MiLB 7/26
by hybrid on Jul 26, 2011 5:06 PM EDT
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Taillon 4IP 4H 2ER 0BB 7K
G. Sanchez 1-3, HR (off Taillon), BB
Profar 1-3, BB, SB - but 2 CS
Probables Include:
AAA
Matusz
Teheran
Hendriks
Montgomery
AA
Erlin
Kelly
Friedrich
Dwyer
Skaggs
Delgado
Paxton
A ball
Ranaudo
Arguelles
Matzek
Biddle
Perez
Probably missed some, and didn't check SS & R ball. No Cal or MidWest league games today, which leaves me a bit sad since I won't be able to post about Taveras's nightly multi-hit game.
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I friggin love this guy
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 8:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is loveable
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5IP, 2H, 1R, 3BB,6K
so far.
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Done
6IP 2H 1R 3BB 6K 7-3 GO-FO
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3 Walks is 4 walks too many.
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by Marinerfanjake on Jul 26, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly....
I guess
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Gotta expect some struggles
he’s got a ton of potential, but assigning him to Greenville was extremely aggressive and he’s held his own no doubt.
Love him as a prospect.
At his age, for that league,
I’ll gladly take advanced power and a solid walk rate. Even the strikeouts aren’t horrendous at 26.8%. Most guys his age are posting rates well north of 30% in rookie ball.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I see pretty good bat speed when I watch the video. Is the swing and miss a product of the bat speed or is it just a product of him trying to hit every damn thing out of the park?
I don’t find the Adam Dunn comp to be too bad here. High strikeout rate, but lots of homers and walks too, sounds about right.
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How many times did he swing and miss at a FB though?
Even if he’s trying to hit everyone out, we’re talking about a pitch that MLB hitters have a swinging strike rate of ~6% (I think its right around there) on. He looked to be swinging and missing on every single one. Maybe he turns in to Dunn, but I could also see him having the same sort of issues as Chris Carter as he gets to AAA and the Majors.
Ill take the HR off Delgado
Also there was a big discussion over Goldy on the Bullpen Banter Top 100 comments page
by gobruins12345 on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish there were a way to find out what pitch he hit out off Delgado
If it was a fastball then yeah its pretty impressive. If it was an off-speed pitch that got left up (and considering Delgado’s overall performance I don’t think he was throwing many good offspeed pitches) then it really doesn’t mean a whole lot as we already know he can crush mistakes.
I definitely didn’t see the same thing as Orem though when I watched that video. Looked like a guy that had no chance against any sort of good fastball.
it was a Fastball
Delgado didn’t have his command and missed up with a fastball that Goldy demolished.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 27, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions
with that said
I am slightly concerned about the bast speed.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 27, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions
With Delgado
When I scouted him, he was 89-91 and only pulled a 94 MPH 4-seam out of his back pocket 3-5 times the entire game. I don’t really consider Delgado to throw with more than average velocity the vast majority of the time.
by ScoutingTheSally on Jul 28, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure I buy it
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13126493
This clip is from spring training, and it was aan 89 mph fastball, but he didnt have any trouble turning it around.
Lots of people muight have trouble getting around on an elevated, 95 -97 heater like Eovaldi throws.
Not saying you are completely wrong about his bat speed but guys have strengths and weaknesses and what he lacks ibn pure bat speed, he makes up for in selectiveness and being short to the ball (relatively speaking for a slugger) and extremely strong.
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That video does little to nothing to answer bat-speed questions
89 MPH is a below average fastball velocity, not to mention that it is on the middle-away part of the plate, which is an area that velocity is slower than an area on the inner half or up in the zone. The trouble that Goldschmidt might have is on inner half plus-velocity fastballs (93+ MPH). He’s definitely big and strong, so being able to muscle up and smack a pitch on the middle-away part of the plate is something that he should (and will need to) be able to do if he is going to be anything worth talking about as a major leaguer.
Sure
Then again, he didn’t have any trouble hitting it either and, didn’t appear late to the ball at all. Most everybody has trouble with inner -half, plus -velocity fastballs, especially high ones.
You know what is REALLY interesting, to me anyways? I hadn’t lookes lately and i assumed Goldschmidt had an extremely high K rate this season. This wouldn’t even bother me, as of course, lots of great run producers strike out a lot.
Goldschmidt doesn’t though – 20% of his plate appearances. That is low for a slugger of his magnitude and, exceptional progress over his perfromance last year.
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Look at the trends
they aren’t as friendly as you may hope, although it isn’t as bad as it had been in past years
Yep
as was pointed out earlier he’s still dining out on April and May with June and July showing a sharp regression. Not unexpected, and as was also pointed out, the walk rate seems real, which somewhat reassures me that he may be able to offset any contact issues he encounters with some on-base ability.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really
His June was as good as his May. All he has really done is had an otherwordly April, caufght flack for not repeating it, which isn’t really all that possible to do. I seehim making adjustments just fine.
1.062 OPS the past 10 days, 1.057 OPS for the season. I think he’s been remakably consistent. It’s a long season, that’s all. He hasn’t even had one bad month so I just don’t see it.
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Eovaldi's heater
Goldschmidt had trouble turning around on 94-96 his first at bat, but also struggled turning on 91-92 MPH 2-seamers from him after he essentially stopped throwing 2-seam fastballs. He did take 89 MPH out to right field, but it was a terrible mistake pitch.
by ScoutingTheSally on Jul 28, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Justin Nicolino
3IP, 3H, 1R, 0ER, 0BB, 4K
Short outing in a tandem start.
hard to say, Jays pushed him when they started him at Vancouver
Think it may be a step early to shift him to Lansing this season.
I could see him getting a few starts in Lansing before the year's out
I mean, look at Hutchison’s 2010, he was able to get five starts in Lansing to get his feet wet and Nicolino’s 2011 short season stats are more impressive than Hutchison’s.
Vancouver look to be in with a shot of the playoffs though
which Auburn weren’t this year. Think the Jays woud favour keeping him for the playoff run in Vancouver.
Jorge Vega-Rosado
3/5 2B, K, SB(16)
Line now at 333/406/514 with 4 HR and 16 SB
It’s the GCL but he’s the same age as Dickie Thon and the scouting reports seem to indicate he plays a good SS
Some good early returns from the Jays 28th round pick this year
Hopefully an overslot pick that comes good
We can use all the MI help we can get.
Christian Villanueva, 3B, Rangers
1-2, HR, BB
Scouting the Sally has a short write-up and video here: http://scoutingthesally.com/sts-selects-christian-villanueva-3b-texas-rangers/
Cool
I’ve been wondering about him all year. Seems like he gets out front quite a bit in games.
by blackoutyears on Jul 26, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If he hits, he's pretty exciting
You know I love defensive third basemen :)
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I'm kicking myself
because I was really close to oulling the trigger on him late in my draft, when speculation on guys like him pays off.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was too
It was before Mike started drooling over him. I just wasn’t sure he’d hit. He’s been hitting ever since.
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I'm pretty sure
I’ll get a crack at him next year, but I’ll have to take him a lot earlier now. Suck.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Aaron Sanchez finding some control
5IP, 6H, 1ER, 1BB, 4K
Consistency would be nice
His last start was a disaster
Tyler Matzek
Second start since his return:
5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 8 K
In total, 9 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 8 BB, 14 K
Walks still a concern, but from what I’ve heard he isn’t nearly as wild and part of it has been teams not being as aggressive and forcing him to throw strikes. The fact that it’s leading to more strikeouts and less runs is encouraging. Hopefully he continues to build back the confidence.
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by Cargo's Ball Sack5 on Jul 26, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions
His stuff is still there
Lots of k’s
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 7:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Johnny Gomes traded to Nats
Alosno is probably going to take LF
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 7:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not sure
Alonso takes LF outright. Heisey and Lewis are still there. I’m wondering if the Reds are looking to showcase him. Really nice double down the RF line tonight in a PH appearance.
by blackoutyears on Jul 26, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mesoraco is gonna get traded
for Ubaldo. Grandal is the future at C for the Reds, IMHO.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 27, 2011 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Vizcaino
to AAA. Looking more and more like he’ll be in the Atlanta pen before too long.
What did he get, three relief appearances before they bumped him up?
He might be in ATL in a couple weeks.
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Jake Hager
2-3 2B 1BB 1K
Has started to pick it up lately in Princeton. Hopefully he keeps it up. unfourtanetly he is not in the lineup for game 2 of the double header.
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Jeff Ames
2.1 7H 8R 3BB 2K
Not a very good debut for him so far. ERA now at 9.20
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Tyler Matzek showing signs of life
5IP 4H 2ER 8K 3BB
YAY
SLUMP BREAKER. back to back HR’s (on nights)
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 26, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus Montero wanting that trade
2-2 with a double so far
Must be a lot of scouts in attendance
3-3 HR, 2B 4 RBI through 6 innings
Heating up
he probably has head trade talk buzz, couldn’t hurt to motivate him… same thing last year.
Hybrid... thanks for the post
I used to follow you in the cafe.. You are one of the guys I trust the most.
As for Jesus Montero, He’s going to be great (mark it down). I honestly think he’s been bored and now that he’s got something to potentially look forward to we are going to see the REAL Jesus Montero.
they should
Send him, Alonso and Bailey to the Rox for Ubaldo
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 8:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why exactly would the Rox do that?
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They get a C and a 1B, both which they need, and a #2 guy who has some more potential
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 8:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bailey a number two starter
I’ll use that as material in my standup routine.
by richieabernathy on Jul 26, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, Mesoraco instead of Grandal, and that's not a bad suggestion.
Probably missing a high ceiling, low minor pitching prospect though.
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Alonso isn't really a fit
And I’m not sure what – if any – value Bailey has.
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Yeah...
but Alonso being a fit or not shouldn’t make a difference. Just like drafting, you shouldn’t worry about need when considering a prospect package in my opinion.
I’m not sure what value Bailey has either, but I’m guessing it’s a fair amount more than you’d think.
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When drafting you don't know your needs when the players will be ready
If they’re trading for near ready guys it makes more sense to target guys that fill holes for them. Or at least get prospects at premium positions that will interest just about every team in baseball. Much harder to convert a guy like Alonso into an asset that fills a need than it is a C or SS or SP.
I don't know.
This is way too hypothetical to really argue about. I guess the point I was making in this scenario, is if you’re getting an A prospect in Mesoraco, don’t take a different deal with the B+ prospect because one of the secondary pieces fits your needs better.
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But this isn't the case where...
A) the Rockies are limited to one trade partner and
B) Alonso is an uber prospect whose talent can’t be matched,
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By different deal, I meant from a different team.
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Oh, ok. But still, Alonso isn't that talent.
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That I can't argue with.
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Yonder
How exactly is Yonder Alonso not a fit in Colorado again? He’s a good, young first baseman at a position where they have a 38 year old player there. He’s not a great fit in leftfield but, I’d say he fits perfectly at 1b, doesn’t he?
Also, Bailey has had his struggles but, he can pitch. 170 Innings, 50 Walks, 140 Ks, around a 4 ERA pitching in the GABP the past two seasons. I agree he isn’t a #2 or anything but, saying he has “no value” is kind of a misrepresentation. He’s pitched really well lately.
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I still like Homer Bailey
He’s a solid mid rotation guy at this point.
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Only 3 years of team control left though
Not sure he’s the pitcher I’d be looking to get in a Ubaldo deal.
This
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The shoulder impingement issues
the last two years probably cloud his value as well. I think he’s a promising pitcher who’s finally coming into his own. Unless another FO really, really covets I suspect his value is greater to the Reds than in trade.
by blackoutyears on Jul 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't trying to argue that he should be coveted
More that he’s a quality MLB starter.
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I definitely got that
I think guys like him are difficult to trade because his potential outstrips his current value, and as a Reds fan my nightmare is that we spend years developing him only to see him come into his own somewhere else. If he nets the right player in trade it’s worth it, but I see these multi-player deals with Mesoraco/Grandal, Alonso, and Bailey and I get a little perturbed at the idea that Bailey is a sweetener. it’s appropriate that he is, but it could really backfire, sort of like my throwing Oswaldo Arcia into a deal this spring when I probably didn’t have to.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
As a Rox fan...
I disagree. Helton is having a fine year this year and has a club option for next season, but he’s gone after that. The Rox don’t have a long term solution at 1B. I would certainly consider an offer of Mesoraco, Bailey, and Alonso.
If you’d toss Daniel Corcino in there, I’d say done deal.
If MLBTraderumors is to be believed
The Rox asked for Mesoraco and Aroldis Chapman (and got shot down).
Not unreasonable,
but as a Reds fan I’d hope Jocketty would pass.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
This surprises me somewhat. In trying to interpret the contracts of both Aroldis and of Ubaldo, it looks like Ubaldo is under contract from 2012 -2014, and cheaply too.
He’s had some inconsistency the past year but even though those are two prospects I like, they are fairly expendable and Ubaldo is a front of the line horse. I’d be pretty tempted there.
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Probably missing a high ceiling, low minor pitching prospect
Corcino?
by blackoutyears on Jul 26, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That was my pretty much the name I was thinking, yes.
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lol
it’s more like Mesoraco + Chapman + Billy Hamilton for Ubaldo.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 27, 2011 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't do that either
I have no problem trading Hamilton, but I’d rather see what I could get done with Alonso and Grandal as the offer first. I’m not that sold on Ubaldo in GABP, and I wouldn’t trade a cost-controlled C with a middle of the order bat and my future closer.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about
Alonso and Grandal for Ubaldo, though. I’m saying I’d rather determine what other players those guys may net me.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Too little
too late?
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by playingwithfire on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah...
He’s only 20, was really raw coming out of HS (bloodlines notwithstanding), and has been aggressively placed each year. If anything, he ought to be a step lower this year. If after 2012 he doesn’t start to show real progress (assuming DET doesn’t put him in AAA or something crazy) then I begin to worry.
He's repeating his level from last year
No? And doing all around worse, much worse.
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by playingwithfire on Jul 27, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
6IP 8H 1ER 9K 1BB
Same old same old… for the future Ace.
not this again....
Give me a break. He’s a bonafide stud.
Maybe a 20 ceiling.
I saw him pitch in the majors for a couple innings, and it’s not a 20 yet.
8 hits?
Drop this guy out of the top 50 prospects…he’s a bum I tell you
lol
fastballs and change-ups can work.
plus, it’s MORE than a 10 breaking ball.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 27, 2011 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I owned him and Kipnis in a Dynasty
And decided to keep Altuve and trade Kipnis. He’s making me proud, lol
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 8:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i currently have both!!
only bad thing is im getting offers for both, and should trade one…but afraid to make the wrong choice lol
The league im in is a category league
and I figure Altuve should contribute in more cats than Kipnis. Kipnis has more power 15-20, but I can see Altuve hitting 10 a year in that short porch in HOU
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
power
career #s in the minors leagues
Altuve – .481 slugging, .154 ISO
Kipnis – .485 slugging, 188 ISO
Wait, hm, I guess Kip does have more power, not by much though.
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Goldy
1-1, HR (30!), 2 RBI, now with 92
He’s mad at Mike Newman
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Against Delgado.
he’s 1-2 with the HR and 2 BB (0 K) , only the 5th inning. 12-1 Mobile
I survived the 2004 & 2010 seasons.
Goldschmidt is AWESOME
Randall?
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You sure?
Wait a minute – isn’t Randall Delgado a prospect of some renown? I’ve heard about this one game though wherein Goldschmidt didn’t homer against a decent prospect & did go yard versus a less talented AA reliever. Yes, in the same game.
I’m going to have to check into this as it seemed to be all but implied that Goldschmidt was feasting on inferior talents whilst compiling his #s & not capable of making contact against talented pitchers (even though his swing on video seems fine of course, his output is out of this world in a relatively neutral league & his improved K rate/BB #s aren’t at all out of line with players of his position/profile).
Just having some fun obviously, but there’s figurative blood in the water for Goldschmidt it seems at the moment. I’m not insisting he’s Adam Dunn incarnate as some others are, no far from it, but I wouldn’t bet against this kid adding some serious value in the bigs. Until he actually, tangibly stumbles at any point in his development (which he really hasn’t yet..at all), I feel comfortable assuming that is probably a likelihood.
Even Keith Law would probably think that sort of de facto scouting report was breakneck & he wouldn’t be wrong.
Yeah man, keep ripping on Mike Newman as a scout, that'll make you look good
You clearly learn far more about a guy from looking at a box score than you do by watching him play. Why don’t you tell us about Goldschmidt’s HR tonight…what pitch did it come off of? Did he turn on a good fastball or did he hit a mistake offspeed pitch that Delgado left up?
Hey, who remembers when Chris Carter hit .337 in AA with 67 XBHs…clearly the people who said he didn’t have the bat speed to hit like that against MLB pitchers had no idea what they were talking about…
by nixa37 on Jul 27, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hear Washington
is changing the name to the Goldschmidt ceiling out of respect for his unparalleled ability to polarize the masses.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
No kidding, ha
Aaron Hicks is universally revered in comparison.
Was going for puckish
Or at least playful. It wasn’t meant to ‘rip’ anybody personally but just a fantasy baseball article/line of reasoning that I found flimsy (nothing personal there – aren’t we permitted to question things in general? Isn’t that a big part of the thrust of this?) that I figured a lot of folks wouldn’t be familiar with.
I was hopeful that the humor was apparent but it seems it wasn’t. My apologies to all if miconstrued (obviously).
Sorry if I misinterpreted
But yeah it came off kind of condescending, like obviously this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Not sure exactly what you found flimsy about his reasoning either. He questioned Goldschmidt’s bat speed (he’s not the first) and provided video of him swinging and missing at a bunch of fastball strikes. That seems like anything but flimsy reasoning.
I hear you
There’s a frequent sarcasm undercurrent on this blog (that I dig & try to contribute to) but I probably flew too close to the sun here.
I visit Mike’s (the SAL guy) blog & he’s high on other guys I like a lot (Nolan Arenado for example) & I like to see his takes on prospects who I’ve seen in SS as they make their next steps or others (like Arenado) that I haven’t. it was nothing personal & the bat speed/contact stuff has dogged Goldschmidt, yes this is true. I think I just flew with the fact that the article I alluded to devolved into what I thought was akin to a pretty cursory fantasy piece & went a little too far whilst trying to prop up Goldschmidt (a pretty common meme btw – I/m basically his DA Pennebaker or something at this point..). It’s all good.
I see where you're coming from
He was writing a piece for a Roto site, so he made sure to put a roto spin on things, but at its heart I think he makes a pretty strong scouting point on Goldy. I can see how it doesn’t necessarily read quite like a normal scouting report though.
Extra credit
for use of “puckish”, Matt. lol
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know why comparing to Dunn is bad
I mean the guy has been a solid player, but he’s only averaged 2.54 WAR per season over his ten season career, not exactly an insurmountable figure. I don’t hear anyone saying Goldy is a future HoFer (and Dunn certainly is not).
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It isn't
I think that a lot of people would crtique Goldschmidt unnecessarily though if he settles into a lesser career than Dunn (which I would expect as I don’t feel that WAR accurately encapsulates Adan Dunn’s essence) if that comparison was too commonplace. There’s still a lot of value in being a major league regular that isn’t the middle of the order bat that Dunn is/was to me.
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by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Am pretty sure Paul Goldschmidt could care less
The dude was barely drafted out of HS & was an eighth rounder who signed for less than $100K out of Texas State. If he cared about the claims of the hoi polloi, he wouldn’t be where he is.
Goldschmidt – 1/3 with 3 BBs, 3 R, 3 RBI & the aforementioned jack. Hitting a very un-Russell Branyan-esque .306 at the moment with sublime thumping #s.
Tyler Skaggs – 6 IP, 6 K, 1 R, 5 baserunners permitted
Adam Eaton – 2/5, 3 RBI, 2 R
What COULD he care less about?
1 of my odd pet peeves ;]
by Jersey Transplant on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point, JT
The phrase as we used it when I was growing was the more logical “couldn’t care less”. Interesting how it’s “evolved”. Now it’s along the lines of saying “He did a total 360!” when the speaker actually means 180.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
or would of
instead of would’ve (have).
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Right!
I’ve been seeing that a lot more. Nothing irks me more than the epidemic level abuse of the past tense though, subbing went for gone as in “I should have (of?) went but I stayed home.” I have no idea how this has become so pervasive. Both of the college-educated managers in my office speak this way. To clients.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
And what's a "nother"?
As in the phrase “that’s a whole nother thing.”
It must be derived from “another” but how did the “whole” get inserted into the word… and people just say it like it’s actually English!
by Jersey Transplant on Jul 27, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that
I kind of dig in a slang nerd sort of way. It reads like a contracted “another” being used in place of “other”. I generally make concessions for regional idiosyncracies (e.g. Cincinnatians often say warsh for wash, and ideal for idea), but flat out poor grammar? My rule with that is if it’s just as easy to say it the right way as it is the wrong, then say it the right way.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
unless you are talking about some of the args here
then it’s just a whole nother 360
thru 5IPS, 1H, 0ER, 2BB, 8Ks
Pretttttty… pretttttty…. pretttttty….. prettttttty, good.
by BryceHarper on Jul 26, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ranaudo
5 inn, 4 hits, 3 ks, 1 bb
I like Ranaudo, he doesn’t get a lot of hype here
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 8:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mesoraco
1-1, 2B, RBI, BB
More than ready, adding him and Alonso could do great things for the Reds lineup
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Why would you play him over Hernandez right now?
Ramon’s killing it this season
because you sell high on Hernandez
Mesoraco and Grandal are the future. Trade Hernandez now for something useful.
I took his comment as saying Alonso and Mesoraco would make their lineup better now
They’re also still in the NL Central race to a certain extent, and Hernandez is locked in as a Type A free agent so they’ll get compensation even if they don’t trade him now.
Dante Bichette Jr.
On a crazy tear. 4 for 4 with a double today. 19 for his last 27, up to .333/.470/.510 on the season. Only 1 home run so far, but the 18:23 k:bb ratio is nice.
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Jose Bautista got hit in the head
Brett Lawrie time?
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that looked painful
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Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~
Span in Left, Revere in Center, Delmon / Kubel in RF
Cuddyer 1B , Morneau DH in 2012
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 26, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Tyler Skaggs
4 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K
I survived the 2004 & 2010 seasons.
Goldschmidt is AWESOME
Can go at least another inning
He’s been efficient so far at just 86 pitches
Night finished
They just pinch-hit for him. Great outing
Not a prospect...
But Justin Germano pitches a perfect game vs Syracuse
Hak Ju Lee
2-3 2B 1BB 1K
No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.
by thedudeofdudes on Jul 26, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Chris Dwyer has looked awesome tonight
I’ll probably write the Tulsa/NW Arkansas game up sometime tomorrow, like I did with yesterday’s.
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by far his best start all year
not even on the same stratosphere as any of his others.
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His command has been surprisingly really good
Fastball and curve have both been impressive. Not too many change-ups but he really didn’t need it either.
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Anyone know if he was hurt?
It’s like he flicked on the switch
Henry Sosa acquired for Jeff Keppinger
7IP 3H 1R 1BB 9K 2nd straight dominating performance since the trade
Princeton Rays
Drew Vettleson 2-6 3B 1BB 2K
Josh Sale 3-7 2B 3B
Both played 2 games of a double header.
No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.
by thedudeofdudes on Jul 26, 2011 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
D-Vet gettin it done
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by Marinerfanjake on Jul 26, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
he looks like a guy who should be a power hitter
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
his body type
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah apparently his swing path isn't conducive though
But I’ve been told he’s working on that. Trying to get more backspin when he hits the ball and drive it more.
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Starling Marte
3/5, HR
Getting hot!
by John Black on Jul 26, 2011 10:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
now just needs to hit 10 more to get back on prospect lists
by gobruins12345 on Jul 27, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
flores
his stock might be down a little but he’s still a 19 year old in high-A (and the FSL to boot). he’s holding his own in the league and the power potential is still there.
i want to believe
I get all the ARL caveats but his numbers are actually down against his own FSL performance last year as an 18 year old. That’s a little hard to swallow.
In some ways this is a good thing
The more he hates the better he does.
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by Marinerfanjake on Jul 27, 2011 12:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jose Campos off to a good start
2 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 4 K, 2 groundouts
done after 5
Got knocked around a bit. Final line:
5 IP, 4 R, 3 ER, 7 H, 1 BB, 6 K, 7 groundouts to 1 flyout
In Baseball America terms
He is my personal cheeseball.
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Can we all agree
Not to root for him until he loses that ridiculous mutant caterpillar above his mouth?
by realitypolice on Jul 27, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the whole reason I root for in to begin with.
by High and Inside on Jul 27, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
If you want to see cheesy mustaches and long swings, just watch Mr. Baseball!
by realitypolice on Jul 27, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Adonis Cardona
3.2 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 4 BB, 4 K
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Julio Teheran
6 IP, 8 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 9 K
Stock dropping.
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Jason Hirsh #2
Bust!
Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
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by playingwithfire on Jul 26, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What breaking ball?
I heard he throws a dead fish as his third pitch.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
really hard to read him
Level quite low, improvement in bb/k is real, but contact skill?
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by playingwithfire on Jul 26, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Baby steps?
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by Marinerfanjake on Jul 26, 2011 11:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jesse Biddle
6 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 4 K
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Chris Davis
2/4, no Ks!
In your face Mathis, lol.
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even a blind squirrel finds a nut
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by mathisrocks5 on Jul 26, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Arodys Vizcaino
Made his AAA debut in relief striking out 2 but allowing a solo HR as well
I think the Braves see him contributing down the stretch in the big league bullpen. At least they’re going to push him until he shows he can’t.
some cubs
Vitters: 2-4, HR #10, 2 RBI
Justin Bour: 1-5, HR #21
Szczur: 2-3, 2 2Bs, and threw out a guy at home
other cubs
logan watkins: 1/4, 2 run homer, 1 K, 1 SF. Moved from SS-CF when Szczur left.
Rafael Lopez: 3/3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 HR, 4 RBI.
Neftali Rosario: 2/5, 2 R, 1 K.
Marco Hernandez: 2/4, 2 R, 1 BB, 1 RBI.
Gioskar Amaya: 2/4, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K.
Candelario: 2/5.
Addison Reed Triple-A debut
2IP 1H 1R 1ER 0BB 4K with 1 HRA. Looks increasingly likely that he’ll get a call-up in his first minor league season. Probably at least set-up potential.
Agreed
Was surprised CHW didn’t explore Addison Reed’s potential as a starter more earnestly, but he should help soon. Maybe the changeup continued to lag behind his other offerings to the point that Chicago decided to escalate things & not exhaust any unnecessary development time.
There was a reasonably strong consensus
heading into the draft that he’d be a quick mover as a reliever, and between the issues with the change you mention, problems with pacing as a starter, and some injuries, it makes some sense. You’ve also got a FB that gains significant velo in relief. His rep for having good command seems borne out by his performance this year.
Now has an 87:11 K:BB in 59 IP with 36 hits and that was just his second homer allowed this season. Just…wow.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Wily Peralta
7IP 4H 0R 3BB 4K. Not overwhelming but the reports of mid-to-high 90s with the FB keep coming.
Nestor Molina
got hit a little, but continues a nice run of starts: 5IP 8H 2R 2ER 1BB 4K and 1 HRA.
Robbie
Grossman. Stays hot
2-5, 2B, K
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 26, 2011 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
Anthony Rizzo
back in his comfort zone. 2 for 2 with a double so far after a 4 for 5 game yesterday. OTOH, 9:3 K:BB since returning to Triple-A.
Yeicok Calderon
on a hot streak. 1 for 3 with a triple today, and 12 for 23 in his last six games with five doubles, two triples, one homer and a 2:1 K:BB.
lemonjello
you should be a lot more excited about this guy! lol
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Miguel Sano 2-4 , 1K
Eddie Rosario 3-5 , 3B , 1 K
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Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~
Span in Left, Revere in Center, Delmon / Kubel in RF
Cuddyer 1B , Morneau DH in 2012
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 27, 2011 1:14 AM EDT reply actions
found this tid-bit today from Twins insider La Velle III
•"Twins officials are increasingly confident that Miguel Angel Sano can stick at third base. His arm and mobility at the position has been impressive. After a slow start,. Sano is batting .279 with 6 homers and 18 RBI in 34 games. Over his last ten games, he’s batting .324 with three homers a 1.134 OPS."
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Twins top 11 ~ Gibson, Sano, Hendriks, Hicks, Arcia, Salcedo, Benson, Michael, Kepler, Rosario, Gutierrez ~
Span in Left, Revere in Center, Delmon / Kubel in RF
Cuddyer 1B , Morneau DH in 2012
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 27, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Just found it interesting that even after 18 errors in less than twice as many games
Twins officials think Sano will stick at 3B.
I hope they’re right but not overwhelmingly optimisitc
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Span in Left, Revere in Center, Delmon / Kubel in RF
Cuddyer 1B , Morneau DH in 2012
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 27, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
not worried about the errors at this stage in the game
He’s really young and 3B takes a little adjustment time, so the emphasis is heavily on the raw tools.
2 million bucks
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by doublestix on Jul 27, 2011 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
another future stud for they Royals farm
gotta like those bloodlines
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 27, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
not MILB
related really.. but the Pirates are still playing..
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 1:42 AM EDT reply actions
I just want someone to get it over with at this point
I’ve never seen anything quite like this…no chance for a position player to even pitch because the benches were emptied so early
And of course it ends on a walkoff RBI grounder by Scott Proctor
First career RBI by Prcotor and fell on his face out of the box. The ball beat the runner home by about 5 steps and the catcher “missed” his tag on the runner. Seriously one of the weirdest games I’ve ever seen. Not a single run scored from bottom of the third until the bottom of the 19th and then the winning run scores on what looked like a completely blown call by the home plate umpire (perhaps he just wanted it to be over and didn’t see either team getting another chance to score for another 15 innings).
OK...I just saw the replay
Granted, I only saw it from one angle, but it looked like the worst call I’ve ever seen. Was there another angle that showed it was correct?
No he was almost certainly out
However it was a brush tag that almost completely whiffed. It actually looked closer on some of the replays than it did live.
almost certainly?
there’s absolutely not doubt that he was tagged…even lugo was shocked that he was called safe.
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he legitimately didn't feel a tag
But simply expected to be called out because you never get called safe when the ball beats you by that much
Ask Jason Heyward
about being called out just because the ball beats you home. That was a terrible call the other day.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That sort of thing
always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, even when it benefits my team.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Has pics of the tag being applied
rtjr RaiseTheJollyRoger
by Ken_Laird
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While he almost certainly did tag him
There isn’t exactly much, if any, contact between the glove and leg in that pic.
there doesnt have to be much contact and there clearly is contact...and thats a bad angle
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Horrendous
I’m sick to my stomach.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions
sucks that it happened for your team...this year of all years...
every other game the past 20 years it wouldnt have matter…now, 1 game could be the difference. and not talking shit…i say this as a royals fan…and that being said, i’d be livid if it had happened even when we’re awful
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by billybeingbilly on Jul 27, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Really hate that the game had to end on such a contentious play
Would have much rather had him called out and hopefully the Braves would have pulled it out anyway.
I fear
MLB has lost many fans tonight, and I may be one of them. I know I will get ripped here, etc, but this is absolutely inexcusable. With the history of the Pirates they way it is (I’ve never seen a winning season I can say I remember) this is the ultimate sucker punch.
I blame no one in particular and would have had no problem had the Braves won legitimately (and clearly, they still might have, including have guys on 1st and 2nd with 2 out – assuming McKenry couldn’t throw out proctor who stumbled out of the box).
It was just a well fought game that had a horrible ending. If MLB has any decency, they will find a way to make this right. It’s not nearly the same stage (regular season MLB game), but this reeks of the controversy that absolutely devastated Ireland when there was a clear hand-ball not called by the referee.
I hope MLB can figure out how to address this issue, aside from admittance that this was a bad call. This game needs to be played as if Lugo was out and Jerry Meals needs to be demoted or given time off. I don’t want to suggest firing him, because I hope that he simply missed the call (although the thought lingers in the back of my mind to the contrary; personal or otherwise agendas were supplanted for a fairly called game), but this call is indicative of a horrible job performance and he needs to be reprimanded, similar to any other job.
I realize it is late and I’m probably speaking in anger, but I am so completely jaded and disillusioned currently that I have a hard time supporting MLB in its current and broken state.
Well, I’ve got that off my chest. Good night.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, but in no way is a replay from that point or anything of the sort in order
Besides that really wouldn’t even be fair to the Braves at this point unless you somehow make D. McCutchen throw 5.2 innings in a live game or whatever right before he has to go back out there and try to get the last out of the inning.
Yeah, it sucks that the game was decided on a call like that, but they’re not going to suddenly go out and change every rule in the books just so that the Pirates don’t feel wronged.
How
is this significantly different from what they did with George Brett and the pine-tar on the bat. I honestly don’t know, so I’m asking. I’m too apathetic to look it up, but that protest worked.
Either way, just make Joel Hanrahan come in (he was up and warm) to make the D. Cutch point moot. It’s not about feeling wronged either. It’s about being wronged.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The umpire misinterpreted the rule
He called Brett out for using an illegal bat when the rule book never said anything about that. It simply said an illegal could be pointed out before it was used and the umpire could take it out of the game. It didn’t say the bat could be challenged after use and the player retroactively called out.
If Hanrahan was up, I must have missed it. I don’t remember hearing them say it, but I trust you on that. Still no guarantee he would have actually come in then.
Oh
Ok. Fair enough. We were never gonna win the Central anyway.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope you
live on the ground floor, Cutch! It’s one game, the Pirates have been doing great all year, don’t panic. If they make a couple of trades (#3 or better starter, COF bat) I think they have a real shot.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya
still feel as pissed and as shitty now as I did yesterday. Hopefully the players galvanize or something.. I dunno.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, man
I know how frustrating that can be. It would be worse if this were later in the year. Pirates still have a lot of time and perhaps some moves to make. It’s a shame to let one call in July ruin what’s been an incredible season.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially when it supposedly got the team real fired up
Sounds like they’re looking to use this as motivation to make a run for the rest of the season. Hopefully it works out like that.
Agreed
The Pirates are the only team in the Central I’ll root for if/when the Reds are out of it.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I say this while admitting a tag was almost certainly made
I don’t see any contact there. Glove doesn’t look bent at all. Impossible to tell if he’s touching him or if the glove is just an inch in front of his leg.
After seeing the replay over and over again from every conceivable angle I have yet to see a point where the glove clearly makes contact with Lugo’s leg. Like I said, I’m pretty sure it did and I can’t believe he got called safe anyway, but I have yet to see anything that convinces me a tag was definitely made.
Come
on man. Watch any live replay. It’s clear he swipes his leg fairly thoroughly. The contact is minimal, but it is obvious and extended enough that it’s not even remotely questionable for anyone with an ounce of objectivity.
I’m sick right now. MLB should fix this, or it will seriously damage the fanbase in Pittsburgh.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm
sorry, and I appreciate you trying to be diplomatic. My words were inflammatory. Forgive me. I’m livid mixed with depressed right now (a weird, weird feeling – I’m not remotely tired and will probably stay up all night now).
This is the type of game that literally ruins an entire season. Not from a record standpoint, but from an enthusiasm standpoint. I have no desire to watch a game be played tomorrow.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
No worries man
I completely understand where you’re at right now. I’d probably be pissed too. If you want to look on the bright side, it didn’t look like either team was going to score for at least another 5-10 innings so at least you guys didn’t end up throwing one of your other starters out there and wasting him.
There's
no brightside dude. I know you are trying to help and be nice, but this isn’t what’s supposed to happen.
I’d rather have 20 more losing seasons in a row, and I honestly-to-God mean this, than have a good season ruined by something as bad as that. I would have rather lost 35-0.
Now we will get swept out by y’all, then drop 2 or 3 against Philly, and fall apart down the stretch. Another losing season will come, and Pittsburgh will just quit. The players, the town, everything.
That’s probably being melodramatic. But unless we rally to win 4 or 5 of the next 6, and this game stands. It will absolutely ruin baseball for the city of Pittsburgh this year. This is like the ball going through damn Billy Buckner’s legs.
I’m 99% sure I won’t watch another game the rest of the season. I don’t want to. I want nothing to do with baseball; I’m now glad the lockout is over, so baseball can go back to being a backburner sport. It’s atrociously run and it squeezes all hope out of a small-market team that tries it’s darndest to compete until it runs into the buzzsaw that was that shitastically bad call.
Thanks for bearing with me.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Get to sleep and reevaluate everything tomorrow
I don’t think you’ll feel quite as bad then. Who knows, maybe this will galvanize the team and get them headed in the right direction. Maybe this is where Pittsburgh really wakes up and takes over the Central. Its certainly not a reason to completely quit on the season.
I really do wish you guys the best. I was at the Sid Bream game when it all started going down hill for you guys (I was 6 at the time) and its crazy for me looking back and thinking about how bad its been for you guys since then. I really can’t even imagine what its like. I hope for your sake and the city’s sake they turn things around. Even if they don’t, they’re clearly a team on the rise and you should look forward to the future.
Heh
I can’t sleep. I’ve already called into my boss and told him I won’t be into work tomorrow.
I’ve watched the Steelers lose two super bowls, the Pens lose a stanley cup, and WVU lose to Pitt in the final game of the season with a trip to the national championship (I was at that game).
None of those felt as bad as this.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
it must suck to be you.
sheesh. lighten up. it’s a long ass season.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 27, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
dude. That helps. I can understand why you aren’t really liked or respected around these parts.
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm
sorry apoxon. That was wrong. I’m leaving now
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 27, 2011 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that's kind of unnecessary
I agree that he’s probably taking it a little harder than he should, but then again I don’t really know what its like to be a fan of a team that’s gone almost 20 years without a winning season. Give him a break
I felt like this when I watched the first 5-10 replays
The more replays I’ve seen, the less sure I am that he ever actually touched him. I just haven’t seen a single point in a replay where I can say, “alright, there, I can tell his glove moved because it made contact with his leg.” Like I said, I’m 99% sure he did make contact at some point, but I’m just not seeing anything on the replay that proves it
and people wonder why Buster Posey had to get hurt
This is the alternative to trying to hit the catcher as hard as you can to dislodge the ball. Turned out well for the Braves anyways, I guess.
I think the sky-is-falling talk here about the consequences of the game’s ending are, to say the least, wildly overblown. I don’t see anybody walking away from the game over this.
normally I have to pay to see someone get fucked
but I got to see a whole team get screwed for free.
just to head anything off here
If you (or anybody else) is upset and you want to express your disdain about the game, that’s cool. You’re still to refrain from going off-topic or making inappropriate comments.
im a comedian bro
that was humor. i think ur the one overreacting. those were three solid jokes u deleted.
in major leagues
billy butler had another hr, second in a week, still remember a fan graphs article from a while back that predicted a power surge around age 27ish, so hopefully its still on its way
That Dwyer start is nuts
He’s been uniformly awful the last month outside of the last two starts, and this one sticks out like Rick Santorum at a GLAAD rally.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Wheeler
Any chances to asess his defense? I’d really like to get a look at his plate approach. He’s all numbers on a page for me at this point.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Not much to report on Wheeler's D
Wheeler took a few pitches but was pretty aggressive. Not much to really report after one game.
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The aggression doesn't surprise me
He’s struck out in bunches throughout the year, while still maintaining a whiff rate just this side of acceptable.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I seem to recall you asking me about him a few days back, but I forgot to respond
Didn’t really get a read on his defense either, so I’ll refrain from speaking on that. I don’t think it’s out of the question that he sticks in CF, though.
His approach is more of a decider with him for me than his defensive projection, anyways. I get the impression that he’s made a living this year off of waiting for his pitch and then taking big cuts. I think his power will hold up at higher levels (especially in Colorado), but I’ll be interested to see if his BA is going to be there.
Beltran to the Giants - deal imminent
Gary Brown might be the one to go.
ESPN is reporting Wheeler!
That’s a bitter pill if I’m a Giants fan. Best case scenario if I’m a Met.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know Giants will likely sign Beltran, extend him a few years
If Wheeler + a couple a fringe’s is all they give up I say not bad.
If Brown + another nice prospect or two, Surkamp, Sanchez – I say would have been a little worse
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 27, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Extend Beltran?
That may actually be more depressing than just giving up your best pitching prospect for a stretch rental. Not sure I trust him to be this guy when he’s in his late 30s.
I’d rather have Wheeler than any of the other prospects you mention. Give me the lottery ticket over the solid depth package.
by blackoutyears on Jul 27, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
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