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MILB 7/4


Here are some starting pitchers to watch today and tonight -

Andy Oliver

David Huff

Yunesky Maya

Kyle Weiland

Noel Arguelles

Zeke Spruill

Austin Hyatt

Chris Balcom Miller

Jureuys Familia

Jeff Locke

Brad Peacock

Julio Rodriguez

Zach Lee

Wade Miley

Ismael Guillon

Jesse Biddle

Robbie Erlin

Christian Friedrich

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Jesse Biddle

Any reports on how his velocity has been recently? I know early in the year it was onl high 80s, which I believe is lower than last summer.

by John Black on Jul 4, 2011 1:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Travis Snider

Former uber-prospect, arguably brought up too soon…sent back to AAA to revamp swing, now 3-3 (with two doubles) in first game back.

Worth noting that this latest round in AAA (226 PAs) resulted in a much lower K rate than in past equivalent samples, along with lower IsoP, and similar walk rates. I think people forget how good this kid looked on his way up…I think he still has enough development left to get the K rates down, and thus still has a very good chance to be a star.

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by siddfynch on Jul 4, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I am still big on this guy

I am not sure that he will be good in CF but Toronto wants to give him a look there.

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 4, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would they do that?

he’s a sub-standard corner OFer. He’s slow and clunky. Scouting reports hate his corner OF defense, advanced metrics (as poor as they are) don’t like his defense in either corner. Fans scouting report doesn’t like it either, not to mention that he is 23 and will only get clunkier and slower. There is very little to suggest that Snider could ever be an average LF, what makes Toronto think he could make it at a position that usually takes one of the most athletic and agile players on the diamond to handle it?

by gore51 on Jul 4, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Travis Snider is not “slow and clunky”. Anyone who’s “scouting report” lists him as such has absolutely never seen him play.

by metafour on Jul 4, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 4, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most certainly NOT is Snider slow and clunky. IDK who wrote that or where you got it from but that’s far from the truth and far being into another galaxy.

by hrv2010 on Jul 4, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surprised me too

But who knows? The guy’s athleticism has been subject of a lot of debate. He’s got running-back type athleticism, whereas CF is usually more associated with a more graceful type. Either they think the can skin the cat a different way, or they are just giving him an extended look there as part of his overall defensive development.

EIther way, I’m guessing it’s not just a random assigment – they have some logic or strong inference behind it, even if they won’t share it outside the organization.

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by siddfynch on Jul 4, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to answer the brigade

by slow and clunky, it’s not that he’s a clogger on the basepaths like the Molinas, but he’s definitely lacks the athletic ability to play center field. By slow/clunky, I mean he is a below average athlete for the corners, and by no way will that translate to anything other than a well-below average centerfielder

by gore51 on Jul 4, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd argue that compared to most LFs

He’s average defensively with the chance of more if he can improve his reading of flyballs. It’s hardly a strong defensive position, and the sneaky speed and good arm let him get away with a lot. And compared to recent Jays LFs (Rivera etc…) he’s a marked step up in quality.

by TtD on Jul 4, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gore

He’s not below-average for the corners either. Whoever wrote that most certainly needs to watch Snider a whole lot more.

by hrv2010 on Jul 4, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think that was the scouting report on Snider through the last few years

and I always kind of just took it for granted, until I actually watched him play a few times. While he is by no means a lithe athlete, he can move very well. He’s not an ideal CF, but there are suggestions that he can at least cover the position in the absence of better alternatives. And I’d have to say his range in the corners is easily average.

by OctaShields on Jul 4, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't watched him extensively

but what I have seen is unimpressive. Advanced fielding metrics don’t like him, UZR has him as -1.3 in 1171 LF innings, and -2.9 in 447 RF innings. Total Zone doesn’t like him either, -5 Runs over those 1171 LF innings and -5 Runs over those 447 RF innings.

What might say the most about him is the Fans Scouting Report (the TangoTiger project). Usually, these overrate a player’s defensive abilities, as the people who watch the player play the most and thus give a scouting report are usually the fans who root for that team and also tend to slightly overrate their players (not that everybody does this, but the average of all the ratings usually is slightly overrating). Snider shows very poorly in this as well. His speed is average to tick above average as you mentioned, but his instincts, first step, and hands are all very poor. While all of these may improve with time, I doubt that they will ever be centerfield caliber (espeically the instincts and first step, both very important aspects of playing CF).

From what I remember from what I’ve seen personally (only a handful of games mind you), he’s a better athlete than his frame would lead you to believe, but he still seemed to have below average speed (average at best), instincts that were below average and poor routes to the ball. He has a chance to be an average LF for a couple years if his instincts and routes improve before his athleticism catches up with his body type, but he will not be able to adequately handle CF. He could probably sit out there for a couple games here and there without causing much damage, but it’s not enough to play there everyday (or even be a suitable backup).

by gore51 on Jul 4, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to throw this out here, regarding UZR / Total Zone, etc.

Since defensive metrics have become unreliable, the best that we can do with them is extrapolate an expected amount of runs allowed to score based on the data given. This is especially true if we have a small sample.

Thus, so far it looks like Snider is anywhere from a 0 to -5 run defensive player. That’s not terrible. It’s just average-ish.

Fangraphs’ “base running” stat and “speed” stat don’t seem to care for him that much, but don’t think he’s a base clogger either. Again, just average-ish with the speed.

Not saying you’re wrong on this. Just saying that the statistical evidence that we do have doesn’t seem to support it.

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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 4, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man

I must be watching totally different games then. He’s by no means great athletically for any of the OF spots but there’s no way in h-e double hockey sticks that Sniders defense should be in the negatives.

by hrv2010 on Jul 4, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

0 to -5 runs is actually a tick below average

which is what I was saying in my last post.

And I said that his speed was average and that he wasn’t a clogger:

it’s not that he’s a clogger on the basepaths like the Molinas, but he’s definitely lacks the athletic ability to play center field

by gore51 on Jul 4, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might add this too

in terms of speed, it’s not that big of a deal offensively. There are quite a few scouts who say that in terms of offensive speed, you’re either a clogger, a burner, or you’re average. Snider would most definitely fit into the last category. It’s more that Snider has poor instincts and first step that hampers him defensively, the pure speed isn’t a huge deal (not saying that it doesn’t help to have good speed, just that it’s not as big a deal as some people make it)

by gore51 on Jul 4, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d think the negative fielding metrics would also have to be chalked up to him not hitting as he might/should have and not playing regularly once he was called up.

Not hitting well could have taken a mental toll on him to some extent which led to him not playing regularly as a young player who gets called up should.

by hrv2010 on Jul 4, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus the minors injuries that he’s had in the majors. Some players deal with that stuff better than others unfortunately Snider might be in the other category.

by hrv2010 on Jul 4, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think all the posts below are skipping the real point

Everyone seems to agree his speed isn’t bad but he has issues with instincts and reading balls off the bat, routes, etc. And one way many teams try to help a player with this is by putting the player in CF to improve those skills. This improves the player and can also add a little roster flexibility by not needing to have a spare no bat backup CF on the roster.

by pedrophile on Jul 4, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why Would Toronto Play Snider In LF?

Maybe it has something to do with his minor league BA?

.325 2006
.313 2007
.344 2008
.337 2009
.296 2010
.333 2011

by Hairylady on Jul 4, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he's trying to say that they'll play a productive bat regardless of the rest of his game.

Some teams don’t care as much for defensive prowess as others. Besides, if he proves to be an unmitigated disaster he can always become a DH.

Snider is an interesting cat. A case where SABR analysis is probably not going to be good enough to figure him out. This is where we have to bow to scouting and coaching data more than our own extrapolations from numbers.

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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 4, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brad Peacock so far 4IP 2H 0ER 2BB 7k

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by Daggerrrrrr on Jul 4, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

6IP 5H 1ER 2BB 9K Win 10W-2L

Can you say minor league pitcher of the year.

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by Daggerrrrrr on Jul 4, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree with this but Peacock has been outstanding

Does anyone think he can be a #2 starter or is he still a backend rotation guy?

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 4, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scouts say he's a #3 according to J.J. Cooper of BA

But that’s cool because he will have Strasburg and Zimmermann in front of him. They’re going to be three pitchers nobody wants to face.

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by Daggerrrrrr on Jul 4, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only bc he will have Stras and Zimm in front,

but bc he only has one above avg pitch, his fastball. Besides his fastball, his other pitches do not grade out as anything other than avg, so he’ll either be a nice bp piece, or along the lines of a #3 minus.

by MrMcAdams on Jul 5, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heard the same thing about Pineda

by fartballs on Jul 5, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Peacock

does NOT have Pineda’s fastball

by brok515 on Jul 5, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last I checked...

Pineda was also ranked extremely high (I think I had him as my #3 arm) by most and his slider was not an average pitch.

by JD Sussman on Jul 5, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

You

 . . . actually had him higher than anybody, and correctly placed I might add. He was #9 on your list, and #11 on mine. When I first got a chance to see him for an entire game, in AAA last season, I could not believe that anybody would take Jeremy Hellickson over him, let alone everybody practically.

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by casejud on Jul 5, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

92-97?

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by Daggerrrrrr on Jul 5, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

John called Peacock’s knuclecurve a plus pitch (http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/7/5/2258501/2011-mlb-all-star-futures-game-roster-review-united-states-team). Peacock isn’t a a “one pitch” pitcher.

by fartballs on Jul 5, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Daggerrrrrr on Jul 5, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can make a solid argument for Teheran, Miller, and others but Peacock has definitely been one of the best pitchers in the minors this year.

by Dfarth on Jul 4, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ventura

6 ip, 4 h, 2 r, 2 bb, 6 k

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by doublestix on Jul 4, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry thought he was done

change it to 6.2 ip and 7 k

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by doublestix on Jul 4, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes it is

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by doublestix on Jul 4, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle Weiland through 5

5 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, 6-1 GO-AO

If he keeps this up, perhaps he’s in Boston soon. He’s lined up with Lackey, whose 7.47 ERA surely is wearing thin in Boston. Lackey was pummeled again today.

by rdf8585 on Jul 4, 2011 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

also in the 2nd year of a 80M deal

not goin anywhere.

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by doublestix on Jul 4, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

im sure they can find

reason to park Lackey on the DL for awhile.

by rdf8585 on Jul 4, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah maybe

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by doublestix on Jul 4, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sunken cost

if he’s going to only be able to keep you in the game in 25% of his starts, it doesn’t matter what he already cost you, there’s no sense in letting him cost you a playoff windfall as well.

But yeah, I agree he might go on the Disgraced List for a spell. Maybe 2 more bad starts.

by OctaShields on Jul 4, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some sunken costs are worse than others

Unfortunately, Lackey is one where they’ve got to keep fiddling with for awhile before giving up all hope.

by RedHopeful on Jul 5, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

picked him up in dynasty league

Hoping he gets to the bigs this year and gets a starting job out of ST

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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 4, 2011 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

with Lackey's elbow being an issue

I could see the Bosox shutting him down for a little while. He’s obviously doing the team and favors by getting lit up every outing. I know he’s a vet, but a mental break could perhaps do him some good, even if the elbow is fine.

by John Black on Jul 4, 2011 10:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Myers might be hurt again

came out after foul ball off foot.

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by doublestix on Jul 4, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

fuuuuuuuuck....

hopefully its just a bruise

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by billybeingbilly on Jul 4, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

LHP Austin Kirk

No-hitter through 7 for Peoria.

by Outshined_One on Jul 4, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Familia

5ip | 4h | 0r | 3bb | 6k | 4-3g/a

by psiogen on Jul 4, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

is it Keith Law that still doesnt think he can be a starter?

I will admit, I have no idea how far the secondary pitches have come along. Is he just relying on the heater?

by John Black on Jul 4, 2011 10:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

saw him pitch last night

slider and curve were working well

by Bravesin07 on Jul 5, 2011 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Law isn't the only one apparently

Callis just said today that Familia is still more a reliever for him. FWIW I know Bravesin07 tabbed him as a probably reliever after getting a look a few starts ago; what were your thoughts after this one?

by blackoutyears on Jul 6, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taillong

3.2-4-2-0-2-5-0

Now 47 K in 49.1 IP…the 2 BB today were uncharacteristic, giving him 6 on the year.

by OctaShields on Jul 4, 2011 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Added a 2B as well.

Same game Chad Jenkins with a nice start:
8 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
9-6 GO/AO

by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jul 4, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

loving the power output

Not unreasonable to think he can be a 15+ homer and 50+ sb bat in his peak.

by John Black on Jul 4, 2011 10:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yup, He's not a slap hitter at all.

Not sure why so many people seem to have this conception of Gose as a raw speedster who can’t play ball. Guy has some pop and was far more advanced than I had expected him to be. Rarely have I seen as much difference between what I had read and heard about a prospect and what I saw. The only guy who had Gose right was Mike Newman (Scouting the Sally). Gose has all kinds of tools. Fantastic CFer. Blazing speed. Great arm. Solid power. Swing is far more advanced than you’d expect.

by alskor on Jul 5, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

happy to see that I'm not the only one high on his bat

He really is developing nicely, especially for a 20 year old in AA. Although the K rate is high, the 11+ % walk rate is very encouraging in my opinion for his ability to be a top of the lineup hitter.

by John Black on Jul 5, 2011 12:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Austin Kirk just did nasty things to Clinton

9 IP 0 H 0 R 2 BB 10 K CAN WE PLEASE GET A CALLUP TO DAYTONA? Kid has dominated low A all year

by Ryno G on Jul 4, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Fantastic outing!

It’d be nice to see this organization get a legitimate LHP prospect. The last one they had was Sean Marshall, who turned out pretty well.

by Outshined_One on Jul 4, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knowing the Cubs

they still won’t promote him. He’s been great all year and went through a few rough starts lately so it was definitely good to see. A no hitter is a no hitter, minors or not.

by Ryno G on Jul 4, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moore is one of the best prospects in the minors, so no

But still, it’s a great accomplishment for Kirk and should solidify his spot in various Cubs top 10 prospect lists.

by Outshined_One on Jul 4, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erlin

6 IP | 5 H | 1 R | 0 ER | 0 BB | 6 K

>mfw

by MonkeyEpoxy on Jul 4, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Another nice start for Jason McEachern in Hudson Valley

6 innings 2 h 0 bb 5 k

now 3-0 in 4 starts 22 2/3 6 h 1 r 3 bb 24 k

by Dbullsfan on Jul 4, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Movin on up

Jedd Gyorko has finally found his way to San Antonio (1-for-3 with an RBI so far) and Darnell is in the Tucson starting lineup. (Kyle Blanks, however, is still in Tucson, presumably until he can get his slugging percentage up above .900)

by realitypolice on Jul 4, 2011 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL re: Blanks

He needs to be up!

by John Black on Jul 4, 2011 10:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Remember, this is a guy who put up an 870 OPS over 170 games in the majors in 2009.
Was he a total wreck mechanically at the plate before the elbow injury last year? Yes!
Should we pretend he wasn’t a strong offensive player in the majors at age 22? No.
I’m fairly certain nobody’s expecting him to hit .411 or slug .884 should he get called up again, but seriously, the dude hit a homer and drew a walk in five plate appearances last night and his OPS dropped. Near as I can tell, the only thing he’s got going against him right now is that he wasn’t drafted and subsequently made the primary piece of a major trade by the current GM.

Incidentally, James Darnell thinks this whole PCL thing is a good idea.
3-for-5 with an RBI double and 2 runs scored in his Triple-A debut.
Gyorko went 2-for-4 with a double of his own in his first go for San Antonio.

by realitypolice on Jul 5, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

To put it another way

I could have just quoted Kevin Goldstein today:

Kyle Blanks, 1B/OF, Padres (Triple-A Tucson)
He just can’t stay here much longer. Anthony Rizzo had many people all but forgetting about Blanks during the first part of the season, but Blanks has, for lack of a better phrase, gone completely nuts at Triple-A. He went 9-for-18 with four home runs over the weekend, is batting .411/.477/.884 in 24 games since arriving in Tucson, and Rizzo is batting .174 in 23 big-leagues games. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what the right move is on an immediate basis, but finding out what to do with both players could prove to be a bit more challenging down the road.

by realitypolice on Jul 5, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

J.D. Martinez

Homered again tonight, 2-3 with a HR and a BB. Power numbers really starting to pick up.

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by OremLK on Jul 4, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

potential?

Shea Hillenbrand? Mike Lowell?

by John Black on Jul 4, 2011 11:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Eh...

WMB is a guy with the tools and ability to be above average in the field and at the plate. Nice well rounded skill set. I’ve been a fan for awhile. He’s still a number of adjustments away though.

by alskor on Jul 5, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

"He’s still a number of adjustments away though."

+1. Not sure who I like more as the future 3B in that system, WMB or Cecchini or Vitek.

by gore51 on Jul 5, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer Cecchini

I think he has the highest upside. Furthest away though.

by John Black on Jul 5, 2011 12:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cecchini for me as well.

Love that swing. He’s off to a slow start, but he had a long layoff. I expect Cecchini to start raking at some point and not stop.

by alskor on Jul 5, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I go with Xander if he continues to make adjustments, best power potential of the bunch.

by MrMcAdams on Jul 5, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take

 the guy that’s putting up good numbers in double-a and is a good defensive 3rd baseman over one thats struggling in High-A(and won’t stay at the position) or the other thats struggling in Short-A.

But ultimately Bogaerts might be the best of the bunch.

by DominicanDandy on Jul 5, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah... its a real concern.

Same issue as last year. He’s not really a hacker, though. I’ve seen him a few times… fairly disciplined, but he has bad stretches and gets fooled. Its really a game of adjustments for Middlebrooks, like I said. Not sure if he will make the jump, but he’s made some big advances before after I thought he had stalled out. The tools are still better than the production, too. Solid chance to end up an average big league 3B and if you watch him it sure seems like there might be more there. We shall see.

by alskor on Jul 5, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's got a good eye at the plate, saw him take a tough 3-2 pitch for a walk

Also has impressive bat speed when I saw him last night, by far the best prospect on the field.

by Bravesin07 on Jul 5, 2011 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jorge Alfaro just hit a HR
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Jorge Alfaro crushes a two-run HR to left field and the Indians seize a 6-4 lead! This place is going bananas! #goindians

by Tex2044 on Jul 4, 2011 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Zach Lee

He was cruising till the 7th w/ only 1h & 1bb allowed, then was pulled after a lead off hr and single (which scored)

6IP 3H 2ER 1BB 3K – still very good

by hybrid on Jul 4, 2011 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Lee, but not by a huge margin.

Webster really doesn’t have FOR kind of stuff or velo. I’m not sure Lee will either, but he has a chance to get a lot better still.

by alskor on Jul 5, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

webster doesnt have front of the rotation stuff?

jw what is ur assessment of FOR kind of stuff or velocity

because he throws 92-95

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLymu6LxqM8

by matthewmafa on Jul 5, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Low 90's from a RHP isn't FOR velo, typically.

The long standing knock on Webster is that he has three pitches that are all pretty good but he lacks a real out pitch. Its not an overly impressive repertoire… more #3 starter. Just not an overpowering arsenal here… but I suppose he’s young enough to make another leap forward. He’s a guy I’ve always liked… made my preseason top 100 and is on my midseason top 100, too (those will be up on the site soon!).

Lee, meanwhile, has the projection and power arsenal to end up quite a bit better… but its by no means certain.

by alskor on Jul 5, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice to see a good outing like that

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by Ivdown on Jul 5, 2011 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always imagine him whistling

and dangling his feet off a dock…just waiting for the call.

by OctaShields on Jul 5, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meso is going to have a very succesful MLB career

I feel like he’s always underrated

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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 5, 2011 2:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You don’t have to hold your breath, he’s legit as they come.

by MrMcAdams on Jul 5, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He might make the team better offensively, defensively not so sure. Too much hype on here for him, 26 year old in AAA, power nothing special, just older. Throw Janish in AAA now days, see how he performs, not much difference.

by MrMcAdams on Jul 5, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beastmode

This kid is top 35 material BIG TIME!!!!

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 5, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you prefer Arenado

or Olt in a fantasy league?

Both have great offensive situations, which do you think will have the best pro numbers?

by OctaShields on Jul 5, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he's a top talent

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 5, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big fan

People seemed to be all over the place on this kid (and he is a kid) & his eventual ceiling but he has adjusted twice now as an ulta young regular in two consecutive campaigns in two separate full season formats. The power spike is encouraging and I think the future is rosy here.

by Matt0330 on Jul 5, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get used to it

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by miketrout on Jul 5, 2011 1:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Get used to it

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by miketrout on Jul 5, 2011 1:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Who do you think the Angels #2 prospect is?

Cron, Cowart, Segura or Richards?

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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 5, 2011 2:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Richards-Cowart-Cron-Segura

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by miketrout on Jul 5, 2011 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think its Segura although I’m getting a little impatient waiting for him to get healthy and back on the field to prove himself. Any one have any idea when he is expected back?

by Puffnik on Jul 5, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jorge Bonifacio

3-4, triple

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by doublestix on Jul 5, 2011 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Oswaldo Arcia 4-5 , 2B , SO

he now batting even .300 in FSL

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 5, 2011 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

And he was playing RF

Nice to see him in the field (the first time I’ve noticed) since his arm injury. He and Aaron Hicks batting back-to-back and patroling the outfield together is fun to think of and keep track of.

by Kyleb_82 on Jul 5, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Michael Choice

with his 20th Hr of the season. More importantly, he’s starting to slowly put the brakes on his astronomical K rate.

by RedHopeful on Jul 5, 2011 2:04 AM EDT reply actions  

It is the CAL league though.....

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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 5, 2011 2:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yep

it’s why I said cutting down on the K’s is the most important pattern to watch here.

by RedHopeful on Jul 5, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mason Williams

3-5 with a steal

season line: 348/392/530 in 16 games

by gogotabata on Jul 5, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Shawn Tolleson (now in AA)

0 r, 1 k in .2 innings

For season, across three levels: 41.2 IP | 23 hits | 2 HR | 12 BB | 67 Ks | 0.65 ERA

by gogotabata on Jul 5, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Brad Brach called up to AAA

His season AA line:

44 IP | 32 hits | 3 HR | 5 BBs | 64 Ks | 2.25 ERA

by gogotabata on Jul 5, 2011 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Nestor Molina

5 IP | 5 hits | 2 ER | 0 BBs | 6 Ks

87 K to 8 BB ratio in 79 innings

by gogotabata on Jul 5, 2011 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this guy for real?

Even recent scouting reports indicate that NM is either back-of-the-rotation material, or more likely a bullpen piece…I just don’t see it…he’s not an ace, but is a #3 that far off?

by dbreer23 on Jul 5, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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