2011 Draft signing deadline -- Who will not sign?
by Savoy on Aug 6, 2011 2:40 PM EDT
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Signing deadline is only 9 days away. Which of these 2011 draftees will not sign with their teams by the deadline?
I will go with 5 names who I predict will not sign:
1. Josh Bell--I think it is pretty well known that he will be heading to the University of Texas in the fall.
2. Jackie Bradley, Jr.--I hope I am wrong but I can see him heading back to USC and trying to become a top 10 pick in 2012.
3. Dwight Smith, Jr.--The Blue Jays can't sign all these guys can they?
4. Tyler Beede--I think Tim Corbin convinces him to come to Vanderbilt and that the Jays sign Daniel Norris which makes the need to sign Beede a little less.
5. Dillon Howard--He decides that in 2014 he could be the #1 pick in the draft. (totally just pulled that out of my back-end though)
| 1 | 1 | Pittsburgh Pirates | Gerrit Cole | RHP | UCLA | Calif. |
| 2 | 2 | Seattle Mariners | Danny Hultzen | LHP | Virginia | Va. |
| 4 | 4 | Baltimore Orioles | Dylan Bundy | RHP | Owasso (Okla.) HS | Okla. |
| 5 | 5 | Kansas City Royals | Bubba Starling | OF | Gardner-Edgerton HS, Gardner, Kan. | Kan. |
| 6 | 6 | Washington Nationals | Anthony Rendon | 3B | Rice | Texas |
| 7 | 7 | Arizona Diamondbacks | Archie Bradley | RHP | Broken Arrow (Okla.) HS | Okla. |
| 8 | 8 | Cleveland Indians | Francisco Lindor | SS | Montverde (Fla.) Academy | Fla. |
| 9 | 9 | Chicago Cubs | Javier Baez | SS | Arlington Country Day HS, Jacksonville, Fla. | Fla. |
| 11 | 11 | Houston Astros | George Springer | OF | Connecticut | Conn. |
| 12 | 12 | Milwaukee Brewers | Taylor Jungmann | RHP | Texas | Texas |
| 13 | 13 | New York Mets | Brandon Nimmo | OF | East HS, Cheyenne, Wyo. | Wyo. |
| 14 | 14 | Florida Marlins | Jose Fernandez | RHP | Alonso HS, Tampa | Fla. |
| 15 | 15 | Milwaukee Brewers | Jed Bradley | LHP | Georgia Tech | Ga. |
| 16 | 16 | Los Angeles Dodgers | Chris Reed | LHP | Stanford | Calif. |
| 19 | 19 | Boston Red Sox | Matt Barnes | RHP | Connecticut | Conn. |
| 20 | 20 | Colorado Rockies | Tyler Anderson | LHP | Oregon | Ore. |
| 21 | 21 | Toronto Blue Jays | Tyler Beede | RHP | Lawrence Academy, Groton, Mass. | Mass. |
| 23 | 23 | Washington Nationals | Alex Meyer | RHP | Kentucky | Ky. |
| 24 | 24 | Tampa Bay Rays | Taylor Guerrieri | RHP | Spring Valley HS, Columbia, S.C. | S.C. |
| 25 | 25 | San Diego Padres | Joe Ross | RHP | Bishop O'Dowd HS, Oakland | Calif. |
| 26 | 26 | Boston Red Sox | Blake Swihart | C | Cleveland HS, Rio Rancho, N.M. | N.M. |
| 27 | 27 | Cincinnati Reds | Robert Stephenson | RHP | Alhambra HS, Martinez, Calif. | Calif. |
| 30 | 30 | Minnesota Twins | Levi Michael | SS | North Carolina | N.C. |
| 31 | 31 | Tampa Bay Rays | Mikie Mahtook | OF | Louisiana State | La. |
| 1 | 34 | Washington Nationals | Brian Goodwin | OF | Miami Dade JC | Fla. |
| 3 | 36 | Boston Red Sox | Henry Owens | LHP | Edison HS, Huntington Beach, Calif. | Calif. |
| 6 | 39 | Philadelphia Phillies | Larry Greene | OF | Berrien County HS, Nashville, Ga. | Ga. |
| 7 | 40 | Boston Red Sox | Jackie Bradley | OF | South Carolina | S.C. |
| 8 | 41 | Tampa Bay Rays | Tyler Goeddel | 3B | St. Francis HS, Mountain View, Calif. | Calif. |
| 10 | 43 | Arizona Diamondbacks | Andrew Chafin | LHP | Kent State | Ohio |
| 15 | 48 | San Diego Padres | Michael Kelly | RHP | West Boca Raton (Fla.) HS | Fla. |
| 17 | 50 | Minnesota Twins | Travis Harrison | 3B | Tustin (Calif.) HS | Calif. |
| 20 | 53 | Toronto Blue Jays | Dwight Smith Jr. | OF | McIntosh (Ga.) HS | Ga. |
| 21 | 54 | San Diego Padres | Brett Austin | C | Providence HS, Charlotte | N.C. |
| 22 | 55 | Minnesota Twins | Hudson Boyd | RHP | Bishop Verot HS, Fort Myers, Fla. | Fla. |
| 24 | 57 | Toronto Blue Jays | Kevin Comer | RHP | Seneca HS, Tabernacle, N.J. | N.J. |
| 26 | 59 | Tampa Bay Rays | Grayson Garvin | LHP | Vanderbilt | Tenn. |
| 1 | 61 | Pittsburgh Pirates | Josh Bell | OF | Dallas Jesuit HS | Texas |
| 2 | 62 | Seattle Mariners | Brad Miller | SS | Clemson | S.C. |
| 3 | 63 | Arizona Diamondbacks | Anthony Meo | RHP | Coastal Carolina | S.C. |
| 4 | 64 | Baltimore Orioles | Jason Esposito | 3B | Vanderbilt | Tenn. |
| 6 | 66 | Philadelphia Phillies | Roman Quinn | OF | Port St. Joe (Fla.) HS | Fla. |
| 7 | 67 | Cleveland Indians | Dillon Howard | RHP | Searcy (Ark.) HS | Ark. |
| 8 | 68 | Chicago Cubs | Dan Vogelbach | 1B | Bishop Verot HS, Fort Myers, Fla. | Fla. |
| 10 | 70 | Milwaukee Brewers | Jorge Lopez | RHP | Academia de Milagrosa, Cayey, P.R. | P.R. |
| 12 | 72 | Florida Marlins | Adam Conley | LHP | Washington State | Wash. |
| 14 | 74 | Toronto Blue Jays | Daniel Norris | LHP | Science Hill HS, Johnson City, Tenn. | Tenn. |
| 16 | 76 | Detroit Tigers | James McCann | C | Arkansas | Ark. |
| 19 | 79 | St. Louis Cardinals | Charlie Tilson | OF | New Trier HS, Winnetka, Ill. | Ill. |
| 22 | 82 | San Diego Padres | Austin Hedges | C | JSerra HS, San Juan Capistrano, Calif. | Calif. |
| 26 | 86 | San Francisco Giants | Andrew Susac | C | Oregon State | Ore. |
| 28 | 88 | New York Yankees | Sam Stafford | LHP | Texas | Texas |
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Rangers 5th rounder
Woodruff has already stated he is going to MSU
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
It's all speculation at this point
Just sit back and watch it unfold.
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I thought
that all we did on this site was to speculate and predict the future.
What’s the point of just sitting back & watching??? That wouldn’t be much fun.
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You're mistaken then
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In players who signed that were considered tough signs
The Yankees locked up 14th-round pick Rookie Davis for $550,000, the highest bonus outside of 3rd this year at this point. Sounds like a Casey Kelly situation, Davis wants to play the field and the Yanks want him to pitch.
Any other tough signs your teams have locked up?
okay, let's give it a roll just on the guys you posted here
Beede is already most likely locked up to a well-over-slot deal. Norris probably doesn’t sign, a shame for the Jays as I had a nice grade on him. Red Sox sign all their guys. Austin Hedges doesn’t sign, I don’t think he’s giving a discount and he’s not really a guy you want to go way over slot on. Dillon Howard doesn’t sign, he wanted a huge payday.
Out of guys in the first round besides Beede, I’m not seeing too many big signability risks. Taylor Guerrieri might not happen, but it looks like everything shaked out pretty well this year.
Hedges
He reportedly dropped his asking price from $4m to $3m. I’m reading your quote: “I don’t think he’s giving a discount”
two different ways. Are you saying you don’t think $3m is a discount, or you don’t know if he has dropped his asking price? TIA
I was unaware that he had dropped his price, but at that number, let's go with the first
$4 million is an unreasonable price for him. $3 million is also unreasonable, so I really can’t consider it a discount. He’s nowhere near $3 million of prospect.
Using comparable recent situations and my own assessment of his value, I wouldn’t go more than $1.2-$1.3 million on him, and even that would be a little too rich for me. If he’s serious about $3 million, I can’t see the negotiations going anywhere.
I know this is random but
I read on a san diego writers blog that a scout had Hedges as a top 10 talent. Ridiculous assertion? If true though (I don’t think you agree), does that make $3m more reasonable?
by pickapeppa on Aug 6, 2011 11:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not ridiculous, and if true, then yes it's reasonable
I don’t even have a problem with somebody thinking he’s a top 10 talent. He’s certainly got a lot of talent and individual scouting opinion is far more diversified than the paid sources will tell you. And if he’s a top 10 talent, then yes, given his leverage as a prep player you could justify $3 million without much of a problem.
The problem is that he’s a prep catcher whose glove is ahead of his bat, and those guys almost always develop MUCH better in college than they do if they go straight to the pros. So if that “top 10 talent” is qualified by “in 3 years after he goes to school”, I’d be very cautious.
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by pickapeppa on Aug 7, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
North County Times
wrote yesterday: “Sources say the club is far apart with Ross, although a deal could be worked out, close with Kelly and Austin. Hedges is considered unsignable.”
Beede skipped Vandy summer classes he had signed up for
and Norris was in Florida for a Jays physical.
FWIW
yeah, I was aware of both of those developments
I don’t think there is any doubt that Beede is signing with the Blue Jays. Only way it doesn’t happen is if he suddenly changes his mind, but I think he was probably set on going pro as soon as he went first round.
The physical was probably a formality prior to the start of serious negotiations. I’m sure negotiations, no matter how they turn out, will go down to the last or perhaps the next-to-last day. I would guess that the physical was done early so that in the event that it’s needed in the case that a deal is completed, it doesn’t need to be done at the last minute. It gives both sides more time to sit at the table.
Cubs
In a recent chat (or tweet, can’t remember which), Callis indicated that the Commissioner’s Office is sitting on a bunch of Cubs overslot signings. There were reports that they had Baez and Vogelbach under wraps, but the current rumors have them signing Dunston, Maples, Urban, and Jacquez while making a late run at Zimmer.
Considering the early positive returns on Rosario and Easterling, along with the recent signings of Jensen and Marra, I’m legitimately excited to see what the deadline will bring the Cubs.
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but the current rumors have them signing…Maples
very very very doubtful unless they pony up 2.5 million. Kid LOVES UNC and iis here in Chapel Hill as we speak. Does it mean that they won’t sign him? No. But it seems like it’s going to be hard.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Aug 7, 2011 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was 3.5
but the rumor was that the Cubs offered him basically what he wanted, or close enough, and it was in the Maples camp now.
This is what I've heard
The money demand has been met; it’s just up to him to decide if he wants to take it.
Dillon Howard
The Indians certainly didn’t draft him not to sign him. Will be for first round money, but wouldn’t surprise me if they do get him to sign.
Dillon Howard & Dillon Peters
Are playing on the same summer team FWIW.
by ttnorm on Aug 8, 2011 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Im suprised Chris Reed hasnt signed
I thought he’d be like Drew Storen and sign immediatley
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In the most hilarious development of the 2011 draft
It turns out Chris Reed is a Boras client.
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So I’m guessing any over slot deal gets nixed? So much for a signable college arm. An even bigger kick to the groin for the Dodgers.
by CaptainCanuck on Aug 6, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
likely, but on the bright side
There’s no way that Chris Reed is going to turn down No. 16 overall slot money, is he?
No, that would be crazy
But I’m guessing the Dodgers were hoping for an easy sign.
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Eh, I guess not
but still, the fact that he hasn’t signed yet is fairly amusing. On the off chance he doesn’t sign, I can only imagine how hilarious that would be.
by CaptainCanuck on Aug 7, 2011 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Boras is much too smart to let him not sign
Chris Reed has a chance to start, but we’re probably looking at a power lefty given his present command. No way Boras advises him to turn down slot money.
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Boras knows the Dodgers can't go over slot anyways
because MLB controls their draft. As long as he is offered slot Boras will take it IMO.
Chris Reed appears to have signed
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Rumor is out there
Pirates are allegedly willing to offer Bell a contract in excess of $4.25 million dollars, and have been in contact with his family recently, who are at least willing to hear the Pirates sales pitch and think it over.
Always a chance I guess.
Will take more than that
Might need over 8M. Kid seems dead set on going to college. I hope he signs though.
by CaptainCanuck on Aug 7, 2011 5:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Keith Law
Says 6-8 million WON’T get it done.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GuEHp3LiTdkJ:espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/38833+josh+bell+8+million+keith+law&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com
It is near the bottom of the chat…maybe 10 questions up.
by auclairkeithbc on Aug 7, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
is he hiding under the Bell family's dining room table or something?
by mrkupe on Aug 7, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have to believe that the vast majority of leaks in this situation are coming from Boras or his employees. This is standard MO for him in these types of situations, even though he can only officially be an “advisor” to Bell at this point.
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He'd probably fit relatively easily
You never can tell.
Jim Callis
I pushed him about it on twitter. He eventually said 10 million, but followed that up with an “I don’t know if he would go for it though”. Time will tell I suppose. I can’t see the logic in passing up 10 million, but then again I can’t see the logic in passing up 5 million either.
Callis has been very adamant in saying that Bell won’t sign.
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If Bell signs...
Does this make Callis a Boras toadie?
Actually, he’s been so adamant that Bell won’t sign for any amount that the Pirates would be willing to pay that he’s probably not helping things at this point. But I could be wrong.
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If the Pirates are getting their best information from Jim Callis, they’ve got bigger problems than not being able to sign Josh Bell!
by realitypolice on Aug 10, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I would be shocked if he didn't sign
he has Boras as an advisor. All the other talk is posturing for $$$
I'm not anywhere near that confident
I’d say 60/40 on him going to school. There’s just too much “there’s no way he signs” out there for it to be likely. It has a similar feel to Austin Wilson last year.
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There have been plenty of HS guys that worked with Boras that didn’t sign.
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which ones?
im struggling to remember them
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 8, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i really think thats just about it...
his college guys do it pretty frequently…but the HS guys generally sign
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Off the top of my head, I know for sure:
Gerrit Cole, Matt Harvey, Levon Washington, Jacoby Jones and Deandre Smelter – I think Dom Ficociello was also a Boras advisee last year.
I’m sure that I could come up with more names with a bit of research.
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none of those guys were top 5 or 10 draft picks though...
where the money couldnt really be topped by improving their stock in college. cole would probably be the best example out of all those guys…but with starling already reportedly being offered $7.5, his money wont increase
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 9, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure why you’re bringing up Starling. We’re specifically discussing Josh Bell in this portion of the thread. In any case, the actual draft position doesn’t matter. The challenge posed to me was to name some HS prospects that were advised by Boras & Co. that ended up going to college despite being drafted and offerred significant signing bonuses. I named 5 of them that I had in mind when I wrote my original comment.
The similarities between Bell and Cole’s situations are striking even if the $$$ amounts being discussed aren’t in the same ballpark. Both Bell and Cole would have likely been top 10 picks if not for a strongly stated preference to go to college. Cole did not turn down the Yankees substantial offer with a view towards doing better 3 years down the line and if Bell turns down the Pirates he will be doing it for many of the same reasons.
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I don't think Bell is really on Cole's level
Josh Bell was a sold mid first round talent to me, borderline top 20. Austin Wilson is the much easier parallel, I think.
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yeah...my bad entirely...
i was discussing bubba on a thread on RR and got them confused…proceed
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 9, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Senquez Golson(sp)
whats the latest on him? He insists he’s playing college football but BA says he’ll sign
Signed
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Is that right?
Not to go overboard on hyperbole, but Houston’s system could use a guy like Jack Armstrong II. I can’t imagine they’d have to go too far overboard to get it done, right?
I'm guessing he'll want at least supplemental round money
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I agree
Wouldn’t you think that Houston would be amenable to offering an $800K-$1M or so (give or take) bonus for a college product with Armstong II’s talent though? I’d hope so but we’ll see soon enough I guess.
They should but who knows if they will
Armstrong is a very important piece to that draft class.
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No kidding
They aren’t that far removed from the Derek Dietrich-Brett Eibner-Chad Bettis draft so anything’s possible.
IMO
Beede, Bradley,Jr., and Dillon Howard will all sign. I doubt that Bell will sign, and I have no idea on Smith, Jr. but I would bet the odds are much better than 50/50 that he does sign. I think that everybody in the first round will sign, but if there is a surprise it will probably come from Swihart or Ross. I would normally say Archie Bradley would be a very difficult sign, but the D’backs can spread his bonus over 5 years due to his football scholarship so that’s likley a done deal.
The Giants have already signed all of their top 14 round picks except Susac, Ricky Oropesa, and Josh Osich (in fact, they only have 20 of their 51 draftees still unsigned). Susac and Oropesa are done deals and will sign, but I have no clue about Osich. It all depends on the state of his elbow, and as far as I can find out he still hasn’t pitched since he was pulled in the first inning of his last start the day before the draft.
BTW, you need to update your list. The Brewers signed their 2nd round pick, Jorge Lopez, a few days ago.
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ross would be a concern, yes
I don’t see Swihart being a problem as the Red Sox always pay for the guys high on their lists. One thing I’m wondering about is the possible connection of Josh Bell to Swihart’s signability. Both players are committed to play for UT, and if one decides to go to school, I could see the other hopping on board as well to form the core of a monster lineup over the next few years.
Still, I’m guessing Swihart gets done for well over slot. He probably wouldn’t have a problem getting drafted this high again in three years with his talent on both sides of the field, but again, the Red Sox haven’t lost too many high-round tough signs. Hunter Morris is the last one I can think of . . .
+1
I didn’t mean to imply that the Swihart signing would come down to a money issue. I think the Sox will almost certainly be willing to pay up to about $4M for the #26 overall pick. My only concern was that Swihart has made some noise before about being one of those guys that really wants to go to college. Sometimes you just can’t sign those types of guys unless you throw an obscene amount of money on the table in front of them. But Swihart was just a gut-instinct guess, as I stated, I think that all of the top 31 first round picks will likely end up signing.
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yeah...like cole with the yankees 3 years ago
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by billybeingbilly on Aug 7, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget Matt Dean
He could have an immediate impact at UT too if the Jays don’t ink him.
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The rumor is that Dean's signed, and they're sitting on a deal.
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by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 7, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be a really nice get for Toronto
I like Dean quite a bit.
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that is surprising news
He sounded like an extremely tough sign.
They're supposedly in final negotiations today
according to Dean he’s in Florida working on it.
by TtD on Aug 8, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't imagine the Jays not signing 2 of their top guys
Why would they spend $7-8 mil on 4 international signings if they weren’t going to pay a couple of guys at the top of their draft?
by Matthew Mueller on Aug 7, 2011 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
I can see that with Dwight Smith Jr. but I don’t see it with Beede. There was too much quality on the board at 22 to pick someone you are not going to make an effort to sign.
by Matthew Mueller on Aug 7, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
they could make an efford to sign
and still not get the deal done. its all speculation at this point.
I demand to be heard.
Dillon Maples > Dillon Howard.
I’m not sure if both first names are spelled the same, but maybe.
I think Maples signs.
Where are you getting that from?
I don’t see anything about him being expected to sign. In fact, that would be one of the bigger surprises, I think.
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From the article
The Nationals are still expected to sign all four players by the deadline.
Missed that
My next question would be “still?”
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If Purke is “healthy” as the article states, then why hasn’t he thrown in any games this summer? Any team in the Cape Cod League would have been happy to add him to their roster at any point this summer. If he threw even just 1 game where his velocity and slider was back to 2010 levels then his marker value would skyrocket.
Above and beyond that, if Purke is healthy then I can’t see him signing for anything less than $4M. Are you saying that the Nats are willing to give him top 5 pick money?
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I just don't think he's that interested in signing this year
I do believe that he’s healthy, but it’s not a bad thing for him to take the summer off. Whether he can stay healthy with that delivery, whether the stuff returns to his Freshman year level, whether his command returns, THOSE are the issues I have with Matt Purke. The one that I saw last year just wasn’t very good.
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Surprising news... thought he was an "easy" sign
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I'm actually not all that surprised
He sounded like a tough sign who wanted a BIG payday. I guess he hasn’t moved off of his pre-draft demands. It’d be a real bummer for the Reds – I had a rather high grade on him.
As a Husky fan, this thrills me
Not sure I buy it though
And also from Kendall Rogers
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On the other hand
I think the national media is grossly inflating the Bell demands (w/ help from player advisor). Id guess ~$6M and say it’s entirely possible
That’s from Jason Park’s twitter account today
Non sequor
~6M is the non grossly inflated price?
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Trevor Gretzky
It’s being reported in several places that the signing with the Cubs has been rejected and he’s unsigned right now. Cubs are now supposedly focusing on Rock Shoulders as their 2nd first baseman from this class (to go with Vogelbach). Honestly, Shoulders might be the better first baseman.
Jim Callis had an update on this on his Twitter feed
He made it sound more like MLB wanted backsies on the announcement than the Cubs or Gretzky voiding the deal for something like Gretzky failing a physical.
We’ll figure out what happened on 8/15.
by Outshined_One on Aug 8, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
if the Cubs manage to clean up on the other top guys out there, namely, Maples, this is going to be one heck of a signing and spending effort by the org, at least, compared to year’s past.
Rock Shoulders. Is that his real name? Man, that sounds straight out of 1950s era central casting.
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real name is
I think , Roderick Shoulders.
This is why it's best to ignore everything until a signing occurs or the deadline passes
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yup
i forgot about this thread, but it started leaking out a couple days ago that those previous rumors were false.
Also, Gretzky will get a look at 3rd base, along with corner OF roles.
Interesting
LF might be viable, but I defenitely don’t see a third baseman in Gretzky.
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Rangers negative on Fisher
Rangers officials indicated they do not expect to sign Cedar Crest (Pa.) High School outfielder Derek Fisher, their sixth-round pick from the 2011 First-Year Player Draft who has a scholarship to the University of Virginia. Fisher was the Pennsylvania High School Player of the Year, but at this point, his asking price exceeds what the Rangers are willing to pay.
(HT to MLB Trade Rumors – http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011-amateur-draft/ )
This was expected
He and Bell were arguably the 2 toughest signs in the draft.
There are quite a few tougher signs than Fisher out there
But you’re basically on point.
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Honestly
I can only think of Austin Hedges as another guy that was known to be as hard of a sign as those two.
Three off the top of my head
Patrick Connaughton
Amir Garrett
Brandon Magallones
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I thought it was assumed we were talking about round 1-2 guys
None of those 3 are top 2 round talents.
I didn't realize that was the assumption
Of course, without a ND basketball scholarship, I could see Connaughton being popped that high.
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Really?
He seems like more of a 4-5th round guy. I know his frame and projection are great, but he’s certainly still as much project as he is prospect. (But he’s a damn fine small forward!)
by realitypolice on Aug 11, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I could absolutely see someone buying in and popping him that high
Very high ceiling and as a Northern pitcher you can dream on what happens once he focuses on baseball year round.
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Dillon Howard
Just a heads up:
KendallRogersPG Kendall Rogers
In addition to #Arkansas signee Greg Bird, #Hogs signee Dillon Howard, #Indians 2nd-rdr, is fully expected to sign right now. #mlbdraft #MLB
Braves 14th rd pk Navery Moore
Signed! He was expected to go much higher, kid has great stuff and will be given a chance to start
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#Mariners third-round pick and #TCU signee Kevin Cron is moving into his dorm in Fort Worth this morning. Drove from PHX to do so. #mlbdraft
KendallRogersPG Kendall Rogers
Cron driving all that way sounds a lot like Kevin Gausman and #LSU last season. But that by no means indicates he’s for sure going to #TCU.
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Interesting
The M’s could really use that bat in their system.
Yes they could
I was always afraid they might not be able to sign him. CJ’s injury gave me a little hope it might cause Kevin to reevaluate, but if he doesn’t sign I won’t be shocked at all. Of course, this could all be a negotiating tactic, but it certainly suggests there’s no basic framework for a deal in place waiting for the deadline so they can announce the overslot signing.
I’m worried they might not sign Marlette, too, as well as Cohoes who I have an irrational desire to see in the M’s system.
I see what you did there
Nice work Mr. Fonzareli.
by realitypolice on Aug 11, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
We can only hope that negotiations went smoothly overall & Kyle never suggested that Kevin Towers ‘sit on it’ at any point.
Chafin and Bradley to do
That’s quite a draft class of arms
surprised he lasted till 10th round?
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Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 11, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
No
He dealt with some arm issues late in the season.
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He'll still end up with $8 million or so
Same with Hultzen. Neither is getting more than $10 million.
I'll disagree partially
I think Cole and Hultzen will have a significant degree of separation in their financial takes from their respective deals.
I agree they should
But I’m not sure they will. They are asking for essentially the same amount right now.
this is great for them
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Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 11, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
http://minors.mlblogs.com/2011/08/12/blue-jays-beede-agree-to-disagree/
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that's very interesting news
I really liked Beede a lot and thought he was being underrated. He must agree. :)
Losing Beede means that the Jays really need to bring in Daniel Norris. I would have adored this draft if they could have gotten both.
I wouldn't count Beede out
I still think there’s a decent chance they land both.
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I'll take Posturing for $600, Alex
At least I hope so.
From what I gathered from KLaw on twitter
was that the Jays and Beede had a pre-draft deal and his camp let that slip at some point. This could be the Jays attempt to avoid a fine or whatever trouble it is they can get in for this, and KLaw feels very confident they end up getting a deal done.
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Jim Callis and John Manuel said that they think that the pre-draft deal was between Beede and 1 or 2 other teams – not the Jays.
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