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Prospects in the Doug Fister Trade

Prospects in the Doug Fister Trade

The Seattle Mariners traded pitchers Doug Fister and David Pauley to the Detroit Tigers on Saturday, July 30th, in exchange for a trio of prospects: pitcher Charlie Furbush, outfielder Casper Wells, and third baseman Francisco Martinez. A fourth rumored prospect has yet to be named. Let's take a look at the three known players the Mariners are receiving.

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Charlie Furbush, LHP: A 25-year-old southpaw, Furbush was drafted by the Tigers in the fourth round in 2007 out of Louisiana State University. He missed all of 2008 recovering from Tommy John surgery, but has been healthy and reasonably effective ever since. He's split 2011 between Triple-A Toledo (3.17 ERA, 61/16 K/BB in 54 innings, 35 hits) and the Tigers, posting a 3.62 ERA with a 26/14 K/BB in 32 major league innings, allowing 36 hits. He's started two games but relieved in 15. Furbush works in the upper-80s when used as a starter, but has been in the low-90s in the bullpen, mixing in a slider/cutter, curveball, and changeup. He's not overpowering but has a good feel for pitching, giving him a chance to be an inning-eating starter or a solid reliever. I had him as a Grade C pre-season, but would raise that to C+ now.

Casper Wells, OF: Wells was drafted by the Tigers in the 14th round in 2005 out of Towson University. A 26-year-old right-handed hitter, he has an erratic minor league track record, playing very well at times but also struggling with injuries and inconsistency. Scouts have never liked him much, but the results have been there so far: he hit .323/.364/.538 in 93 at-bats for the Tigers last year, and .257/.323/.451 in 113 at-bats this year, giving him a major league career line of .286/.341/.490 in his first 224 plate appearances. He also has a strong throwing arm and is a fine defensive outfielder despite average tools. Wells has exceeded expectations, and while his upside is limited due to his age, I like him. Grade C+.

Francisco Martinez, 3B: A 20-year-old Venezuelan third baseman, Martinez was hitting .282/.319/.405 with 19 walks and 80 strikeouts in 348 at-bats for Double-A Erie. He's toolsy and has a strong arm and good range at third base, but is also mistake-prone and has committed 30 errors already. Scouts like his offensive potential and project that he should hit for average with solid power, but his strike zone judgment is mediocre at best and his production has never matched his reputation. On the other hand, he's been quite young for his leagues, and while he needs a lot more polish, it is too soon to conclude that he won't hit, given his age. I rated him a C+ pre-season and that still seems fair.

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Wow so three C+ guys

That’s not exciting.

Hopefully the PTBNL is at least a B.

by dnc on Jul 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm a Mariners/Tigers fan

and I think the Mariners will be happy with what they got, especially if the PTBNL is Drew Smyly as it’s been rumored to be pretty much everywhere.

by 200tang on Jul 30, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Fister warrants a solid B prospect in return, along with three other players...

Furbush is likely the best of the group (though if Smyly IS included, he might be the eventual top dog).

by dbreer23 on Jul 30, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Furbush is probably the best RIGHT NOW

but the prospect you’d most want to have has to be Fmart.

by 200tang on Jul 30, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The idea that Fister isn't a very good pitcher because he doesn't strike batters out and pitches in Safeco isn't really fair.

He’s got the 28th best FIP in baseball since the start of 2010. He’s not even arbitration eligible until 2013. He’s got plenty of value to warrant a B prospect.

follow @casetines

by Kenneth Arthur on Jul 30, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

FIP gives him the benefit of Safeco

I think Fister is a solid pitcher, but FIP is probably not the best stat to cite, since it deals with home runs, and Fister’s home run totals have been greatly helped by Safeco (and probably a little luck). He had a 6.4% HR/FB rate last year and has a 4.4% one so far this year. League average is right around 10%.

by Ben Hall on Jul 30, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

His xFIP, which normalizes homerun rate, still says he's pretty damned good.

3.90 xFIP is nothing to sneeze at. tERA (3.46) and SIERA (3.93; Fangraphs thing) both agree.

Let’s also not forget that he’s going to Comerica, which isn’t exactly a home run hitting paradise either.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Furbush

Stands to benefit from being a lefthander in Safeco. Much like the M’s drafting Hultzen, there’s an expectation that his value is greater for the Mariners than the Tigers. Fairly optimistic about the PBTNL being in the upper right quadrant of the risk reward chart.

by goyo70 on Jul 30, 2011 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

ptbnl

With Dombrowski saying the ptbnl will be announced no later than august 20, Ruffin and Smyly iirc were signed by august 16 last year.
John, how do you like this trade from a Tigers fans view?

by KalineCountry on Jul 30, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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