc on Aug 7, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I guess I should have clarified, “prototypical power hitting corner outfielder’s” body. Obviously he doesn’t have the bulk of a 1B/DH type. He is thinner, but still a big and tall kid, and will probably fill out some over the next few years.

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by OremLK on Aug 7, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'd definitely built

I was impressed to see it actually. I had no idea what to expect.

by blackoutyears on Aug 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

James Paxton

is doing great so far.
5 IP, 1 H, 0R, 2 BB, 7 K,
except still effectively wild: 37 strikes/37 balls

by bp42810 on Aug 6, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Final line

6.2IP, 2H, 0R, 2BB, 10K

Lowers his ERA to 1.97 in AA. Guy seems like he could be ready for the M’s rotation some time in 2012, but I worry that he’ll get exploited by superior hitters.

by AndrewMcQ on Aug 6, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ball-strike numbers are baffling

I have the same worries, but then he’s clearly great at missing bats. His progress is going to be real interesting to watch.

Barring injury, that 2013 Mariners rotation with Felix, Pineda, Hultzen, Paxton and whoever is going to be real fun to watch, even if Hultzen and Paxton get roughed up a bit.

by dnc on Aug 6, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does include Pineda

Beavan is going to have plenty of competition for that last spot.

by dnc on Aug 6, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm impressed

considering the layoff this guy had, he’s already dominated low-A, and now at an age appropriate league he’s continuing to dominate.

by BryceHarper on Aug 6, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

randall delgado AAA debut

A success. 6 innings. 0 runs. 9 Ks. Sweet.

by scooter on Aug 6, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Watched the game Delgado brought his “A” game! His FB got up to 97 several times tonight his offspeed stuff looked great and most important he kept the ball down!

by Jay212033 on Aug 6, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rangers Miguel De Los Santos always a tease. He was very good for Myrtle Beach tonight.

7 IP | 0 H | 0 R | 2 BB | 10 SO

He walked the 1st 2 batters of the game, then retired 21 straight. All 10 SO were swinging. The radio guy had him with 18 swinging strikes. Over 240 IP in the minors he has a career 14.2 K/9, unfortunately he also has a career 5.2 BB/9. If he ever harnesses it, he’s supposed to have an insane CH. Even when he struggled in AA this year, he was getting 12.2 K/9.

by Tex2044 on Aug 6, 2011 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Alex Wimmers

4IP 2H 0ER 1BB 6K

Over his last three appearances, he’s put up 12IP 11H 6ER 2BB 13K. It certainly looks like he’s working out the control issues. Any word on how his stuff is showing?

by PissedMick on Aug 6, 2011 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

he's been a little bit hittable

but yeah the Walks have definately dissapeared ….

even before those 12 innings…… in his first few innings back he wasn’t walking anyone.

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 7, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

leg injury

day to day

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by doublestix on Aug 6, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jed Lowrie final rehab game

3 doubles. Looks like shoulder is A-OK. Time for Bawston!

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Zach Stewart for the ChiSox

6.1 inn, 8 hits, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K’s

Not bad at all

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ticked I missed it

It was actually on WGN tonight. Still haven’t seen him this year.

by blackoutyears on Aug 6, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

we’re the last two Zach Stewart fans left.

by blackoutyears on Aug 7, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a fan!

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by Marinerfanjake on Aug 7, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you're not alone
  1. on my preseason list.

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by gatling on Aug 7, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid auto-format. Stewart was #55 on my preseason list

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by gatling on Aug 7, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

You and I

always seem to be on the same page with guys like this. And Jeff is one of the few people I’ve seen keeping the faith all year, and I trust his scouting from ST.

by blackoutyears on Aug 7, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I started him in my fantasy league last night, so that has to count for something, right?

by oplaid on Aug 7, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler Skaggs

3IP, 3H, 1R, 2BB, 6K done for the night.

I survived the 2004 & 2010 seasons.
Goldschmidt is AWESOME

by dbacks25 on Aug 6, 2011 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Tyler Bortnick

4-4 2 2B BB
The guy is 24 in A+ ball so he is somewhat old, but since being drafted, he has hit with a great OBP every where he has gone. He also has 35 for 37 in stolen base attempts. For whatever reason the Rays won’t promote him.

No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.

by thedudeofdudes on Aug 6, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

ive been wondering this for awhile too

But noticed tonight that Cole figuoroa has been playing really well over the last few months so they probably want to see if he can develop at 2B. The rays are suddenly stacked with middle infielders. Only Lee is a top guy but a ton of depth

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Chris Archer

5IP 3H 3R 1ER 3BB 6K 1HR

No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.

by thedudeofdudes on Aug 6, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven't seen him, but I have read from some guys who have.

The fastball and slider are both plus, but the change is really only a show me pitch at this point. Honestly, I’m not sure if it needs to be much more if he could get some type of command.

by mr. maniac on Aug 7, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you had to say which guy makes a big league rotation

Out of Riefenhauser or Archer?. I just have a feeling Archer is going to be a bullpen guy.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 7, 2011 1:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Archer.

R—- is nice and all, but I’m not sure how much more he will progress. He could turn into a left handed Cobb, or he could get hammered in AA.

by mr. maniac on Aug 7, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good day for Orioles pitchers

Brian Matusz in AAA: 7 IP, 1 ER, 7 K, 2 BB
Chris Tillman vs. TOR: 7 IP, 2 ER, 5 K, 1 BB

Both need to show a whole lot more before I buy into any sort of comeback, but a nice night nonetheless.

Anyone else still believe?

by ArbeeEye on Aug 6, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

my concern for Matusz has been veloctiy

If that’s back to normal, then I’m happy.

by John Black on Aug 6, 2011 10:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

not much faith for Tillman

I think he’s a dummy. Good stuff, no idea how to use it.

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Agreed, just asking the hard-hitting questions

I know a couple people who were high on him coming into the year who have lost faith in him.

by ArbeeEye on Aug 6, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hard-hitting questions

I like it. Minor League Ball’s answer to Jake Tapper.

by blackoutyears on Aug 7, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blake Beaven has really impressed me tonight

Even though the Angels cant hit, he controls his ball really well. He should have a job somewhere for a long time if he keeps throwing strikes

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Its an uphill battle, I know but

Aybar can hit, Kendrick can hit, Toi Hunter can hit, Maicer Izturis can hit, mark Trumbo can hit, Bobby Abreu can hit, Vernon Wells can hit, Peter Bourjos can sorta hit, Ill give you Jeff Mathis but there are some good hitters on the Angels.

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by casejud on Aug 7, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this just happened down in spokane
Nicholas Baligod walks.
     Roan Salas triples (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Guillermo Pimentel. Nicholas Baligod scores.
     Kevin Patterson walks.
     Chris Schaeffer walks. Kevin Patterson to 2nd.
Matt Newman flies into a triple play, center fielder Ruben Sierra to catcher Jorge Alfaro to second baseman Edwin Garcia. Roan Salas out at home. Chris Schaeffer out at 2nd.

>mfw

by MonkeyEpoxy on Aug 6, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Simon Castro

7IP 4H 1R 0ER 4K

Definitely been pitching much better of late

by walnut falcons on Aug 6, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

His last three starts now

23 IP, 23 Ks, 1 BB, 5 ER

that K/BB rate is pretty damn good haha

by gobruins12345 on Aug 6, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has some of the best peripherals

Of anyone in the texas league, including swinging strikes. is he just a two pitch guy though?

by pickapeppa on Aug 6, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I believe he may have a show me changeup

I’m wondering if he is successful due to his stuff or funky/deceptive delivery.

by John Black on Aug 6, 2011 11:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

When he was pitching bad...

People said that his funky delivery isn’t actually that deceptive. So now that he’s pitching well does that mean that maybe he’s actually good? Or are people just gonna take a shot at his delivery again

by gobruins12345 on Aug 6, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has a changeup

It’s actually not too bad as long as his mechanics are in sync.

What I’m more interested in with him is his velocity. When I saw him a few starts ago, he was down to 89-91 mph, touching 93 mph once, which as you know is down a bit from where he was at last year. His slider is still impressive, though.

Tucson did not seem to agree with him at all, but I’d need to go back and look at those games to see if his delivery was out of whack or if his command just disappeared.

by mrkupe on Aug 7, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

BABIP

Something I don’t think I’ve seen anyone mention about Castro’s year has been his unsustainably high BABIPs. In Tuscon it was .372 and in San Antonio so far it’s .363.

Looking at K% and BB% splits, he’s pitched just about as well on the road in the Texas League, away from the friendly confines of his home park.

So my question is, are people down on him because of his Tuscon starts and it was a snowball effect, effectively overshadowing what he’s done in AA? Or are the scouting reports really that bad? A decrease in fastball velocity is no good, obviously. He has very good numbers in AA, though.

by pickapeppa on Aug 7, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

BABIP is much trickier in the minors

The whole idea that pitchers only have a marginal amount of control over it is based on results at the MLB level. The problem is that guys who truly are bad BABIP pitchers (put one of us out there and I guarantee major leaguers are going to be posting .500+ BABIPs) either don’t make it to the bigs or they don’t hang around to long. On the other hand, minor league defense isn’t nearly as good as it is in the majors (and the field conditions don’t help) so maybe that explains much of the BABIP. Its not something you can say too much about without seeing the guy pitch. It could just be that Castro is leaving fastballs over the middle of the plate and that’s the reason his BABIP is so high.

by nixa37 on Aug 7, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read an article recently on the BABIP performance of position players who took the mound in blowouts...

and the most startling statistic was that the BABIP allowed was nearly identical to that of regular pitchers over the same period.

Was it Jeff Sullivan on the SB Nation front page? I don’t remember.

Anyway, it certainly leads one to question how much a pitcher’s skill can affect BABIP.

by PissedMick on Aug 7, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting

Not totally applicable in this case because those players are still throwing pitches in front of a major league caliber defense, but it does provide for an interesting thread of research.

I think my first impression that I got from that statistic is that it really shows how much of an emphasis is placed on defensive ability by major league teams. Even in AAA, you have a lot of players who have below-average-to-Jesus-Montero level capabilities on defense, and a lot of guys who have no business getting ABs against major league pitchers actually do simply because they can pick it. Watching some of the Sally/Midwest League games on MiLB.tv, it’s not exactly hard to understand why many players at those levels tend to pitch for the strikeout, often to the detriment of the development of skills they’ll need at higher levels.

by mrkupe on Aug 7, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

While that is interesting

The sample size is almost assuredly way too small to actually have any actual significance.

by nixa37 on Aug 7, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus lets be honest here

How many of the batters coming up in those situations are treating it like a normal AB and how many are just looking for anything to yank out of the yard?

by nixa37 on Aug 7, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was over 200 innings worth.

Easily not a definitive sample, but enough to be intriguing.

by PissedMick on Aug 7, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends I guess

I think its clearly a function of sample size and hitters swinging for the fences against BP fastballs. I’d bet everything I have on those same guys posting .350-.400 BABIPs if they were used like normal pitchers over long periods of time.

by nixa37 on Aug 8, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

be careful with BABIP

High BABIP can simply mean bad luck, but it may also suggest a lack of skill and/or talent. At the major league level BABIP tends to be controlled within a certain range, partially because of the talent level of major league players and partially because anybody who doesn’t measure up to major league standards either isn’t there or gets sent down before their performance has a discernible effect on the overall data set. It’s much less controlled in the minors, where talent and skill levels lie along a much larger continuum and players are occasionally placed in levels beyond their capabilities.

He was terrible in Tucson, but when he first returned to San Antonio he didn’t have a whole lot of success there, either. I saw a guy who was going high effort to put the ball into the 90s with nearly non-existent command, so yeah, that’s pretty bad. He’s had a good run lately but I have not seen him since, so maybe he’s fixed something.

I’m still worried about how his command as a starter is going to hold up when he gets to AAA again. Last year he looked like a guy who was clearly going to need to spend a year if not more in AAA to realize his potential, but I don’t think anybody was expecting that kind of total collapse. I’d be tempted just to move him to the pen with an eye towards getting him to SD to start 2012.

by mrkupe on Aug 7, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

we actually had the BABIP discussion about a week ago...

under the review of SD prospects, I think…and I’m a Castro supporter, FYI.

by dbreer23 on Aug 7, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

by supporter you mean?

Frontline arm? Mid-rotation? Back of rotation? Closer? Solid bullpen arm? Lots of different ways for a player to be successful . . .

by mrkupe on Aug 7, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been hitting more lately...

Still wanna see some power before considering him a huge dissapointment

by gobruins12345 on Aug 6, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gary Sanchez

2-3 HR, BB, No passballs and caught a guy stealing.

HOT.

by BryceHarper on Aug 6, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

HAWT

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trayvon Robinson HR of Chatwood

Left center field. Ive liked what ive seen out of Trayvon the past 2 games

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 6, 2011 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Jedd Gyorko

1/3, HR, BB

Been a rough ride in AA.

by John Black on Aug 6, 2011 11:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Very rough

But that’s a big jump into a pitchers park. I think he handles AA much better next season

by pickapeppa on Aug 6, 2011 11:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yes

He’s a very talented pure hitter with a good eye for picking his spots, but his lack of physicality has really hurt him at this level.

by mrkupe on Aug 7, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sappelt

getting the call tomorrow. Thoughts on if he’ll produce??

by Legalize It on Aug 6, 2011 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he'll hit

Not sure about power, but he should hit. The LF Jose Altuve?

by blackoutyears on Aug 7, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Taylor Lindsey

5-5 tonight in Orem and has hit for the cycle

by deltarich on Aug 6, 2011 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

T-Bex

hitting leadoff,

3-5, BB, 2 SO, 2 SB 15, E 20

by daveh33 on Aug 7, 2011 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

couple SAL guys

Trayce Th, 3-4, BB, 2B, SB

Lipka, 2-5, SB

C Perez, 5 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 3 K 7/4 GO/FO

by daveh33 on Aug 7, 2011 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

kipnis

2-5, with ANOTHER hr

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by siddfynch on Aug 7, 2011 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

beast

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 7, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think hes that good

but he wil be very good

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by mathisrocks5 on Aug 7, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Taylor entered tonight's game

hitting .297/.381/.488 with 12 HRs and a 55/34 K/BB in about 300 PAs.

Went 1/2, HR, 2 BB tonight. I’m fully convinced that he’s all the way back now. Looks like we can chalk up 2010 as an injury-marred aberration.

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by hero66 on Aug 7, 2011 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

A's

So why didn’t those fools move DeJesus or Willingham at the deadline? Wondering if those two have already or could pass through waivers and be dealt in the next couple of weeks.

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by Savoy on Aug 7, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

your guess is as good as mine

"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson

by hero66 on Aug 8, 2011 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's 26 in AAA

is time becoming an issue for him?

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Aug 7, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

That (though he's actually 25) and the stats aren't that good for the PCL

I guess part of the league factor is offset by the fact that he’s in Sacramento, but I don’t see a guy who will be good enough to start for an average of better team.

by nixa37 on Aug 7, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good thing

he’s in the Oakland organization.

by Arlo Brunsberg's Swing on Aug 7, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

he should be up now

but he’s hitting better than he was before his disastrous 2010. everything seems to be clicking. i think he’ll be fine. not too worried about ARL because he’s had injuries that have set him back.

"BA doesn't stand for Batting Average. It’s Brandon Allen, as in the percentage of a hitter’s worth compared to Brandon Allen. Ted Williams, at his best, was only 4/10th of the hitter Brandon Allen is today." - YonYonson

by hero66 on Aug 8, 2011 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Kalish

3 for 4, and probably not long for Low-A.

by blackoutyears on Aug 7, 2011 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Jack Marder

Behind the dish, 2-4, 2B, SB (2).

 3 K’s, 0 BB’s, 1 HR in 44 Cal League AB’s playing for High Desert. The anti Rob Deer.

by dnc on Aug 7, 2011 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

rangers draft pick Will Lamb

4 IP | 5 H | 2 ER | 5 BB | 5 K

Dude has struggled with command lately after being pretty solid earlier this year.

32 IP | 19 BB | 38 K | 3 HR on the year

>mfw

by MonkeyEpoxy on Aug 7, 2011 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Miguel Sano 2-4 , BB

played SS

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 7, 2011 2:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Vinnie Catricala with a homer. 1.031 OPS in AA, though the K:BB rate leaves a bit to be desired (not that his K rate is terrible, or his BB rate is atrocious, but neither is that great either).

by limozeen on Aug 7, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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