Los Angeles Dodgers 2011 Top 20 PRE-SEASON Prospects in Review
Los Angeles Dodgers 2011 Top 20 PRE-SEASON Prospects in Review
I am reviewing my PRE-SEASON list of Top 20 prospects for 2011 for each organization, continuing today with the Los Angeles Dodgers. This list was originally published December 30, 2010. The last team, the Cleveland Indians, will be reviewed tomorrow afternoon.
This is a review of the 2011 Pre-Season Top 20 list. IT IS NOT A NEW LIST. THESE ARE NOT NEW GRADES
The 2012 list and new grades won't be ready until the season is over and I start writing the book.
1) Dee Gordon, SS, Grade B: Hit .333/.373/.410 with 30 steals, 18 walks, 40 strikeouts in 288 at-bats for Triple-A Albuquerque. Hitting .234/.248/.270 in 111 at-bats for the Dodgers, with 12 steals, two walks, 18 strikeouts. Disruptive on the bases, but lack of patience and power works against him. I think he will gradually improve, but given his relative rawness his struggles should not have been unexpected.
2) Jerry Sands, 1B-OF, Grade B: Hitting .266/.331/.576 with 24 homers, 30 walks, 73 strikeouts in 304 at-bats for Albuquerque. Hit .200/.294/.328 with 17 walks, 33 strikeouts in 125 major league at-bats. I think he will eventually adjust.
3) Trayvon Robinson, OF, Grade B: Traded to Mariners at the deadline. Hitting combined .289/.374/.552 with 26 homers, 48 walks, 126 strikeouts in 377 Triple-A at-bats between Albuquerque and Tacoma, 9-for-36 with a homer and four doubles so far in the majors. Is power burst real or PCL illusion?
4) Kenley Jansen, RHP, Grade B: 3.65 ERA with 61/21 K/BB in 37 innings for the Dodgers, 23 hits. Outstanding strikeout rate, needs to sharpen control and stay healthy.
5) Rubby De La Rosa, RHP, Grade B: 2.93 ERA with 52/19 K/BB in 40 innings for Double-A Chattanooga led to major league promotion. 3.71 ERA in 61 innings, 60/31 K/BB, 54 hits, 1.32 GO/AO. Impressive rookie season ended early due to Tommy John surgery.
6) Zach Lee, RHP, Grade B: 3.41 ERA with 84/28 K/BB in 95 innings for Low-A Great Lakes, 86 hits. No complaints yet, scouting reports solid.
7) Chris Withrow, RHP, Grade B-: 4.55 ERA with 113/66 K/BB in 113 innings for Chattanooga, 103 hits. Command still wobbles at times, but still picking up strikeouts at a good clip.
8) Aaron Miller, LHP, Grade B-: Limited to 32 innings for High-A Rancho Cucamonga by injury, has a 4.22 ERA with 28/18 K/BB and 36 hits. Components unimpressive but could improve with fresh start next year.
9) Allen Webster, RHP, Grade B-: 2.33 ERA with 62/21 K/BB in 54 innings, 46 hits, for Rancho, 4.75 ERA with 62/29 K/BB in 78 innings for Chat, with 84 hits. Combined 1.64 GO/AO. Still a lot of potential with this one.
10) Ethan Martin, RHP, Grade C+: 7.36 ERA with 61/37 K/BB in 55 innings for Rancho, 65 hits. 3.33 ERA with 29/15 K/BB in 27 innings for Chat, with 20 hits, performing more effectively at the higher level in the bullpen. Command still an issue but his chances look better than they did three months ago.
11) Scott Elbert, LHP, Grade C+: 3.27 ERA with 21/8 K/BB in 22 major league innings, 15 hits. Could gradually take a larger role as long as command stays decent.
12) Leon Landry, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .247/.303/.363 with 24 steals, 32 walks, 61 strikeouts in 441 at-bats for Great Lakes. Quite disappointing, I felt he was capable of much better than this and could show more power and OBP.
13) Kyle Russell, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .256/.340/.495 with 19 homers, 44 walks, 143 strikeouts in 386 at-bats for Chat. Impressive power is still here, but strikeout/contact issues remain serious and he's 25 now.
14) Garrett Gould, RHP, Grade C+: 2.43 ERA with 98/36 K/BB in 115 innings for Great Lakes, 95 hits, 1.00 GO/AO. A fine full-season debut, although transition to less-friendly California League next year will be interesting.
15) Brian Cavazos-Galvez, OF, Grade C+: .267/.292/.442 with 10 homers, nine walks, 60 strikeouts, 12 steals in 360 at-bats for Chat. He doesn't strike out that much, which is good, but extremely low walk rate finally caught up with him.
16) James Baldwin, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .257/.344/.486 with eight homers, 11 walks, 52 strikeouts, 18 steals in 140 at-bats for Ogden in the Pioneer League. Power/speed potential stands out, but strikeout rate is too high and overall production isn't great for the offensive context.
17) Jake Lemmerman, SS, Grade C+: .293/.379/.420 with 47 walks, 90 strikeouts in 400 at-bats for Rancho. Hitting .250/.345/.583 in first six Double-A games for Chat. I don't think he has the range to stay at shortstop, but the bat could be quite useful coming off the bench.
18) Javier Solano, RHP, Grade C+: 4.09 ERA with 45/9 K/BB in 44 innings for Rancho, 54 hits. 1.59 ERA with 19/9 K/BB in 23 innings for Chat, 19 hits. Looks like a solid relief prospect to me.
19) Matt Magill, RHP, Grade C+: 4.05 ERA with 114/46 K/BB in 131 innings for Rancho, 146 hits. Considering the difficult pitching environment in the Cal League, he's done quite well and he could be a big surprise next year in Double-A.
20) Jonathan Garcia, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .240/.293/.451 with 19 homers, 26 walks, 119 strikeouts in 412 at-bats for Great Lakes. Loads of power, young at age 19, but needs a lot of work with the strike zone.
I think Gordon and Sands will both come around eventually, although in both cases it might not be until people start to give up on them. Lee and Gould have been effective in the Midwest League, but moving up to the Cal League in 2012 will challenge them. There are several toolsy outfielders with strike zone issues, and I thought Landry would be better than this. Rubby's elbow injury is unfortunate but I bet he comes back in 2013 just fine.
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Thoughts on Angel Sanchez?
Having a nice year at Great Lakes; came out of nowhere. Following the De La Rosa path, though, the arm isn’t as electric..
by FeelinKindaBlue on Aug 19, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
Shawn Tolleson
Potential Closer/Set-up man?
Possible grade: B- ?
Thanks John
by forloveofthegam3 on Aug 19, 2011 11:41 PM EDT reply actions
Blake Smith
He was having a pretty solid year with the bat before he got hurt, think he cracks the top 20 next year?
Question for Dodgers fans
has sands spent more time at 1b or in the OF? How’s he looked?
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In the Majors, he’s played 37 games in the OF, 5 at 1B. In the Minors, it’s 53 OF, 34 1B. Personally, I think he looks better in the outfield. He has a strong arm (especially for LF) and it’d be wasted at first base.
by FeelinKindaBlue on Aug 20, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
But James Loney would look best on the bench.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Aug 22, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
welll the dodgers are struggling this year.
They are in financial trouble, and this is there farm. its not horrible but its not tht good. robinson is someone i like and he is doing well. to bad he is wearing a mariners jersey.
I like how it seems that none of the top 10 guys took a big step back
Like we saw with Withrow/Martin last year.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 20, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
no one in the top 10
took a step forward either. it is generally worth it to have some top guys take a step back if it comes along with a few top guys taking a step forward.
by auclairkeithbc on Aug 21, 2011 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
No one
Really? De La Rosa didn’t do extremely well before his arm injury in AA and the majors combined this year?
Kenley was nails besides 3 horrible games this year and before his heart problems.
Webster has most definitely made great strides and moved up lists, though he’s hit a wall recently, though it doesn’t erase the first 4 months of the season.
Eovaldi (who wasn’t in the top 10 admittedly) has been very impressive this year as a 21 year old in AA and now the majors.
Some have stayed about the same such as Gordon, Sands, and Lee (though with Lee’s potential I’d have him up higher on this list), but not all of them have.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Wait, we're acting like Rubby doesn't move back down some after TJS?
That’s a pretty big setback for a guy who already had a lot of work to do with his command. It doesn’t make it impossible for him to end up a starting pitcher, but it definitely just made the road tougher.
As for Kenley, why would he move up? Leaving aside the heart thing, he’s still a RP. Even with Kimbrel, in retrospect, John said he deserved a B+. Considering just how much better Kimbrel has been than Jansen, I’m guessing there’s still a pretty good chance that Kenley would be getting a B from John if he was still eligible.
He was very successful at the major league level, boding well for his future.
TJS has such a high success rate that him doing what he did in the majors is a step forward.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 21, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He had problems with control/command at the MLB level
Now he’s facing recovery from TJS where the toughest thing to regain is generally control/command. On top of that he’s going to be missing a year of important development time. The injury also raises questions about his ability to handle a starter’s workload in the majors, as he’s still never handled even 120 IP in a season and he’s already gone down for major surgery.
I’m not writing him off as a prospect or anything. He still has the ceiling of an elite starter and barring another injury should at least be a very good reliever. I just don’t think the past year has done a lot to change his expected outcome once you combine the performance with the injury and the questions it raises.
De La Rosa
Was also pretty highly regarded before the season. If he was a top 10 system player but only a C+ guy, then yeah, he would have moved up even with the injury. But he was a B guy who made some top 100 lists. What is he now? I’m not knocking these guys for not improving their stock overall from last year. On an individual basis, that is fine. But as a group, I think it is better to have some top prospects drop off quite a bit while others take big steps forward. You can’t control these things though.
by auclairkeithbc on Aug 22, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
KLaw
said he would have ranked him in top 20-25 if he was still eligible for his midseason top 50….obviously before injury…
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Aug 22, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Key words there are obviously before the injury
Like I said very clearly he did a lot to move up before the injury, but the added risk due to injury (and the resultant loss in development time and possible loss of command) pretty much cancels that out IMO.
I disagree
I think he performed well for his first time in the majors and that DOES bode well for his future.
So do you feel the same about Strasburg….missing a year of development time? raise questions about his ability to start?
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Aug 22, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It raises questions about his durability sure
However Strasburg can afford to lose some command and still be an elite pitcher. Rubby really can’t afford to get any worse in that area and still hope to be a good starting pitcher.
Rubby
Why a move down?
Rubby was pitching well for his first time in the bigs before the injury.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Aug 22, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, he was pitching well in the bigs which raised his stock
Then it moved back down some after having to undergo TJS. Was that really not clear? Obviously I’m not saying he moved down overall.
Because except for 3 games he's been nails
He’s been a very good prospect and major leaguer. A B would be a fine grade in my mind, and i’d say he’s improving his numbers as the year goes on, which is improvement.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Gould has taken a step up as well
solid year for him….we’;ll see how he handles High A
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