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Or you could title this

“Umpire throws out Bryce Harper for spiking his helmet after disagreeing on a called third strike”

by Kyle_B on Aug 11, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The trouble is too many idiots actually think this is nothing. Probably Nascar or Hockey or WWE fans.

by Mr. E on Aug 16, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or you could title this

“Eric Surkamp makes best prospect ever look silly on a called third strike”

Mr. Flibble is very cross.

by Keenlow on Aug 11, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

It wasn't Surkamp

It was the home plate umpire. Harper overreacted, but it doesn’t mean he was wrong on the call. That pitch was way outside.

by EinNH on Aug 11, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

catcher stuck the pitch

didn’t move much.

Pitcher hits his spot he gets the call most of the time in the low minors. To close to take with 2 strikes. No excuses for Harper please.

by 306008 on Aug 15, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

None of what you just said contradicted anything I just said. And nowhere did I offer an excuse. So…?

by EinNH on Aug 18, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harper's got a pattern going, doesn't he?

Don’t know the kid so I can’t say he isn’t like this all the time. At some point the Nats have to get him reigned in because public perception (right or wrong) is going to label him throughout his career.

And you can’t say it doesn’t matter I’m my own person because that is ignorant.

by 306008 on Aug 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm
Don’t know the kid so I can’t say he isn’t like this all the time

Of course, for the same reason you can’t say he IS like this all the time. He gets pretty good marks from his coaches and teammates, FWIW. Paul O’Neill argued with umps and crunched water coolers for a long time, and ended up with pretty good stats and five WS rings before he retired. Sometimes it’s hard to tell where the line is between “intense competitor” and “jerk” falls (although most fans will cut a player a lot of slack … if he’s playing on the team they root for :-)

by d_c_guy on Aug 18, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And beward of confirmation bias

Once you project a pattern on something (correctly or incorrectly), all data received tends to be analyzed within the confines of that pattern first. For strongly held beliefs, studies have found that the tendancy is so strong that when facts are produced that contradict that pattern/belief, most people will distrust and discount the facts and not the belief.

by d_c_guy on Aug 18, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

confirmation bias is one of the most interesting phenomena out there. Absolutely fascinates me. It makes sense why one of my other fascinations, paradigm shifts, happen so rarely and are such a big deal.

It’s so hard to break the status quo.

“Jerk” and “Intense Competitor” are a fine line, but that temper is going to get him in trouble. I’m not saying that he’s a bad person, as I’ve gotten into a few altercations over sports myself; just saying his image and possibly his game is going to suffer.

Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 18, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although

I will say this, he did react strongly, but left pretty quickly and presumably didn’t make more of a fuss so he handed that bit professionally.

No throwing of balls, bats, bags, beating on water coolers etc.

Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 18, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

nobody's going to give a shit about public perception if he hits like most expect him to.

i didnt see the giants caring too much about bonds…or the indians or sox caring too much about man ram or countless other examples. unless he starts throwing bats at umpires, nobody really cares. and now that i think about it, nobody really cares that delmon young threw a bat at an umpire either.

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Aug 22, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont lump me in with you...

i thoroughly enjoy having some ‘villains’ around. i was hoping that tiger would embrace it…that lebron would embrace it…but they both just stuck with their middle ground….im hoping harper’s not the same

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Sep 5, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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