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Career Profile: Matt Cain, RHP, San Francisco Giants

Career Profile: Matt Cain, RHP, San Francisco Giants

Per reader request, here is a Career Profile for Matt Cain of the San Francisco Giants.

Matt Cain was drafted by the San Francisco Giants in the first round of the 2002 draft, from high school in Germantown, Tennessee. The 25th overall pick in the draft, he threw 88-92 MPH in high school, showed a strong curve, and was physically projectable at 6-3, 180 pounds. His command was erratic in high school and some people felt he was a slight overdraft, but he performed well in rookie ball, posting a 3.72 ERA with a 20/11 K/BB in 19 innings with 13 hits allowed, and boosting his velocity to 92-94 MPH. I gave him a Grade B- in the 2003 book, noting that he had high upside but might take some time to develop.

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 2003 brought mixed results. His statistical performance for Low-A Hagerstown was excellent (2.55 ERA, 90/24 K/BB in 74 innings, just 57 hits). His velocity continued to climb, up to 96-97 MPH at times. He made progress with command of his curveball and improved his changeup. However, he missed the second half of the season with a stress fracture in his elbow, and there were significant concerns about his ability to stay healthy. I gave him a Grade B in the 2004 book, noting that "without the elbow problem, he'd be one of the most impressive pitching prospects in baseball. Even with it, he is a breakout candidate."

He stayed healthy in 2004 and broke out, posting a 1.86 ERA with an 89/17 K/BB in 73 innings for High-A San Jose, then a 3.55 ERA with a 72/40 K/BB in 86 innings for Double-A Norwich. His command wobbled after his promotion, but his mid-90s fastball, hard curve, and continually improving changeup gave him the look of a future ace. He also showed a terrific work ethic and mound presence. I was still somewhat worried about the elbow injury possibly recurring, but I rated him a Grade A- in the '05 book, ranked as the number 10 pitching prospect in baseball. I also noted the slippage in command at Double-A and wrote that if I was in charge, I would try to give him "a good 20 starts" in Triple-A to put the finishing touches on.

The Giants gave him 26 starts in Triple-A in '05, where he went 10-5, 4.39 with a 176/73 K/BB in 146 innings for Fresno with 118 hits allowed. Command issues were apparent, but his stuff was first-class and reflected in the K/IP and H/IP marks. He made his major league debut in late August as the youngest player in the National League and performed very well, posting a 2.33 ERA in seven starts with a 30/19 K/BB and a miniscule 24 hits allowed (.151 batting average against). I was still a little worried about recurrence of the elbow problem, plus reports that his velocity dipped at the end of the season. I kept him at a Grade A- in the '06 book, but that was enough to rank him as the Number Three pitching prospect in baseball behind Justin Verlander and Francisco Liriano.

Cain had a solid rookie season in 2006 (4.15 ERA, 108 ERA+, 179/87 K/BB in 191 IP, 3.5 WAR) and has been consistently strong ever since. Bad support from his teammates gave him a weak won-loss record in 2007 and 2008 (15-29) but he pitched quite well both years (WAR 4.0 and 3.7), and his teammates have given him better support since then. Overall he is 64-66, 3.43 ERA in 1202 innings, 995/438 K/BB, 1015 hits allowed, 124 ERA+, 3.77 FIP, 4.28 xFIP, 21.8 WAR.

Cain has seen a slight decline in his velocity (averaging 92.8 MPH in 2007, now down to 91.1) but his slider, curveball, and changeup give him a complete arsenal and his command has steadily improved, his BB/9 dropping from 4.11 in 2006 to 2.37 in 2011. His K/9 rates have remained steady in the mid-7.0s for the last five years, and he's been very durable, with no recurrence of any arm problems.

The list of statistically comparable pitchers through age 25: John Smoltz, Don Sutton, Andy Benes, Mark Baldwin (19th century guy), Ismael Valdez, Wally Bunker, Bill Dinneen (very effective pitcher at the turn of the century, won 170 games), Jose Rijo, Jake Peavy, and Dave Boswell (fireballer from the 60s who burned out fast). Several of those guys faded pretty quickly but all of them were excellent pitchers in their prime. Baseball Prospectus comps include Justin Verlander-2010, Freddy Garcia-2004, and Andy Benes-1995.

At age 26, Cain is past the classic injury nexus, and while he could certainly get hurt, he strikes me as a decent bet to stay healthy and durable. He's gained 40-50 pounds since his high school days, and this is a case of a projectable high school pitcher who turned out extremely well.

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Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN

by Nnamdi Asomugha on Jun 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

3rd starter at best

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Jun 30, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

doesnt know how to win

Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN

by Nnamdi Asomugha on Jul 1, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polarizing player for the stat heads

Good work as always, John, though I wish you would have addressed the fact that Cain is the most popular bar room argument among Sabermetric folks. FIP and BABIP numbers are not kind to him but I just think that he is a smart pitcher who pitches for contact to take advantage of the park he plays in.

by AK3700 on Jun 30, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

He is a very interesting case in that sense.

However, when a guy does it over so many years, you have to consider it a skill and not luck.

by polodude017 on Jul 1, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

He is Bizarro Javy Vazquez.

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 1, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs concluded it was Righetti

The Giants’ pitchers as a group over the last ten years have a very low HR/FB both at home and on the road, and the one constant in that equation is Righetti as a pitching coach. Cain in particular has such a low BABIP in part because he posts high FB% (and very high IFFB%) with low HR/FB; his xBABIPs are pretty low as well.

Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)

by quincy0191 on Jul 7, 2011 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still can't believe

He has a losing record with his stats. Has to be one of the least-supported pitchers in history.

by cookiedabookie on Jun 30, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Cain has really developed into a complete pitcher

When he first came up he had the overpowering stuff and mound presence where it seemed that on any given day he might throw a no-hitter… and he came close on a few occasions. But he would also have days when he would lose command and throw way too many pitches and be gone from the game early. Now he has settled down into one of the most reliable starters in baseball, nothing flashy, just a guy you know will keep you in the game and give you a great chance for a win. He looks like he’ll enjoy a long and effective career.

by baseballjunkie on Jun 30, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a great pitcher im sure that san fran regrets nothing.

He is a great number two. A amazing like super crazy good number three. And i think on four or five teams he could be the Ace. But i like him more as a great number two guy.

by Jt Malley on Jun 30, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?

I think he’s the ace on all but a few teams. Very underrated.

by polodude017 on Jul 1, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

You’re probably right…I guess its because he’s not his own team’s ace I kind of thought about it that way.

by NastyNate82 on Jul 4, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Statistically you're certainly correct

His numbers support such an assertion. But I think he likes being the #2 guy; he can go out there and quietly pitch like a mofo without the pressure of being the demonstrable “ace” since during his tenure Zito and then Timmy have been the default “aces”.

Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)

by quincy0191 on Jul 7, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

He and Billingsley have always seemed very similar

The comps show that as well.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2011 2:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Cain has 9 more WAR than Billingsley at the same age.

by EricW on Jul 1, 2011 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

WAR!!!!! What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing!!!!

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 1, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cain has been up longer, no? And he wasn't a reliever for half a year

similar isn’t exactly the same

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Jul 3, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to me

For what it’s worth. Matt Cain by at least a country mile.

by Matt0330 on Jul 1, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good thing Sabean was "forced" to use this pick...

along with the one he used on Lincecum. According to an article I read on Yahoo! a while back, Sabean was notorious for giving away his 1st rounders for crappy FA’s. Only after the system was adjusted so the picks in the top half of the first round were protected, he wasforeced to keep his picks. He came out with Cain and Lincecum. Lucky bastard.

by polodude017 on Jul 1, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

and bumgarner . . .

and posey . . .

see a pattern here?

Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN

by Nnamdi Asomugha on Jul 1, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That wasn't the only reason

Sabean knew they had a limited budget and surrounding Bonds with veterans gave them the best chance to win in that window. Once Bonds was done they upped the development budget.

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by King Billy Royal on Jul 2, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol this

Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN

by Nnamdi Asomugha on Jul 1, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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