Rasmus on the move?
by dbreer23 on Jul 27, 2011 12:53 PM EDT
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PrintThe rumor mill is whirring...with Edwin Jackson now 'headed to' Toronto, speculation is that he will be flipped in a package deal to send Rasmus to the Jays.
Joe Strauss (St. Louis Post-Dispatch) is reporting that EJax, Rzepczynski, and Dotel will be flipped to the Cardinals for Rasmus - the deal is "imminent." I realize that the Cards are closer to the playoff hunt than Toronto (solely due to divisional stength, or lack thereof) and could really use the pitching help, but if I'm St.Louis, I'd want to get at least one high-end prospect in return for my 24-year old CF who is still under control thru 2014. Do you agree? If so, if you are the Cardinals, which prospect do you have to get back to deal Rasmus?
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Anthopolous is my favorite GM right now
I like Zach Stewart, but this is still a steal.
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I suppose that would be the net gain/loss, wouldn't it...
Stewart & Frasor (both sent to CHI for Edwin Jackson) + Dotel & Rzep for Colby Rasmus…highway robbery…
Yep
I don’t think he’s made a trade that I’ve disliked yet. He got a huge return for Halladay and then stole Anthony Gose for Brett Wallace.
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Agreed
Don’t forget about Lawrie for Marcum straight up.
Yes and he stole Escobar from the Braves
That one still hurts.
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That one was ridiculous.
If I were AA, I would’ve had difficulty keeping it together on the phone.
That was more of a fair value trade IMO
Good of him to target Lawrie, but Marcum was a very, very valuable piece. Not quite up there with Gose for Wallace or Gonzalez and Pastornicky for Yunel.
Agreed
The deal made all kinds of sense for the Jays though.
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That Escobar trade stands out for me
I’m a big fan of Alex Gonzalez as a glove, but that stings. If I’m a Card fan I’m down at the firing range emptying a clip into a TLR headshot right now.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I am a Jays fan but it is hard to argue that the Brewers got ripped off. Lawrie could be great but Marcum is a damn good pitcher. Pretty fair deal.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 28, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
It was fine
The Jays have Molina and Arencibia. Why would the Jays want to roadblock their young catcher for a more expensive, similar skill set veteran? That is the kind of thing your Angels do, not Toronto.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 28, 2011 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with miketrout
I understand he was at a position of depth for Toronto, but they should have been able to at least get one more young player for him (a C+/B- type).
by cookiedabookie on Jul 28, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Had Francisco stayed healthy and productive
The Jays might have been able to flip him for a much bigger package than they were ever going to get for Napoli. I assume this is what AA was attempting to do: build closer value for a guy and have potentially the best pen arm available at the deadline.
I see the idea but disagree with it… and if that’s what they were trying to do I’m not sure it was a good idea at all. Napoli is a .405 wOBA hitter who can at least catch half the time. He’s under team control for 2012. Francisco is a free agent at the end of the season. I’d be willing to pay more for Mike Napoli.
I don't disagree
I’m just trying to think like AA, and that seems like the kind of thing he would do.
it was a dump
they took Napoli back when they disposed of Wells’ body and moved Napoli since they didn’t want to block their catchers. They also tried to move Rivera but couldn’t and eventually DFA’d him I believe.
They did...
but teams shouldn’t worry about “blocking” their catchers with a better catcher. He could have DH’d a lot too instead of Rivera or Encarnacion. They probably cost themselves 2 wins this year because of that. I still think Arencibia is better suited as a backup too. Yeah, he can hit 20+ HRs as a catcher if you give him 500 PAs. Big whoop. That’s all he brings offensively and I don’t much care for his receiving skills.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 27, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He is the best in the game
He has done an unreal job over the last two years. He stole Morrow, Rasmus, Escobar, and inked Bautista to a killer contract.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 27, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Why wouldn't STL insist on a player like D'Arnaud or Perez in return?
Hell, even Eric Thames would be a nice piece to add, instead of Dotel.
Hot off of the press...
From Rotowire:
According to Buster Olney of ESPN.com, the Cardinals will send Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet, and P.J. Walters to the Blue Jays for Edwin Jackson, Octavio Dotel, Marc Rzepczynski and Corey Patterson.
what a steal
The cards must really not like colby
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 27, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The cards must really not like colby
The animus between Rasmus and TLR is pretty well documented by this point, and Jon Jay’s recent starts over Rasmus in CF pretty much signaled that a trade was in the offing.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
AA is a Ninja...
An absolute, Jedi Master Ninja…Holy Cow!
aa is fantastic
of all the trades mentioned above, i think the best he made was aactually when he unloaded vernon wells’ contract. that was quite possibly the biggest head scratcher ive ever seen. were the angels high or something? then AA turned around and flipped napoli to us, who has been fantastic. and you know napoli has to love it. thats as close to a fuck you to mike scoscia as hell ever get. im glad to see him getting the jays on the right track. wouldnt surpsie me at all if withing a couple of years the jays are where the yankees are now, and the yankees are where the jays are. but toronto needs a realignment in the worst way right now
by rangersfan24 on Jul 27, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont get this deal for the CHI SOX
Maybe they will put Stewart in the pen?
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 27, 2011 1:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Have asked this myself
There must have been a great deal of eagerness to unload Mark Teahen’s silly contract but they must have at least explored the opportunity to go after Colby Rasmus using Edwin Jackson as bait, right? Who knows what’s actual this time of year but supposedly the White Sox have been high on Zach Stewart for some time so maybe that superseded all.
After taking Alexis Rios off of Toronto’s books & now helping to enable a deal for Colby Rasmus, I hope the Rogers Corp. at least had the good sense to send Kenny Williams et al a fruti basket.
That would be dumb
He’d succeed there, but you don’t trade for him in order to use him as a reliever. He has the stuff to be a mid rotation guy.
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Toronto gave them huge salary relief
they took on Teahen and his 7mil plus moved them a decent prospect and a solid reliever
Wow
Stole Escobar. Stole Rasmus. Stole Morrow.
He’s like the guy in my fantasy league continuously offers crappy trade offers until someone finally bites. it’s infuriating for the other owners, but hey, as long someone keeps biting on the offers, more power to him.
by Galt on Jul 27, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ummm
Stole Escobar.
no. just stop.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 27, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't like continuing to hear about it?
He got a guy who has turned into one of the top 5-7 SS in the league for Alex Gonzalez and two middling prospects.
Stop?
Because you don’t think he got a great trade in Escobar?
At the time of the trade, Escobar was a 28 year old elite defensive SS with a career .290 BA and .360 OBP. He was under team control for a few years, and the Jays used that leverage to sign him cheaply for $5MM through 2015
He was having a poor season, and was an attitude problem. Basically the exact same profile as Rasmus.
They traded the older Alex Gonzalez, who was going to be a free agent after the season, and in spite of his high HR total, actually had lower WAR than Escobar.
It was a brilliant trade by AA.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 27, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So am I, well quasi-fan but it was still terrible
Even at the time, absolutely awful.
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I am not saying it wasn't terrible
I in fact stated that the Jays stole Escobar. I am just explaining that Apoxonbothyourhouses likely state for Galt to “stop” because he hates that trade for his team. If that isn’t the case then Apoxonbothyourhouses, is most likely an idiot.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 27, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well then
I guess I stand by my 2nd assertion. ;)
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 27, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad guys...
I am honestly shocked that somebody would not admit that the Jays stole Escobar (especially since they now have him for 4 years at $20M). Trading a cost controlled young shortstop for an aging impending FA shortstop was unbelievably dumb for the Braves.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 27, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of Braves fans talk themselves in Pastornicky
As a sure fire starter at SS, which I just don’t see at all. Its just the sort of thing where a lot of people were so happy to get rid of the petulant Hispanic player the was tearing the team apart and Bobby Cox hated that hey did everything they could to rationalize. Even now that Chipper has come out and said he wanted Escobar to stay (and he was supposedly the guy on the team who hated him the most), they try and rationalize it as he was killing team chemistry. Basically, Braves fans don’t like flashy players that don’t always keep their mouths shut (except may Jeff Francoeur).
I'm sure there are some people
who swear that No, No, Nanette had to be produced at all costs (and yes, I’m aware that it was really My Lady Friends).
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually like this move for the Cards
Given that they had already sailed the ship on Rasmus and the level of play they’re getting out of Jon Jay, getting back Edwin Jackson for a playoff run is a move that really upgrades their team. This could be even more amplified if Duncan can work his magic with Jackson. Moving McClellan, Dotel and Rzepczynski into the bullpen really helps to solidify that portion of the club as well.
Jackson is also a Type B FA at the end of the year, so the Cards have first dibs at resigning him or they could potentially replace him with a solid prospect.
I really like that the Cardinals went and got Rzepczynski. I still think he has the upside of a #3 starter, and having a sinker-ball specialist as a pitching coach is probably the best way for him to reach that potential.
The real key here is that while they might be selling low on Rasmus, it doesn’t seem like the Cards were ever going to get him to where they could sell high on him, and they wanted him out the door anyway. Seriously improving your team for a stretch run and getting a guy you might be able to make the most out of for the price of a guy you didn’t want on your team anymore isn’t a bad move, if you ask me.
I don't understand how the Cardinals don't at least get some other kind of cost controlled asset
If Rzepczynski can actually start this might work out ok, but the Cardinals have plenty of cheap starters on the way and its most likely that Zep’s control and arm action keeps him in the pen. The Cardinals should at least be getting some other kind of asset, whether its a middling positon player prospect or something else to help recoup some of loss in value by missing Rasmus’ next few cost controlled years.
The trade should actually make a BIG impact for this season, although reliever performance is so volatile that you can’t really know for sure. Its still a ridiculous trade. Doing this in a year you are already missing Wainwright seems crazy, but on the other hand its possible this is the last year they have Pujols. Of course, if Pujols leaves next year, you miss Rasmus even more.
This could be even more amplified if Duncan can work his magic with Jackson
I’m not sure Duncan’s magic is any more potent than that already worked by Don Cooper.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And I think any disappontment here
has to be less about the return on Rasmus and more about the fact that a trade ended up being the best option. As a Reds I’m glad to see him go. He (and effing Molina) always seem to get big hits against us.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Everyone will regret writing off the Cards in this trade when Rzepczynski is a CY Young candidate next year under Duncan.
But for now, I agree, the Jays got the best of this deal.
by cookiedabookie on Jul 27, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i've been wanting the royals to try and get Rzep for 2 years now
he’s got 2 upside if the walks come down just a little. don’t think this trade is as one sided as everyone is making it out to be.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 27, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I do think he has a chance to be a solid #3 type in the NL though. Nice sinking fastball/slider combo.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jul 27, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That is definitely possible
Though not really sure why you move Rasmus for what they got.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 27, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
For sure.
I love the deal from a Jays perspective. Scrabble should be a nice piece for them though.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jul 27, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not sure the walks will ever actually get under control either.
I see him as a back end starter (because of sub par command and control) or a tough lefty pen arm. Will be watching closely to see if they can actually fix him though… this is great fit so its possible.
Yep
I can’t get on board with anything more than that.
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Cardinals also get three players to be named later or cash considerations.
Whatever that means. Cash considerations instead of players seem to indicate that these players to be named are not anything special, but if they can get some kind of prospects out of this maybe it will salvage the futures part of the deal somewhat.
I also read a rumor that the Cardinals might also be getting Thornton or Ohman from the White Sox as part of the deal, too, but I don’t know if there’s any truth to that.
Colbys dad
Ive been following this whole thing for a while now, but one thing I haven figured out… IS Rasmus’ dad some sort of hitting coach or something? I dont understand why Colby is so insistent on only listening to his father for hitting coaching.
Probably because his father knows his swing better than anyone else
I don’t know about other teams, but the Braves have no problem with Chipper and McCann listening to the advice of their dads while largely ignoring what the Braves hitting coach tells them. Seems to have worked out pretty will in those two cases.
Rasmus' dad is a high school coach
In fact he’s a very successful high school coach, I believe his team is some kind of dynasty.
Tony Rasmus recently denied on the radio that he has any regular input in a hitting coach type role with Colby, though. La Russa said yesterday that the reason Colby stays in slumps so long is that he never listens to coaches inside the organization but he’s listening to people outside of it.
Joe Strauss of the STL Post Dispatch wrote this about the trade today:
“Rasmus has declined to speak to media since the club returned from its nine-game road trip Sunday but, according to a family member, was “extremely” pleased by the move."
Basically it looks like TLR’s feuding forced Mozeliak’s hand. When your manager makes statements as publicly damning as the ones he did it is probably much harder to get a great return, too. Mozeliak was really backed into a corner with this whole situation.
All right, so... wtf?
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How is that not better than the current deal? Jackson is maybe a bit better than Niemann, but with the other stuff in there… Bleh.
Supposedly the Cardinals are happy with the current deal because they expect to get 1-3 draft picks from Dotel and Jackson in compensation and the 3 PTBNL might be assets. I guess we’ll have to wait and see, but that Rays option seems to make more sense right now.
Not a huge fan of any of the three
I’d rather have two months of Jackson + compensation. At least you can slot Jackson into the top of the rotation comfortably.
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This Trade is God Awful
It improves the pitching staff for 1/2 a season. Yeah let’s go all in against the Phillies, Giants and Braves pitching staffs. Cole Hamels, Madison Bumgarner and Tommy Hanson are no match for Edwin Jackson in game 3 of the Division Series.
Next year, we will likely lose Edwin Jackson. I doubt we can sign him for a Kyle Lohse like 4 year, 40 mil contract that he is due if he posts a sub 4 ERA over 200 innings. Especially when we are giving Pujols 25 million a year.
We will also lose Corey Patterson although that is a major plus. I can’t believe we took this guy in the trade.
So for 2012 we will have Rzepcynski and Dotel for Rasmus if we pick up Dotel’s option.
In 2013 it will be Rzepcynski for Rasmus.
Very shrewd move, John Mozeliak. Haha. F the future.
by UncleBuck44 on Jul 27, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
?
It looks like they get compensation for Jackson, and possibly Dotel. Plus they clear what,6-8mil in what Rasmus will get in arb to use for Pujols?
Meh
2, maybe(MAYBE) 3 draft picks that are 4+ years away and that may never actually see AA let alone the majors isn’t all that great for a guy that posted an .859 OPS at age 23 last year.
Rasmus would have probably gotten around 4 million in arbitration this year. It’s the first time he is eligible and he isn’t doing very well. Generally you try to hang on to middle of the order caliber hitters that make less than 5 million.
With that said, Rasmus did have to go at some point. He had big problems with LaRussa. We just didn’t get very much for him.
There’s also the 3 PTBNL, no telling what the Cards will get there. Probably not much, but you never know.
I tend to agree though, the trade is bad even with the futures taken into consideration.
In fact Colin Wyers tweeted that it decreases the Cardinals’ playoff chances based off the BPro projections.
Plus they clear what,6-8mil in what Rasmus will get in arb to use for Pujols?
They get to “clear” spending 6-8 mil on a 4+ win CF? Wow!
trying to be positive
I just dont think Card’s management did as badly as some thin, considering the situation
Considering what,
that their hand was forced by their self-centered diva of a manager?
by blackoutyears on Jul 28, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
New CBA.
It looks like they get compensation for Jackson, and possibly Dotel.
No guarantee that the compensation pick system will even exist this time next year. It certainly won’t exist in the same capacity that it does now. It’s one thing that virtually all sides agree sucks and needs to change.
Beyond that...
…the backward engineered Elias Rankings currently have Edwin Jackson as the very lowest type B. He may not even qualify for compensation
the very lowest type B
Had to laugh at one writeup that stated that Jackson was “in the middle of a career year”. Looks pretty much like the last two to me. More like he’s having “a year in the middle of his career”.
by blackoutyears on Jul 28, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly - Mo is playing for just this year...
Because he realizes that there is a decent chance that Pujols walks after 2011.
Really Awful Move Then
So after this year Pujols walks and Berkman ages another year.
Mozeliak decides to trade a 24 year old OFer that was hitting .313 with a .872 OPS on May 13th just in case that happens.
That makes all the sense in the world. We won’t need offense in the future.
by UncleBuck44 on Jul 28, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
ejax will get far more than 4/40
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 28, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
John Mozeliak
Anybody that ever doubted that this guy was actually anything more than a front man and not an actual agent within the organization with real power were pretty much rebuffed today.
TLR makes the moves in St. Louis.
And why would he give a shit about how terrible the Cardinals offense will be in a year or so? He probably won’t be around to have to clean up this mess he’s creating.
Albert Pujols is a god, and you my friend should be doing no less than groveling at his feet.
Even if Mo isn't a pushover TLR manipulated the media to do his will
Rasmus was in talks to re-sign with the Cardinals for a longer-term deal about a month ago but then LaRussa came out with some negative public statements against Rasmus, and ever since then TLR’s venom has increased to the point where Mozeliak had little choice to move Rasmus, and for little return.
Not that I’m defending Mozeliak really, the job he’s done has been very questionable. Most of his trades have not turned out well, but the farm system has boomed since he took over. Whether that’s because of him or something else is certainly a question.
Hard to imagine
Jocketty tolerating TLR’s brinksmanship.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
I would have canned TLR days ago (if not before). His intentional benching of Rasmus in order to force a deal is a chain of command thing that can’t be tolerated. Immediate dismissal.
TLR had plenty of influence in the Jocketty years too though
The biggest dispute between TLR and Duncan in their long history together was over Dan Haren. TLR wanted to make the trade for Mulder but Duncan was adamant that Haren be part of the Cardinal’s future. Guess who Jocketty sided with?
Granted that isn’t the same thing, but the Cardinals have been dealing with LaRussa’s antics for years and with players other than Rasmus. Admittedly, this episode is probably the most extreme.
I don't think that TLR is totally to blame
TLR isn’t the best guy, but Rasmus has some maturity issues and I say this as a Jays fan.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 28, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus does have issues,
but it’s the manager’s job to be the adult in the equation. It’s like excusing a teacher’s immaturity because of the student’s.
by blackoutyears on Jul 28, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure the Blue Jays made out like such bandits here.
Rasmus is incredibly talented, sure, but he’s basically all they’re getting out of this. Dotel, Frasor, and Patterson don’t matter much to the Jays this year since they’re out of it, but Rzepczynski and Stewart were both useful and cheap pieces that they gave away. Even if you’re not sold on Rzepczynski, he’s still a useful lefty bullpen arm and not even a free agent until 2016. Stewart wouldn’t be until 2017.
In the meantime, they add money to their payroll by taking on the virtually worthless utility man in Teahan and get back some garbage from the Cardinals. Even P.J. Walters isn’t that interesting. Even if we assume the three PTBNL (or cash) aren’t interesting, the Jays are still giving up an awful lot to get back what amounts to one guy starting on his arbitration years.
Right now, I see this as a generally fair deal for all parties involved. The White Sox shed some payroll, get a bullpen arm to help them out this year, and a useful 4th-5th starter on the cheap for a few years. The Cardinals get their bullpen arm pieces they need for the playoff run, get to keep Rzepczynski for a few more years after, get Jackson for the same playoff run, and get some potential compensation picks once Jackson and Dotel walk at the end of the year. The Jays get Rasmus, a dead weight, and garbage that will be cast off at the end of this season.
Just how I see it. Seems like everybody got what they wanted and nobody came out huge.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 27, 2011 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
White Sox came out very well in that deal
moved 7 unmovable million and a quality arm that wasn’t needed for a solid reliever, solid prospect.
St.Louis also dumped some salary, moved a guy Tony forced them to move, and got relievers, a #3 pitcher, and some youth.
While Toronto took on money it’s definitely a huge win for them. They now have Rasmus at CF, Escobar at SS, Lawrie at 3B, Bautista at RF, Gose possibly moving Rasmus to LF. They have made a ton of huge deals.
I think you summed it up
The GMs for the Sox and Cards did well with the hands they are dealt. But where is Snider in your scenario? I still think hes got a future there, hes only 23
For the Jays near future needs, sure, they're setting up nicely.
Don’t know what they’re going to do about a bullpen in 2012 tho. That’s 3 guys, all of which they could have had for next year too, gone.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 28, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Bullpens aren't too hard to fix
The Jays brought in Dotel, Rauch, Villanueva and Francisco this off season. Good teams should have enough depth in their minors to either stock their bullpen, or at least the proper management to get affordable arms.
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 28, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I would add...
if you’re not in playoff contention you should always be willing to sell whatever bullpen pieces are currently doing well.
Two big reasons:
1) Its difficult if not impossible to project relievers over multiple seasons. The vast majority of them perform quite differently from one year to the next. So you don’t even know what you’ll be getting from these guys when you’re ready to contend.
2) Teams are always willing to overpay for relief help come the trade deadline.
Considering the above, it is wise to cash in on which ever relievers are throwing well currently if you’re not in a playoff run. Add to your talent pool and then see how the pen shakes out when you’re ready to contend. A pen is the very last thing a front office should worry about assembling. Everything else should be in place first.
There are of course exceptions… if you’re the Jays and you had Jordan Walden I wouldn’t give him up that easily. Any 1-3 year (pre-arb) guys with good stuff & options left I’d be reluctant to give up cheaply.
I agree with every single thing you state here
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by King Billy Royal on Jul 28, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Cardinals took on quite a bit of salary
Depending on the “cash considerations” they may possibly receive back instead of PTBNL.
Jackson makes about twice as much as all the players the Cardinals gave up combined, and that’s ignoring Dotel’s $3.5 million. They do save some on Rasmus the next few seasons, but “saving” whatever Rasmus will get in arbitration for a CF of his caliber isn’t exactly a plus.
Yes
And Edwin Jackson makes more money than all those relievers combined. Heck, Dotel makes about as much as all the guys Blue Jays got combined.
None of the players given to the Blue Jays were signed long term. Walters and Rasmus were obviously still under team control, but Walters at the minimum and
Miller – $2 million
Tallet – $750,000
Rasmus – ~$500,000
Walters – whatever the minimum is
Dotel – $3.5 million
Jackson – $8.5 million
The Cardinals took on quite a bit of salary for this season.
The cash the Cardinals may receive instead of the 3 PTBNL may offset some of that, but it definitely wasn’t a cheap move for the Cardinals.
Well, remember, the Cardinals are also not paying the full salaries for Dotel / Jackson.
Only what’s left of this season. Since we’re at ~105 games on the season, or 65% of the season, they’re only paying the remaining 35% of the contract.
Now, your notes still apply, since 35% of each would be:
Miller – 700k
Tallet – 262,500
Rasmus – 175,000
Walters – ~157,500
Dotel – 1,225,000
Jackson – 2,975,000
Or so. The Cards are still paying more, but the amounts are easily manageable. The difference that St. Louis added was around 3 million.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 28, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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